In college, I used a $600 desktop publishing package for Mac called Quark Express. It was truly the future. It had all of the features of modern MS Word plus more and was easy to use. After I graduated, I purchased a high-end mac and a Laser Writer Pro. The printer still works while I sold the mac to a freind. The next round of macs had quality issues and I jumped to PC for several years. Several years ago, I went back to mac bc their video editing in iMovie and Final Cut was amazing AND also easy. Right now, the quality is good. (knock on wood.) My first comp was an 8-bit Atari. I loved it for many reasons including that it was so well built as to be nearly indestructible. C64 was cheaper, had more memory and more titles.. This became a circular issue for Atari sadly. Less units out there, means less developers make software and therefore fewer sell. It is sad. Somehow, when I moved, I tossed my 8 bit collectedtion, but the new home buyer kept it and just gave it to me. Id love to tinker, but am so busy now. Any suggestions are welcome. Id hate to toss it.
@Zoyx3 күн бұрын
Nolan Bushnell left Atari in Nov 1978. Maybe that's when the CX model numbering system fell apart.
@NJRoadfan3 күн бұрын
One resolution to test that has been "hard to capture" would be 1024x768 interlaced at 43.5Hz. This is an original IBM 8514/A output resolution that many 386/486 era SVGA cards support (ex: Cirrus Logic 542x series). A good test bed would be that 486 and Windows 3.1x. The original OSSC can't capture it at all and other solutions struggle with it as well. The only card I have that properly supports it is an Epiphan DVI2PCIe capture card.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Great suggestion, thanks! I'll see what I can do.
@CROSSBOWHUNTER724 күн бұрын
its is a BOOTLEG PCB!!!
@Vanessaira-Retro4 күн бұрын
Superb job Rees! Thank you for doing all this and getting this video out.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Thanks Vanessa, glad you enjoyed it. There's a lot more to come!
@nickwallette62014 күн бұрын
I am very happy to hear about this. I've been using a couple of the original OSSCs as my scaler/HDMI converter for a few years. They do alright, remarkably good given it's not their core competency, but I'm really anxious for something that can lock on to the signal more quickly. The BIOS boot screen, and often the Windows loading screen, are both just lost in the dark. And sometimes it doesn't come back until I cycle inputs. Minor gripe considering how critical it is that ANYthing exists to do this, but would be nice to have that fixed.
@nickwallette62014 күн бұрын
PS, I didn't know there was a version of Terminal Velocity optimized for early 3D cards. Might have to check that out! Will have to pick up a ViRGE card though, if I can't find one in my couch cushions somewhere. Too bad there's no Mystique version. :-D I wonder how it differs from Fury3?
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
All of the S3 ViRGE games (and patches, where applicable) are available on my website with full instructions. I spent far too much time on it at one point 😅
@humidbeing4 күн бұрын
You can pick up a used Extron 300A for 1/3 the price or less.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Good to know! I should probably pick one up and see how it compares to the various scalers I have here.
@joopidema4 күн бұрын
Nice converter. Had never heard of it. I use the RGBtoHDMI myself and am a great fan of it. Liked the video!
@mattsword414 күн бұрын
love to see your RM machine - always raised a nostalgic smile. Used them at school too :)
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Thanks! I really should do more with it...
@mattsword413 күн бұрын
@@ctrlaltrees I see there is an RM laptop in background too? Used to have one of those as my parents worked in education
@aaroncheah20884 күн бұрын
Will this work with Atari ST via ST2VGA for both mono and colour modes?
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
I've been testing this and the short answer is yes, it works amazingly well with the ST. The slightly longer answer is that the high res mono mode, while looking super sharp, doesn't scale to fill the screen properly. It's something I'm going to feed back to Markus after some more thorough testing.
@JakeWorrell4 күн бұрын
Hi Rees, Have you tried it with the original MDA card on the IBM PC? Hercules would be interesting too.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Good call! I haven't yet but I'm certainly planning on putting it through its paces on all the various MDA / CGA / EGA modes in the very near future. I might do a dedicated video on it...
@JakeWorrell3 күн бұрын
@@ctrlaltrees sounds great, looking forward to it!
@SuperVirus19784 күн бұрын
Hi, may I recommend to DOS fractal generator FractInt for testing? It supports a multitude of exotic video modes and video cards. Maybe it can help Markus trying out some obscure/exotic modes.
@NJRoadfan3 күн бұрын
Someone put out a VGA Monitor benchmark suite on VOGONS. Search for a thread called "LCD monitor VGA compatibility database" by xjas to grab a copy. It is a torture test of DOS demos and applications that even trip up multisync CRTs!
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, I have downloaded it and will be checking it out this weekend. 🙂
@thepirategamerboy124 күн бұрын
There's a tool included in the YAHDI image to force 24khz, in the TOOLS/SCAN31 folder. This is a tool normally used for forcing a machine running in 24khz to do 31khz, but you can also do the reverse. Run S24 in that folder. Most games run fine in 31khz but a few will run too fast or have minor glitches if you don't do 24. Not sure why 24khz wouldn't stick on power-up though, not a huge deal but it'd be nice. Also, I do appreciate your slightly more positive look on the Virge compared to others. That video of you going through all the Virge supported games is still excellent imo.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Thanks! The Virge was certainly a product of its time and while software rendering overtook it pretty rapidly (not to mention the arrival of the Voodoo cards) it's certainly an interesting piece of history.
@paulosmialowski92844 күн бұрын
So glad to see it released after so many years that passed since the very first announcement of Pro. What I miss in this video is a test with some early pre-1994 VGA cards from the 1980s, like 8-bit-ISA Paradise VGA (quite popular at that time, as individual cards or onboard graphics devices), so far no scaler I tried handled them good entirely.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Indeed, it's great to see those component shortages finally lifting and all the great projects finally making it out there. I've had a lot of good suggestions in these comments for other bits of software etc to test all of the various modes out there so I'm not done yet. Part of the reason for putting this out there was because I knew I'd get some good feedback on things to test. Thanks!
@ItsJustJer4 күн бұрын
Weird and old? I find them quite unique and interesting to be honest.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
As do I, hence I've dedicated an entire KZfaq channel to them over the past 4 years. 🙂
@Simon-ui6db4 күн бұрын
I wonder how the ossc would handle an original rm nimbus with their customs graphics they had before they released the pc186.
@ctrlaltrees3 күн бұрын
Alas, if only I could get my hands on one to test! Always been one of my "holy grail" machines.
@MrLurchsThings4 күн бұрын
If it can eventually do composite and be competitive price wise against the RetroTink, it’ll be awesome. I never understood tho why even the original couldn’t do composite and/svideo over the SCART connector given the SCART connector standards support it.
@nickwallette62014 күн бұрын
Because decoding color is a PITA.
@andrewlittleboy85324 күн бұрын
Would be interesting how it works with Acorn A3000 machines and above. I bought an OSSC once but it had a trouble syncing with the various modes that are available on my A4000.
@ctrlaltrees5 күн бұрын
Note: I don’t attempt to measure lag in this video as I can’t speak with any authority on this subject and don’t have the equipment to measure this, and besides, it’s not really relevant for my use case. Be on the lookout for upcoming videos from DFRetro and RetroRGB for scientific measurements as always. All tests in this video were performed in scaler mode using integer scaling with all settings on auto.
@Francois_Dupont3 күн бұрын
sorry to reply to this comment with unrelated stuff. would it be possible to do another Solar Setup video? i actually bought and installed my own DIY solar setup myself following the viewing of your original video. i am interested in buying another inverter next to update my current one..
@ollerich325 күн бұрын
Great video! I might do that mod to my A3010 one day (I had soldered an extra 3.5mm audio jack onto the motherboard back in the days). I was wondering: Do you know WHY Acorn decided to add those filters? I hindsight it seems like a pretty dumb decision.
@McLovinSB847 күн бұрын
Does the 10 in 1 Game Cartridge work with the original 2600?
@user-np9pv3fm9f8 күн бұрын
Mine is not booting from the SSD
@JayForeman8 күн бұрын
I loved Wacky Wheels! Bought my copy in school, of all places, from some guys in the year above taking part in “Young Enterprise”. My favourite memory is playing the duck shoot split screen with my sister. All the music was awesome. I ended up using it (with kind permission from Mark Klem, who’s a really nice guy) as background music in some of my videos.
@karijohartmann26499 күн бұрын
Is there any way to circuit bend this into higher res, more abstract fractals and get rid of the 8-bit clunkiness? Lol. I have old-time light organs here, and even a 3-tiered lamp controller that works as an ad hoc level indicator, though not practically, since it has an auto level implant as old tape recorders have, that will increase sensitivity to where the cat scratching herself will start it strobing! Just seems a kind of interesting starting point to interface and/or circuit bend with some modern audio-visuals... like, for instance, finding a way to take all of those analog output signals, and run them into an analog-to-digital converter, into a blue ray player, or try to saturate and distort said signals, making a crazy untraceable forest of random noise and square waves, etc. All I can say is they did some amazing things with the processing power of a modern calculator! If that. And the diamonds remind me of the final screen in the game Phoenix! Blasting away at the low-res aliens and their mother ship, of jagged blocks... lol.
@Tigrou77779 күн бұрын
This game deserves an open source version with modern OS support and all bells and whistles (eg: faster FPS, high resolution, internet multiplayer gameplay, ...). Similar to OpenTTD and many other games of that era.
@oldschooldude83709 күн бұрын
The rage 3d was so much better if i recall.
@Alianger10 күн бұрын
I've noticed that Puyo Puyo 2 and Rance 4.1 display more colors than usual (around 60 / 100+ respectively) while pretty much all other games from around 1990 onwards only show 16, and older games show 8. Do you have any info on that?
@thepirategamerboy127 күн бұрын
The PC-9821 added built-in 256 color graphics that the 9801 didn't have. It can do that at 640x400 24khz or 640x480 31khz like a PC. SimCity 2000 shown briefly in the second video uses the 640x480 mode for example.
@Alianger7 күн бұрын
@@thepirategamerboy12 I suppose they are 9821 games then even if the boxes or online databases don't mention it. Basement brothers commented on that earlier. Thanks!
@NoThanksnothanks10 күн бұрын
Smash it with a hammer?
@A31Chris13 күн бұрын
I pledged an extra $50 to Rich Whitehouse if they enter and win this.
@atarijaguarsgarage887312 күн бұрын
We have good relations to Rich, we will make sure that he gets his money from you!😅
@A31Chris12 күн бұрын
@@atarijaguarsgarage8873 he has no worries about that.
@atarijaguarsgarage887313 күн бұрын
Nice idea! Looking forward to see some cool stuff in a few Months!
@maximilianobregante475113 күн бұрын
I had a S3 Virge, it was a Diamond card, right before the 3dfx voodoo appear... The virge was a total piece of shit, BUT i remeber playing Indycar Racing and Quake, a fighting game (mostly Gouraud shaded) and a star wars game... Terminal velocity also. But soon after i got a Voodoo and it was sooooo much better. I mean, it was a garbage compared to a voodoo card that from memory I think had the same street price at least in my country. And also the framerates were terrible. Also, as rhe video points out at one time, the software renderer usually ran faster 🤦
@Tolbat13 күн бұрын
Very cool, thank you for doing this, hope to see new blood enter the ring.
@jainra14 күн бұрын
All about the music.
@slmplays15 күн бұрын
I used to spend hours playing guardian on my original Xbox
@rikp16 күн бұрын
I used Ventura Publisher on GEM ca. 1990 and the one killer feature of GEM, I thought, was the large scroll bar size which made them easier to grab than any scroll bars on Mac or Win I've used since. I still miss those.
@SongbirdPro16 күн бұрын
Awesome, thank you for being a part of JagJam! Happy to be involved as well. Minor correction: I did host JagFest in 1999, but not again until this year as a one-time event for the 25th anniversary. Not sure I'm ready to take on hosting an annual event! ;)
@jonny-b495418 күн бұрын
I love the game selection on the OG Xbox. Though, I don't have one, and play all of them on the backwards compatibility of the OG Xbox 360. Which works pretty great and plays almost half of the catalogue (you can mod it to run more of them too)
@DavidAddis21 күн бұрын
This is awesome, you went above and beyond!
@alexsincevich468721 күн бұрын
Nice use of the "Atari ST Font" in your end credits
@kendalchandler335721 күн бұрын
If you watch the 1979 movie, "Over the Edge", you will see one of these babies making a cameo! Incidentally, this movie is available right here on KZfaq!
@8bvg30022 күн бұрын
We had a Amstrad pc 1512, originally running DR DOS and we had GEM. Used to use the paint program and also has a program for making birthday banners/birthday cards... That sort of thing. Then we'd print things out on our Oki Microline. Happy days 😅
@ricardofranco411422 күн бұрын
Are you still using your solar setup to power this youtube channel ?
@CinePhil10123 күн бұрын
❤❤❤
@jtc194724 күн бұрын
Do You have a BIG GUARD DOG ? I loved the IBM 515 and the MODEL F keyboard!
@OldPatheticOne24 күн бұрын
The Voodoo is famous, not infamous ... now the ViRGE, the _ViRGE_ is infamous.
@ryanbareither8925 күн бұрын
Brits always have the best taste in music! What is this genre? 8 bit dnb?
@005AGIMA25 күн бұрын
Jaaaaaag. Love the sound of this. Looking forward to seeing the new games resulting from the comp.
@ActionRetro25 күн бұрын
Wow this is so cool! I love my Jaguar
@datassetteuser35625 күн бұрын
Cheers! Had no idea you're into the Jaguar as well - awesome! 🥂
@ActionRetro25 күн бұрын
@@datassetteuser356 It has the best ever port of Wolfenstein 3D :) :)
@datassetteuser35625 күн бұрын
@@ActionRetro Oh yes! 👍👍
@vampirefrog427726 күн бұрын
Could have called it "Jag-off". Missed opportunity.
@datassetteuser35625 күн бұрын
Sorry for letting you down there. Guess I'm just a Jag-a$& 😂