I am eternally confused as to why she's fine with him hanging out with Dick. Madison is awful but she didn't roofie Veronica on purpose...meanwhile Dick literally told his brother to SA her
@adnamartins7821 Жыл бұрын
Verônica exige fidelidade até quando eles não estão juntos, como se ela não ficasse com mais ninguém na série
@justlive2809 Жыл бұрын
one of the many reasons why i do not ship Logan and Veronica at all
@soulprodz5941 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what series this is?Please
@freddiemolinajr.83972 жыл бұрын
l understand why veronica feels about madison cause madison is a horrible person l dont like how madison spray painted veronicas car windshield the word slut at shellys party and how she roofied varonica at shellys party l can't believe that Logan and Madison had sex together and lied to veronica about it lm not surprised that Madison did that she would do that
@freddiemolinajr.83972 жыл бұрын
veronica isnt wrong for been mad at logan
@KSPlaysYt803 жыл бұрын
What name is this show
@freddymolina40793 жыл бұрын
Good scene
@freddymolina40793 жыл бұрын
Good video
@BubblegumGirl3664 жыл бұрын
It disgust me that people are really in this comment section say that she had no right to this information. She was actively sleeping with Logan at that time and he lied about his past sexual encounter. What if he got something from Madison then gave it to Veronica? He lied to her so protect himself. If someone does something knowing that it will hurt someone they love than knowingly and actively lies about it... that isn't them protecting the person its them saving their own ass. Because they know that person will walk out of their life.
@johannahultman81944 жыл бұрын
Madison did not drug her. Like what is this scene? I used to love Veronica Mars, but I realise as I grown older how misogynic the show was. Really disapointing because the show seems to want to portray a powerful woman. But they just made Veronica to be "not like other girls". Logan is shit. Remember all his racist and sexist crap? Or all his violence? I used to love LoVe, I know better now.
@ICgay42 жыл бұрын
No she's still great lol
@adelviridian86784 жыл бұрын
can we please talk about the title ?😂
@purplecheesecake91024 жыл бұрын
If you think that Veronica is being irrational here, you're right! But irrationally putting all the blame for what happened to her on Madison is the only way she can NOT blame two people who did far worse to her that night... Logan and his bestest buddy Dick. Logan made her a target in the first place, and then at that party, he made her barely conscious body into a human shot glass. He absolutely did not mean for her to be raped but HE'S the one who initially crossed the line of doing sexual things to her while she was helpless, and then he invited his friends to do the same. Which is probably why Dick thought it was funny to carry her into a bedroom and flat out tell his little brother to rape her, and then leave him alone in the room with her. Not to mention that Veronica was only drugged in the first place because Dick was trying to drug his own girlfriend. The ONLY way she can allow Logan, who is STILL best friends with the guy who told her rapist to rape her, into her life is if she makes it someone else's fault, so she pushes all her anger and pain and hatred onto Madison through sheer force of will. And then Logan, the person she jumped through all those mental hoops for in the first place, slept with Madison the scapegoat and knocked down the barrier Veronica had put up between him and the worst night of her life. And all that pain and betrayal and disgust came rushing back.
@Kip_Novak4 жыл бұрын
Logan knowingly hid this information from Veronica, because he anticipated that it would hurt her. If what he had done was fine, then why did he feel the need to cover it up?
@mileystorer43462 жыл бұрын
@@boomds5602 she asked him before if he anything happened while they were broken up and he lied to her face
@boardonroad16462 жыл бұрын
@@boomds5602 eww.. how could u defend his ass?? pathetic
@HyouVizer5 жыл бұрын
12 years later "we married" **KABOOM** LoVe is dead
@Kip_Novak4 жыл бұрын
lol
@taskforceknight93363 жыл бұрын
LoVe isnt dead after the movie
@lilmama121 Жыл бұрын
@lilmama121 1 minute ago (edited) I know it's like they brought the show back to ruin LoVe, If they were gonna do that to them they should've just left it alone, for me, Veronica Mars ended after the movie, and the season 4 ending never happened, LoVe is happily married, and going strong
@samanthacooke51425 жыл бұрын
Just, is 15 years after the show. But really she didn't true feed you on purpose dick gave her the drug and her coke she gave it to Veronica by accident to give her something to drink. Logan did tell her she slept with someone she didn't really like he couldn't stand being with her and he didn't want wanted to be over as soon as he did it he just didn't give names. He's always jumping to the wrong conclusion without giving anybody time to explain the situation this is what I couldn't stand about the movie I can't stand about season 4 always just been till and she's always right and everybody in the world is wrong .
@MsEdgely5 жыл бұрын
I would react the exact same way in her situation. I feel like Logan does a lot of stuff out of spite, whether he realises it or not, and Veronica deserves better than that.
@MsEdgely5 жыл бұрын
@@boomds5602 It's not the fact that he slept with someone else, it was WHO he chose to sleep with. He knew that Veronica had issues with Madison and that sleeping with her would cause a great deal of pain to Veronica, but he did it anyway. Probably out of spite. That's why he is a jackass.
@MsEdgely4 жыл бұрын
@@marshmallow8785 Yeah, but Veronica wouldn't see it that way. All she would care about was that the guy she loved went with someone she hated (for good reason) - it's like the ultimate betrayal.
@kirstymcconnell5956 жыл бұрын
He wanted to come to the rescue, I wonder if part of him didn't hope that this would make him her white night and they would get back together again? But you can see the heart break as he realises she has double standards for the two of them. "Piz would never" meanwhile she's spent years accusing him of every wrong or potentially wrong thing with the minimalist amount of evidence.
@kirstymcconnell5956 жыл бұрын
He looks so helpless here, like please god get these thoughts out my head, I wonder how long he replayed finding them in that elevator before he started to quiz all their interactions and is realising he's not in love with Parker and any hope he had of displaying great boyfriend potential to Veronica by dating her friend is disappearing as he watches her move on with Piz.
@kirstymcconnell5956 жыл бұрын
I bet Logan found a quiet corner at that party to cry after that. He was still so desperately in love with her at that point, and she hadnt even bothered to mention his voicemail, she didn't follow up with him after the party, he's just had all that time after to torment himself with what might have happened.
@JUL4289 жыл бұрын
What episode was this?
@TVOCD9 жыл бұрын
Its kind of annoying she gets mad that Logan had sex with Madison, when she really didn't do that much to her, especially as she did not know she gave her the GHB laced drink. But she talks to and allows Logan to be friends with Dick after he encouraged Cassidy to rape Veronica in the first place. He never would have raped Veronica if Dick didn't tell him too. Cassidy was bullied all his life and molested, he was mentally unstable for most of his life, mainly because of Dick and his father. Anyone with a brain knows that after years of bullying people can snap. Cassidy raping Veronica, killing all the people on the bus and others, was Dick's and his father, and Woody Goodman fault. The rape was Dick's fault. I do not, nor will i ever like Dick. I have no sympathy for bullies, especially for those who bully there own siblings.
@whisperhug89117 жыл бұрын
she did know, that was what the whole trip to the dentist thing was about and how she was like "you have no idea what you did" comment came from. Also despite nurture argument your making, that's not an excuse for cassidy, as people have gone through much worse and still don't do bad things. Veronica herself was raped, bullied and lost her best friend and she used that pain to do good not kill a bunch of people and do horrible things. But Dick's an asshole and my only guess as to why she let them be friends is Veronica again is a good person and despite everything Dick did felt bad his brother killed himself.
@boomds56024 жыл бұрын
whisperhug lol are you stupid. The ‘ you don’t know what you did’ is proof that Madison didn’t know. Madison thought she was spitting in her drink not drugging her
@malcolmdunbar79610 жыл бұрын
Are people forgetting the fact that Logan lied about sleeping with Madison in the first place? Even after Veronica asked him point blank when they reconciled if he was hiding anymore secrets? I am pretty sure that played a part in why she couldn't forgive him as well. Veronica was willing to forgive Logan for sleeping with someone else during their "break", but Logan didn't own up to what he did, which is why Veronica has this reaction in the first place.
@George-Hawthorne7 жыл бұрын
Actually he didn't lie. When veronica asked him.if he was with anyone while they were broken up he said "I fooled around with this horrible girl that meant less than nothing to me and I couldn't regret it more."
@vmarsfiles5 жыл бұрын
He did tell her he slept with someone but he didnt say who it was. She forgave him for it. But once she found out who it was, she broke it off.
@burntblueberrywaffles3 жыл бұрын
@jamie fraser wasn’t that Madison?
@dylanleff3733 жыл бұрын
i think its just the point of she was really mad at this but the guy who tried to rape her was still friends and it was ok
@arjungayoga851410 жыл бұрын
"Actually, can I ask you something? The weekend you almost got your head shaved..." Yeah, Logan, we all remember that night. That was when Veronica was avoiding you because she wasn't happy with how you behaved with Mercer in Mexico. She was crashing at Piz & Walace's place. You, Logan, didn't give up on Veronica, because you searched for her and showed up in time to scare off the rapist before he has time to do much more than shave part of her hair. Rather like when you came to her rescue when she was caught on the roof with Cassidy Casablancas. Oh, and you were there when she got into trouble at the River Stix. However, when you & Veronica were broken up, you did the unthinkable & slept with Madison. That, dear Logan, is UNFORGIVABLE and Veronica dumped you because that was something she "...is never getting past." Wow. No words.
@IjeomaThePlantMama10 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put. I understand Veronica isn't supposed to be perfect or make good decisions all the time, but I really hated what the writers did when they broke up again
@june_rose9 жыл бұрын
+lpycb42 (now, please forgive me if i'm wrong on something, it's been a while since i watched the series) but Madison DID give Veronica a drink with a date-rape drug in it, KNOWING it was in it, didn't she? And at a high school/filled-with-drunk-teenage-assholes party? just handing veronica the date-rape drink to begin with, she's responsible as well. if i was veronica, i would share some hate with that girl as well, god. i understand why veronica hates her, and i understand how she couldn't see herself forgiving logan for sleeping with the girl who helped getting her raped.
@iamadreamer74619 жыл бұрын
I TOTALLY agree with @lpycb42
@IjeomaThePlantMama9 жыл бұрын
Madison didn't know that Dick had put something in the drink when she gave it to Veronica. All she thought was 'I'm giving Veronica a drink with my spit in it"
@iamadreamer74619 жыл бұрын
And now I TOTALLY agree with you pajamagirl123 !!
@arjungayoga851410 жыл бұрын
Veronica is a great character, but, dare I say it, she is a bit self-righteous. She has made mistakes, incorrect accusations and sometimes takes foolish risks. A strong female, and often a head-strong individual. A bit immature, too, I dare say. Having said this, the most interesting characters are flawed. Both her father & Logan love her unconditionally, yet she frequently rebukes them. I would like to see Rob Thomas explore the 'maturing' of Veronica Mars
@imjustakid72410 жыл бұрын
I definitely felt that way in season 1. She'd learn a bit of information, make assumptions and avoid Logan until he'd confront her. In this situation, she confronts him and tells him what she's upset about. He basically says "I didn't tell you because you didn't have a right to know. I knew it would upset you." Like that makes it OK. I think I'm on Team Veronica for this one. Loan really needs to keep it in his pants sometimes.
@imjustakid72410 жыл бұрын
FuzzyButtStinkyFace ***Logan
@boomds56025 жыл бұрын
FuzzyButtStinkyFace how could you be team Veronica on that? Logan was right. She didn’t have a right to know and he didn’t have to tell her. Veronica basically dumped him for his best friend. That’s way worse than this.
@green_tea9170 Жыл бұрын
@@boomds5602 She absolutely had the right to that information. And she was right - it could have been anyone but Madison. Logan knew how much she hurt Veronica. He knew. And he did it anyway.
@35koni Жыл бұрын
I love how this conversation has been going on for 9 years now, and I'll jump right in. A few points I'd like to raise: uhm, Logan broke up with Veronica, he didn't think they'd ever get back together so he was entitled to do what he wanted; second, he actually told her when they were being open with each other, he just didn't say the name. Veronica could have asked then but didn't, and she forgave him for that. She can't just take her forgiveness back?? I love Veronica Mars but I've always disliked Veronica. Like the time she accused Weevil of the robbery so confidently. "After all we've been through" said Weevil, and he's right. I don't know how people put up with her.
@lissellparedes36810 жыл бұрын
I just always hated that Veronica was OK with Dick and Logan being friends, than she was with Madison who didn't really do anything to her (knowingly). I'd be more pissed off at Logan for continuing to hang out with Dick.
@mannamorris85044 жыл бұрын
madison drugged her at the party after lily died, that’s why she hated her so much
@LoganBluth3 жыл бұрын
@@mannamorris8504 I think the point was Madison didn't know the drink was roofied. She DID spit in the drink and gave it to Veronica (an asshole move, YES, but nowhere near as bad as roofieing someone), but it was DICK who actually put the roofie in the drink and gave it to Madison in order (I think he claimed) to knock Madison out for the night so he could go sleep with some other girl. So in reality it's Dick's fault Veronica was assaulted because he knowingly introduced a roofied drink to the chaotic party situation, therefore it's really Dick who Veronica should hate and want Logan not to associate with anymore.
@jesswise86803 жыл бұрын
I agree !
@alexisd61063 жыл бұрын
@@LoganBluth she wrote SLUT on her windshield after she was raped. Also Madison tormented and bullied her for years. IDK why y'all are defending her saying it wasn't her fault and she was a fine character like she constantly is harassing Veronica.
@LoganBluth3 жыл бұрын
@@alexisd6106 Who on earth said Madison was "a fine character"...? Please, point me to where anyone claimed as much. What we're saying is: Madison was an awful character and complete asshole, but Dick is worse because he is directly responsible for the worst thing that ever happened to Veronica. Knowing this, it's weird that Veronica was fine with Logan continuing to be best friends with Dick even after she found out what happened, but completely lost her mind when Logan slept with Madison during the period after Veronica broke up with Logan and went back to dating Duncan. Basically - Madison was ACCIDENTALLY, and with no knowledge, involved with Veronica's trauma, while Dick actively caused it by putting the roofie in a drink at the party and pressuring Beaver to assault her while she was passed out.
@lilitifrock11 жыл бұрын
Because Piz is a good guy, cute guy, who wouldn't hurt a fly (don't get my wrong, I ship LoVe all the way!), so I do believe she didn't suspect him, despite her personal trust issues
@syrinypoo11 жыл бұрын
logan may not have betrayed her in the literal sense but her did sleep with veronica s arch enyme i mean when she was with him she had to of shared how much she hated her! and after they broke up they were still friends and that was like her big nemisis!!!!! I would have been pissed evan if we were friends! to me it wasnt a thing about his faith it was about betraying his friendship!!!!
@sue19542311 жыл бұрын
True dat...i so love this show. How cd they cancel it? Such a mistake...the best show ever...
@lmjbiread11 жыл бұрын
Im always left hurting for him at his reaction when she makes the vomit comment. He realizes how much he hurt her and it hurts him
@lmjbiread11 жыл бұрын
I do believe she overreacted but when you love someone as much as she loves him, any sort of betrayal seems like the most gut wrenching pride gouging act.
@WRONGTURN6911 жыл бұрын
arghhh rob is such a genius!! :D i love the vm elevator scenes! :D wanna see the movie!
@BrucasBangelBrylan11 жыл бұрын
Awww Logan is hurt :((((
@lilsis15311 жыл бұрын
im told they are making a movie
@KristenLinkinhoker11 жыл бұрын
veronica and logan. love them together. but love piz too
@BnPac111 жыл бұрын
Also it's baffling that she acts like Madison is this horrible person when in fact she is NOT. How was she supposed to know V was drunk? She just saw a girl flirting with her boyfriend (Dick). She is blaming the wrong persons for her misfortune. Anyway the movie will be filmed this summer, I'm super excited.
@BnPac111 жыл бұрын
Lol no cheating took place, they were NOT together, he broke up with her. And she also has never voiced that hatred so vividly to Logan before. And once again, he didn't cheat on her.
@SuperLovebug87 жыл бұрын
BnPac1 not the point it's the fact he slept with the girl who put date rape drug in her drink and she though for a long time she was raped
@iamsultana5 жыл бұрын
She didn't put any drugs in her drink, what the freak you are talking about? Madison's drink was spiked by Dick, she ended up spitting in the cup and giving it to Veronica. If she wasn't mad at Logan continuing being best friends with Dick, why would she be so angry at Madison? @@SuperLovebug8
@tollakt11 жыл бұрын
I didn't say Madison knew. i ment it wouldn't surprise me that if she knew there was GHP in the drink she would still have done it.
@lpycb4211 жыл бұрын
Nah it was obvious that Madison didn't know she was being roofied.
@tollakt11 жыл бұрын
honestly how madison is It wouldn't suprised me if she would have given it to her if she Knew it was GHB in it. besides Sleeping with the girl your EX hates the most theres allways some reason behind. And knowing it was dick who tried to roofie madison probs wasnt that bad since she hated her :P
@BnPac111 жыл бұрын
I think she was totally unfair to him, I find it weird that she would throw away their whole relationship because he slept with Madison when they were broken up, no matter how much she hates the girl. She is too hard on him every time : like when she just didn't show to the date on the boat without an explanation, or she left the house because she found out there was a camera in the room and each single he didn't do anything. She is always so quick to condemn him.
@BnPac111 жыл бұрын
Season 3.
@BnPac111 жыл бұрын
Je ne me souviens pas très bien de quel épisode entre le 11, 12 et le 13 mais c'était un de ceux-là. Saison 3.
@apsjwiakb12 жыл бұрын
LOGAN IS SOO CUTE :)
@kissessl12 жыл бұрын
I hate this scene the look on his face when she just starts to say the words and he knows where it is going is heartbreaking.
@KAsiamparks12 жыл бұрын
what season is this from
@lpycb4212 жыл бұрын
It just very telling that everytime Veronica looks at Logan/talks to Logan/ is anywhere near Logan while she's dating Piz, she looks like she just got caught making out with him/having sex with him; very guilty.
@lpycb4212 жыл бұрын
Logan thought he did it, that's why. Yes he should've made sure it was him but... what I really don't believe is that Veronica wouldn't suspect for a moment that Piz did it.
@az21bob6662 жыл бұрын
well walance is her Best freind and he like piz, so many that should have made logan ask a few questions.
@dayssuper5412 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would run a little where are they now mini series on the CW or online just to give us some closure. I wanted to see Logan and Veronica together!