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@user-cv1jf1wq2m
@user-cv1jf1wq2m 3 күн бұрын
Hey don’t insult idiots such as myself with your accurate and well thought out reviews of bow with well designed charts that actually express what you are explaining! I happen to be an idiot according to my daughters when I make them behave! 😂 ❤ 🏹🦌🏹🦌🏹🦌😎
@t.vineis5825
@t.vineis5825 29 күн бұрын
How is the penetration of these heads compared to a woodsman or a two blade Simmons? Thanks for the video!
@Mosconi526
@Mosconi526 Ай бұрын
Is Howard Hill archery still making bows??
@larryadams2184
@larryadams2184 Ай бұрын
How about the cheetah what do you think about it
@davida.4933
@davida.4933 Ай бұрын
A major problem is the instinctive paradigm and not getting close to game.
@robertpeters6923
@robertpeters6923 2 ай бұрын
Cool video fixing to swap out das for ilf. Thanks for showing us how to do it.
@johnbottone4996
@johnbottone4996 2 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that most traditional bowhanna's. Kill deer at 15 yd average 20 at the most.I can't understand the difference.It would make at those distances in speed
@sjohn_8627
@sjohn_8627 2 ай бұрын
It would be awesome if you did a video on how to set a Das bow up. Like where the limb bolts are actually bottomed out at. Is it better to measure brace from grip to string or from string to side plate. There’s a lot of confusing stuff in the manual.
@tradbow25
@tradbow25 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been hunting with my English since 2007, best longbow I’ve ever shot. I sure wish I could have met Allen in person to tell him the same. RIP…God Bless sir. 🙏
@kentwilliams3326
@kentwilliams3326 3 ай бұрын
I have owned 70", 68" and a 66" Howard Hill Bamboo core longbows. My draw, after a motorcycle crash is 24", so the 66" is perfect for me. The 66" limbs are significantly more streamlined and a look significantly better to me. The 70" had significantly more hand shock upon release. One would have to use a quite a bit heavier arrow to tame that bow.
@kentwilliams3326
@kentwilliams3326 3 ай бұрын
Sadly Howard Hill Archery will be shutting down shortly as announced on their web site. Two of my bows are 66" Wesley Specials, but the limb core is cross laminated bamboo, called "Lamboo." Outstanding bows!
@MarkSeverance-hh4ts
@MarkSeverance-hh4ts 4 ай бұрын
I’m looking at snagging a 66” Wesley Special for a good price that’s built for string follow. In your opinion; would the string follow negate enough of the critical-ness of the bow to even out the performance vs forgiveness issue? Also, my other concern is that it’s 66” instead of 68”. I have a 66” ASL already, but it’s reverse handle. I’m worried that the 66” standard handle will stack at my 29” draw.
@billhess293
@billhess293 4 ай бұрын
People too.That I see overbow themselves. Though
@billhess293
@billhess293 4 ай бұрын
I never knew about him to just recently.And then I had a chance to buy the one of his bows used english and it was a great bow with yew
@billhess293
@billhess293 4 ай бұрын
I have one of his original english with the locator grip.And I like listening to your lab test of his bows
@robcarr8505
@robcarr8505 5 ай бұрын
Awesome review. I'm trying to learn as much as possible before making a decision on a hill style bow.
@robcarr8505
@robcarr8505 5 ай бұрын
Have you heard of "7 Lakes Archery"? I'm trying to research them on KZfaq but can't find anything.
@calhiser8265
@calhiser8265 5 ай бұрын
I had a Hill sentential with a dished grip, that I found put to much d shock in the web of my hand. I much prefer the straight grip. I have been a straight limb bow guy for 30 years. We are always looking for another bow that has superior performance. Thanks 😊 My personal favorite so far was a Jack Harrison Black Wolf.
@jeffbryan4743
@jeffbryan4743 5 ай бұрын
CODY: HOW DO WE ACCESS ALL THAT TRADLAB TESTING YOU HAD ON YOUR WEBSITE BEFORE YOU WENT TO DOING KZfaq ONLY? That is the most valuable information on trad archery testing that has ever been done, and it really let us know what is out there and how it performed. Is there a way to get all that data from you ?? Jeff. P.S I shoot Centaur Triple Carbon Elite #59@31, and I have 3 Toelke bows: 2 66 inches one at #48 and the other at #53, and the 3rd is a Whistler #52. Thanks.
@davidharris7687
@davidharris7687 5 ай бұрын
Excellent honest review!
@lawrencefranck9417
@lawrencefranck9417 5 ай бұрын
I waited to long to order a Liberty. I am so disappointed and saddened by Allen’s passing.
@outdoorsythings2573
@outdoorsythings2573 6 ай бұрын
A HH bow is my dream bow, in 60 or 65 lb at 68in with no shelf. can shoot ether hand no dominant eye and am fully ambidextrous so why get 2 bows one for each hand when one with no shelf lets me shoot it ether hand. hopefully, in the next few months, I'll order one if the truck stops breaking
@peterdarby793
@peterdarby793 8 ай бұрын
I asked Bob Wesley to order me a HH bow after taking his class. I have a 70” 55lb Wesley special. Great review. I found, like you, that with a specific grip the hand shock is significantly reduced. For me i don’t even notice it. The speed is not great, but who cares. And I like your term “tightness”. I always just said that it seems to jump up quickly in weight as you pull but then smooths out till you reach anchor. Love the bow. Very nice review.
@calhiser8265
@calhiser8265 8 ай бұрын
Love my Westley specials 68" 65@29 and 64" 60@29 In the past I have had these, a 70"tembo 70@29 a 70" King of the North 70@29 and a Centennial 64" 70@29 The simple long bow is nothing more or less than I need. Remember that the closer the game the more certain the outcome, no matter the weapon.
@CampfireKodiak
@CampfireKodiak 9 ай бұрын
Man, I learned a lot here! I really hate to ask this question for fear of hate mail but where do you think the Bear Montana longbow would fit here? Are there any bows you mentioned that would be similar?
@AnimaTriste
@AnimaTriste 7 ай бұрын
Bear Montana would fit in a fence like any other fence posts... And that is all you need to know. 😂😂😂 Sorry, I don't mean to offend you or anyone, but there are many, many better and more efficient bows for almost half the price out there.
@CampfireKodiak
@CampfireKodiak 7 ай бұрын
@@AnimaTriste No offense taken. I don't own one but always wondered why opinions on it are so polarized
@AnimaTriste
@AnimaTriste 7 ай бұрын
@CampfireKodiak Thank you for your kind answer. The intention of my comment was really just to make you reconsider your decision to buy one or to understand that you are not the only one disappointed if you already have one. The bow is very badly made for a price, and highly inefficient due to bow profile and heavy, broad limbs, especially in the last third of limb length. The bow has a tremendous handschock and is slow. They sell under average bow just for the name of it for a price that would enable you to get a really good bow elsewhere. Best wishes!
@clee5653
@clee5653 9 ай бұрын
HHA advertises their bows have a speed of "115 feet per second plus the weight of the bow." 43 plus 115 is 158, so 166 is very impressive. However, I do wish you to test heavier poundages to see if they have better performance while retaining the smoothness.
@williambilse
@williambilse 9 ай бұрын
With ILF the limb is not supposed to be bottomed out against the tiller bolt. The dovetail hardware bottoms out leaving a gap between the limb fork and the tiller bolt.
@davetoms63
@davetoms63 9 ай бұрын
What ilf is good for hunting?
@zzp1
@zzp1 10 ай бұрын
I have some original docs about Howard Hill. In Afraca he used a 100 lbs longbow. The use of a 43 lbs looks to me ridiculous.
@lawrencefloyd5411
@lawrencefloyd5411 11 ай бұрын
What glue do you use to hold down the rubber pads?
@twintwo1429
@twintwo1429 Жыл бұрын
The straight limb laminated fiberglass longbow is the easiest to manufacture and maintain. My first one was great. My 3rd one was excellent. Don't fool yourselves, these bows are great, but never worth more than $300, even for the best. The only way one could cost more than $300 is if it was made from unobtainium wood. Even a homeless man has access to adequate supplies to make a good hill style bow.
@jakesmith7939
@jakesmith7939 Жыл бұрын
Cody what’s your thoughts on using short limbs on a 21in riser to get to the 62amo length? Do you think the shorts affect the limbs much on a 21in riser?
@MidwestTraditionalBowhunting
@MidwestTraditionalBowhunting Жыл бұрын
Cody, I have a question. What is that bow right above the black widow PA?
@bdlit7165
@bdlit7165 Жыл бұрын
I've played a little with velocity vs bow length. From what I've seen the bow length difference has to be a little extreme. More like 64 to 58. I had a friend make me a 64", 60", and 56" reflex deflex bows.
@ExiledExia
@ExiledExia Жыл бұрын
Great review! I learn so much from this
@Greyarcher1
@Greyarcher1 Жыл бұрын
Smoothness and forgivnes = Accuracy! Speed is not even interesting
@joerarey8496
@joerarey8496 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Just found your channel. Thanks for the very down to earth and informative review.
@michaelrocole7174
@michaelrocole7174 Жыл бұрын
My question is does that mass balance point change with high wrist vs low wrist grip style. Then would the weights help tuning these for individual shooting style or grip position.
@michaelrocole7174
@michaelrocole7174 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video
@davidbarneko2841
@davidbarneko2841 Жыл бұрын
Get to the point u drag on n on n on
@bobdrawbaugh4207
@bobdrawbaugh4207 Жыл бұрын
This was great information. Thanks for All the work.
@lesscott8331
@lesscott8331 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your test i personally own a Wesley and legend stick and man they are both great shooting bows!!!!!! Craig at Hill Archery they are a great comp to deal with. Cody please keep up the good work love your test.
@w.glennrobbins1799
@w.glennrobbins1799 Жыл бұрын
This a very eye opening conversation, thank you
@w.glennrobbins1799
@w.glennrobbins1799 Жыл бұрын
Great information, but what about us with shorter than 28" draw , currently shooting a asl 66" string follow I have 25.25 " on a good day, thanks
@joedaniels4646
@joedaniels4646 7 ай бұрын
Yea, no one seems to say much about short draws. I'm 6'5" but due to a few serious elbow and shoulder injuries I only have a 26" draw. (I probably would have a 31+ draw if I never had injuries, but neither arm can be straightened out, so I have a very short draw!)
@markchambers2812
@markchambers2812 Жыл бұрын
Good review Cody 👍
@seanjorgenson8064
@seanjorgenson8064 Жыл бұрын
The dynamic fulcrum is that balance point Eric is talking about.
@randalunderhill831
@randalunderhill831 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoy how you break down the data and show the facts without bias toward brands or trends.
@ericarcoite6134
@ericarcoite6134 Жыл бұрын
What stone setup were you using in the video and what stone(s) would you recommend, I have these blades but I want stones for other uses as well like other broadheads and knives. Thank you
@sammehlberg5766
@sammehlberg5766 Жыл бұрын
Any chance you’ll do Great Plains Bows for a Behind the Bow episode?
@seanjorgenson8064
@seanjorgenson8064 Жыл бұрын
Is the Minnesota stick or ASL smoother to draw at 50pounds. I have just over 26 in. Draw. 64in compares to 68.
@randomguy-dy3uy
@randomguy-dy3uy Жыл бұрын
Went to buy one and found out he passed away.