I think it's a fair comparison because both bikes use T900 carbon fiber for frames (Pinarello uses Torayca T900 and Trek has their version of OCLV 900).

OK. When going down some steep mountains I would usually overcook 140 mm rotors. For me it's 160mm both wheels, or even 180mm at the front.

@@CyclingInsider I forgot to mention, I live in Toronto. Search up how flat it is LOL my fault

​ @helmetculture LOL, that's, I'm speechless 😂 You seriously celebrate a weight saving of 17g per rotor? Seriously? For 17g you get superior breaking performance for high speeds, for riders that weigh more than a child and riders that ride in wet conditions or just break often (heat dissipation). 17g. Wow. And you even live and ride in the flats where weight doesn't matter at all (given you ride a common road bike that weighs less than 10 kg). Thanks for sharing that information😄

I wouldn't bother paying more for the Ultegra Di2 version and a bit better DT Swiss wheels. Aeroad CF SLX 7 is more than enough.

same here

Fair point

It is hoped that madone speed will be revived.

Yes, Trek paintjobs are excellent

I wouldn't bother with CF SLX 8 because CF SLX 7 is more than enough. There won't be much difference between 105 Di2 and Ultegra Di2. Also DT Swiss wheels ARC 1400 or 1600 are very close to each other.

imagine buying a green bike and thinking it's black because some youtuber said so instead of looking at the actual product page

trek madone has always been one of the slowest aero bikes available for the price, and with gen 8 it is almost certain to get significantly slower. Add on top of that a several thousand dollar price increase at the same spec and I would never consider a trek. You could buy 3 canyon aeroad SLX di2 for the price of 1 trek madone SLR, and despite the lower spec they are probably a faster bike.

I prefer Trek, Specialized, Colnago, BMC, Pinarello and many others. The prices charged by Canyon, with a pure direct to consumer model without the middleman, are absurd.

@@oliverjacobs8594 going to need receipts for that statement chief

@@Millicente feel free to check out tour magazine's wind tunnel testing, some people on weight weenies posted a spreadsheet of it for free. The canyon is 2-3 watts more aerodynamic than the SLR 9, and likely 8-9 watts more aerodynamic than the upcoming model. The weight isn't enough to make up for this.

Your comparison is not fair. If you want aero road bike from Decathlon, you need to look at Van Rysel RCR and then the price is $5,500.

​@@CyclingInsider Point taken. But for that price you get SRAM Force and reputable Zipp wheels, the Madone with Force and in-house wheels retails for $9,500!

Trek had to do this new Madone Gen 8 because they saw how Specialized did Tarmac SL 8 (and is selling them like crazy). All of these bikes want to be aero and light. But that's not possible. So I think Trek should have gone even more aero on the new Madone, and then release very light Emonda (below 6.8 kg in top built). I would skip Madone SL5, save a bit more money and go for SL6 because you get electronic Shimano di2 groupset.

@@CyclingInsider thanks - but SL6 is almost double the price of SL5 as has not just di2 but also carbon carbon rims. I can save but can I justify!?

It depends what else is available in your area. Also have a look at Canyon, Giant, Merida and Scott all for circa $2,500. That BMC is a good bike for $2,500.

If it is a Wilier bike which was never used, then this is a good price. If the Merida is the latest 2023/24 model, then I would go for Merida (you can always in the future buy excellent DT Swiss wheels).

Thank you! Both bikes are new, discount in the store

Since I currently have both of these bikes, I can tell you from experience. I can't feel any special difference with Trek Procaliber iso elastomer compared to Canyon Exceed. And Exceed is a bit lighter mountain bike. Both of them are very capable XC bikes.

@@Millicente I don't want to sway you on your decision but I ordered the frameset of the Trek Madone. The bike is aero and fast. SL8 is a top bike don’t get me wrong but the comfort and quickness of the Madone is insane. My advice will be to test ride both and make your decision.

@@ekm3820 thanks

The SL8 is almost certainly more aero. Tour Magazine tested the previous gen Madone at 207 watts, and the SL8 at 208 watts. In Treks own testing they tested the new Madone using aero bottles against the old Madone using standard round bottles. So with an equal bottle setup the new Madone is less aero than the old one. Which makes it less aero than the SL8. Add in the fact that the new Madone is heavier than the SL8 also. So the Trek is heavier, less aero, more expensive and came out over a year later than the SL8. Bit of a fail on Treks behalf.

@@whackachangchangable then the trek is faster. The lower the watts the faster it is since it’s a measure of watts needed to maintain a speed. Unless tour is using watts in a different way

@@whackachangchangable That’s your opinion but my Madone gen8 build is at 7.0kg with pedals. That’s not heavy imo even Tour de France bikes are at 7.3-7.6kg.

Your magazine did say that the normal sl8 frame is not as good in terms of ride feel, bb stiffness, etc so there is something in the s works if you want the best

Ride the new Madone and ride the sl8. The comfort is so damn good compared to sl8.

@@ekm3820 which tier frames did you ride?

@@Millicente SLR 900 oclv version, size medium. I have a Domane RSL and the Madone is just like the Domane in comfort.

@@ekm3820 SL8 s works version?

hehe

I think Giant pricing for the new Revolt is very good

Emonda is a race bike this is an endurance bike so more relaxed geometry. Prices on this are way better too.

Thanks, looking forward to getting one soon.

Shimano Di2 shifters have batteries which are replaceable. One of those CR batteries.

Yes totally fine bike for the price.

It depends what you can get in your country. But start with Canyon, Giant, Merida, Scott. And see what fits your budget.