Jr. Pac-Man PCB Repair - No Scroll
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@dereklytle6719
@dereklytle6719 2 күн бұрын
Mine was doing the thing at the end and it looked like it was raining sideways, how did you fix that?
@dereklytle6719
@dereklytle6719 2 күн бұрын
Also I connected the video output on my board directly to the points on a video composite cable but it didn’t show anything, is it because I am using a normal CRT tv with a standard composite cable? Should I do something else to get video?
@filter4now
@filter4now 2 күн бұрын
Wow - that's amazing! What's the "rejuv" setting on this device, is that the maximum (hit it with a sledgehammer) to get the CRT watchable until a new one comes in? I want one of these now - don't really have $3k though. Thanks for explaining the more technical aspect - the ratios of cutoff seem as if they would be quite important on newer CRTs and how their circuitry works with the tube. My 34" HD Toshiba the horizontal output is a single chip (SMD) which I DONT like - I prefer discrete components so I can actually fix rather than replace the unit (that seems like what they build new things for - throw them away and buy a new one). I remember my Goldstar monitor in 1998 - got it for $130 it failed paid $40 shipping for warranty repair it then failed completely. (The Horizontal Output pulse was just "1" (High) and it fried the flyback some time later)
@jacklick
@jacklick Күн бұрын
I am probably slightly wrong but the rejuv function basically releases the full stored energy of the large capacitors all at once vs the low and slower process of the restore functions. It is kind of like a sledge hammer and should only be used if you are not seeing any life on the guns (ie the guns are so contaminated they don't emit enough to electrons to register). I haven't messed with too many newer tubes but agree they are easier to replace than fix.
@chrisdorr5786
@chrisdorr5786 4 күн бұрын
Dude, I can't thank you enough for this vid! Excellent step by step breakdown, fantastic. I was having the same issue, voltages good going into the transformer, squat on the output. Desoldered, cleaned all lugs, trimmed and tinned all connections and bam! Solid. Much appreciated.
@jacklick
@jacklick 4 күн бұрын
Glad the video helped!
@operationrestore3308
@operationrestore3308 6 күн бұрын
Nice!
@jacklick
@jacklick Күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@yazansirafi
@yazansirafi 11 күн бұрын
Hello bro i would like to contact you do u have any social accounts
@troytaylor8220
@troytaylor8220 22 күн бұрын
thanks for the video. I just picked up a cr70 for a good price but it was missing all the manuals, so this helped me field test it while I find the manuals online. Thanks again!
@jacklick
@jacklick 21 күн бұрын
Glad it helped
@popculturecreations9852
@popculturecreations9852 26 күн бұрын
Do you work on these?
@jacklick
@jacklick 25 күн бұрын
Not by choice. What is the problem you are having?
@popculturecreations9852
@popculturecreations9852 24 күн бұрын
@@jacklick I want to make sure it is working properly! I am trying to see if my picture tube is good.
@jacklick
@jacklick 24 күн бұрын
@@popculturecreations9852 in both my videos I do the field test and you should be able to google cr7000 field test and find it. That will tell you if the restorer is working correctly.
@Tig3rj
@Tig3rj Ай бұрын
Oh man this thing uses a 3dFX board? Good luck finding any of those around..these cards were the go to card when they first came out in the PC World. We are talking 25 years ago! You could prob hook that video into any old computer to see if it works provided you have the proper slot for it..I believe it was an AGP Slot. ohhh as I write this I see you hooked it up to an LCD screen.. Thing is, you could put any cheap AMD or Nvidia card that would be better..but the problem is that you will get no display cause the system wouldn't have any drivers to run that card since the images to rebuild the drive are old and the OS is locked down I am sure. Most are just Linux builds from what I have seen. This is pretty much a PC that is hooked up to an Arcade Monitor. So fixing these things you have to think like you are fixing a PC than fixing a Coin Op Arcade.
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
Yea, these cards are getting pretty hard to find and as you stated, the boards won't work with anything else. Thanks for the comment.
@encoresarcade
@encoresarcade Ай бұрын
This is really helping me. I just picked up both BH2 & CK with issues last week. Hope we get em fixed!! Congrats 🎉on your progress. Will check on klov too!
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
Glad it has helped. Good luck on your repairs.
@delsarcade
@delsarcade Ай бұрын
Are you into vintage PCs? If so, I have a bunch of parts where you can piece together a few PCs. I can bring the bin to Troy's and you are welcome to take it all.
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
Hey Del! I wouldn't say I am into it and appreciate the offer but no need :)I just had this so I could test old ISA device programmers and stuff like that. Since I had an old atx power supply laying around, figured I might as well get it back up and running.
@Omega_Mark
@Omega_Mark Ай бұрын
Wow, this brings me back:). Dell used this chassis for many years, including the original Pentium. This Optiplex was a staple in my college. All the labs had these. That was the time I first used Windows NT. Some years later I was fixing and selling these on the side:). Remember playing Command & Conquer against my friend on school's LAN. Good times. I still have the CDs :).
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
Yea I have some nostalgia of building my first pc and stuff like that.
@estebanmartinez4410
@estebanmartinez4410 Ай бұрын
Do you have that book on pdf? im searching for it cuz i need it, i do have that cr7000 but not that book
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
which book is that?
@MrEkg98
@MrEkg98 Ай бұрын
I have the v1 software. Waiting on the chip for the latest version.
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
I will need to check mine. What are the changes or improvements?
@buffett1978
@buffett1978 Ай бұрын
Awesome video as always. i am glad to know the PCB's are working good and i can put other rom sets on them to make new games available to play. it was uneventful but that is not a bad thing, i learned things i did not know and may not have ever known if it was not for your experimentation and teaching of how things work. thank you so much for what you do for this hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
Thanks for kind words. Btw, I found two more boards I need to test.
@coinacceptorchannel6481
@coinacceptorchannel6481 Ай бұрын
I have both the labprog+ and the jetprog. Only the labprog+ works on Windows10. Is there a reason for that? And is there a way to get Jetprog to work on Windows 10?
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
This doesn't make sense to me. The same software connect to both jetprog and labprog and i can't imagine the parallel port driver being different. Are you using a USB to parallel port adapter?
@coinacceptorchannel6481
@coinacceptorchannel6481 10 күн бұрын
.​​@@jacklickI am using a PCI-e to pararallel port adapter that I bought from ebay. It workes perfectly with my parallel port programmers elnec labprog+ and eetools topmax on my Windows 10 computer. It does not however work with the jetprog. I really can't understand why since the labprog+ and jetprog uses the same software. I know the jetprog is working, since when I try it on a XP machine it workes perfectly.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Ай бұрын
I'm confused when you Strap for the Master Side VS the Slave Side, what is the dipswitches strapping doing? its changing the addressing to the ROM chips or what?
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
It is just jumpers on the adapter. I didn't check but likely video and controls.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Ай бұрын
@@jacklick So the jumpers on the adapter do some type of scraping/routing for the Nintendo PPU graphics video chip?
@jumpingeneral
@jumpingeneral Ай бұрын
How’s the game doing today ? I just picked up a cockpit but needs work. Blue screen. No sound. Any suggestions on what could be wrong ?
@jacklick
@jacklick Ай бұрын
Congrats on your pick up. Start with power and make sure pcb card edge is in good shape or gnd and +5v have been jumpered. Look for battery corrosion and I guess watch some of my videos :) Good luck!
@YeloDoesStuff
@YeloDoesStuff 2 ай бұрын
My drive just broke today, thanks for the video mate! My day was about to get ruined!
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Glad it helped.
@YeloDoesStuff
@YeloDoesStuff 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick thanks :) I might get to work in the weekend lol
@user-sn3ds6ud8k
@user-sn3ds6ud8k 2 ай бұрын
Hi I have a GALAXIAN board with no daughter board for the roms where can I get the adapter you are mentioning? By the way thanks to you I can bring life back to a board and a game machine that has sat dormant for years
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
I don't know what section I referred to that in. macros-arcade.com has a galaxian section that covers a multi-game pcb kit, single rom hacks etc. fellow klov member also has a solution www.arcade-cabinets.com/board_hacks/GALAXIAN-DB-R/
@Brandon-gn7zn
@Brandon-gn7zn 2 ай бұрын
I'm having the same issue 131 and it's new chip tried you same thing the magic didn't work
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Did you verify power at the ram chips ( I think I show this in the video)? If they are the original 4116 you need -5v, +5 and +12v at the ram chips. If you have good power to the ram chips, check my joust 131/134 ram error video.
@Brandon-gn7zn
@Brandon-gn7zn 2 ай бұрын
Okay im going try that this weekend with volt Meter
@user-sn3ds6ud8k
@user-sn3ds6ud8k 2 ай бұрын
Hi love your videos best education for me since I am just starting to learn how to repair boards. I am working on a centipede board and I have repaired it and it is up and going on the bench but the trackball just goes to the left and doesn’t move. I tested the movements and they are changing states at the chips and I see .7v to 4.9v from the trackball but still no change and it doesn’t work. Any advice I tested the 74ls191 74ls74 74ls157 40106 and they all perform fine
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
You are in the correct location. I can offer anything additional off the top of my head. Your best bet is to start a repair thread on KLOV. Good luck and report back if you figure it out.
@luckylukev
@luckylukev 2 ай бұрын
Excellent work. That's one finished and done!
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Technically, I still need to replace the ceramic caps with mica in clock ckt, but I like calling it done too! :)
@luckylukev
@luckylukev 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick None of my 15 cabs are "Done", there is always a little thing I could change or clean better, and that the fun part of it.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 ай бұрын
Most arcade games use Chicklet Style Size Capacitors. Why do they use Chicklet capacitors because the Chicklet must have to do with either the temperature or ESR.
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
It must
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick I think the chicklet capacitor housing is made out of the same material used for power resistors for stability and heat
@demofilm
@demofilm 2 ай бұрын
Down the rabbit hole with nv ram... This kind of research can be troublesome
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Let me know if find anything additional out.
@classicarcaderepairs4818
@classicarcaderepairs4818 2 ай бұрын
Great job on the PCB build! and programming that NVRAM is weird. I had no idea you could do that.
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. Yea, I wouldn't have thought of programming the nvram without clue. I was puzzled why mame had a dump of the nvram...probably so it doesn't error out either.
@classicarcaderepairs4818
@classicarcaderepairs4818 2 ай бұрын
The reason Mica caps are used in the oscillator circuit is because they are extremely stable. Even under heated conditions, they just do not drift, and they are usually more accurate on their value. This affords a very stable, and consistent frequency. Ceramic caps are generally not used in those types of circuits, because they tend to drift, and are very touchy when it come to heat. They are mostly just used in bypass circuits where accuracy is not critical.
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and info. I mistakenly said mylar vs mica in vid. Went down 🐇 hole ... always learning new stuff in this hobby.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 ай бұрын
Why would a switching power supply causing timing issues of the read/write times for the NVRAM? you mentioned it in the video at time 9:40
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
I linked to the thread that discusses it. It reportedly has to do with how long it takes for 10v unregulated to drop below 8v of zener to trigger write vs how long 5v stays available so nvram is still operational to support the write. In an originall cabinet, there is like a 10k cap on those lines vs on bench it is not. I didn't see the behavior on my bench but also didn't change settings or hs.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick yes all arcade games used the big blue 10,000uf to 20,000uf cap, is this what you're talking about that is keeping the 5vdc stay longer on the NVRAM? When you turn ON a switching power supply it should output +5vdc, -12vdc and +12vdc, why would they drop in voltage or have different timing of voltages?
@FrancisJFox
@FrancisJFox 2 ай бұрын
Such a fuuuuuuuun game :)
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Yea hopefully I won't procrastinate too long getting full cab together.
@Rhine_Labs
@Rhine_Labs 2 ай бұрын
On the Lower Board Location U42 A W27C512 I believe is the ID Chip tell the software that it is a Chipmaster 6000, LAB Tool 48, or Dataman 48 / Dataman 48LV I will have a backup on my site of the Chipmaster 6000 in the next day or two. If you care to share copy of yours?
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
You want me to dump the w27c512 and upload it? Unfortunately, I no longer have this unit but know who does and can reach out.
@Rhine_Labs
@Rhine_Labs 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick yes that would be great.
@buffett1978
@buffett1978 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video!!!! glad it was an easy fix!!!!
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Yep easy peasy. I honestly spent more time troubleshooting my jamma adapter and pvm video cable than the board.
@buffett1978
@buffett1978 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick that's actually in a good way ironic, i have doe the same thing with building JAMMA adaptors for games as well. PCB test or repair went fast but the adaptor took an hour or more.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 ай бұрын
The I/O switches are getting detected read by a multiplexer chip that will output a data signal, what is that multiplex data signal called? Because each switch will have a certain multiplexer data signal
@dfwtrucker1
@dfwtrucker1 2 ай бұрын
Between this video and the comment about gluing the gear, I am back in business. Thank you!
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Awesome. Glad you have yours working again.
@user-sn3ds6ud8k
@user-sn3ds6ud8k 2 ай бұрын
Hi I really love your videos and it inspired me to start learning how to repair boards. I repaired 7 defender sets and 4 stargate sets. I just got a centipede board and I repaired it to the point where I get an almost working game with half the screen with jumbling characters. I don’t have the game harness with the test switch and I was wondering if you could help me how to get it into test mode any help would be greatly appreciated Phil
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Nice to hear and congrats on repairs. I would look at the schematic and trace back where test comes into the pcb card edge. You can just gnd finger 13 of the card edge as well. good luck.
@user-sn3ds6ud8k
@user-sn3ds6ud8k 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick thanks so much for the info I tried looking at the schematic and I can’t find the test switch in them. I only see schematics for playfield video audio coin door and etc but I can’t seem to find the test. You say finger 13 so that’s opposite of M right? Do I have to keep it grounded or just momentarily? Thanks again and thank you for all your videos it has inspired me to pursue board repair which I’m finding so interesting
@user-sn3ds6ud8k
@user-sn3ds6ud8k 2 ай бұрын
I found the self test right where you said I can’t believe I missed it thanks again
@luckylukev
@luckylukev 2 ай бұрын
Great setup, thanks for the tour.
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment!
@Yoeddy1
@Yoeddy1 2 ай бұрын
Your arcade just kills man! Love it!
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated.
@TheVTrider
@TheVTrider 2 ай бұрын
Gen-X here, very impressive! Just retire that Millipede machine and replace it with fully working Centipede (1983 South Eastern MA State Champion: 14yrs old / Centipede)
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Nice! Can you still put up high scores? I do have the multipede kit in mine but honestly only ever play millipede. I need a a dedicated Centipede.
@Omega_Mark
@Omega_Mark 2 ай бұрын
0:15 You pronounce his last name "Shabo." He's Hungarian, I believe:).
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Ahh. good to know.
@Omega_Mark
@Omega_Mark 2 ай бұрын
6:54 You give the answer to your own question just seconds later lol. The top and the 2 clouds are all Karate Champ. ;)
@Omega_Mark
@Omega_Mark 2 ай бұрын
This is the particular screen with the US flag and all (from teepublic): poster-and-art/25519985-karate-champ-retro-karate-arcade-game
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
I guess I win then :) Good job.
@Omega_Mark
@Omega_Mark 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick My link got deleted by YT, again. It's the screen where they fight on a log and with the American flag in the top center (burned in as well):). The judge is on a cliff above them on the right. Yes, you win, but I still get a participation trophy. lol
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Funny story. The guy that had the game told me "I didn't know you were supposed to turn the game off" They had the game plugged in, running 24x7 for like 5 years!!!
@Omega_Mark
@Omega_Mark 2 ай бұрын
​@@jacklick Wow, that's probably in the last couple of years when the game was old already :/. I remember back in the 80s arcade places would keep the games 24/7 on, as they were more likely to malfunction during a cold start than just running non-stop. I wouldn't do this today, though lol. Keeping the games on also kept the high scores of some of the older games that kept just the first place score and reset the rest, if restarted. Omega Race was one of these. All the scores were mine for a very long time until one day they reset them:).
@trussknowone
@trussknowone 2 ай бұрын
Was that a Taito Frontline burn in? I just swapped a tube on one and it’s pretty close. I really enjoy watching your repair videos. They are really helpful.
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
I ruined surprise but it was Karate Champ. Thanks for the comment.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 ай бұрын
Why aren't you making repair videos much this year?
@jacklick
@jacklick 2 ай бұрын
Just busy with work and other stuff. I will get back to it.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 ай бұрын
@@jacklick I hope so I want to see new repair videos
@jasonsteverson4609
@jasonsteverson4609 3 ай бұрын
Hey. Have the same issue. Cut the slam switch. Still making noise. I can hear the game play faintly same as yours. What should I do?
@jacklick
@jacklick 3 ай бұрын
check the schematic here. arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Arcade_Atari_Kee/Centipede/Centipede_DP-182-1st-02B.pdf I would verify nothing in the harness is shorting the slam line. Disconnect pcb and check chip K9 pin3. Ohms to +5v should be higher than 1k. if it is less than 200 ohms, I would cut the pin and see if problem goes away. Then replace K9. Good luck.
@upuchri
@upuchri 3 ай бұрын
@jacklick thanks for the great videos. can you explain how you wired up the speaker connection. In particular how you wired it from the board, which pins. Did you just join all four channels together out to one wire for the amplifier and ground to the other wire?
@jacklick
@jacklick 3 ай бұрын
I will need to double check my harness but believe that is what I did.
@dinkohorvat6650
@dinkohorvat6650 3 ай бұрын
100% is the gear, dust or dirt
@jacklick
@jacklick 3 ай бұрын
It was the gear.
@upuchri
@upuchri 3 ай бұрын
@jacklick I like that fingerboard...can't seem to find one like that on the Internet. Where did you source that from?
@jacklick
@jacklick 3 ай бұрын
I believe that is one I got fro Ian Kellogg bit he no longer is in business. Twistywrist arcade has the closest thing now I think. forums.arcade-museum.com/threads/where-to-get-good-jamma-fingerboards.433386/#post-4814930
@FranktheDachshund
@FranktheDachshund 3 ай бұрын
There is a Bugtrap 2074 on eBay right now are they worth it?
@jacklick
@jacklick 3 ай бұрын
I do like it better than the hp. Is it worth it? I just like tools but honestly have found my scope and logic probe more useful.
@hunter8928
@hunter8928 3 ай бұрын
Lubes used in the video list? In the middle of doing this on my pp lol
@onekei1K
@onekei1K 3 ай бұрын
What is the book you are referencing at 23:30?
@jacklick
@jacklick 3 ай бұрын
It is the ti data ttl book. There are many revisions but any 80s version would likely be fine.
@AntonioBorba
@AntonioBorba 4 ай бұрын
Very nice taste, indeed. Just sent a message through KLOV. Congrats, amazing job.
@jacklick
@jacklick 4 ай бұрын
I saw the message. Thank you very much!
@bryanhosford8029
@bryanhosford8029 4 ай бұрын
when doing a self test do you know what a #15 error is?
@jacklick
@jacklick 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't. I haven't had any errors on mine. Was there a specific test (e.g. comm, dac, other) where it gave the error?
@bryanhosford8029
@bryanhosford8029 4 ай бұрын
doing a self test when it got to the dac @@jacklick
@jacklick
@jacklick 4 ай бұрын
@@bryanhosford8029did you do the self test with or without the test adapter? I don't have answers but might help others in the future.
@bryanhosford8029
@bryanhosford8029 4 ай бұрын
with the adapter @@jacklick
@BETAMAX19732
@BETAMAX19732 4 ай бұрын
Good game by atari thanks for sharing this classic game
@jacklick
@jacklick 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment