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@tibs2059
@tibs2059 7 сағат бұрын
Cool, a Microinverter.
@marcellowithtwols
@marcellowithtwols Күн бұрын
Hi Kelly, would it make sense to connect the inverter battery leads to both batteries instead to just 1 battery? (so that all batteries are the same distance to the inverter). Example: Connect inverter negative lead to battery 1, and positive lead to battery 2, then parallel the batteries with the paralleling cable as per usual?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 14 сағат бұрын
Hi! -With 2 batteries - you can parallel them to each other and then run the cables from the master battery (the PowerPro has a 600A internal busbar that will allow this to happen successfully. Server racks or more than 3 PowerPros with a singular inverter, we recommend using an external busbar.
@BryanMiraflor
@BryanMiraflor Күн бұрын
what a comprehensive review! thanks for all your work and input
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
You're so welcome!
@MrVlandus
@MrVlandus 2 күн бұрын
Why not make the signal wire a plug and play like your competitors?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
Great question! We will forward this to the manufacturer :)
@laurencecrispin6700
@laurencecrispin6700 2 күн бұрын
Does the yellow model have the dirty power filter?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
Yes!
@joshua9848
@joshua9848 2 күн бұрын
This video is old, been waiting for equipment from signature solar almost as long as this video is old.
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
Hi Joshua! If you’d like to send us your order number to [email protected] we can look into this for you!
@bryanward7451
@bryanward7451 2 күн бұрын
I purchased two 6500EX's when they first came out (18-24 months ago?) with the intentions of building a complete system. At that time, I also purchased four EG4 48v/100ah server rack batteries and 8kw of solar panels, all from Signature Solar. As life happens, all of these components are still in the unopened boxes and have simply been occupying a corner of my garage. So, as life continues to happen, I'm just now able to tackle the project. It appears that Signature Solar no longer carries these and I'm guessing that these models had problems or are simply antiquated now? Any advice, updates, or guidance would be greatly appreciated before I start building my system? Thanks in advance for any help
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 16 сағат бұрын
Hi! We have an upgrade program available to trade in these 6000EX units for the new 6000XP or 18kPV units. This would be a great opportunity for this situation. You can find out more and if you qualiufy here: signaturesolar.com/upgrade-program/?Upgrade-Program-2024&_hsmi=294141019&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8TXuIO6YZ3kkyUS_wMrraKv0kZacKAhvkYHpfVX2dhnlmDYvR_x7qibY-N_XiZAeur7Wv2L_oCPnOcZrmjUual1t1Jdsj5tQwI1ksjCDdf6I58gt4&fbclid=IwAR1B6AuaFX5Y8hxE0mfeV3Lgx2laKVCPtI9GzMzqyrb_s1mdrd1poc9qhs4
@SASouthwing
@SASouthwing 2 күн бұрын
Nice video. Will this unit communicate with the Schneider Xanbus for SOC? My EG4 batteries are connected to the Xanbus.
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
Our batteries communicate to the Insight device, if the particular Schneider device uses only Xanbus without the use of the Insight home then no.
@mattharvey8712
@mattharvey8712 3 күн бұрын
Bravo.....great idea.........now .......make it self washing.......they should pay me ......cheers
@Philips53
@Philips53 3 күн бұрын
I’m confused about the minimum battery requirement for a specific load. Can I run a 2000W load with two LifePower batteries (48V 100Ah) and an EG4 3000W inverter?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
You can run a 2000W load from a singular EG4 3k and 2 batteries quite easily, given that the load is a 120V load. The EG4 3k is a 120V inverter when its not in parallel.
@skipdenny2192
@skipdenny2192 3 күн бұрын
8 awg and larger use non-crimp connectors. Best way to attach wire? Do I need to solder?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
This depends on which line you're referring to - for PV wire its just a clamp terminal and the bare copper wires do not require soldering 99% of the time.
@Tom-hb1no
@Tom-hb1no 3 күн бұрын
great video - would these work with tesla Powerwall 3?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar Күн бұрын
No, these are only for DC solar panels.
@Tom-hb1no
@Tom-hb1no Күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolar thanks for your reply.- Let me restate the question perhaps i have asked incorrectly. If I have Hyperion solar panels and a powerwall 3 for my battery backup for a grid tied system, could I add these optimizers to the panels? Are the optimizers compatible with Tesla PW3 inverter and Tesla gateway 3?
@sukmy1i
@sukmy1i 4 күн бұрын
Why are you not crimping those cables?
@hawkena1
@hawkena1 4 күн бұрын
what will this partnership bring to the table?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Hi! We will be launching some new and exciting products! Be sure to come back and check it out soon!
@russellkamp8923
@russellkamp8923 4 күн бұрын
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@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Hi! Can we answer a question for you?
@ourme2
@ourme2 5 күн бұрын
Quick question: why does the indoor head unit appear to be rather large? The size appears to be similar to a regular 18k btu unit
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 5 күн бұрын
The Minisplit unit dimensins are: 33.1×8.1×11.6 in. - The 18kPV dimensions are 34.3×20.5×11.2 in - So it's quite close!
@ourme2
@ourme2 5 күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolar Bummer, I was hoping to be able to use this 12k unit in my travel trailer, but I have only 32” for a super tight fit between some overhead cabinets. Thank you for your prompt response!
@fullyelectric
@fullyelectric 5 күн бұрын
Wait don’t you have an identical one for outdoors as well? So I would say for both indoor and outdoor use!
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 5 күн бұрын
We do have an indoor and an outdoor unit :)
@666lockupeviltrump
@666lockupeviltrump 5 күн бұрын
is the charger needed because eg devices does not actually support generators.... even though it says a gas or diesel generator can be used?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Some generators produce cleaner sine waves than others. The chargeverter can clean up the dirty sine waves from generators, making the energy acceptable for the inverter.
@666lockupeviltrump
@666lockupeviltrump 3 күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolaryes we understand that, but the EG4 devices that say they support generators should clean the generator output automatically. i've not heard of anyone successfully connecting a generator directly to an EG4 6000xp or 18k. I do appreciate your reply thank you
@kimphan9874
@kimphan9874 2 күн бұрын
Why have a generator hook up on the 18K if you can’t use that connection and have to buy this ChargeVerter? Would like a list of generator that is recommended to use with the 18K.
@frostyfroze7352
@frostyfroze7352 5 күн бұрын
I would love to see a manufactured, 120V AC plug-in cord for that charger ready to buy off the shelf. Without the need to make a dog bone or take off the end plug and rewire it.
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for your feedback! We will forward this to the manufacturer!
@sciglassblower
@sciglassblower 6 күн бұрын
I have 2 of these New ChargeVerters I purchased from Signature Solar after I had already purchased 2 6000XP's, a Rack of Batteries and a pallet of Solar Panels. The following info is Serious for Off Grid Customers. #1 You cannot use the communication to batteries when batteries are already connected to inverter communication making this upgrade useless. #2 Since you cannot start the generator based on SOC because you cannot use the communication feature, you are stuck with inaccurate voltage making this upgrade useless. #3 Turning On the ChargeVerter will cause your 6000XP's Inverter to Shut Down and Restart shutting down all your loads. #4 Why didn't they include a true battery charging feature inside all 18K, 12K and 6K so you can hook up a normal sized generator to each 6000XP, 18K, 12K etc and Not harm the Inverter or shut down the system when starting up generator charging? You could then run one generator on one unit or start another generator on the second unit etc as needed! #5 So they have upgraded the ChargeVerter with useless features, charged more for the unit and still have not fixed the problem of flipping on the Chargeverter Breaker Shutting down the system? They have had many All-In-One systems get damaged due to the lack of proper info to customers on this subject resulting in Damage. Customers hooking up a generator up to just one unit or multiple generators to multiple All-In-Ones not knowing that they must hook up Only One Generator to all All-In Ones in the system or you will have serious issues like phase unmatching which can cause all kinds of Damage. Or customers hooking up too small of a generator to their All-In-Ones causing shut downs, failures and damage. Or customers generator operating outside of the less than 3% distortion tolerance damaging their units. So this video is their solution which left out critical info? Only customer solution is to purchase additional ChargeVerters that we should not have to do and were not informed that we needed. Few people have large enough generators to satisfy their design issues. Only customer solution is to leave the ChargeVerters ON at all times so you can start up your generator when needed without the whole system shutting down and restarting. I am not the only one upset about this issue and EG4 has not replied to me at all. They should At The Least provide a fix for this shutting down issue and send that additional device or upgrade to all customers who purchased. Lets see if they respond to this comment?
@666lockupeviltrump
@666lockupeviltrump 5 күн бұрын
yes. nicely stated thank you.
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your feedback! We will forward your comments to the manufacturers! 😊
@basspig
@basspig 6 күн бұрын
Is it true that the eg4 charger has a better than .99 Power factor? I got that info from some data Communications power supply modules that are supposedly the modules used in this charger.
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
92% at 120v and 94% at 240v
@basspig
@basspig 2 күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolar Those sound like efficiency numbers. What I'm asking about is power factor, how closely the current wave aligns with the voltage wave. Number is important for de-rating generators. The data sheets someone posted on the telecomm grade PSUs inside the EG4 product suggest it may be 0.99 PF, but I'd like to be sure.
@basspig
@basspig 6 күн бұрын
What I can say about the yellow one the earlier initial first model is that mine withstood a lightning strike which blew out a different brand of inverter charger that was also hooked up in parallel and running on the generator at the time of the lightning strike the eg4 product just kept right on going like nothing had happened but lightning had actually hit my solar panel array. The electromagnetic pulse from that was considerable and went into both the charge rotor and the other product. The other product went up and smoke was the charger is still good to this day.
@basspig
@basspig 6 күн бұрын
I have both the yellow charger and the new Black unit you have featured here. For the first two weeks it was a mystery why the new unit wouldn't charge past 89 or 90 amps but I just recently figured out that the new charger thinks the battery voltage is 2/10 of a volt higher than the old charger. There's a difference in calibration of the metering within the Chargers. So I had to add 2 volts to the charging threshold on the new unit to get it up to the maximum 93.5 amps that I've been able to get out of these. I've never had one of these actually produce 100 amps of output.
@ToddLarsen
@ToddLarsen 6 күн бұрын
Added to my wish list for X-mas.
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 5 күн бұрын
Great thing to have on your list!
@surfcow
@surfcow 6 күн бұрын
Another great video. I was just wondering how this is best used.
@mikebroom1866
@mikebroom1866 6 күн бұрын
Those of us that are using this as just an AC charger and not for automated generators would appreciate the cheaper original. Had my eye on the original to charge my DIY electric ZTR mower. Was waiting for the next sale when it got discontinued and replaced. The price, especially of the new one, has me limited to a 60V 5A variable power supply. It's almost 1/10 the cost and works.
@jonlawrence
@jonlawrence 6 күн бұрын
I just bought 2 of these, I would really love a guide for dry contacts. I have westinghouse generators with push start and I have no clue how to hook them up to the chargeverters.
@joeelliott8454
@joeelliott8454 5 күн бұрын
I hacked the smart switch port on my Westinghouse WGen7500 so I can remotely start/stop the generator from anywhere with my phone. The relay is about $20 on amazon and uses the Tuya app to control it.
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Hi! Page 5 and 6 shows the plug pinouts and how to wire it and 16 and 17 shows the dry contact description. eg4electronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/EG4%C2%AE-Chargeverter-GC-Manual.pdf
@jonlawrence
@jonlawrence 3 күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolar I have read the manual, I am still having a problem with connecting it to the generator, they are push button start generators but don't have dry contacts, how can I overcome this?
@LizGower-o8o
@LizGower-o8o 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, can one take wind turbine power, quite dirty ac with low power (1000watts) and clean it up into a dc form and use it to trickle charge ones batteries?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Possibly but it is untested, however we do not recommend ac coupling a wind turbine to our units as it creates dirty sine wave
@ianmburke
@ianmburke 6 күн бұрын
Super helpful! I just received my Chargeverter a few days ago and this will be an excellent reference for the setup
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 5 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@GavinStoneDIY
@GavinStoneDIY 6 күн бұрын
Nice work on this one. Good video
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 5 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@OzarksGypsy
@OzarksGypsy 6 күн бұрын
In what scenario would you want communication between the Chargeverter and Battery verses Battery and Inverter?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
Because it will allow for it to automatically start and stop the charging
@OzarksGypsy
@OzarksGypsy 4 күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolar And you believe that is more important then the features that come with communication between your EG4 18pkv and the battery?
@joeldcoxks
@joeldcoxks 6 күн бұрын
Seems like a good solution to use a 3 phase generator to backup a home, assuming you've got solar & batteries on the system.
@norsk54472
@norsk54472 6 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ha5xi9yVsNrMiIE.html
@ThomasWhittaker
@ThomasWhittaker 6 күн бұрын
Any suggested guide for the dry contact setup on a generator?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 4 күн бұрын
here is a link to a guide: drive.google.com/file/d/15mt9HhPCXdjYSfx9NCAqZk6eIpffHBZA/view?usp=sharing
@ThomasWhittaker
@ThomasWhittaker 4 күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolar thank you
@carson3210
@carson3210 6 күн бұрын
Very well done!! Easy to follow..
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 6 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TEN-ve8mp
@TEN-ve8mp 6 күн бұрын
💯
@ericjansen9042
@ericjansen9042 6 күн бұрын
What are the criteria for determining if you need to install one of these between your inverter and a generator? I believe if it's an inverter generator, you're good to go / don't need to have one, if I recall. Same thing, what if people have a say 20KW standby generator? Does it just depend on the standby generator?
@RichaRat
@RichaRat 6 күн бұрын
Yes. See video at 6:45
@ericjansen9042
@ericjansen9042 6 күн бұрын
@@RichaRat Ah, missed the part about 3% THD. Granted, I still don't know what that means. Guess I have some research to do. ;)
@sciglassblower
@sciglassblower 6 күн бұрын
Your generator must be Huge if you are using multiple units in parallel and especially if running large loads. And Only One Generator must be hooked up to all units in the system. So you cannot hook up a 5000w continuous output pure sine wave generator to 2 6000XP's if you are running say 6000 watts of loads on your 12000 watt system. You would need a generator that could put out 12000 watts continuous pure sine wave of less than 3% distortion. See my comment on this video for more complete info.
@ericjansen9042
@ericjansen9042 6 күн бұрын
@@sciglassblower I have a 20kw Briggs and Stratton standby generator and an EG4 18k. In the odd event that I lost power the batteries needed charging, I just want to make sure that I don't damage my inverter.
@sciglassblower
@sciglassblower 5 күн бұрын
@@ericjansen9042 I hear you. That is a Huge Generator for sure. Standard generators are not inverter generators and the rpm of the generator is what determines it running at 60 hertz. If you have a meter to read hertz check it and if it is off check your manual. I don't know if it has auto adjustment or manual adjustment but that is the main issue. She said that most generators are only stable at up to 60% and others claim up to 80% on standard generators. The trick is to keep your loads low when using the generator on the 18K and set the total generator current to limit running the generator over 12K output or so. 12k output at 240v is 50 amps. 12k charging is 230 amps into the batteries but part of that will be used for the loads. Or you can get 2 ChargeVerters and run 240v from the generator to both and get 200 amps charging to the batteries or 3 for 300 amps. Your generator can handle this. It is a bummer that they have issues with damage on these All-In-Ones if the harmonic distortion is too high. They should have designed this better to handle more distortion, but they really should have a real charger like the ChargeVerter built in.
@clarencewiles963
@clarencewiles963 6 күн бұрын
The cleaning of generators output is the key to electrical energy production 😊
@zero00044
@zero00044 6 күн бұрын
How is this camping? Lol
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 6 күн бұрын
Haha! This is just a demonstration :)
@lliaolsen728
@lliaolsen728 7 күн бұрын
I need to make a conversion cable to connect MC4 to DC8020
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 6 күн бұрын
You can purchase this here: www.amazon.com/ENZPOWER-Suitcase-Industrial-Connector-ConnectorCable/dp/B08185CWQ1/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-QS6g-R5tRFqwJRB_RHs8H_NjQ1XqEV6xua5Y3LCwToOk3nGoL6GbCbf2yYeiSrgu8Z_LLzr2nxVlkLuCJBB2yc3exkrbt03SYYx5Vdbw2k2S7e2qNSBoDf2DzeRbs53dnFoM_t4MsOb-r_b-NIbgefjmOuKOoW-ipWWVneHPmkoOTEJGMb6ZheDOuOvtw9SgUD4X4sYxCXOHTHtzzXZ8-sf38BwivewJd9vRXUjZz8.WJJTtvQwAvhsd696fmW7HpQSNn9bgG1WUQ6VcG9wEDU&dib_tag=se&gad_source=1&hvadid=684051182618&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9027015&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=18043632035408635998&hvtargid=kwd-2264183322649&hydadcr=1334_13654974&keywords=dc8020+to+mc4&qid=1721225564&sr=8-1
@lliaolsen728
@lliaolsen728 6 күн бұрын
@@SignatureSolar I saw that but wasn't sure if I'd get power loss or potential fire hazard from the 14AWG part of the cable, vs making my own with 10AWG or 12AWG. It would need to handle 400 watts.
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech 7 күн бұрын
Would these work with Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Home backup system? It can accept up to 450 volts at 15 amps
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 6 күн бұрын
It can work with an RSS transmitter without an inverter so it should work in your application. The transmitter's power supply would just need to be on the same ac circuit as the RSI.
@user-rl5wm1cm1k
@user-rl5wm1cm1k 10 күн бұрын
A little envelope with cash for the inspector.😂
@timdowns4629
@timdowns4629 10 күн бұрын
I just bought one of these and it says 200A discharge and 50A continously. Is mine different?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 8 күн бұрын
The manual says 100A. If you'd like to call into our tech support line at 972-441-2090, we can look into your order and confirm what it is supposed to be.
@rodneyhunt
@rodneyhunt 10 күн бұрын
Nice work Kelly!
@MrSeaCheese
@MrSeaCheese 11 күн бұрын
Thanks, you resolved the confusion I had after watching another youtuber in less than 1 minute.
@jeffhennig9200
@jeffhennig9200 11 күн бұрын
I know the transfer sw because of the batteries. Can a system like this be grid tied with a way of using a “transfer” sw only when you need the batteries?
@SignatureSolar
@SignatureSolar 8 күн бұрын
This would be a setting to swap power priorities - the reason we recommend the transfer switch is so if the inverter needs a firmware update/to be taken down, then the house still has power from the Grid. Otherwise if the 18kpv goes bad, you would need to pay to have grid rewired to your breaker panel and then pay again to have the inverter rewired when it arrives.