Is there an engine brake on that bus?

Good catch!

Great 😅 nice gmc

Im ready for the longer more extensive video! I bought a 1957 4104 and i am trying to learn how to drive it. I'm going in blind here. Ive taken a special interest in these buses and have been operating on a "ill figure it out later" mindset But now its later and i need help 🙃 Im an on hands/ visual learner and your videos are the only ones ive found on how to operate these things. Any resources you learned from are greatly appreciated

I was born in 1959 Argentina. I remembered to see some bus on the road.

Tell me about that sailboat please ;)

I just found the video and thank you for sharing this. As someone who has been blind all my life, I have always enjoyed riding in buses with manual transmission, but driving one seems to be another thing altogether. This video shows me that and explains a few things I have heard over the years, when writing in Coaches with manual transmission in Canada. for example: revving the bus high in order for it to grab a gear when shifting down and I always thought that the bus had done it on its own, whether it was standard or automatic. the other thing for me is the synchronized shifting, versus not synchronized. What exactly does that mean, as I've never thought to ask or had it explained to me properly? Again, thanks for sharing.

All I can say is no no no mate you got it all wrong. It sounds like you have no idea how to drive properly.

That some real progress from the first video smooth and no stress or violence on the gearbox 🥂

After you drive it awhile you will know by sound of engine when to shift.

Interesting that your 1st gear tops out at around 15ish. My car's 1st gear tops out closer to 9 or 10, and my 4th gear tops out by about 45 to 50.

Use your tach when shifting helps a lot. Great coach that and Scenic Cruiser.

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Good Job! Good Show!

Bro you can single clutch it Using the throttle n rpms back off throttle a little pill it out of gear then clutch in to put in next gear Wish I could take ya for a ride and show ya it will save the clutch n your left leg

You can single clutch it Use the rpms and let off the throttle a little pull out of gear then clutch in put in next gear

You always double clutch up and down that's how you shift buses and semis 1st gear you want to shift before the governor hits at 15mph so shift it at 13 14 2nd gear goes from 15 to around 30 3rd gear 35 to 40 4th gear 40 to 55 if you don't want to double clutch shift like the Greyhound driver's were taught clutch once put in neutral Rev the engine not scream it wait for the rpms to drop some then shift it and you want to use the brakes and transmission at the same time for a smooth stop and remember the passenger's are in the back listening to then engine if you want to learn how to properly double clutch it's easy push the clutch to the floor shift from 1st to neutral come off the clutch all the way push the clutch all the way in when then rpms starts to drop with the clutch to the floor the go to the next gear you have to listen to the engine when shifting in reverse the coach has to be at a complete stop flip the solenoid switch to reverse hold the switch until you put it in reverse

So cool seeing and riding along this bus! Great explanation re: the non-synchro transmission and details when shifting. I recall seeing the school bus driver double clutch a GMC school bus, a 1964 or so. I respect the skill needed to drive this!

double clutch

I’ve ridden many a mile on both Greyhound and Trailways 4104s in the 50s and 60s.

If it’s a 6-71 there are millions of them.

😂 good carr

Nice job!! My 4104 has an air throttle so it's a little delayed on the shifts. Thanks!

Cannonball or Crackerbox, which one of these trucks u were driven?

Former Greyhpund Driver here. You will see a color code on your speedometer. You shift at each change of color at max rev. Should be at 20 to 2nd, 30 to 3rd, and 50 to 4th. Just double clutch counting one one thousand, two one thousand. Down shifts are at same speeds down shifting with max RPM with throtle on the double clutch. Bye the way get rid of the air seat. You don't need it.

I would think you need your air brake ticket

i know this is an old vid n ya probably got the timing down,but the easiest way. to get shifting smoothly is only push the clutch down about 2 inches when double clutching and shift immediately.the pause in neutral is very breif.your to slow gettin into the next gear .shift b4 the engine hits the governor.stay away from sliding gears till your timing is perfect,the short clutch pedal action will get that there but done incorrectly the damage will likely be permanent.

What’s your plans 4 this coach?

Whoever taught this guy is a complete failure

Very pretty bus I really enjoyed watching your video love the sound of the motor

You can just float those gears without the clutch.

WHAT is wrong with your seat?

Here is a Tip for You to Help in Shifting. Theory is "Engine RPM's Verses Road Speed"

It looks to me like you are not "double" clutching correctly. You might just not be saying it but when double clutching you depress the clutch to pull out of a gear and release the clutch in neutral. This brings the trans to engine speed, then depress the clutch to pull into the next higher gear. That's the way its done.

Bumps on road

Nonsynchro transmissions are not that hard to shift. And you don't really need to rev the engine that much nor that long on the downshift. It takes time, but you can develop a rhythm. Also, until you learn to listen to the engine speed, use the tachometer.

I remember when these buses were everywhere on interstate highways in the New York Tri-state Area. What a great vehicle to own. 👍

I like old vintage GM bus Detroit Diesel 6-71 6 cylinder

Great video. Thanks for this

Just discovered this, Ross! You and the guys did a great job filming this and presented a great message about land preservation. Hope all is well in your world!

Use to drive them when I was in my early 20's first job. FYI, if you lower your seat all the way down, and put a long shifter knob on there, you will find it much easier. Take a while to get used to the lowered seat but, it makes it so nice.

It comes with time an experience

You don’t need to rev like that. Just rev while lightly goin for the gear on the down shifts. It will slide in when the revs match. Also you shouldn’t even need the clutch to shift. Just match the revs. As the revs come down, it will slip into gear🤘🏼

This is so cool. Your grandfather would be so proud of you. I'm sure he would have gotten a thrill out of riding with you.

Hi Ross, loved watching this video. Bob Smith

Very cool bus

Dude I’m not kidding I actually did happened to see your old bus today and just looking at it and seeing it rn in this video I believe that was the one and honestly only if u don’t mind I did a drive by film, but seriously thats a fkg nice old ride there

Oh my gosh the bus is my thing man!!! Love the bus. I am totally blind and a business owner. I have a thing about buses. That is my mode of transportation. Yes. I love trains but there is something about the bus that is just so awesome. I was going to say just hearing all this is really amazing and the buses from yesterday year were very difficult. Those were the days when the bus driver had to practically hug the wheel. And I have heard that driving these monsters is very difficult. Just like cars back in the day. Even a car was very difficult to drive. I really marvel at this just the way you are operating this beast is something else man. I could feel it. It definitely sounds complicated. Things that the modern day buses don’t need to worry about. Still having to bee careful in a huge bus today hahaha. But the steering wheel is smaller and there is power steering in the wheel these days to make it much easier to turn not like back then. There is something about buses that I really am attracted to. I had an hour and a half to preschool and an hour and a half back so I guess you could see why I love the bus. And not to mention that was my first bus ride. Both ways an hour and a half their to school and hour and a half years ago. Then of course as I got older riding buses to school of course bussing to school was not that long and now as an adult a business owner I still take buses to this day. My commutes can bee from short to over 3 and a half hours long depending where I am working. Even in my daily activities buses are a part of my day. It is something so mundane that we all do we don’t even think about it but the bus is a very important part of our day. Cause that is what moves me around the city and not just me others as well. Pretty awesome for your first time sounds like driving this monster. I am always in awe of those who drive even the modern day bus like what we ride today. It takes a certain person to drive a bus you have to have the personality for this and the attitude for this. Not everyone can do that.❤😂

Doing quite well considering no experience, Dont need the clutch, Listen to the motor and you will know when to shift

My father didn’t drive his 4104 like that!! Yes you do need to downshift for stopping but he double clutched for everything!!