I agree.

Actually they wanted to meet Rachel, but her trainers dodged. But I'm not classing any filly.. Rachel was a great filly and must have gone bad after this race

Because the rail was Super dead that whole summer...she ran herculean and was never the same again...

MAGE!!!

​@@RisitasKEKWMage anda Rich Strike are both Curlin's grandsons

Zenyatta Rachel had probably the best season ever for a filly, but Zenyatta's longevity and consistency puts her above

@@kalorakalora I like to think that Zenyatta was the greatest dirt mare ever and Rachel Alexandra was the greatest dirt filly ever. No other filly/mare in history would have beat either at their best distances on their best days. What we saw then was truly spectacular. The more years that go by, the more I realize just how great both horses were.

@Silver Eyed Stacker I just wish they had raced, but by her 4th year she wasn't the same horse anymore. The 09 campaign just took too much out of her. If they had raced after 09 Zenyatta would have destroyed Rachel. But in 09 I have no idea who wins. So interesting that they had such opposite styles too. Does the perennial frontrunner win, or does the one who always chases down the leader with an unbelievable kick win?

Lady's Secret would've beat both of them in her sleep...​@@silvereyedstacker1842

lol

Horse had the momentum down the stretch and was impeded by Bulls Bay, otherwise would have blown past Rachel

You mean like the shit fields Zen faced repeatedly throughout her career? Or the fact that she has the distinction of beating ZERO Grade I winners during her alleged HOY campaign? Zen had the weakest resume of any HOY ever in history. Beating one field of males on SYNTHETIC does not make a champion...and I still can't name one true 1 1/4M dirt male she beat in 2009 in that Classic. Gio Ponti was a turfer who had just come off a loss to horse who hadn't won in 3 years! It was am 88-1 shot! SO don't start talking about weak fields because that is an invitation to destroy your argument and Zen's competition.

Rachel Alexandra THANK YOU!!!

Both were great horses, but Rachel did that as a 3YR OLD FILLY, the greatest 3yr old filly campaign EVER, if you wish to talk about the girls though now you have to include WINX !!!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9mAnKmhz9rbeH0.html

baloney. Curlin was dominating that campaign so hard to pick up wins. Past the point nearly beat Curlin, too. And then Macho Again showed his class here, posting a crazy Beyer. Honestly, Macho Again should've won this race if he doesn't go so wide, he does

Zenyatta beat the worst BC field ever. Not one horse had a win over QUIRKY SA synthetic track. Zenyatta had huge home field advantage and shouldve been 2-5

You most definitely know your horse racing, they tried to sabotage her effort, but talent can't be denied.

I agree-Ruffian, Rachel, and then the diminutive Dark Mirage

Rachel Alexandra's Mother Goose is *not* the only record of Ruffian's that has fallen. Since 2002 a filly named You has held the stakes record of 1:34.05 for the Acorn Stakes, previously held by Ruffian at 1:34.40 source: Wikipedia's article on the Comely and website for Ruffian" Racing's Greatest Filly Ruffian's Belmont track record of 1:03 for 5 1/2 furlongs, set in her maiden & equaled in her Fashion Stakes, was bettered in 2004 by Mike's Classic, in a time of 1:02.26 source: Equibase's page for Belmont track records, and website for Ruffian: Racing's Greatest Filly Ruffian's stakes records for the Fashion, Spinaway, Comely and Coaching Club American Oaks cannot be broken, because for varying amounts of time those races have not been contested at the distances they were run at while she was racing. The CCAO, for instance, is now run at 9 furlongs rather than the 12 furlongs Ruffian ran in 1975.

Julie, oh so you asked them? That is interesting.

@@kitsunedao3895 Did they? They do RA out of her comfort zone multiple times.

​@@kitsunedao3895Zenyatta ran against garbage cans. Ladys Secret was best mare ever...

Regret, Fashion, Shuvee, Ruffian, Kinscem...and Sceptre had a greater one-year campaign winning four of the English Classics - history offers us more, and she takes her place among the greats.

You got that right. I was running at the Fair Grounds when she shipped in and happened to be there when she got off the truck. That filly was a wreck. Very thin, didn't look sound at the walk even. Nobody ever tells the truth about any of this. When Asmussen started sending her to the track again, it was always first thing, in the dark. The official story was that she needed some down time. If that were true, why send her to the FG? The backside has little grass and only one turn-out paddock (for the stable ponies). After a six-month layup BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT SOUND NO MATTER HOW MANY TRAINING MEDS SHE ATE IN HER FEED OR HOW MANY OF HER JOINTS GOT TAPPED, she ran 2nd in the ungraded New Orleans Ladies Stakes (I watched her from the rail on the backside and thought she looked wrong, not the same action, no way... never won another G1 and only made four more starts afterwards with a two month layup between the G2 La Troienne and the ungraded Fleur de Lis where she ran 2nd and 1st. I'll never forget Asmussen bringing her off the truck at the FG for his photo ops, then handing her off to yet another amorphous Mexican who walked her around and around the barn as she dripped sweat (it wasn't hot), totally washed out and as unhappy a filly as I've ever seen. A filly with such talent and such heart, run into the ground as a 4YO with only 19 lifetime starts... and for what? A sound, honest filly full of try... destroyed, and for what? Her ankles looked BAD on the rare occasions she stepped out of her stall at the FG without wraps on. Gonna stop now. I know too much, ran against Asmussen's B Team too many times to remember. The things that went on in his barns down here, nobody would believe me, and it makes everything on the PETA video look pale by comparison (not a bit of which, may I add, presented a distorted view of how most barns operate). Why bother? If I told what I know, I'd get attacked (yet again) and accused of being a member of PETA (as if racehorse owners and lifelong H/J competitors/trainers were PETA material). Tant pis, trop tard (Calvin would understand what I just said).

I'm just surprised everyone forgot about Asmussen and the PETA video. How could you ever vote a trainer like that into the hall of fame? How could you treat a great horse like Nehro like that? It disgusts me and I am further bothered that he got voted in. Scott Blasi was fired only to be rehired a few months later. Those guys are terrible trainers and should have been banned from sport. Can't believe owners would place horses with them...

@@froggey5689 Agree. Don't like or trust Asmussen at all. The only thing I don't like about Rachel's campaign is the fact that he was her trainer for much of it.

She deserved better, too much pressure for a 3YO filly against older horses....

@@froggey5689 And you do realize PETA has made assumptions about horses that are untrue. Many need to really study horses behavior before assuming

This has become common wisdom, but I disagree with it. A number of these horses came in in good form and off of fast workouts, winning races like the Stephen Foster and The Alysheba. It was hardly a vintage Wooodward as far as the talent of the field, but Past The Point, just to name horse, almost beat Curlin.

that's because Curlin was dominating! wtf are you talking about? Macho Again just dropped a 110 Beyer in this race, like were you even watching?

My man a stone cold killer. None of those horses were ever the same after looking her in the eye after that race. And unfortunately she wasn’t the same either. She left her heart on that track that day.

@@christianburk2432 Agreed she sealed hoy with that win

@@35blackmagic1 absolutely. And I know zenyatta was great but there was no way she catches Rachel at a mile and 1/8th that year. Z was managed carefully and didn’t have the resume that year to be HOY. Yes I know she won the breeders cup classic but Rachel beat the boys 3x thst year and set multiple track records. Sorry I went off on a tangent.

is there any video that has the crowd noise that you know of ?