You make it look so easy I have just received my rolling mill When starting on the first one with the ingot do you keep on the first track until it’s tight to the last setting Then start on the next track down and repeat ? I’m struggling getting passed the 2mm track to the 1.5mm Once I get to that one it leaves track lines in the wire like my wire is to wide for that track Any help much appreciated
@morrisbywaterlimitedАй бұрын
@@Elites-asthetic Hi. Sorry for such a belated reply! Are you making square wire with your tracks? If it’s too wide for the next track (which it pretty much always is), you can anneal the wire and run it through the same track along the alternate edge (as if on its side) to which you have been rolling (which will have formed a bit wider when rolling your top edge). Might have to do an update on this video to include such things.
@lancemillward19122 ай бұрын
I'm wanting to cast a knife bolster. Does the cuttlefish need to be heated up to pour successfully ?
@morrisbywaterlimitedАй бұрын
Hi. Thank you for your interest. While this is a decent video of ours, cuttlefish casting is not the method we would advise. You’re better off sandcasting (both in general and for larger items) with delft clay. [see links below to the kind of thing that is better]. There are loads of good videos online showing how to use these. The problem you have with cuttlefish casting is that the mold you make is a one-time use thing, so if the casting doesn’t come out good, you’ve got to start again on another 2 pieces of cuttlefish. With the sandcasting method, you can just remove the burnt sand, and keep the rest for the next use. And of course your casting mold frames dont perish from the heat like cuttlefish does (which answers your 2nd question - no you can’t heating the cuttlefish because your flame would burn right through it). www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305461190958?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=jhwXVWLNT4C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=hnEFy1azSnG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305513287080?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=jhwXVWLNT4C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=hnEFy1azSnG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@AndrewJamesGOLDART5 ай бұрын
Great video!! I'm really curious what kind of Hydrogen torch you're using??? It has a great flow rate for melting!
@mr.person95596 ай бұрын
what kind of solder was that?
@401KILLBRAMHALD5 ай бұрын
9ct white gold easy solder panel.
@prodBrainShot Жыл бұрын
Ayo could I pay u to melt down some silver and tree urn it into wire for me? I can ship it to you and shi
@morrisbywaterlimited Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the comment. Whereabouts are you based? Drawing down wire is quite a lengthy process, so by the time you’ve taken into account shipping fees and time taken to produce the wire, it would probably be a lot cheaper to buy readily made silver wire. Unless of course it is because the silver you want melting down is sentimental and you really want that metal in your jewellery. What is it you are wanting the wire for?
@danhoyt9961 Жыл бұрын
Why file the wire to a point rather than forging it?
@morrisbywaterlimited Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Either way is fine. Filing the end to a point is a little more accurate than hitting with a hammer. You could easily hammer a bit further up than you wanted and go thinner than the desired thickness. To each their own I suppose with that part.
@ristorinne5817 Жыл бұрын
Hello Morris Bywater. I am a silver hobbyist and a bought a budget mill. Only problem with it, is that it has rollers only for sheet, triangular, and half round. And there is no way to change both rollers, only the top roller. So i have always a flat roller at the bottom. If i may ask, is it possible to make first a half round wire with the mill and then pull it through the draw plate to get round wire? Good video.
@morrisbywaterlimited Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Risto. We don’t have a full round roller for our mills either, so when making round wire we draw square wire, then pull through the round drawplates to get it round. We do have a drawing bench now, which makes it a lot easier, but still do it manually from time to time. File the end of the half round wire round, so it is thin enough to show a good amount through the draw plate for you to pull. Just make sure you anneal the wire every 2 or 3 times you draw it through, to make it easier to pull and to not damage the resulting round wire. If triangular is an option, it will probably be easier to draw from that into round than half round. See around 04:20 of this video for us filing it round and drawing it down. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ16ecV6rLC1aKM.html
@ristorinne5817 Жыл бұрын
@@morrisbywaterlimited Thank you for reply. I´ll try first with square.
@suelemoliveira5805 Жыл бұрын
Ualll que lindo , primeir vez que vejo esse trabalho sendo feito com ouro lindoooo
@kingra31032 жыл бұрын
What powder did he use?
@morrisbywaterlimited2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, King Ra. It's Borax Flux Powder, which cleans impurities and also speeds up the melting process. It's usually about £8 to £15.
@gethglyburtsaliasaburton10062 жыл бұрын
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@stephendalton33112 жыл бұрын
Love your draw plate setup, in my day it was vice and large draw tongs, then fall on your arse when snapped. Keep up the good work!
@stephendalton33112 жыл бұрын
Thanks, takes me back to when I was an apprentice jeweller, many years ago.
@mikicro19832 жыл бұрын
Nice! good work!
@tommyfisher24302 жыл бұрын
Do you sale Silver Wire for making Colloidal Silver ?
@TheRealDToTsO2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to fill the whole cavity for lots of wire stock? I can't seem to get half filled without over pour out cooling.
@morrisbywaterlimited2 жыл бұрын
It is possible, but very difficult with a microweld unit. Where abouts in the cavity are you pouring the metal into (i.e. at the nearside, in the middle, at the far side etc.)? A lot of jewellers nowadays have much more powerful and hotter torches, which cover wider areas than the microwelds we use - for the services we mostly carry out, we've not found it necessary to go bigger ourselves.
@xbxllxe88162 жыл бұрын
Hi, I realise this was posted a few years ago but I was wondering if you could help me? I'm looking into making my own signet ring for thr 18th birthday, my plan was to carve my design out of wax, sand cast that with silver and once I've cleaned my silver prototype up to how I'd like i would then use the cuttle fish method, I was just wondering how you work out how much gold you need for your ring? I obviously don't want to melt too little and have a half cast ring. Also the you made a funnel for the molten gold to go into, the other couple of lines either side (I guess to let the air escape?) Did you mark those right to the edge of the ring shank or was there a little gap? I hope this makes sense, thank you so much!
@GOLD_FEVER2 ай бұрын
Hope you were able to make your ring ok!
@billieellendesigns2 ай бұрын
Came out perfect first time :) but I posted for the lost wax carving and delft clay method
@ukguitaryogi28883 жыл бұрын
sorry if I missed the detail, but does the durston rolling mill roll round thick wire rather than square as I didnt notice any round drawplates used after rolling mill use. many thanks, great videos!
@morrisbywaterlimited3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Thanks for your comment. The Durston rolling mill can roll square, flat and d-shaped, but not fully circular wire. As you say, this is drawn through round drawplates after rolling square wire. We have a Durston table top drawbench for this, but a more affordable (but harder work) method is securing drawplates in a secured vice and pulling through manually. Because the customer wanted a d-shaped bangle, using round drawplates wasn’t necessary for this piece :) The drawbench does feature in this video, around the 4:20 mark: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ16ecV6rLC1aKM.html
@ukguitaryogi28883 жыл бұрын
@@morrisbywaterlimited thanks for the fast reply. once you have rolled the wire square you must take it within around 1mm tolerance of the final size you want it to be before rounding fully off in draw plates? I am manually using drawplates and after four holes it just gets stuck I suppose I need more strength aha or to roll it down smaller in the mill then finish in the drawplate and vice? I am using sterling silver manual vice draw plate and plier technique in vice is used after you have it to the thickness but just want to draw it through to round it off? thanks!
@jd29313 жыл бұрын
so bad ass. nice video
@jeanwilliams58793 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael so lovely to see how you made my husband's wedding ring into my beautiful robin charm .It will be treasured by me and my family .🤗
@morrisbywaterlimited3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Jean. Oh great, you saw it without me even needing to send a link. Wishing you and your family all the best, from everyone at Morris Bywater Ltd ♥️
@user-wn8sb8qe4y3 жыл бұрын
Я первый! 😁👍
@hateonskillz3183 жыл бұрын
Great video loved how you rolled it through the mill but then brought it back negating the bend a rolling mill puts on metals when used was awesome to see. Also helpful seeing you use just a vice when using a draw plate. Seems like you work smarter rather than harder I can dig that. Been looking at draw benches but with a vice and sturdy surface seems quite effective. 👏
@morrisbywaterlimited3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Yes, we have a draw bench now, but this is a very effective method if an expensive resource like that isn’t accessible/affordable. Draw benches do have their drawbacks in that (unless you’ve got a really long one) the length of wire you can draw is limited. But then if you need it to be even longer, you can just use the plate and vice technique to go further manually. Thanks very much for watching.
@mrprank33 жыл бұрын
Excellent quality 👌
@skidadle35493 жыл бұрын
Hehe my teacher sent this so we can watch
@durhamregionseedbank27103 жыл бұрын
Ugly
@josephmueller57703 жыл бұрын
Wow! I love it!
@mrprank33 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Saywhatohno3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! How would you do inlay in a different gold color? For example, the ring is cast under 14k white gold and the middle line is in gold?
@wormemc4 жыл бұрын
Simple and beautiful.
@robpetesworkshop4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Love watching you work
@robpetesworkshop4 жыл бұрын
Just watched a couple of your videos , great work , love your working space and the music is unique 😆
@gazzmell11554 жыл бұрын
No pickling? The oxides are driven into the surface when you pull the wire through the draw plate if you don't remove them with pickle first. And why no oil or bees wax when you draw the wire?
@phukjoebiden82374 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone in the comments has shit to say about the way you work, I don't see them making anything by hand..
@phukjoebiden82374 жыл бұрын
What a MONSTER. Weight & carat? Cost?
@nesto72924 жыл бұрын
Why does my silver crack when i put it in the rolling mill
@morrisbywaterlimited4 жыл бұрын
Pepe Mercado Hi. This could be down to impurities in the silver melt. When melting down your silver, add a bit of Borax flux powder when the metal has liquified, which helps to draw out impurities. Then when rolling the silver, it’s important to anneal the metal frequently. You should be heating your metal up almost to melting point after a handful of turns through the rolling mill, in order to keep the molecules loose. It takes a bit of practice and experience to know how many times the metal can pass through the rolling mill before it needs annealing again. It gets a bit tedious having to constantly warm up your metal, cool it in acid then water, then back to the rolling mill, but it prevents the molecules becoming too rigid, which results in cracked and brittle metal.
@hateonskillz3183 жыл бұрын
Annealing is crucial to forming doesn't mean it's not real gold or silver. It means that it has been work hardened and wants to stay in place or keep the form it has taken shape of.
@sashasoule45853 жыл бұрын
Blowtorch to light pink and dunk, work on it some more until it resists changing shape and repeat the process. This anneals the work hardened silver or gold.
@maggiefoster62954 жыл бұрын
So easy eh? Beautiful. A couple of hours and years of experience. Thank you.
@krisraps4 жыл бұрын
I Hope The Client Gave You Them Old Rings ANd Stuff To From make The Band, Because You Need To Clean The Gold With Acids Ands Stuff To KNOW What Purity Is It
@morrisbywaterlimited4 жыл бұрын
KrisRaps Hi. Yeah, all the items were hallmarked in the UK at 9ct. We pour borax flux into the crucible (a shot of the process is absent in this video, but present in some of our others) at various stages of the melting to draw out any impurities.
@krisraps4 жыл бұрын
@@morrisbywaterlimited Well, You Will Not Get Out Silver Or Copper From The Gold With Borax, Only Non-Metal Inpurities. A lot of Rings Are Hallmarked At 14 While They Are 9
@phukjoebiden82374 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain this guy knows exactly what the frig he is doing
@Ideas10034 жыл бұрын
Very،👌🤔🌷🌹
@divaldosilva17204 жыл бұрын
Show essa técnica
@giancarloandrebravoabanto70914 жыл бұрын
very professional, nice work
@lisajarvis38204 жыл бұрын
Thank You ~ can you do one showing how to add a stone to the signet ring?
@Ideas10034 жыл бұрын
👍👌🤔😎👋🤝🇲🇦
@daviderossi4874 жыл бұрын
Hello M/ Moriss Where do you work ?
@karleenagore64644 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work!
@elmasnasılbulunur5 жыл бұрын
,
@user-ln5we9cr3w5 жыл бұрын
اسمع مني and hand shape ما يكون دي اند برايت سمايل كوبيو اسمع مني يا ابني اوعى تخاف زعلك واتس يور نيم واتس يور نيم واتس يور ثاني اي اي اي اي سبورت
@geosatan72855 жыл бұрын
Es fácil fundir con bórax y lo laminaba con yunke y martillo ... Lo recalentaba 7 veces para quedar laminado , al final hice un anillo colgado con piedra azul... Me encantó el orfebrería... Te felicíto por tu trabajo😊
@Mikro.10825 жыл бұрын
"ГЕНИАЛЬНО" а я то думал, голову ломал. 😯
@indianjewellerycraft015 жыл бұрын
Wow
@coimbatoregoldjewellerydes44405 жыл бұрын
Wow
@elitedestroyer00835 жыл бұрын
What is the name of equipment that rolled out the wire? (the one with the handle)
@blackjack33203 жыл бұрын
A rolling mill
@elitedestroyer00833 жыл бұрын
@@blackjack3320 After one year, an answer finally came. Ty
@mwatts-riley26885 жыл бұрын
What was the cost of this and what kt of gokd is it, 14k or 12k or 18k? M. IL. USA