Venom vs. Ultron | Marvel Champions
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My fastest Marvel Champions win ever!
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@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 2 күн бұрын
Ouch... I faced Venom Goblin only twice at standard, once with Spiderman Miles Morales and his precon, second time with SP//dr and Spiderham. Not easy but won... Starting thinking that had luck both times... Thanks for the video!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 2 күн бұрын
@@OresteGamba thanks for watching!
@ramonosuke
@ramonosuke 2 күн бұрын
I heard substituting his broken “goblin glider” modular with “Goblin Tricks” from the Green Goblin villain set, balances him out, makes it less swingy but still retains the challenge. Also Gang Up is the reason why I want to pick up AoA for “Standard 3” I absolutely hate that card, and it’s pure imbalance makes me want to just rip it up My brother was so done with Venom Goblin, he whipped out Dr. Strange and just obliterated him. It’s still annoying needing to do that though.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 2 күн бұрын
Goblin Gimmicks wouldn't have helped in this game because the Advanced Glider never came out, and even so I didn't want to make the switch since I was playing the campaign. I just really dislike Venom Goblin LOL
@chadhostetter1632
@chadhostetter1632 3 күн бұрын
You can't win them all, but it still sucks to lose haha! It was a fun series though!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 3 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah it does suck to lose, but I think it's also good to show losses. I didn't want to of course, but I was sick of beating my head against this scenario LOL
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 3 күн бұрын
A quick loss! I really struggled against Venom Goblin in all of my test games :( Also, I should have been putting threat on every Main at the start of each villain phase, not just the one with the glider, but I forgot.
@GetUpandGame
@GetUpandGame 3 күн бұрын
When the villain attacks, and when the villain initiates an attack are the exact same timing. But since Ultron’s ability is a forced response, it takes priority over grasping tendrils. So you did it properly having Ultron put out a drone and then canceling his attack.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 3 күн бұрын
@@GetUpandGame thanks Josh!
@Simsss86
@Simsss86 3 күн бұрын
Nice playthrough! But just a little FYI there, Venom’s thwart, attack and defense cards give you a bonus only if you paid them completely with the specified ressource type, so no stun if you pay only with one strength resource etc
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I was just replying to another commenter that I misread all of those cards. In fact, that other commenter had pointed that out to me in another video (My Favorite Hero Cards from Wave 3) and I STILL misread them LOL!
@alberttaco3668
@alberttaco3668 3 күн бұрын
Nice to see Venom with shield! My justice deck is quite similar, but never thought of that! However, you did misplay the attack event "savage attack". If you want the overkill you need 2 lightning resource, as I told you in previous video. ie: You could use one from your hand and the other from his ability. This said, it would not have change the outcome of this peculiar run. I rarely play Ultron, I find him oppressive, and somewhat easy to counterplay. Maybe I should play him more to revise my judgement. Very nice game!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I actually misplayed (and misread) all of his events as "using A" specific resource, rather than "using only". Oh well, I'll pay more attention in the future! I went back and re-read your comment on my "Wave 3 favorite hero cards" video and yeah, you pointed that out to me LOL. Ultron IS oppressive, so wins against him are always fun (for me), even if I have to build for him (which I didn't do in this case because it's ZiggyZ55's deck, but I did with Rocket LOL).
@alberttaco3668
@alberttaco3668 3 күн бұрын
@@solomarvelchampion Don't worry, we all do misplays and that is fine. It is game with lots of rules and nitpick lol. PS: I often run a copy of "enhanced physics" if I run "power in all of us" with Venom, so I can pay his crazy defense card without trouble. :p
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 3 күн бұрын
@@alberttaco3668 good call! I'm going to continue to play around with Venom. My entire experience with him in the past was 3 games with his precon, and he was fun to play against Ultron, so he deserves some more time at my table LOL
@ZiggyZ55Z
@ZiggyZ55Z 4 күн бұрын
This was so fun to watch! I need to go back to that deck and tweak it since my collection has grown since I made it. I was so excited when you pulled shadows! I got real good with venom cause there was two months where all I had was venom and Kang to play against.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 3 күн бұрын
@@ZiggyZ55Z it was fun to play! I'll tweak it a bit too with some cards you don't have. When I was building that Gambit deck for you I really wanted to add Upside the Head and Float Like a Butterfly (both in the Psylocke pack), and they'll probably make it into the tweak!
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 4 күн бұрын
Venom (and Spider Ham) are the bane for Ultron... Very interesting match! Thanks for the video!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 4 күн бұрын
@@OresteGamba and Rocket! Yeah Venom didn't have any problem with Ultron!
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 3 күн бұрын
@@solomarvelchampion right, forgot Rocket!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 4 күн бұрын
Some sloppy play ensues in my second collaboration game with Rey Plays Games and ZiggyZ55, including a super inefficient turn1 LOL Check out their channels! www.youtube.com/@Rey_Plays_Games www.youtube.com/@ZiggyZ55Z ZiggyZ55's Decklist: marvelcdb.com/decklist/view/40298/the-deck-that-beat-d20-s-valkyrie-core-set-run-3.0
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 4 күн бұрын
Wow! Impressive! Thanks for the video. Drax is definitely rush friendly...
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 4 күн бұрын
He is, but that was the best game I'd ever had with him! Thanks for watching!
@ZiggyZ55Z
@ZiggyZ55Z 4 күн бұрын
Watching at 2X speed I didn’t even realize it was over when it was! Good game! Should’ve done expert right after lol!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 4 күн бұрын
@@ZiggyZ55Z I thought about it, but I was surprised myself that it was over already and wanted to get to editing to make sure I didn't make any mistakes lol
@Rey_Plays_Games
@Rey_Plays_Games 5 күн бұрын
So much fun to watch!! Yeah, Drax is just innately powerful... breezed through Collector!! Thanks so much for jumping into this idea... can't wait to show off your Ant Man deck!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 5 күн бұрын
@@Rey_Plays_Games it was fun to play for sure! Can't wait for your video!
@chadhostetter1632
@chadhostetter1632 5 күн бұрын
Holy cow man, my coffee isn't even done brewing!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 5 күн бұрын
LOL yeah it was fast, but I had some luck too :)
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 5 күн бұрын
My fastest win ever, although I got REALLY lucky with my card draws and the ONE encounter card I got. I've never been so excited to draw a gang up LOL. This is a Drax deck built by Rey from Ray Plays Games! for a collaboration we're doing with ZiggyZ55! Check out their channels! www.youtube.com/@Rey_Plays_Games www.youtube.com/@ZiggyZ55Z Rey's Decklist: marvelcdb.com/deck/view/622033?deck_name=RPG_Never%20Say%20Die My post-game tweaks for this deck: marvelcdb.com/deck/view/754647
@alberttaco3668
@alberttaco3668 5 күн бұрын
That is the thing about Collector I. With the right strategy, and right hero to handle that strategy, he can be killed easily. That is why WebWarriorFanatic don't put him very high in difficulty. Most players use long term strategy with upgrades and supports and "Collector I" won't let you do that. I like "Collector I" as a standalone challenge, but that's it. Drax on the other hand, is very fun hero, as you demonstrate here lol. I have a protection deck always ready for him. :p
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 5 күн бұрын
@@alberttaco3668 that's actually why C1 is one of my favorites. Coming from LoTR LCG where you're pretty much tech-ing for every scenario, I like that we have at least one in MC!
@alberttaco3668
@alberttaco3668 5 күн бұрын
@@solomarvelchampion I come from LOTRLCG too, but in my country, the youtubers always claim you should not tech against scenario in LOTR. So they all end up playing ultra boring/fast/consistent powerful deck that build unbreakable board on 1-2 turns lol.
@billlavine3429
@billlavine3429 6 күн бұрын
My minor gripe. Your sidebar has the hero at the top and villain at the bottom, but the play area obviously has villain at the top and hero at the bottom.... ever thought of changing the sidebar?
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 6 күн бұрын
Funnily I was thinking of that last night! I have two options: swap them (which probably makes the most sense), or change the Marvel Champion logo to "Versus", so it's Hero versus Villain. I was also thinking about eliminating the "transition" sidebar and just fading into the next stage instead (when I go from first to second stage and there's no villain on the display). I could just eliminate the sidebar altogether too, but I have a practical reason for keeping it. Thoughts?
@billlavine3429
@billlavine3429 6 күн бұрын
@@solomarvelchampion just swapping them makes the most sense to me
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 5 күн бұрын
@@billlavine3429 I'll try that and see how it looks :) I still have 4 games uploaded with the current sidebar, then you'll see it change in August!
@alberttaco3668
@alberttaco3668 6 күн бұрын
Alright, another good one! I love Gamora, and I won't develop here, she's just steady and has some big turns too! Now Groot, I like perfect defense for him with victor mancha to stop quickstrike/stun combo. But I only play Groot in 2 players game. Solo, I never played him, so I can't speak for that mode. Now Venom, you definitly have to dive into him. He can do lots of stuff in all aspect. He is guardian so you can play Gamora ally whatever the aspect you chose, and you can give her side arm since venom has tutor for weapon in his kit. You can go aggression with energy spear on Gamora ally and Bug ally, or you can even go protection but it is the least effective. Justice is solid for him no doubt, but the guy is very resilient and has good economy: lots of options with him. PS: I think they switch lighting and fist on venom defense/attack card on purpose. They did not want the player to spam them easily. The overkill, you don't really care most of the time, but the defense card is extremely strong, so the designers want you to get the second fist resource on your own, not with nerves of steel. That would be cheap, and the guy is already very cheap.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 6 күн бұрын
Thanks! As to Venom's cards, I didn't think to say this while I was recording (I had to add text in editing), but he can take a damage to generate a wild, so it's not as bad as I thought LOL. Also, you'll see Venom in action on Thursday vs. Ultron. It's a deck ZiggyZ55 built for our collaboration with Rey Plays Games!
@TheMaskedHero
@TheMaskedHero 7 күн бұрын
Love these! Keep going!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! I was actually thinking about ending this series here, but it's great to hear that someone likes them!!
@DaringLime
@DaringLime 7 күн бұрын
Great video! I made my presentation for a deckbuilding video I was doing. I actually came up with the same ally rule independently of in general including 6 or more.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah allies are so powerful I never like to have fewer than six! I made this video back in December right before my Hawkeye run through Rise of Red Skull. Saving all 4 captive allies in Taskmaster made a HUGE difference in that run, although they are pretty under-costed. I'm glad they "fixed" that in Project Wideawake!
@Rey_Plays_Games
@Rey_Plays_Games 8 күн бұрын
10:08 the ruling for retaliate I am wondering....as I've heard if you defeat the villain and they still have the keyword (retaliate) then they carry that into the next stage...was Alex's (from FFG) confirmation on Hall of Heroes?...I just want to make sure I'm playing it right too!:)
@Rey_Plays_Games
@Rey_Plays_Games 8 күн бұрын
Ok, I'm watching a D20 video now which has the whole saga of retaliate and the answer from Alex...! Who knew Champions rulings would be so dubious!!:p snicker snicker
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 8 күн бұрын
It might be by now, but I saw it on D20's channel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jtaSeJdyydfXc40.html at 8:05 ish. They're throwing out Caleb's ruling from a few years ago and are going to update Retaliate to only trigger if the character with Retaliate is not "defeated". So if you "defeat" a stage of a villain it won't trigger even if it gains (or still has) Retaliate. That makes sense to me, but I wish there weren't so many ambiguities in the game that need to have rulings!
@Rey_Plays_Games
@Rey_Plays_Games 8 күн бұрын
@solomarvelchampion Yeah it makes total sense but like you, the ambiguity is enough for me to see how it can be interpreted differently...glad we got confirmation on it!
@Rey_Plays_Games
@Rey_Plays_Games 8 күн бұрын
It's morning here but I'm going to watch this straight away!:) I'm glad you love Bishop...he is Sooooo Good and so much fun to play! I was wondering if you'd be "game" for something? A crossover of sorts...how would you feel if we provide a deck for each other to play?:)...Just thought it'd be fun! We can either predetermine heroes or villains...or not...! Would you be up for it?:)
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 8 күн бұрын
Yeah that sounds like a cool idea! I might do this with ZiggyZ55 too. Send me an e-mail and we'll discuss it! [email protected]
@alberttaco3668
@alberttaco3668 6 күн бұрын
@Rey_Plays_Games glad to see you here Rey Rey! I hope you will make that project with solomarvelchampion. That would be amazing, I'll be there to watch!
@Rey_Plays_Games
@Rey_Plays_Games 6 күн бұрын
@alberttaco3668 Hey hey!!! We most certainly are in the midst of doing our crossover...Brian and Trevor have already recorded their games...I'm dragging the chain hahaha...but hope to record and release before the weekend!
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 8 күн бұрын
Wow! Awesome deck. Bookmarked! Thanks for the video.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 8 күн бұрын
Thanks, and thanks for watching! I think I'm going to record this deck against Expert Project Wideawake tonight too!
@chadhostetter1632
@chadhostetter1632 8 күн бұрын
GG! Bishop's SO powerful! Not used to evening videos, I normally eat my breakfast to your vids haha
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 8 күн бұрын
Yeah I got so excited about Bishop that as soon as I was done rendering I went ahead and uploaded it, and I didn't want to wait until next Friday to post it!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 8 күн бұрын
A fun game! I didn't realize until after I'd already uploaded it that I defeated Expert Klaw without going through the encounter deck OR my deck! Here's the deck list: marvelcdb.com/decklist/view/40271/uncanny-danger-room-instructor-w-expert-video-1.0
@alberttaco3668
@alberttaco3668 6 күн бұрын
I don't own Bishop but I've watched a lot of games with him on youtube, including this one: The guy seems insane lol. Very fast match, poor klaw. :p GG!
@prufrock1977
@prufrock1977 9 күн бұрын
I hear a lot of love for this scenario, but it has always infuriated me to no end. It’s good to see how other players handle it.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 9 күн бұрын
I think the love comes from 50/50 Nostalgia and Difficulty. It's a great representation of Green Goblin for all the Spider-Man fans, and it's got a decent (and granted, sometimes frustrating) difficulty because of all the minions. I didn't start playing the game until right before Mad Titan's Shadow came out, but when I did I got everything at once and unfortunately my FLGS didn't have a copy of this scenario pack. I wasn't able to get it until after Sinister Motives came out and it felt great to have 2 more "Spidey-villain" scenarios!
@prufrock1977
@prufrock1977 9 күн бұрын
I lost my games when I had to move. But I’m thinking of repurchasing this. Good to see you use the core set for such fun gameplay.
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! When I started my channel I picked this matchup for the first video because my brother said "It's impossible to beat Ultron with just the core box". After watching this one his only comment was "well I guess..." LOL
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 9 күн бұрын
Awesome battle! Thanks for the video!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! I made some sub-par plays, but I got the win in the end :)
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 9 күн бұрын
@@solomarvelchampion congratulations!
@danthecrow1701
@danthecrow1701 10 күн бұрын
Nice video - Agree with most of your picks I think I like Root Stomp for Groot as it actually gets you a growth counter while squishing the villain and I think Decisive blow or the Nebula ally are my favourite for Gamora
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 10 күн бұрын
Those are good choices! Root Stomp was actually my first choice for Groot but I talked myself out of it LOL.
@fracture4047
@fracture4047 15 күн бұрын
I like your list a lot. With my own limited card pool, i have unexpectedly really loved playing Vision more than any other heroes i own. Im not a huge fan of the character but i just really like how he plays. He has a nice slew of thwarts and attack events, some more specialized like removing attachments, a really strong ally, and his forms both feel pretty effective. I will say, i always thought his "cannot defend" in intangible form meant cannot exhaust to defend, so i had been playing protection defend events with him since they were in his precon. However, you can still make protection work with cards like Subdue which dont have the defense keyword. Also, i like his form changing better than the others i have tried simply because you get to choose when to switch. I like Spectrum as well, but her events dictate what form you are in; Vision is the other way around. Anyways, he is fun, strong in all aspects, and great in multiplayer
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 15 күн бұрын
Vision is pretty fun, I just don't play him a lot. I LOVE Phase Disruption and yeah his ally is crazy good. I haven't built a Sidekick deck with him yet, but I bet it would be pretty good!
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 16 күн бұрын
On one side I want scenarios with special situations like Mysterio, on the other side I prefer linear villains... What a paradox... Awesome battle, thanks for the video!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 16 күн бұрын
I kind of feel the same way. Give me something to make the villain unique, but at the same time make them simple to play against. Can't get everything we want LOL
@OresteGamba
@OresteGamba 16 күн бұрын
@@solomarvelchampion 😂 exactly!
@chadhostetter1632
@chadhostetter1632 17 күн бұрын
Mysterio annoys the crap out of me haha. I never have fun playing him!
@solomarvelchampion
@solomarvelchampion 17 күн бұрын
As always, there were a few minor mistakes. I didn't notice until I uploaded that I did Deepest Fear wrong every time (made it worse for myself)!