I am eternally confused as to why she's fine with him hanging out with Dick. Madison is awful but she didn't roofie Veronica on purpose...meanwhile Dick literally told his brother to SA her

Verônica exige fidelidade até quando eles não estão juntos, como se ela não ficasse com mais ninguém na série

one of the many reasons why i do not ship Logan and Veronica at all

Can you tell me what series this is?Please

l understand why veronica feels about madison cause madison is a horrible person l dont like how madison spray painted veronicas car windshield the word slut at shellys party and how she roofied varonica at shellys party l can't believe that Logan and Madison had sex together and lied to veronica about it lm not surprised that Madison did that she would do that

veronica isnt wrong for been mad at logan

What name is this show

Good scene

Good video

It disgust me that people are really in this comment section say that she had no right to this information. She was actively sleeping with Logan at that time and he lied about his past sexual encounter. What if he got something from Madison then gave it to Veronica? He lied to her so protect himself. If someone does something knowing that it will hurt someone they love than knowingly and actively lies about it... that isn't them protecting the person its them saving their own ass. Because they know that person will walk out of their life.

Madison did not drug her. Like what is this scene? I used to love Veronica Mars, but I realise as I grown older how misogynic the show was. Really disapointing because the show seems to want to portray a powerful woman. But they just made Veronica to be "not like other girls". Logan is shit. Remember all his racist and sexist crap? Or all his violence? I used to love LoVe, I know better now.

can we please talk about the title ?😂

If you think that Veronica is being irrational here, you're right! But irrationally putting all the blame for what happened to her on Madison is the only way she can NOT blame two people who did far worse to her that night... Logan and his bestest buddy Dick. Logan made her a target in the first place, and then at that party, he made her barely conscious body into a human shot glass. He absolutely did not mean for her to be raped but HE'S the one who initially crossed the line of doing sexual things to her while she was helpless, and then he invited his friends to do the same. Which is probably why Dick thought it was funny to carry her into a bedroom and flat out tell his little brother to rape her, and then leave him alone in the room with her. Not to mention that Veronica was only drugged in the first place because Dick was trying to drug his own girlfriend. The ONLY way she can allow Logan, who is STILL best friends with the guy who told her rapist to rape her, into her life is if she makes it someone else's fault, so she pushes all her anger and pain and hatred onto Madison through sheer force of will. And then Logan, the person she jumped through all those mental hoops for in the first place, slept with Madison the scapegoat and knocked down the barrier Veronica had put up between him and the worst night of her life. And all that pain and betrayal and disgust came rushing back.

Logan knowingly hid this information from Veronica, because he anticipated that it would hurt her. If what he had done was fine, then why did he feel the need to cover it up?

12 years later "we married" **KABOOM** LoVe is dead

Just, is 15 years after the show. But really she didn't true feed you on purpose dick gave her the drug and her coke she gave it to Veronica by accident to give her something to drink. Logan did tell her she slept with someone she didn't really like he couldn't stand being with her and he didn't want wanted to be over as soon as he did it he just didn't give names. He's always jumping to the wrong conclusion without giving anybody time to explain the situation this is what I couldn't stand about the movie I can't stand about season 4 always just been till and she's always right and everybody in the world is wrong .

I would react the exact same way in her situation. I feel like Logan does a lot of stuff out of spite, whether he realises it or not, and Veronica deserves better than that.

He wanted to come to the rescue, I wonder if part of him didn't hope that this would make him her white night and they would get back together again? But you can see the heart break as he realises she has double standards for the two of them. "Piz would never" meanwhile she's spent years accusing him of every wrong or potentially wrong thing with the minimalist amount of evidence.

He looks so helpless here, like please god get these thoughts out my head, I wonder how long he replayed finding them in that elevator before he started to quiz all their interactions and is realising he's not in love with Parker and any hope he had of displaying great boyfriend potential to Veronica by dating her friend is disappearing as he watches her move on with Piz.

I bet Logan found a quiet corner at that party to cry after that. He was still so desperately in love with her at that point, and she hadnt even bothered to mention his voicemail, she didn't follow up with him after the party, he's just had all that time after to torment himself with what might have happened.

What episode was this?

Its kind of annoying she gets mad that Logan had sex with Madison, when she really didn't do that much to her, especially as she did not know she gave her the GHB laced drink. But she talks to and allows Logan to be friends with Dick after he encouraged Cassidy to rape Veronica in the first place. He never would have raped Veronica if Dick didn't tell him too. Cassidy was bullied all his life and molested, he was mentally unstable for most of his life, mainly because of Dick and his father. Anyone with a brain knows that after years of bullying people can snap. Cassidy raping Veronica, killing all the people on the bus and others, was Dick's and his father, and Woody Goodman fault. The rape was Dick's fault. I do not, nor will i ever like Dick. I have no sympathy for bullies, especially for those who bully there own siblings.

Are people forgetting the fact that Logan lied about sleeping with Madison in the first place? Even after Veronica asked him point blank when they reconciled if he was hiding anymore secrets? I am pretty sure that played a part in why she couldn't forgive him as well. Veronica was willing to forgive Logan for sleeping with someone else during their "break", but Logan didn't own up to what he did, which is why Veronica has this reaction in the first place.

"Actually, can I ask you something? The weekend you almost got your head shaved..." Yeah, Logan, we all remember that night. That was when Veronica was avoiding you because she wasn't happy with how you behaved with Mercer in Mexico. She was crashing at Piz & Walace's place. You, Logan, didn't give up on Veronica, because you searched for her and showed up in time to scare off the rapist before he has time to do much more than shave part of her hair. Rather like when you came to her rescue when she was caught on the roof with Cassidy Casablancas. Oh, and you were there when she got into trouble at the River Stix. However, when you & Veronica were broken up, you did the unthinkable & slept with Madison. That, dear Logan, is UNFORGIVABLE and Veronica dumped you because that was something she "...is never getting past." Wow. No words.

Veronica is a great character, but, dare I say it, she is a bit self-righteous. She has made mistakes, incorrect accusations and sometimes takes foolish risks. A strong female, and often a head-strong individual. A bit immature, too, I dare say. Having said this, the most interesting characters are flawed. Both her father & Logan love her unconditionally, yet she frequently rebukes them. I would like to see Rob Thomas explore the 'maturing' of Veronica Mars

I just always hated that Veronica was OK with Dick and Logan being friends, than she was with Madison who didn't really do anything to her (knowingly). I'd be more pissed off at Logan for continuing to hang out with Dick.

Because Piz is a good guy, cute guy, who wouldn't hurt a fly (don't get my wrong, I ship LoVe all the way!), so I do believe she didn't suspect him, despite her personal trust issues

logan may not have betrayed her in the literal sense but her did sleep with veronica s arch enyme i mean when she was with him she had to of shared how much she hated her! and after they broke up they were still friends and that was like her big nemisis!!!!! I would have been pissed evan if we were friends! to me it wasnt a thing about his faith it was about betraying his friendship!!!!

True dat...i so love this show. How cd they cancel it? Such a mistake...the best show ever...

Im always left hurting for him at his reaction when she makes the vomit comment. He realizes how much he hurt her and it hurts him

I do believe she overreacted but when you love someone as much as she loves him, any sort of betrayal seems like the most gut wrenching pride gouging act.

arghhh rob is such a genius!! :D i love the vm elevator scenes! :D wanna see the movie!

Awww Logan is hurt :((((

im told they are making a movie

veronica and logan. love them together. but love piz too

Also it's baffling that she acts like Madison is this horrible person when in fact she is NOT. How was she supposed to know V was drunk? She just saw a girl flirting with her boyfriend (Dick). She is blaming the wrong persons for her misfortune. Anyway the movie will be filmed this summer, I'm super excited.

Lol no cheating took place, they were NOT together, he broke up with her. And she also has never voiced that hatred so vividly to Logan before. And once again, he didn't cheat on her.

I didn't say Madison knew. i ment it wouldn't surprise me that if she knew there was GHP in the drink she would still have done it.

Nah it was obvious that Madison didn't know she was being roofied.

honestly how madison is It wouldn't suprised me if she would have given it to her if she Knew it was GHB in it. besides Sleeping with the girl your EX hates the most theres allways some reason behind. And knowing it was dick who tried to roofie madison probs wasnt that bad since she hated her :P

I think she was totally unfair to him, I find it weird that she would throw away their whole relationship because he slept with Madison when they were broken up, no matter how much she hates the girl. She is too hard on him every time : like when she just didn't show to the date on the boat without an explanation, or she left the house because she found out there was a camera in the room and each single he didn't do anything. She is always so quick to condemn him.

Season 3.

Je ne me souviens pas très bien de quel épisode entre le 11, 12 et le 13 mais c'était un de ceux-là. Saison 3.

LOGAN IS SOO CUTE :)

I hate this scene the look on his face when she just starts to say the words and he knows where it is going is heartbreaking.

what season is this from

It just very telling that everytime Veronica looks at Logan/talks to Logan/ is anywhere near Logan while she's dating Piz, she looks like she just got caught making out with him/having sex with him; very guilty.

Logan thought he did it, that's why. Yes he should've made sure it was him but... what I really don't believe is that Veronica wouldn't suspect for a moment that Piz did it.

I really wish they would run a little where are they now mini series on the CW or online just to give us some closure. I wanted to see Logan and Veronica together!