My god, just great, we live in Lantzville , I have been to your marina many times , also to pick up fresh crab mmmm. How's the setup today , still going good.
@rioborzeli1472 күн бұрын
Love to have 100 solar boat .
@mega20342 күн бұрын
Hello very nice video. How much ($)was the total material used? Thank you
@fidelisconcurso59359 күн бұрын
Hi, i'm looking for information about how can i regenerate energy with the motor when i'm sailing, i kind of a recovery energy break system, anyone has some information about regenerative breaks?
@tsaltz11 күн бұрын
Where did you install the batteries?
@VigilanceTech14 күн бұрын
It would be more efficient to go direct drive without a belt, and if you needed to change the "gear ratio" resize/repitch your prop
@tedarcher91202 күн бұрын
Not really, props are really expensive and belts are cheap. It's easier to calculate and buy the pulley you need than to find a fitting prop. Also, replacing the motor is easier with the belt drive, you just unscrew two bolts and that's it
@treetopflyer13917 күн бұрын
Good on you, for increased performance try swapping the pulleys, increasing the propeller rpm, the motor can handle it, it's up to you with the throttle as to what the motor can handle
@modularhippo22 күн бұрын
Hi OpenROV #272 - Quick message to thank you for your informative video as it helped me in starting my own build. I am designing/building a similar setup as yours but instead using two brush-less/water-cooled 48V 10Kw Golden Motors in parallel (driving one propeller shaft). If you are interested in following the build then I have posted my first video showing the motor housing:) Thanks again and keep the boat adventures coming!!:)
@openrov27218 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@TheWeirdSide1Ай бұрын
All hail the lords of corrupt inflation. Thank you for the honor of allowing my dreams to be crushed. ...good info!
@Coleen-LoveАй бұрын
I was thinking of downgrading to a battery motor but then I looked at it and decided "hell no", I am not an idiot. The silliest downgrade you can do is get a battery powered motor that goes about 15 miles before dying vs my diesel that goes 1,000 miles, costs less, refills instantly, and is super reliable. There is no real decision to be made guys. Don't fall for stupid politics - batteries are dirty and full of chemicals, expensive, pollute the world for 100,000 years after you dump the junk, and cost more. Nough said. Only fools get them.
@Lana_WarwickАй бұрын
That's an opinion. We are all entitled to our own.
@Coleen-LoveАй бұрын
@@Lana_Warwick ...I know I was harsh in my statement, but it is true. Lithium is a terrible mess of chemicals and harmful elements that pollute for 100,000 years after you toss it. Please, use natural energy from the Sun in the form of beautiful naturally produced oil. The Earth has blessed us by making and preserving the Sun's energy. There is nothing stronger, longer lasting, and more natural that Earth's own naturally produced oil. These man made Earth shattering chemical monstrosities are terrible. PS we now know that the Earth is essentially, a massive oil producing "factory" and that we will never run out of in the same way that we will never run out of trees. Nature replenishes itself.
@garybaris1392 ай бұрын
I'm a bit puzzled. Your spreadsheet says that you have two batteries of 48V at 200Ah each which gives you 9,6kWh each or 19.2kWh total. In your video you said that you only had a 10kWh battery bank. I'm not familiar with those batteries and they are not available here but the LiFePO4 batteries we get here are not 48VDC but 53 to 56VDC which changes the calculation somewhat giving 53VDC x 200Ah = 10.6kWh or 56VDC x 200Ah = 11.2kWh per battery. I am assuming that the batteries are the rated voltages I mentioned and not 24VDC base meaning you had them in series to get the "48VDC" you mentioned. It is quite a nice detailed build video, well explained.
@openrov272Ай бұрын
Each of the 2 batteries in my boat are (I think) 51.2 KWh. They are actually 51.2v, 100 Ah each. (But that range is called "48v", which is confusing. :D) So I have a total of 10.4 KWh. Sorry if that was confusing in the video, or on the spreadsheet!
@Shepherdservices3172 ай бұрын
You are so concise. I love it
@normmcleanmclean56322 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reply and great information awesome video
@normmcleanmclean56322 ай бұрын
Could you please give me the approximate weight difference going from diesel to electric including fuel
@openrov2722 ай бұрын
My diesel, universal 5411, wieghted 245 lbs. A full fuel tank weighed about 160lbs. (The universal 5411 is very small for a marine diesel, many catalina 30's had larger, 365 lb, 16 hp version, or a atomic 4 at 437 lbs). In my boat, the electric motor, including mount, was (IIRC) about 50-60lbs. The batteries are 80lbs each, and I have 2. So the total weights are: Diesel - 405 lbs. Electric - 220 lbs.
@herbertbell94382 ай бұрын
I'm trying to buy an Elco electric inboard for my Catalina 27 but I'm running into phone apps. I don't even know if they make a control pannel for their engine. I would think an engine would come with standard gages that tell you RPMs, amps etc. Why on earth would I want to have to drag out a phone to look at this stuff? Not to mention the privacy concerns. This is just amazing to see a company pull something like this. Anyone know of an inboard motor company with actual equipment and no phone apps?
@shaunmark12 ай бұрын
And also a way to require subscriptions and ongoing fees.
@tedarcher91202 күн бұрын
Just install a 100$ tablet and there you have your gauges
@PepinoMichoacan3 ай бұрын
Nice job man ! Next step, tesla swap ?
@zekigokkanat69263 ай бұрын
Better ,go on diesel,nearly same cost uh 😳
@Lana_WarwickАй бұрын
Pros & Cons to both. I'd rather not have the toxic smell & soot, with bonus of Much less running cost & maint. A sailor rarely needs engine or motor, mainly just around tight marinas
@stanleybest88333 ай бұрын
I like my air cooled Chinese 168 F diesel. It's much cheaper and lighter than electric and it charges a battery well. The dry heat is welcome.
@stanleybest88333 ай бұрын
I like my air cooled Chinese 168 F diesel. It's much lighter and cheaper than electric and it charges batteries on very little diesel. Hot dry air is welcome in almost any humid weather.
@Lana_WarwickАй бұрын
Confused? "lighter and cheaper than electric" then "charges batteries"? Any vids to show what you mean?
@stanleybest8833Ай бұрын
@@Lana_Warwick Good question. Read slower and fair seas to you.
@bobl17693 ай бұрын
Nice job, thank, but one must wonder, given the very reasonable price of used boats, whether it would be more effective to find another boat in good shape and upgrade. I’m thinking that if I were to replace the engine, an outboard or Torquedo would be my preference and so avoid the issues associated with the prop, shaft, bearing, etc.
@pironiero4 ай бұрын
this is a very useful video, but its really quiet, im at 100% at windows and 150% in sound booster in browser and its still barely hearable
@openrov2724 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. It is too quiet. I will do it better in the future. :D
@pironiero4 ай бұрын
@@openrov272 hope you will manage to make an update before next spring, im getting myself a boat as well
@TM-tw1py4 ай бұрын
Well done video - Thank you!
@lesvoyagesdesoazig5 ай бұрын
hey, very nice job. it's interesting to know the global budget about this conversion (motor, controller, charger, battery pack) i'm from belgium, and found a representative contact of Thunderstruck in Netherlands.. my boat: a Kelt Sailoat, 30 feet, actually powered by a Yanmar 2GM :) or the same project, this last summer, at LaRochelle BoatShow, a firm in France propose me 15.000€ (motor, controller, charger, batteryPack),.. interesting to compare enjoy the Sea ;)
@johng18575 ай бұрын
This is an excellent video. Like you I also looked everywhere for something like this, and wasn’t able to find one. Thanks for making it.
@openrov2725 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ridmadissanayake52015 ай бұрын
why didnt you add more battery capacity to the boat? cant you add abt 50kwh?
@openrov2725 ай бұрын
Mostly it's the $12000 (plus shipping, taxes, cables and other install costs). :D I would be okay with the extra weight (it would put me about 450 lbs over the weight of the diesel + tank etc).
@veleiroema6 ай бұрын
I shared in my group
@JohnBraman4136 ай бұрын
still no sailing videos? still got i?
@openrov2726 ай бұрын
Still got it. Still love it. :D I haven't had a chance to do anything worth posting, and the data (in terms of range) hasn't changed. I expect to be able to improve things (with wind data) this spring/summer. Last year was super busy for me and I failed to organize anything beyond day sailing. :D
@garygraham71056 ай бұрын
Thought you did a very good job.
@openrov2726 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@arslin6 ай бұрын
I plan on doing the exact same thing as you in the next few years.
@openrov2726 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@jerrycallender93526 ай бұрын
Ne subscriber sending greetings from Tucson, Arizona. I contacted ELCO last year looking for information to complete an electric conversation installation. They were NO help and offered NO information.
@handbed7 ай бұрын
Do you know how many KV your electric motor has?
@openrov2727 ай бұрын
If you mean KW, it is a 10 KW motor. The voltage of the motor is ~48V. So that would be ~0.048 KV. :D
@handbed7 ай бұрын
@@openrov272 no friend! My question is correct. I did not mean KiloWatts and I wrote it correctly, I wrote KV which means Revolutions multiplier by volts, I watched the video again (minute 3:04) where it says 48volt * 50 RPM that means that your motor is 50KV and It gives a maximum total of 2400 RPM and that in the water is very little. You are using an engine that possibly has a lot of torque, do two things, you can get much more success with high revolutions, you can increase the revolutions with gears or change the engine for For a motor with a higher KV, I recommend above 25 thousand RPM, and you will be able to have better success using the same amount of electricity (amps).
@openrov2726 ай бұрын
Ah! Okay, so the max RPM of the motor is (I think) about 2800 RPM. Propeller RPM on sail boats is something like 850-1650, depending on the prop. What I have read is that a large, lower RPM prop, is the best for efficiency (while motoring, but worse when sailing, obviously). So I don't think I could do 25k RPM.
@jehuhand81767 ай бұрын
I used their 5K kit. Very satisfied with quality and customer service.
@ryanb98557 ай бұрын
I typed up a summary. Comments welcome. docs.google.com/document/d/1UWNwufQltgJFzrVRYG5jhMvtZHi4vHT0cVoOnr0EFM8/edit?usp=sharing
@jamesdonaghy91438 ай бұрын
My worry is about how long it will last. I'd be happier with a water-cooled one
@bryanst.martin71348 ай бұрын
I recently installed an electric yacht 20kw in a 37' Irwin, and it was weak. The tides were stiff, and the run from dock to sail area was long. Electric is still a fantasy. Battery densities and motor efficiencies are a ways from max, and alternate power sources should be included. It was quiet and pleasant.
@openrov2728 ай бұрын
Range can certainly the issue with electric motors. But you should not be having an issue with power. A 20kw motor should be plenty powerful for your boat. If it feels weak, then something is wrong. Do you have gear reduction? If you do, the ratio may not be correctly matched to your prop. If your motor reaches max RPM before you prop does, max power will not be attainable. (I have this issue. I set things up for the prop I plan to get, not the one I have. And I haven't gotten the new one yet.) Alternate power sources are a great idea. Some people have a generator for back up. I have a 15hp outboard (for my dingy) that can easily push my boat at hull speed. I haven't used it yet (apart from testing) but I will.
@Lana_WarwickАй бұрын
Yes, maybe something with your setup. There's a vid of a converted all electric commercial lobster trawler hitting the swell called 'An all electric Lobster fishing boat Watch It Work Lorna Jane'. If he can do it.
@hswing118 ай бұрын
BULL SH*T STAY WITH A PROVEN METHODS I C E
@thechannel8x8 ай бұрын
Well done! I feel there was a point in the video where you reached no return - the electric engine *must* work :)
@garrickgaffigan51978 ай бұрын
So glad you mentioned the waterproof eg4's I had not considered those for my build. They're now 200 more each than the server rack versions I was planning, and I'm buying 8, but the waterproof feature makes me think these are the better option.
@openrov2728 ай бұрын
I think you are right. You have to protect them one way or another, and if the waterproof ones leak, it someone else's fault! (just kidding. sort-of) The insides of boats get wet more often than the insides of houses, so rack mounted batteries, on a boat, really are in danger of shorting out. If rack mounted batteries had been in stock when I needed them, I totally would have bought them. And I would have regretted it. :O
@joemauma50357 ай бұрын
Just to clarify, these are 48v 100amp batteries (with a 200 amp maximum discharge rate). They're on sale now (12/12/23) for $999 reg $1649@@openrov272
@SpaceDad429 ай бұрын
Real men use diesel.
@tonystites21349 ай бұрын
From your states it does not sound like it would be good for Island hoping and crossing the ocean. more of a lake option
@TheGreenBoater9 ай бұрын
We need more of these videos showing real life stories of electric powered boat coversions. A growth market for sure. Kudos!!!
@jamesankiewicz31419 ай бұрын
Great video amigo!
@openrov2729 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@garyconway10739 ай бұрын
I believe installing a E motor in a sailboat is a BIG MISTAKE.
@argentosebastian9 ай бұрын
I don't understand the advantage of electric that you can run for....(a couple of hrs, I guess) to a combustion engine that you can run forever
@openrov2729 ай бұрын
There are a ton of advantages to electric. Range is NOT one of them. (Unless you have all the time in the world, then, if you have solar panels, you could be boat-energy independent! But I don't think that would work for very many people.) Low noise. low maintenance. High torque, and instant power, on and off at the flick of a switch. The ability to run the prop at very low rpm. There are other small advantages I haven't used more than 50% of my battery in my outings. But I mostly go day sailing. You don't need a lot of energy to motor in and out of the marina. But I expect time crunches when cruising. For that I have my dinghy's outboard. It pushes the boat at hull speed. I haven't needed it yet though. But when I do, I will happily burn the required gasoline.
@user-ch2op3hm6d9 ай бұрын
What’s your max range motoring at near hull speed ?
@openrov2729 ай бұрын
If motoring long distances at Hull Speed is the most important feature for you, I wouldn't go electric. Range is the one factor that is still very(very) much better with a gas/diesel power-plant. I have an outboard as a backup, in case I want to motor for long periods of time. But I haven't used it yet. I can motor at about 3 knots (2kw) for 5 hours, and that has worked well for me. Currently, my prop does not match my gear reduction ratio. (This is because I am replacing the prop, so I made the calculation for the new prop not the current one.) So I would have to guess to answer your question. I can't claim it reaches hull speed, because I haven't done it. With the 10 KWH of battery power I have, using the 10kw motor that I have, I can go at full power for 1 hour. (the range is weather dependent) The diesel motor, which I replaced, couldn't reach hull speed anyway, but this motor will get closer to it. (It might actually do hull speed, the math suggests it can.) I generally run the motor at a set power level (2-4k) so I know that I will get either 5 -2.5 hours of motoring. If you reduce your speed by 1 knot, you use half the power. So running at 2 knots below hull speed save uses 1/4 the power of hull speed.
@RainAndStorm10 ай бұрын
That's a really good video, thank you for making it. I have a playlist of how I mounted my 10KW inboards by E-Tech into my catamaran's bilges. Used 3D scanner and 3D printer.
@openrov2729 ай бұрын
Thanks! I haven't had a chance to watch your videos yet, but I plan to!
@michaelcalandra10 ай бұрын
What brand of electric motor (specs),kit?
@openrov27210 ай бұрын
It's a thunderstruck motors kit. 10KW motor. www.thunderstruck-ev.com/10kw-brushless-sailboat-kit-sevcon.html
@robbinbaker549711 ай бұрын
Have you thought of supplying voltage for the electric motor with a gas/diesel generator ?
@openrov27211 ай бұрын
It's a great idea, especially for longer cruising trips. I don't have one, but I do have a 15 hp outboard for my dingy, and it easily pushes my boat at hull speed. So that is my back up currently. But I have seen (on youtube) several people use generators as back up when cruising. They are relatively small an inexpensive these days (for gas generators.) In a bigger boat, a diesel generator would be great.
@cornelisvanderbent856911 ай бұрын
10kW motor and 10kWh batteries means with 100% charged batteries you can motor just 1 hour at full power. Not practical and actually ridiculous.
@hterrebrood3 ай бұрын
That is at hull speed. The 5 hour range, if no recharge capability mind you, at 4 knots is fine. Solar and wind generation recharging push him all day.
@chrisstephens99483 ай бұрын
ignorance
@hterrebrood3 ай бұрын
@chrisstephens9948 like those that hear the first line of the analysis and stop listening. Then posting a comment making them look as thick as two thick things. There is a Dutch guy that sailed for 1 month, where he logged 80% overcast or rainy days and ran his boat's electric motor and all of the electronics in his boat without ever needing external electricity to charge his batteries. Oh well, some will just be so set against change that they cannot accept electric motor with wind and solar regeneration, even as it is being proven. Someone should ask the dumbass original poster, "how often do you operate your diesel at full speed?" What a moron.
@L-3611 ай бұрын
I have a Gray Marine engine that works fine but it takes half an hour to unstick the recently replaced (they said that would fix the problem...) #1 exhaust valve every time I want to go sailing. I have been watching every electric conversion video I can find and this is the best so far. One thing that gives me pause is that many of the older videos on conversions end with the owner removing the motor and putting an engine back in the boat. Now that you have a year of experience, how's it going?
@openrov27211 ай бұрын
I really like it. I have plenty of power to motor out for sailing and then back into the marina. I also have an outboard, in case I want/need to motor long distances and need to rely on gas. I haven't had need of it yet, but since I have the outboard for my dingy anyway, it solves the infrequent (for me) range issue. :D
@L-3611 ай бұрын
@@openrov272 Thank you for the prompt reply. Your boat is 10,200 pounds and 30 feet long and has a 10KW motor. Mine is 12,000 pounds and 36 feet long. Do you feel you have enough reserve power that you would use the same motor for my boat or would you scale up and get the 12KW motor? My use condition sounds similar to yours. I would need full power for the 1/2 mile dead into the not unusual 25 knot wind marina entrance channel. Other than that, it would be light wind usage. I sail in SF Bay so would never have to motor in big seas.
@openrov27211 ай бұрын
I would go with the 24kw. It is same price as the 12kw. It's a little more efficient to have the higher voltage. It think it is the same "everything" as the 12kw, but programed for 96v instead of 48 or 72. The downside, is that you would need 2 48v batteries in series, so if one failed your voltage would drop in half. I don't know if the motor would work at all at 48v. If you can afford the extra $3000-3500 USD, then you could buy an extra 2 batteries, to solve that problem. :D
@L-3611 ай бұрын
@@openrov272 I had not considered higher voltage as my needs are so slight. It would be an unusual day I had to go 2 miles. 1/2 a mile of that might stress the motor but other than that, 2 knots would be fine. Obviously thee are a few days a year when the wind dies and I want to get back and turn on the engine. I take it from your reply that you don't think the 10kW motor would be enough. Am I correct on that?
@openrov27211 ай бұрын
Their site says "up to 12000lbs". So in theory it should be fine. The larger motor is $800 more, which for boat stuff, doesn't seem like a huge amount. (it's still 800+ dollars though!) It would mean you were not so close to the line between powerful enough and not powerful enough. The 10kw would get you 2 knots without any difficulty though. I run my boat at 2-4kw. 2kw normally. 4kw on the way home. heh. And I go whatever speed that power gets me at the time. If my hull is clean (which is not the case right now) and if wind is not too bad, I get 3.5 knots (+/- wind current effects) at 2kw and about a knot more at 4kw.