I've been going up to Alpine tunnel/Williams Pass since the early 60's. This is great, restoring one of the most remarkable railroad landmarks in Colorado. And, we have access to Williams pass once again! Thank you Markus and CORE and all the 4wheel drive community that worked for this!
@tomfarnsworth9502 сағат бұрын
In the 1950's my dad took me to both the east and west portal of the Alpine Tunnel. It had not fully collapsed back then and we walked in a few hundred feet on each end. It was kind of creepy though for a 10 year old kid. I don't think I have ever been back, but I've explored many of the trails and 4WD roads in the area over the years. Great video!
@kevingovro20 сағат бұрын
Amazing! Great work over the years many people will be able to enjoy those areas for years in the future now.
@keeptrailsopen10 сағат бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@timaugustine38562 күн бұрын
Thank you for all you do to keep trails open!
@keeptrailsopen2 күн бұрын
For sure! Thanks for watching.
@danh.55373 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video and all that you and Core do to keep these trails open.
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MKAK473 күн бұрын
This is an historic milestone for our future, thank you for the detailed walk about Marcus. As for Onx, I blame the creators that are shilling it to new offroaders, it's inaccurate regurgitated garbage and should be treated as such.
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
For sure. Thanks for watching!
@cmcer19953 күн бұрын
Your people did an awesome job removing the abandoned camper trailer, glad it is gone. People need to be held accountable for the trash they discard. I am glad that the tunnel project is proceeding well and that they decided to rebuild the road to the W. side. CORE has been essential to maintaining these 4x4 trails around Chaffee County and more with a lot of hands-on trail maintenance and repairs by mostly volunteers. Without them many trails would be closed. But with responsible use of the trails, by everyone who appreciate being able to visit these mountain areas we will continue to be able to use them without closures via government agencies trying to protect public lands. Tread Lightly and leave these areas better than what you found them even if someone else did not respect this Privilege.
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
Well said. Thanks for watching.
@tommiller71773 күн бұрын
You earned a subscriber with trail advice. When in doubt, get out and walk it. And your work on dry stack stone walls is amazing. Thanks for updates on alpine tunnel. Now if you guys could work on the 285/50 intersection in poncha... .well, thanks for what you do.
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and for supporting the channel.
@danharris58733 күн бұрын
Glad to know my ohv sticker money has been put to good use I've been buying them since 1998
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
Totally agree. We hope to publicize more projects in the future made possible with OHV dollars.
@danharris58733 күн бұрын
We appreciate the efforts from everybody to get this wonderful historic area put back together! Maybe it'll last another 150 years LOL❤
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TomCrosman3 күн бұрын
Didn't know it was being rebuilt. Have been there a number of times. Thanks for the info.
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
For sure. Hopefully the whole area will be open again soon.
@danielforster7193 күн бұрын
Thanks for all your efforts, Marcus!
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
For sure. Thanks for watching!
@bradpennington47783 күн бұрын
Congratulations on project well done!!
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@romedog56483 күн бұрын
if i was younger man with a stronger back i'd love to be out there helping.
@keeptrailsopenКүн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@chaunceypennington89953 күн бұрын
Thank you for the efforts to keep the trails open in this area. Huge milestones
@keeptrailsopen3 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ColoradoAdventureClub8 күн бұрын
What’s the break point of a road being closed indefinitely vs getting maintained?
@keeptrailsopen8 күн бұрын
It's on the road maintenance list to have some of the low places brought up so the road is not underwater as long as it is now during high snow years. But really, things would be fine if people would just quit driving off the road into the lake. The water is less than 6" deep with water in just a few spots, the road is clearly visible and a vehicle had to be towed out again this week... The public just can't make a good decision. It's a high traffic route between two ghost towns (just an expression, people liver there) so it would be impossible to close it permanatly.
@TUCOtheratt10 күн бұрын
You can not kiss enough government a$$ to get them to do the right thing.The government has one priority in all of it's endeavors. The priority is to protect and expand it's own power. That's it. Once you understand this everything becomes clear.
@keeptrailsopen9 күн бұрын
You are spot on, with your assessment. This was never an objective process to find meaningful conclusions.
@waynesmith254914 күн бұрын
Is it possiable to start in St.Elmo go over Hancock, curve down close to Pitkin , up Cumberland pass to Tincup, cross mirror back to St Elmo ? We are renting a jeep in Salida in 2 weeks
@keeptrailsopen14 күн бұрын
The route you described is called Miner's Loop. Unfortunately, due to the West Alpine Tunnel Grade closure, you can NOT go directly from the bottom of Hancock Pass to Pitkin. You would need to make a much larger loop requiring you to go over Tomichi Pass (not advised for beginners) after completing Hancock, then over Black Sage Pass and Waunita Pass to get to Pitken, and then you could go over Cumberland Pass. That would be a long day in a Jeep, and again, Tomichi Pass is narrow and dangerous in a few spots.
@waynesmith254914 күн бұрын
@@keeptrailsopen Thanks! You just saved the rental jeep from getting wrecked!
@michaelhelwig9614 күн бұрын
The 2 mud holes up towards top are ruff and I watch many going around and through willows. Good to hear they will be fixed. We put up a couple poles back up on Sunday on mirror lake side. SXS knocked them down while we we fishing.
@keeptrailsopen14 күн бұрын
Thanks Big Mike!
@TrailsToro14 күн бұрын
I enjoy all your videos. There is so much info you put out that I would have never guessed. I would read all the comments on trails offroad that would say the trails were gutted most likely to keep all the SxS's out but come to find out they are on a maintenance schedule lol.
@keeptrailsopen14 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@patriciarockwell653315 күн бұрын
this is a very helpful video. There is a very recent unhelpful bit of advice on FunTreks website advising people to stay away from the bank. Just an FYI.
@williamconlon418315 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for the work you have done on the trail. It should make a lot of Flatlanders very happy. Appreciate the time you spent going over the trail/road maintenance and the differences in the scheduling, great info for those of us residing and riding here in Colorado. Great Vid, Thanks.
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
For sure! Thanks for watching!
@nico.dehaan15 күн бұрын
Great information, thanks!
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@cmcer199515 күн бұрын
On Mirror Lake have you thought of placing a metal sign and post advising drivers to keep to the left bank on one side then on the other side to keep to the right bank?
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
Good call. We should do that.
@TrailsToro14 күн бұрын
@@keeptrailsopen I'll donate the sign if you are up for it
@robertherrmann482311 күн бұрын
Signs would only state the obvious. When I went there last year, there were some posts up, but I walked it first anyway just to be sure. Maybe putting some depth markers on the posts would be more helpful, as the lake level varies depending on the time of year.
@keeptrailsopen10 күн бұрын
@@robertherrmann4823 depth guages are already in the works.
@robertherrmann482310 күн бұрын
@@keeptrailsopenI knew you CORE guys were smart….
@PRodent15 күн бұрын
This is great! Thanks for the info.
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@darlawebber252415 күн бұрын
Thank you for the info! Appreciate what yall do. So Tomichi pass is open and by way of Hancock? Then to get to Pitkin , by way of Taylor Park would be by Cumberland pass. Then drive to almost Tomichi pass? Just trying to figure out how much of the loop we will miss out on. Seems like driving as far as we can, then backtrack back to taylor park
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
If you are in Taylor Park, you could drive over Tincup to St. Elmo, then take Hancock Pass to Tomichi Pass, over Tomichi, and then take Black Sage Pass and Waunita Pass to Pitkin. Once in Pitkin, you can go over Cumberland Pass to get back to Taylor Park. It's a big loop and might be too big of a day for a 4x4 vehicle, but in a SxS, it's doable in a day.
@darlawebber252415 күн бұрын
@keeptrailsopen thank you so much. Appreciate all your videos and info. One of the best informative videos I've watched. Need more people in the world like you! Have a great rest of your summer!
@dillonmagers28869 күн бұрын
@@keeptrailsopen we made that run on Thursday. 9.5 hours with 4 SxS’s. Including a couple 20 minute stops.
@keeptrailsopen9 күн бұрын
@@dillonmagers2886 hope it was a good trip. Were all the posts still up in the lake?
@dillonmagers28868 күн бұрын
@@keeptrailsopen great trip. A multi year Taylor Park rider said it was his best ride ever. Poles still up in the lake and the water crossing was easy. Thanks for all your work and the videos.
@danielforster71915 күн бұрын
Appreciate your hard works and the updates!
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
For sure. Thanks for watching.
@OutdoorswithGio15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comments and info on FS maintenance!!
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
Absolutly!
@texasaggie844915 күн бұрын
I came in June and rented a vrbo in Cimarron. My plan was travel to mirror lake to fish however CDOT closed the bridge at blue mesa. I tried the detour and that was closed the day I tried so rather disappointed. I camped at mirror lake last year and CDOT had 50 closed and required a 3hr wait to get through the construction if I wanted to go the black canyon. I understand hiway construction but 3 hour waits or closed with small window in morning and evening is ridiculous. I still managed to explore some new areas to me in my Jeep. I’ll be back next year.
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
There is a saying in Colorado that we have 4 major seasons here; fall, winter, spring, and road construction.
@craigstevens514614 күн бұрын
The bridge is closed due to major cracks found. COTrip has all the info on the times/dates you can get across the bridge or around in the detour. All of the information for the other closure you speak of was listed as well as that project had been going on for years, it is now complete. I suggest going to COTrip any time you visit CO.
@DeanJohnson6715 күн бұрын
As soon as I saw rhis I wondered if any reviews on Trails Offroad noted people should stay between the posts and preferably closer to shore and sure enough Marcus posted pics and details !!
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! I try to cover the info as many places as I can.
@lis-mzhydeadventures79815 күн бұрын
Thank you
@keeptrailsopen15 күн бұрын
For sure!
@BoneTime18 күн бұрын
You do all the Stewardship work then Texas Bob and California Carl drive into Moab on vacation. Unload their OHV from their trailer. Fill a cooler with beer, then go out and do whatever they want. "I'm entitled ta do what I want... muh freedums"
@keeptrailsopen17 күн бұрын
Thanks for commenting on the video metrics and reach.
@BoneTime18 күн бұрын
Y'all did it to yourselves. Trash, racing, making your own trails over sensitive ecology, piles of crap and toilet paper, modified OHV noise. You are being watched and videoed.
@keeptrailsopen17 күн бұрын
Thanks for a second comment on the video to help the metrics and the reach.
@Tinytottribe20 күн бұрын
Are there any off roading tours that operate during winter with snow conditions?
@keeptrailsopen20 күн бұрын
There are no offroad tours in the winter. Many of our roads are closed to wheeled motorized vehicles and are used for over-the-snow recreation, primarily snowmobiles.
@Tinytottribe20 күн бұрын
@@keeptrailsopen Thanks so much for the reply!
@Wyoutside26 күн бұрын
I’m 9+ months late here but I’m thinking the answer is to just go. Travel the lands however you want, be damned what the man says. That being said, don’t damage it. Stick to trails, etc etc. The rangers can’t handle the masses.
@keeptrailsopen24 күн бұрын
It may very well come to that one day. We are still fighting in the IBLA appeal process over the final decision and then will likely file litigation in Federal Court.
@stephaniemichaud802226 күн бұрын
Anyone been to mirror lake road in the last 2 days and can report on depth of water? We appreciate all the work done by the Keep Trails Open crew!
@keeptrailsopen26 күн бұрын
The deepest part today was 18" on the road.
@stephaniemichaud802226 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!
@keeptrailsopen26 күн бұрын
@@stephaniemichaud8022 For sure!
@Ajedwards30220 күн бұрын
@@keeptrailsopenso should be good to go for sxs this coming weekend and into next week?
@keeptrailsopen20 күн бұрын
@@Ajedwards302 Yes. 8 days ago, the water level was down to 18". It's lower now and easily passable for SxS machines.
@ev2512Ай бұрын
Looked like a good day to be a cameraman. Great work you guys do for the community, really amazing.
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@btaries12Ай бұрын
We aere there on June 26 ans it was deep
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
yep, it was 50" deep on the road when we opened the pass on June 30th.
@BeeRAD56Ай бұрын
I was at Mirror Lake on 7/11/24 also in a stock 2 door Rubicon on 33" and it was too deep for me!
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
That depth is no joke for sure.
@coloradomallcrawlersАй бұрын
Snorkel bros! Such great info!
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
I was hoping somone would get a laugh out of that. 😂
@DeanJohnson67Ай бұрын
just got my non-resident OHV and it says the sticker must be placed inside the vehicle on the lower right passenger front window so its visible.....:/
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
I'd just put it wherever you feel is a good place. The most important part you have covered, you bought the sticker.
@cathydobbins4541Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update. We'll be there in two weeks. Your work at getting trails ready and the reports to us is appreciated.
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
For sure! Have fun.
@JayElement13Ай бұрын
I wonder if it was H & H towing in Gunny towed that 4Runner away
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
I'll have to double check, but I believe the 4Runner was recovered by Gunsmoke towing out of the BV area.
@OlenappyАй бұрын
Thanks for the trail report and water Crossing information. Im planning to run tin cup then up Antero to camp in 2 or 3 weeks. I love that area its one of the best in the state.
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
Thanks for watching. Have fun when you are here!
@charleswhalen7332Ай бұрын
Great advice, both in this video and your previous one, for those of us less experienced from out-of-state. Viewer from Florida here, watching your videos in anticipation of future trip out there in my 4Runner. Looking at the bumper-stickers on the underside of your hood, I wonder if you may have previously lived in Florida. That "Moroso" bumper-sticker is identical to that of the very popular former Moroso Motorsports Park northwest of West Palm Beach in Palm Beach County. When the Moroso family sold the racetrack back in 2008, it was renamed Palm Beach International Raceway. It closed down for good in 2022. The track was a lot of fun. Everyone into cars, trucks, 4x4s, in South Florida used to go there. I still see a lot of cars around here in Palm Beach County with that exact same Moroso bumper-sticker that you have on the underside of your hood.
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
Thanks for watching. Funny you saw that sticker, lol! I have never lived in Florida but I have a friend who was into racing that gave me that sticker about 2 decades ago. My dad was into organized street racing back in the day and always put his product sticker under the hood instead of on the car. I started doing the same thing when I got this wrangler 24 years ago and that Moroso sticker found its way under the hood. Thanks for the background.
@NigelNaughtonАй бұрын
That depth is enough for a lot of vehicles to turn around and go back. It would be fun to volunteer to clear trails and things like that. Great tips that are often overlooked, about water crossings.
@huntere185Ай бұрын
Why would they do that? Why would they ruin a trail and modify the terrain for something unnecessary?
@NigelNaughtonАй бұрын
@@huntere185 I'm sorry... I don't understand
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@texasaggie8449Ай бұрын
I will be there next week. Looking forward to it.
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
Thanks for watching. Have fun!
@waynesmith2549Ай бұрын
Sweet, i am glad you guys have the ability to do what you do! It takes time and money to do this type of work
@clintcasey314Ай бұрын
trails are not closed, you can still hike them.... Super psyched they are closing these and this has me motivated to help preserve more land from off road use. Cheers
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
The ROADS are closed, they were a road, not a hiking trail. You could have always hiked them and you are more than welcome to hike as recreation. However, public land is not for a select group and closing roads closes access to most users.
@clintcasey314Ай бұрын
@@keeptrailsopen no one is being denied access to these areas just their vehicles, which is great for open spaces and allows wild spaces to be more wild. It’s ok to use your legs and the area still has an insane amount of off-road access. But since there’s way more hikers than jeepers we should probably close more of these “trails “. No one is being refused access to public land…
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
@@clintcasey314 you are confidently standing on a high place of moral superiortiy deciding what other people can and can't do. There are infinite variables that go into what people do on public land. The road system allows people to choose how to use public land for their situation. The roads (when they were all open) covered less than 1% of Gemini Bridges and Labyrinth Rims acrage in the TMP. You can spin it any way you want to fit your ideals, but one could say that the 2000 decision the BLM Moab Field Office made to eliminate cross county travel, and require all travel be done on existing routes did the most to keep the area wild and non-roaded spaces open.
@clintcasey314Ай бұрын
@@keeptrailsopen I know that area well, have decades with land management and recreation in the region and specific area. That area is littered with roads, just look at the map. I'm not being superior I'm giving my opinion based on experience. I watched this and other areas get trashed by off-road use and don't appreciate people misstating that they are being blocked from this area just because sensible land management is being applied. Again... there are way more hikers than off-road users, land use should reflect that. Also one is mainly for the rich and causes a much larger impact. Poor people buy shoes, rich buy side by sides and trailers.
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
@@clintcasey314 ditto on being in the area and using the roads for decades and volunteering for stewardship. You keep talking in circles to justify your opinions with more opinions and moving the target. Now it's a rich vs poor thing... Not worth more converstion, good day.
@jhubvidstashАй бұрын
So why not go run those trails and say "fuck you catch me if you can" to the schmucks tasked with keeping us out? There's only so many rangers out there to begin with...
@keeptrailsopenАй бұрын
We still have an appeal (and potentially litigation) with the IBLA, so we arn't quite at the civil disobedience recomendation. But who knows what the future holds...