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@lessroffensive3139
@lessroffensive3139 4 күн бұрын
You keep showing me the dam Couch and rug i not following the series and I don’t really remember the older ones but I don’t really see the point he is trying to make here …. That the background doesn’t feel as natural? And no I didn’t watch the whole video because the couch bored me 😅 But getting back to topic just like any let’s say “remastered “ it’s not your typical remaster comparing the two as such … Just like the old dbz the computer generated animation was far lacking compared to the old hand draw animation I mean nowadays it’s crisper ,sharper more vibrant colours, reall it’s more appealing to the eye And it’s probably just nolstagia that makes us feel like the older animation (objectively worse) is better ,when it’s probably not the case at all And the same applies here most new viewers would most likely prefer the more digitalised crisp version Like I said objectively without any bias. One is a superior animation….. It’s sad to see handdraw animation fade out especially being a 90s kid and it being most of my early years watching tv It’s just not realistic for them to handraw animation anymore And why would they when it really only appeals to us older generations
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard you say! You SHOULDN'T give up on your faith in Disney so easily! I didn't lose faith in Disney because I 100% believe that they CAN save themselves! And if that doesn't work, then I'm going to make it work by helping them change for the better! It's very foolish of you to just give up when there's still hope for Disney! Don't lose faith in Disney! It's too early for that! We're going to abolish the woke agenda and bring creativity and imagination back to Disney! That's a promise!
@Princess_of_cute
@Princess_of_cute 17 күн бұрын
After all these years Donald is a character, and he gets the bucket tool background.
@danwilliams1989
@danwilliams1989 18 күн бұрын
I didn’t think the short was that bad.
@crazedcatlady867
@crazedcatlady867 18 күн бұрын
I miss classic 2d. Disney has betrayed its fans
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢WRONG!!! Iger betrayed everyone, NOT Disney! Disney HASN'T betrayed its fans at all! Disney is still loyal to its fans, but it is under Iger's woke yoke. But that's all changing! I'm breaking the woke yoke from Disney and liberating it from Iger's tyranny! Iger will be gone and replaced by a more reliable CEO! Classic 2d animation will return to Disney! I'm making sure that it will!
@wah--
@wah-- 20 күн бұрын
The sad thing is you can tell just how much they needed to compensate for all the bullshit they've put out by how rushed the animation looks. Donald's facial and physical expressions were good, but they sat there and rushed the background and settings art simply to appease the audiences for calling them out. It's as though they thought a rushed 3 minute short with stale animation and dull grounds would make up for all the lazy 3D garbage they've been putting out and we'd just accept it. Disney is not what it used to be; they stopped caring about making stories, stopped caring about making art, and stopped caring about us.
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢Will you stop your asinine nonsense?! Disney IS STILL what it used to be! Disney WILL start caring about everything! I'm going to make that happen, so shut your mouth and watch! Disney is going to change for the better, and I'm going to be responsible for the positive changes there! No joke about that!
@4n0r15
@4n0r15 21 күн бұрын
Disney should hire you as a background artist instead. I know you only put that drawing time-lapse into the video in order to have something to look at while listening to what you're saying, but your sketch-like style suits Disney's shorts better than the current minimalist and effortless aesthetic they're going for. I mean, in general, I have no problems with that art style, but it doesn't match Donald Duck's more expressive animations, which makes it feel out of place.
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks 21 күн бұрын
@@4n0r15 awww thank you ❤
@schaferent.
@schaferent. 23 күн бұрын
I made a video recently talking about how I miss theatrical releases of 2D animated films. This Donald Clip looks cheap as hell. Looks like they barely tried.
@TeamReArise
@TeamReArise 23 күн бұрын
It really saddening to this what Disney has become, I grew up watching the older shorts and I was amazed the amount of details and effort it toke to make a short. The background feels too simple and hardly has any details almost like it was made at the last minute , the only thing carrying the short is Donald but from what I heard their just reusing his voice which takes away a short’s originality. Disney had truly lost its magic .
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢What kind of asinine talk is that?! Disney has NOT truly lost its magic!!! NOT at all! Disney is going to change for the better, and me and my friends are going to make it so! I've got a TON of fresh, creative ideas that will help Disney get better! Artistic creativity will return to Disney! I've got Disney's magic in me, and I'm bringing it back! Disney has NOT truly lost it at all!
@tomperkins4965
@tomperkins4965 24 күн бұрын
rest in peace Disney studio & parks anytime soon
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢SHUT UP!!! How DARE you say such asinine words! Disney Studios and Parks are NOT resting in peace anytime soon! You hear me?! THEY'RE NOT!!! Disney is going to change for the better, and me and my friends are going to help it by abolishing the woke agenda and bring creativity and imagination back! This is NO joke at all! I don' ever want to hear such pessimistic claptrap for you ever again! So zip our lip and let us work our magic to help Disney get better!
@spongeboi2021
@spongeboi2021 24 күн бұрын
is the backgrounds literally the only thing that makes this short "disappointing"
@nazarenoperez4092
@nazarenoperez4092 25 күн бұрын
That recent Donald Duck short was fine, the problem was the backgrounds who felt basic.
@mmitchellhouston
@mmitchellhouston 25 күн бұрын
I will NEVER be a Disney Apologist. But honestly, if you cannot celebrate ANY improvement in their quality, then you're no longer a voice worth listening to.
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks 25 күн бұрын
@@mmitchellhouston where I the improvement here?
@buccaneercat
@buccaneercat 25 күн бұрын
This was my thought exactly while watching it. The moment I saw how flat it was, my excitement sank instantly. They clearly don’t have anymore artists who understand the beauty of the original cartoons from the (late) 1920s - (early) 1960s. Back then they had thick shading, visible sketch/linework, saturated colors, palpable depth, clutter/life (meaning the spaces felt lived in by more than our lead characters), and most importantly: a passionate artist’s vision for an engaging location the cartoon takes place in. The new cartoon (while I still appreciate the… effort…) was extremely flat, empty… almost dead… and it felt like something made on Microsoft paint. Extremely disappointing… Especially because I grew up wanting more than anything to be hired by Disney, to work on more cartoons and animated movies that harkened back to the spirit and energy of the original Disney aesthetic. But through the years they’ve abandoned their 2D animated roots, and now require computer animation skills for 97% of their projects… it really shows just how many passionate 2D animators they have left… which clearly isn’t many..
@tomboyjessie1352
@tomboyjessie1352 29 күн бұрын
Yeesh, that's the blandest backgrounds I've seen in a long time, even the cartoons from "Mickey Mouse Works" and "The House of Mouse" does a better job with them. 🤢🤮
@AbdulRaheem-fk8ru
@AbdulRaheem-fk8ru 29 күн бұрын
It’s sad to see that they kinda lost their roots
@chelseacombz9118
@chelseacombz9118 Ай бұрын
i love this
@JackFruitB.
@JackFruitB. Ай бұрын
Mind you SpongeBob has literally hand painted their backgrounds for 25 years. If Nickelodeon can do it so can they
@SolarFarle
@SolarFarle Ай бұрын
The short itself felt like a sub-par test animation of Mickey Mouse Works.
@HaBeFaStro
@HaBeFaStro Ай бұрын
Just when ya think Disney couldn’t set the bar any lower… And with as much money as they have… or perhaps had…
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢Will you STOP that?! Disney is NOT setting the bar any lower because I'm going to help them change for the better! I'm serious! Disney' bar will rise up with my creative help.
@KrankyKartoons
@KrankyKartoons Ай бұрын
I do agree with your points but overall I really did enjoy the short and thought Disney still kept the same charm they did in the early years. (That’s just my personal opinion)
@Raven9010th
@Raven9010th Ай бұрын
Disney devolved because of new management, political correctness and budget cuts. Walt would turn in his grave if he could see what's become of his legacy. Old 2D animators were layed off when computers started stepping in to do the animation. Sure, Disney has made some good stuff still, like the short Mickey cartoons and some of the new Ducktales episodes. But overall I'd say the quality took a nose dive somewhere after 2000. The last good movie Disney released was The Princess and The Frog. A movie I still haven't seen, because I'm saving it for a rainy day. I'd love however to see them return to their original art styles, like how they animated Quack Pack, Darkwing Duck, Tailspin and so on. Those were the days.
@Preteristboy
@Preteristboy Ай бұрын
Oddly enough, the "How NOT to Draw Donald Duck" short had more effort put into it, and the background was just real world objects.
@Jacob630
@Jacob630 Ай бұрын
Who let Augustus gloop cook 💀
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks Ай бұрын
I'm sorry what?
@mickmons3267
@mickmons3267 Ай бұрын
dear baby child, those are 1930's and 1940's shorts. xD " 80's " hahaha, forgive me. I totally agree with your statement; it dropped the ball.
@spamonger3105
@spamonger3105 Ай бұрын
I also think the exaggeration was lacking. Nothing had that real animated feel cuz everything felt real in how he moved, not cartoony
@ryanjones358
@ryanjones358 Ай бұрын
I'm just glad it was pure entertainment and wasn't trying to push any woke politics.
@ReviveGuyv
@ReviveGuyv Ай бұрын
Graphic design seems to be more style than substance. Those flat colors were likely meant to look neat, rather than organic. I mean, have you seen modern logos?
@AKASunWukong
@AKASunWukong Ай бұрын
Classic cartoons mainly had extremely detailed background with lots of shades and decorations, like this 2:13 . And the only things that werent like this were usually items the character’s would Pick up or interact with (sometimes it would be details dead just pop into being on the same level of detail as the Character like some freaky friday dimension hopping.) i Think the only reason they didnt do this was because it was too much work for something they deemed not worthy. 2:30 here i Think it looks a Big better, a lot of stuff is shaded and sorta detailed, but the Walls, sky, and grass just look bland and like flat color despite there being no reason for it. I dont Think its completely on model with original Donald duck, but im not even gonna go there. I dont wanna be one of those guys that cry about things not being perfectly on model and contribute to puppet animation. Im honestly shocked they didnt puppet this though, it seems like a very Disney thing to do. I think they did pretty good on his animation anyways, but he was probably the main thing in the budget. They kinda dug Their own Hole here. By making an animation to honor Their classic animations they just show how much they’ve regressed in actually animating. I Think at the time of the classics (like snow White and the classic shorts), the workplace was apperantly like a family and had parties and had an actual culture. Now Disney is a giant Corporation who only cares about budgets, what sells best, looking good, and deadlines. Simply because they just Got too Big.
@kootunesscrewy
@kootunesscrewy Ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with the new cartoon, tho. I kinda enjoy it. But I'll admit, it's a downgrade from the Paul Rudish Mickey stuff. I wish this was made by Rudish, tbh.
@Antonwalnuts
@Antonwalnuts Ай бұрын
unrelated but you sound *very* danish
@KodokunaSenshi
@KodokunaSenshi Ай бұрын
He looks so out of place
@giuliasole9878
@giuliasole9878 Ай бұрын
I think a new short dedicated to Donald Duck hasn't happened since the 1950s. I liked Donald's animation, but at the same time I didn't like the backgrounds and everything else at all. So bland, flat, stilted, expressionless. Quite disappointing. I didn't want to say anything about it because I didn't want to sound like a person who is always complaining about Disney.
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks Ай бұрын
If disney was a small indie company then I would put them up to these high standards but when it's a huge company that is known for revolutionizing 2d animation then they nerd to be critiqued when they don't deliver the quality that they're known for and is capable of doing. It's sad that an indie animator can deliver more quality than Disney at this point
@giuliasole9878
@giuliasole9878 Ай бұрын
@@ellensartworks That's right, Disney was at the top of the food chain for in the 2D animation era; now you see easily indie doing better work than Disney. Yet, the Disney short film about the raccoon a few years ago I really liked. I would have liked to see a whole film made that way but it never happened.
@kootunesscrewy
@kootunesscrewy Ай бұрын
Tbh, the backgrounds aren't that bad. They are pretty well made and abstracty. But I think they fit way better for a more "UPA"-esque cartoon like Dexter's Laboratory or Animatic Battle (yes, the latter is indie animation). Even the Rudish Mickey stuff fits that background style too.
@diazbrothersyoutube
@diazbrothersyoutube Ай бұрын
I don't hate the simplistic backgrounds themselves. What bothers me is that anything animated has an outline while everything else doesn't. It just doesn't look right with the minimal background detail. It was more disappointing than anything really bad, though it is nice to see something hand-drawn come from modern-day Disney, even if the full thing is 2 minutes long while most "Golden Age" animated shorts are around 7.
@LyricJCartoons
@LyricJCartoons Ай бұрын
Any attempt to praise How to Hook Up Your Home Theater I'll take, but this short is fine enough. Claiming it's a "classic" Donald short is a bit of an exaggeration, though. It's definitely more Mouseworks levels. Which isn't bad (especially considering Disney doesn't want to mention Mouseworks ever again... PLEASE I'M BEGGING), but there's some dissonance. With the music and Don's voice being from archive sources, it sort of clashes with the clean digital look and sound effects. But I guess stuff like this, those three Goofy quarantine shorts and Mickey in a Minute are mostly just to keep the, like, three 2D animators they still have from leaving.
@Phone_20
@Phone_20 Ай бұрын
It because ALL the animation of 90s was made by hand and this short was made with digital utilization, in agreement of Disney’s production. For example, the background, like you mention, was made with digital colors and, in the 90s, was made with watercolor, giving more texture and tonality. That because I’m prefere Cuphead (the game) 👍
@Alan-vy5ih
@Alan-vy5ih Ай бұрын
Digital can look It's because they cheaped out on the animation when compared to indie animation
@resistancepublishing
@resistancepublishing Ай бұрын
Disney is going cheap by cutting corners on everything in the company
@TheRealArtDoctor
@TheRealArtDoctor Ай бұрын
Unpaid interns happened.
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks Ай бұрын
That's that worst thing thar the animation/film industry created. I hate the concept of having to prove yourself worthy of working at a company. Like either you hire me or not and if I don't live up to you standards after a few months, then Fire me
@Lawg202
@Lawg202 Ай бұрын
I could buy the minimalist backgrounds being an intentional stylistic choice but that cut off cloud is just unforgivable
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks Ай бұрын
Right! Don't tell me they dud it on purpose. It was very clearly a mistake
@invisibledoodlewizard
@invisibledoodlewizard Ай бұрын
It reminds me of the backgrounds from some of the 90s shorts. Which had a lot of issues like that. They also aren’t as well remembered because of the lack of quality. Apparently Disney is going for that era to try to persuade us to hate 2D so they don’t have to waste money on it anymore
@kootunesscrewy
@kootunesscrewy Ай бұрын
I think they were kinda different tho, because they at least tried to capture the Maurice Noble/Hawley Pratt style. Ren and Stimpy matched the style well in the Rough Draft and Carbunkle episodes.
@akm2219
@akm2219 Ай бұрын
It honestly looked more like a tech demo or a proof of concept rather than an actual classic Disney short. They also did a couple for Goofy a few years back, and I remember thinking they were fine... but I also remember thinking "Couldn't you just have done a proper 7 minute short, instead of this set of shorts that's just a couple of minutes each?". It's a bit of a shame that aside from "Get a horse" and "How to hook up your home theater" the last time Disney did shorts like this, and seemed to put afford into, was Mouse Works/House of Mouse. And that's very close to be 25 years old. At least we have Paul Ruddish's Mickey from the 2010s, which does more of its own thing, but it does fulfill its intent better as a successor to the classic Disney shorts.
@destroyerofyorks
@destroyerofyorks Ай бұрын
I thought the backgrounds looked really poorly done, especially in comparison to the beautiful backgrounds in older disney shorts. But the animation on Donald was pretty smooth, so at least there's that. Not upset at the animator, though, I'm upset at Disney for their disregard for traditional animation. Feels like they're practically dangling 2D in front of us. They can do classic stuff but they just...choose not to.
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks Ай бұрын
Money is your answer, the people that run disney nowadays are not passionate about animation. They're passionate about money and that's why we're getting mufasa in that "live action" look...like I'm actually interested in the story but I hate that they didn't do it in some other style. Just imagine if we got that in the same 2d animation as the first lion king 🤯
@destroyerofyorks
@destroyerofyorks Ай бұрын
@@ellensartworks I feel that so much! I love Lion King and would love to see Mufasa's backstory, but in the universe of the original, not the stupid remake. Animation has come so far, a Lion King prequel about Mufasa in traditional animation would be so beautiful, so golden, yet they refuse to even give us that. Passion has left the entertainment industry in general it seems, but it has especially for animation, at least here in the west :((
@user-jk9iu8nj7t
@user-jk9iu8nj7t Ай бұрын
Ngl the animation is really good but the background artist did them really dirty
@Bismuguy
@Bismuguy Ай бұрын
When i saw this short released i just knew it was going to be the tipping point for someone's likeness of disney
@e-122psi3
@e-122psi3 Ай бұрын
The animation is decent but it's not top notch. It's on par with a good House of Mouse episode. It's fine so long as they aren't pitching this like some special A-star project like Once Upon A Studio, heck if we got some more of these, I'd be all for it. It was fun to hear Clarence Nash as Donald I must admit. The archive footage treatment definitely works better with him that it did Mickey in Get A Horse. Same for the music, I find it a shame no composer ever nailed that old style with these nostalgia projects, always going for jazzy stuff. Minor detail, but I do LOVE that bit when Donald realises he installed the window the wrong way up. We rarely see them do a subtle slow paced reaction gag like that in a callback short, they always try to do more Looney Tunes than classic Disney.
@Alan-vy5ih
@Alan-vy5ih Ай бұрын
It's because the music genre was swing music
@BillCipherReality
@BillCipherReality Ай бұрын
They want us to not like it so they can say “okay so we should do cgi animation instead then, right?”
@ellensartworks
@ellensartworks Ай бұрын
Haha true!
@lukefortune8314
@lukefortune8314 25 күн бұрын
maybe. it's not that 3d animation is bad it's just often lazily done. also no offense but the technical scope of 3d animation is ridiculous when compared to 2d animation. it takes far more time to set up a good-looking scene in 3d than in 2d, and even the best tools are deeply confusing to learn. defining an artstyle for a 3d work is extremely challenging because most software focuses on realism over artistic control. in the case shown here, the donald duck short having NO detailed backgrounds is inexcusable. the classic backgrounds were painted over a week by 2 or 3 people. disney should be able to get it done in a day with that much money and talented people.
@trerchry
@trerchry 25 күн бұрын
Ehhh, they’ll think twice after seeing the 3D animation that was _Wish_ 💀
@BillCipherReality
@BillCipherReality 24 күн бұрын
@@trerchry in this context “they” refers to Disney .. but if you mean how Wish turned up (and not AMAZINGLY, as far as I know) then I guess I see your point
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢WRONG!!! That's NOT it at all! What asinine reasoning!
@calebc.2290
@calebc.2290 Ай бұрын
not only did it look like a cheep flash cartoon, but the audio suck. it was so inconsistent, they used donald’s original voice actor and some original music and sound effects, but what bugged me was that they also used modern sound effects in it as well to and didn’t think to put a stereo filter over it so it’s just inconsistent, once you notice this stuff the short feels like a fan made video with a cheap budget.
@AnimalsandPlanesSpotterAdven
@AnimalsandPlanesSpotterAdven Ай бұрын
That background looks a lot like 2000s House of mouse and it doesn’t look a lot like the 40s version
@jam9852
@jam9852 Ай бұрын
Cheap and laziness that's all this is & is all Disney is now as well.
@humbleebumblee
@humbleebumblee Ай бұрын
it''s like Disney is entering it's cheap 80's saturday morning cartoon phase lol
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 8 күн бұрын
😡💢💢Watch it! It's NOT something to laugh about, pal. This is NO laughing matter at all!