Cuz you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit, HS holds it down… you got nothing in the air waves! Mormons limit Jesus’ frequency range cuz they don’t believe fully. “Though there is a complete mutual indwelling of the Father and the Son, the Father and the Son remain distinct persons within the Trinity, as does the Holy Spirit (Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14), and the three of them still constitute only one Being in three persons.”

Mormons: Faith trump facts. That's the message I keep getting over and over. I'm out.

They were not men of God but as cruel as the people that had prsecuted them.

The arrogance of we Christians is appalling!

I was married for 42 years. We are married forever but. … Marriage is not the goal, love affection, care for each other, desire, that feeling of security, comfort and wholeness. That is the goal. That comes first and the marriage follows after. So it is obvious that marriage is not something to be attained, not a gospel principle to be ticked off. “Let us not to the marriage of true souls admit impediment”. Marriage is the culmination of the blessing of love, not the beginning of it. We shall all receive our partner, if not in this section of eternity, in the next so “pray always and be believing”. Enrich this life, enjoy this life, don’t turn it into a waiting for that which may not happen. Your star may be elsewhere and your time be out of time itself and within eternity. Fear not and be believing. All things will truly work together for our good.

This is a truth, be who you are believing in you, love yourself!!! Continue to grow and love Our faith. If you are honest.... open.. you will not fear rhe approaching the relationship when it is entering the first meeting or conversation. Some people when I first meet them weather they are educated or just a beautiful person have a lot going for them fear creeps in the fear of man I really want this and I don't want to blow it. So I have found to be genuine and not pressing because I do not feel what they are feeling at that moment. Other times I meet or talk on the phone like I have know this person for years but then we are so busy that there is not enough time to culture the relationship.

Wait, be open, truthful, willing to not judge each other in a relationship. We all have our faults that's ok we help each other up. Take your time sometimes you will feel that there are a soul connection and times you need to give it time. For me I lost a soul mate in the get of the relationship then Covid walked in the door Poof life change. I have a hard time searching for a soul connection. Best friend relationship that blooms into something else and so I want that. Some people want to take ownership of others noooo. It's continuous growth with each other. Singleness wards are wierd maybe a larger ward boundaries. Yrs ago a friend divorced went to single ward 30 up and he said that he was shocked of the looseness of the date or relationship now it could have been in just that region but if that is the case it's the wrong mindset. Not a lot of people I feel look deeply into the honesty put in on the table and then learn from each other and be totally open. Ok new approach!! How about Singles Temples, or single sessions and a separate area to set converse. I could go on... would like to meet These to because they are real out of the box but genuine.

just so joyful!!! love love love this! and the trumpet...are you kidding??? <3

Becomes friends

Im widowed and at the point to creat a place were we can live all together. I found that a lot of people do not find the time to share yourself with others without trying to find a partner. I'm open and can talk about anything when I approach I feel that they feel I'm hitting on them.

In my 20’s I rented a room in college from an amazing woman that became one of my favorite people ever. She was 10+ years older than me had so much life experience and was an amazing friend and fantastic landlord and roommate. Many years later she did get married to an amazing man. I’m so grateful for all that she taught me and for our friendship. I don’t know what I would have done without her in that time if my life. I think everyone’s experience is important no matter if it fits a typical mold or not.

Most are single because they are unrealistic and don't want to live in reality. Looking for that perfect person or situation.

Love this conversation, especially 13:00-15:00. As Goethe famously stated, "A man who does not know a foreign language is ignorant of his own." And yet, there is also something so special about your native language. Even converts to and from other faiths hold so much knowledge and tradition from their first faith that they benefit from drawing upon.

Only certain areas have single's wards, either YSA or mid or older singles. Only Utah, as far as I know, has all of those. In other parts of the US, and internationally, YSA wards aren't common. Even in Arizona, where there's a significant LDS population, it's mostly just YSA wards with occasional activities and conferences for the older groups. When we lived in a branch in Missouri, there were lovely and strong single sisters whom we loved and who loved us, meaning the whole branch family. They held leadership callings, they did a lot for us. In a branch, you need every active member, and you're always reaching out to the less active ones. I felt like our branch was very close-knit, with people of all ages, genders, and marital statuses. But I can also see like moving out there might have felt like closing the door to any possibility of meeting a potential partner. Which is fine, if that's where God led them. Certainly I never asked about it. But I love that Diana points out that her directon from God has NOT been toward marriage, at least not up until now. I have noticed that currently, Sister Yee of the RS General Presidency is single. I don't believe she has ever been married. Wendy Watson Nelson was single well into her sixth decade, when she married President Nelson. There have been multiple RS Presidents, presidencies, and General Board members who have never been married or been divorced or widowed. I think perhaps the Lord needs them to serve in the capacity they are in, and part of that is being single, at least at that point in time. While we certainly don't believe that being single is a higher, holier calling than being married, we certainly do believe that if you seek the Lord's direction, you will will be guided to the most holy callings that he needs you to magnify, either formally or informally.

Such good information, thoughts and spirit. Every Bishopric and RS presidency needs to listen to this.

I love Mallory's comment about coming to a place of balance between being happy and complete single, but not closing yourself off to the blessings of sealing in this life either. Nor to other reasons for a happy partnership. I love also her comment that it's not just the doctrine of the Church that teaches us that we should marry, but also biology. We're wired to continue our species--meaning we have physical desire. We're wired to be social creatures, too. The vast majority of people marry (or partner), no matter their faith. Mentally, spiritually, physically, emotionally, and socially, human beings are set up to pair off. And when we don't, or if our pairing ends, it's hard. I love that we can ask about adventures or the news in someone's life, rather than "are you dating anyone?" or "Oh, I can't ask about their romantic life, because they're too old, that would be insensitive" as if being single was a terminal disease.

I'm a 36-year-old man, and I've never felt that marriage should be my number one priority. It's been kind of strange, because while I accept the doctrine of the church that marriage is, ultimately, a pinnacle experience, it has always been kind of like Diana described in the interview: I feel God saying that it is not the thing I should be focusing on currently. If you were to ask me things that I am the most excited about, I could tell you several ways that I hope to serve and contribute to the world, but "marriage" as a generalized concept wouldn't be one of them. I get excited about certain people that I could potentially marry: there have been women that I have tried to pursue and been very excited about and attracted to. But it feels like the excitement is only for those particular people, and not for the general idea of marriage as a goal (don't know if that makes sense -- more opportunistic than general). I get much more excited about other ways to contribute in a general goal-oriented sense, and feel spiritually called to them in a way I don't feel about marriage. In saying all this, I'm not trying to say that this experience is a superior one, just a different one.

You mean we shouldn't cherry pick like Dan does, who would have thought.

I believe in Christ and Jehovah God. I still drink my black coffee and black tea. A moderate amount of polyphenol is good for me.

I live in a region where there are not a lot of members of the church. My biggest pet peeve is when visiting general authourities come in and say something like "all my kids served missions, and have married in the temple". I'm like "cool" glad for you, but I'm not gonna get that.

I enjoyed this so very much. It helped me to sort out my feelings as God wants me to, in a loving , kind way. Thanks so much to Michael Wilcox, and both of you!!

But here is the one major thing left out of this conversation; Young’s declaration that he had received God’s approval and blessing for this act. The lds clearly continue to support, uphold and revere a man who lied and bore false witness of God. It is not enough to acknowledge this atrocity, true repentance can only come with a rejection of the actions, teachings and practices of BY. Why? Because there is no record of BY’s repentance, only the scapegoating of the Native Americans and some lower level lds flunkies.

This was just shared via email to our RS. Kudos to our ward RS presidency!

But the lds still hold in high regard the “prophet” that approved of and was ultimately responsible for the heinous act. Not only that, but claimed that God gave His blessing. Being aware of this atrocity is not enough, the lds should reject BY as a prophet and reject him.

I grew up in the school of certainty. Certain perspectives and interpretations were taught as absolutes that couldn't be questioned. Part of my growth has been comong to know God as being so much bigger than the box I grew up in. I still believe in absolutes but I have the freedom to not know all of them and to change my understanding. Its freeing and gives me opportinity to rest in the grace of my Father. I dont believe His goal for me is to "get it right" but to seek relationship with Him.

It's true, there are little places of happiness all through the day! What a wonderful conversation! Thank God for good souls!

I appreciate you sharing this with us. However, I think you went too far in suggesting that we do not put prophets on pedestals. If the children of Israel didn't put Moses on a pedestal, they never would have followed him across the sea. Many people in Noah's day did not give him heed and were drowned instead of getting on the ark. We need to see our prophet today in the same sense. This has started a huge problem online with members saying that the prophet and apostles aren't always right and having a attitude of doubt towards them. And yes, children should still be singing, "Follow the prophet, don't go astray". I have been going through very extreme Job-like trials and President Nelson's book and his teachings have made a huge difference in my life and have literally lifted me to a much better place. Please don't damage people's trust in the Lord's prophets and apostles. I know they are very careful in what they tell us.

McConkie was a rigid person. He did not "stretch the Heavens " in his mind and spirit.

Thank You! Cleared a lot of things out of my mind.

Genuine burning desire from her is key. "Dread game" is so important for the marriage to succeed. The Red Pill covers this stuff.

Look at the Bible dictionary definition of repentance "The Greek word of which this is the translation denotes a change of mind, a fresh view about God, about oneself, and about the world."

I love her.

I thank God for our brother Brandon flowers, such a gent

I am on page 22 of his book right now. I loved your video today. It will help me a lot to internalize what the Lord desires for me.

I think what cuts through all of this conversation is the law of witnesses and keys of authority. We do ourselves a disservice when we focus too much on what was said by those in the past. That shouldn't be taken as a blanket statement, but our emphasis of following truth is best enhanced by following the Lord's prophet for our day. Also, The conversation on conscience v authority seems to be a slippery slope. I think my generation of the church is over correcting to the side of conscience. Matthew 24 spoke to this as well as Isaiah 30:10. Regardless it is an interesting conversation.

Wow. This should be required listening for all Seminary teachers. I thought Clayton Christiansen's book made us re-think missionary work. This hits me as having the same impact of knowing where this generation of youth is coming from and how to approach them. It is quite critical, I think.

Love Michael Wilcox, his words, thoughts, and wisdom.

Adam has such a clear understanding of how futile it is for us to try to adjust God's perfect plan to accommodate the natural man. I thought about The Standard of Truth throughout this podcast! Loved it!!

yes dear lady. this is not my god either. nor did my God form my nature to be the enemy of God. nor did the Son of my God take part in the barbaric beheading of Labon. this i choose not to believe before God and these whitnesses

That was so good, thanks for sharing.

Very insightful

THE FACTS: It was a military operation of the Iron County Militia, a regularly constituted military division of the State of Deseret. The Mormons had left the US when they came west into Utah, unincorporated Mexican territory. They set up their own government, printed money and declared themselves independent of the federal government. With the end of the Mexican War in 1848, western lands were ceded to the US as part of that treaty. In effect, the US government followed the Mormons out to Utah. When the feds tried to impose federal authority in Utah, the State of Deseret didn't take too kindly to it. The officers that had been sent to "govern" Utah were sent packing back to Washington. The Mormons had had enough of the "constitutional" treatment afforded them in Missouri and Illinois that ended in the murder of Joseph Smith and his brother. They were in no mood to be governed by the same people who had driven and killed them. As a result of the wild tales of rebellion, President Buchanan dispatched fully 1/3 of the US military to Utah to "quash the Mormon rebellion" in 1857. Brigham Young declared martial law in the territory and the Mormons were preparing for a military assault on their community. This was the climate into which the Fancher wagon train rolled. The Mormons wouldn't trade with them because they were preparing for war. They were frustrated and threatened to go into San Bernardino and bring the troops up the southern flank of the Mormons while the army units attacked from the north. I'm no military genius but you can't have a two-front war. The wagon train was unfortunately in the middle of a conflict they couldn't control and lost their lives. As a military matter, it worked perfectly. None of those people made it to the military outpost at San Bernardino. Innocents die in war all the time. War is hell. Tragedy but understandable. The winners of war usually get to write the history and so they call this encounter a "massacre". If Washington had lost the Revolutionary War, he would have been hung as a traitor and his skirmishes would have been called "massacres"...see how it works?

Great podcast!

Her approach to Christianity is heartfelt and accessible --- certainly something sorely needed in our fractured, modern world. Gives me hope in our faith's ability to endure.

This is amazing

This is beautiful!

Yes! That is super interesting. It did cross over from the 60s etc. I wear a cross and go to the temple. I just went to the Hawaii temple [visited from Utah] and one of the workers said she loved my rosary and collects them and all crosses. Like i love Jesus you love Jesus, let's talk lol. I have tattoos so people automatically think i am not lds

Incredible conversation. My heart can't help but to feel pierced by the idea of 'stay in your faith of origin' because it strikes me as a thing straight people can say, because they are allowed to stay and still have a partner. They are allowed to stay and still be who they are. And so I want the nuance of that -- I want the nuance of the reality of the inability ot stay for people outright not permitted to stay. And I say all of that with like such deep respect for this work, and a deep sadness that my faith of origin does not feel like an actual option for me -- despite it being the very essence of my ancestral body and spirit.

I enjoyed this.

Finally!! There is a conversation about women in the church!! Seriously don't stop! Please, please, have more conversations like this!!! More than half of the women in the church are single and it seems that the church doesn't understand or care about them. Amen to the comment made that the church doesn't allow women to act on their faith!