This means literally nothing if you don't show gameplay.
@RainbowFRA18 сағат бұрын
Hey, thanks for the deck tech ! How do you pilote the deck vs your UWING Han ?
@Thorrk_THT18 сағат бұрын
Be aggressive and prevent Han from double ramping with NGTMD, cunning, or killing it in one shot with DL-44 blaster. I don't think it's a difficult Match up.
@RainbowFRA17 сағат бұрын
@@Thorrk_THT thanks. Would you sideboard anything vs Han ?
@Thorrk_THT17 сағат бұрын
@@RainbowFRA sorry I don't understand the question
@RainbowFRA17 сағат бұрын
@@Thorrk_THTI meant sideboard not mulligan 🫣
@Thorrk_THT17 сағат бұрын
@@RainbowFRA +1 boba armor +3 bodhi rook +1 change of heart -2 4-LOM (unless he play R2/C3-PO) -3 Dj
@mary.mallon18 сағат бұрын
Hey-o! Question, is a Kylo Deck Tech in the queue? Or is it a build not worth the analysis and / or investment in time? :)
@Thorrk_THT18 сағат бұрын
Haven't got a chance to play it enough, from my experience the deck is very all-in and easy to counter.
@RossCooper19 сағат бұрын
Perfect timing! Prob taking my Boba Cunning list to a tournament on Sat :)
@paoroyКүн бұрын
Hi Thorrk! Thanks for these, your deck tech videos are my favorites on the internet. Curious to know... How has Boba Green been for you with Set 2? How would you update this deck with Set 2 cards?
@Thorrk_THT20 сағат бұрын
Haven't played too much boba green but boba yellow instead there is a new video coming about boba yellow today :)
@divineoblivion12 күн бұрын
Thank you for showing this very interesting deck and I can't wait to try it! What is your opinion on "A New Adventure" for this deck? Yes, it is out of aspect but considering you have a lot of great synergy with your "When played" cards
@Thorrk_THTКүн бұрын
Thanks for your kind words :) A new adventure is already not that amazing in a double cunning deck because it's quite situational if you have to pay the aspect penalty then it's asbolutely terrible. The best thing you can reactivat with it is a tie advanced, but then why not just play a tie advanced for the same cost? For the effect to be worth it you need to reactivate an effect that is worth 4 resources and there is nothing worth that cost in the deck (or in the game for that matter)
@divineoblivion1Күн бұрын
@@Thorrk_THT I appreciate you taking time to answer that question, and taking the time to explaining it in the details you have. :)
@losdetos2 күн бұрын
Did you try this deck against bane green with all the constant ping damage, OB and slow downs like ngtmd, waylay etc?
@azrael983 күн бұрын
In your mind, how much is lost if Sabine is switched out for Cassian Andor? (as leader)
@pdandeneau46593 күн бұрын
I think my favorite thing about the Cassian card is that it removes the stress of picking a resource lol.
@bassman603 күн бұрын
Hey thorrk is there any way you make the bad batch into a respectable deck?
@Thorrk_THT3 күн бұрын
No sure What you mean by respectable. I am a competitive player so I usually don't try archetypes unless I think that they have a chance to be competitive. In this case, I don't believe Hunter as any chance to be competitive therefore I won't try. Testing decks and tweak them to the point where I am comfortable showing them on this channel is very time consuming and requires a lot of work behind the scene, so I have to be mindful of the time I spend , and I would not want to waste my time on leaders that I think are not competitive.
@bassman603 күн бұрын
@Thorrk_THT thanks for replying. I really appreciate your content, I mean to say competitive, but I definitely see your reasoning and I look forward to see what you have in store.
@Emperor-Kane4 күн бұрын
Could you make a palpatine or krennic deck next please! I’ve got x2 snoke x3 vigilance just chilling in my collection that need some play lol
@janhadzik51944 күн бұрын
Love your content!! Thanks for doing this high class content. If you ever got time - do you think you can make Chirrut Yellow work? I tried so many things already, but I can't make it completely competitive.
@Thorrk_THT4 күн бұрын
Weak leader, weak color combo (yellows white) the only reason that would make me want to build a chirrut yellow would be because it has good force enablers at every stages of the game, the problem is that the only good force pay off is force throw and it's out of aspect so that seems like mission impossible with the card pool we have.
@aiYabOi5 күн бұрын
Great video thanks for update.
@imzwiing5 күн бұрын
Any thoughts about running a similar Young Han list with a similar shell? Han is able to dump his hand pretty early + play really resource efficient and put on a lot of pressure because of that. Or is the burn from Sabine just better?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
It's a different deck both are good for different reason, Young Han green is more for swarming the board , a bit slower with less reach but more capable of generating value. I have a feeling that Sabine is a better deck atm, but as I said in the video I have a feeling sabine is the best deck in the game rn.
@TheWordOfBird5 күн бұрын
Great video that expertly breaks down Sabine's new midrange potential! I won a 50 person Showdown (6-0) last weekend with Sabine Green. My list was very similar to this with two key differences: I ran 3 Timely Intervention and 3 Sundari Peacekeeper. Timely allowed me to take care of pesky units without using my ECL (Lurking Tie Phantom for instance). Peacekeeper kept me alive in aggro matchups and gave me the edge needed to win. It also has excellent synergy with Darksaber. I also ran two Darksabers. I know this hurts the Heoric consistency, but combining the best of the Rebels with some Mandalorians provided flexibility to not have to rely on any one strategy.
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
Congratulations! Those 2 cards are definitely strong considerations and I explained in detail in the video why I decided to not include them.
@Emperor-Kane4 күн бұрын
Could you post your deck?
@Silver-co3tb3 күн бұрын
Would love to see a list
@Smartdrive783 күн бұрын
What would you take out to incluide Timely, The Peacekeepers and a 2nd Darksaber?
@TheWordOfBird2 күн бұрын
@@Emperor-KaneHere is my list. Let me know if you have any questions about it. -- Dark Rebel Sabine by WordOfBird - Leader and Base 1 Sabine Wren, Galvanized Revolutionary 1 Energy Conversion Lab - Ground Units (26) 1 Reckless Gunslinger 2 SpecForce Soldier 3 Battlefield Marine 3 Sabine Wren, Explosives Artist 2 Fighters For Freedom 3 Cassian Andor, Rebellions Are Built On Hope 3 Sundari Peacekeeper 3 K-2SO, Cassian's Counterpart 3 Poe Dameron, Quick to Improvise 3 Wrecker, BOOM! - Space Units (12) 3 Alliance X-Wing 3 Green Squadron A-Wing 3 Red Three, Unstoppable 3 Wing Leader - Events (9) 3 For A Cause I Believe In 3 Rebel Assault 3 Timely Intervention - Upgrades (3) 1 Heroic Resolve 2 The Darksaber - Sideboard (10) 2 Bright Hope, The Last Transport 2 Disabling Fang Fighter 2 Ketsu Onyo, Old Friend 1 SpecForce Soldier 1 The Darksaber 2 U-Wing Reinforcement
@MrAlias5 күн бұрын
Just in case you want to make the video a bit cleaner, without editing, you can use control+tab to switch between chrome tabs, or control+w to close one and move to another. A quick f11 to go fullscreen before and now no one can shame you for your 200 tabs ;). Excellent deep dive btw.
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
thanks good tips!
@elliooo95 күн бұрын
Would love to see an updated Boba Green list next! Great vod as always. As a Boba Green main, this matchup has felt nightmareish because of Wrecker and Poe as you described. Normally I got to take the momentum on turn 4/5 since Sabine didn’t have any splashy midrange cards, but those two are so back-breaking. Still trying to figure out how I should be approaching that match up.
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
yes Poe and Wrecker have changed the MU dramatically
@CoquilleTV5 күн бұрын
J’essaye de rattraper mon retard sur le set, top ça aide énormément merci bcp ! Force 🙌🏻💪🏻
@joem85075 күн бұрын
What is a good alternative if you do not have any copies of Poe?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
steadfast battalion
@matthewharris86685 күн бұрын
Do you feel this deck is better than the Yellow version of Sabine that was in the TTI final?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
I think it's better yes. The reason is fairly simple, both decks were very close in power level in set 1. However ,Sabine yellow didn't get a lot of news goodies is set 2 and most of its upgrades (poe and wrecker are that good in sabine yellow), Sabine green got them too. On the other hand green got absolutely MASSIVE upgrades in set 2.
@justinalbin72725 күн бұрын
I fundamentally disagree with using the 25 health bases in an aggro deck. I have NEVER lost a match aggro vs. aggro when my opponent is using one of those bases. I can sideboard cards in to give me a better chance against decks I match up poorly against, I can't change my base though. You're locked in with that base for the entire tournament, and aggro is very popular at every event I've played in. I'm sure everyone can list tons of reasons why ECL is a must have against Boba and whatever other decks are your likely opponents at tournaments, but it is a handicap against other aggro. The only counter to my argument is that you should be more concerned about the Boba decks than you are the aggro decks, but if that's the case why are you playing this deck to begin with? Why not play Boba?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
If you think that Sabine green should play a 30 hp base, then you don't only disagree with me you disagree with pretty much every single high level Sabine green player that I ever met (and that's a lot of people). Even if I could decide to switch base after side I would still play ECL in the aggro mirror(only exception maybe if I play against an all space deck). If you don't think ECL is worth the 5 HP it in this specific deck, then you haven't played ECL properly or you haven't played agaisnt people who use ECL properly. Without ECL this deck doesn't make any sense you would be much better off playing Sabine yellow or red.
@BadatBoardgames5 күн бұрын
Yes she is tough(er) lol
@jarolmapper56605 күн бұрын
I think Al advance to final but rebel reausorce beat him. Sabine yellow still have good matchup against green. Even I beat Sabine green Al in seasson 5 with my Sabine yellow despite I'm green Boba player, but we will see, i think these will be very interesting games.
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
It can go either way for sure
@jarolmapper56605 күн бұрын
True
@DarthEdge5 күн бұрын
What's the ideal path to follow in a game?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
the ideal path look somthing like this t1 2-drop try to arena dodge t2 fleet ltd or wing leader t3 K2 So/darksaber and Sabine deploy t4 ambush poe t5 finish the game with FCBI
@DarthEdge5 күн бұрын
@@Thorrk_THT how about ECL Wrecker instead of Poe? At T5 there are usually units that, when dealt the 5 when played dmg, with overwhelm are perfect for dealing tons of damage and removing annoying trades
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
@@DarthEdge you do use ECL on wrecker I just gave you an ideal scenario, but it obvioulsy depend
@kevineng43723 күн бұрын
@@DarthEdgeI’ve been trying to play poe at 5 and save the ecl for wrecker at 6. His ambush/overwhelm is so good !
@PDKFitness5 күн бұрын
You think Mandalorian Sabine deck ecl with spark of hope (ramp to get her out early and Darksaber supporting other mandalorian units) is a viable deck?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
Especially when you're leader is so cheap I don't think it's a good idea to ramp in an aggro deck. I think mandalorian synergies are A LOT worse than the rebel synergies in general. So can it work? Yes I guess. but is it as good as A rebel focus aggro deck: hell no. Keep in mind that making a mandalorian deck does make the darksaber more impactful, but it doesn't make it any harder to answer for the opponent the card remain fragile and situational
@DiegoDeschain5 күн бұрын
Yeah, in my experience, that's the best deck right now, I have over 70% win rate with it on Karabast. No other deck comes close.
@rebelresource5 күн бұрын
Thanks for the credit for the Valiant Assault Ship!
@davidvelazquez6775 күн бұрын
Need the Qi’ra list!
@kerambeach5 күн бұрын
Thanks
@dave84135 күн бұрын
Is it possible to replace Poe with something? Im a little short on new Ls and money rn, thanks.
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
Steadfast battalion like the old list. But is is significantly worse.
@AegirAexx5 күн бұрын
You could go without Poe and have Steadfast like Thorrk mentioned but to get everything from that card Sabine leader has to be in play and the card's aspects/traits compromise the deck synergy. Without Poe you could also strengthen your lower cost cards and have the ability to go wide and that would be really beneficial in control match ups. The set 2 MVP card for this deck is Wrecker IMO.
@AmbroiseLabelle5 күн бұрын
It's not a big deal, play Battalion. It's still really good and it has overwhelm. It's just a little bit different to Poe.
@filipidczak88105 күн бұрын
Having Alliance X wing as your 2 drop is almost as bad as having no 2 drop. Little to no difference
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
What you say is very very wrong. Alliance X-wing over A-wing has the advantage of trading with 3/2 in space which sees a lot of play in set 2 , it is actually better now that it was in set 2. Of course, A-wing is still better overall because of the +1 attack but you still need at least 6 turn 1 space units to arena dodge your opponent consistently on turn 1. If you have the choice between a battlefield marine that will be traded by an opponent 3 attack unit on the ground and an uncontested X-wing, you take the uncontested X-wing every single time.
@house.of.tremere5 күн бұрын
Also if your 3 drop play is Fleet Lt. or Wing Leader it’s way better then no 2 drop.
@3dkillers88325 күн бұрын
Tell us you're bad at the game without telling us you're bad at the game.
@davidgans94335 күн бұрын
@@Thorrk_THT what about Grey Squadron Y-Wing instead of Alliance X Wing
@filipidczak88105 күн бұрын
@@3dkillers8832 Glad you were able to deduced that by a comment someone made online. Maybe instead of yapping online you will be able to show how good you are at the tournament one day
@lucascarpellini92795 күн бұрын
Sabine is too strong now , we have a counter deck?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
Boba still has a very decent MU against it, other than that, maybe some midrange/control green deck will be able to adapt their deck to fight it.
@kingweb115 күн бұрын
@@Thorrk_THT I'm thinking Cad Tarkin Town would have a good chance against this.
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
@@kingweb11 maybe
@jessewallace38055 күн бұрын
Chewie yellow, I fended her off and won.
@JonahNiklasPlays5 күн бұрын
Sabine looking 🔥 rn
@SammelstelleBrett-undKarten5 күн бұрын
Have a Double Red, nearly without rebells, but included with darksaber. Love it!
@samueladams69645 күн бұрын
What are tending to take out against control to bring in the extra 2 Qi'ra and 2 Change of Heart?
@Thorrk_THT5 күн бұрын
against hard control : 2 lackey 3 cloud rider and 1 bright hope and you want to add the confiscate as well. against control midrange it really depends on the deck , that's why I am not giving an precise side plan because I don't know yet what people are playing exactly.
@fraserb7756 күн бұрын
Do you have a link for swudb
@Rejnols6 күн бұрын
Not sure if it was already said but Miggs Mayfield can only trigger once per round. You mention it proccing multiple times at 9:17
@Thorrk_THT6 күн бұрын
good point thanks
@DietrichSz6 күн бұрын
Hi, thank you for the deck, looks really nice, do you have maybe any tips how do you use sideboard, especially what you take out?
@Thorrk_THT6 күн бұрын
The meta is not established enough to have a detailed guide on how to sideboard, however I go over the different sideboard cards and when to use them in the video ;)
@DietrichSz6 күн бұрын
Yep that's clear, for example assuming you want to include big ships when playing game against somekind of control oriented deck what would you take out? Do you try to keep the curve or just select the most useful cards in the particular MU?
@duesexistat50167 күн бұрын
Agree with most of your list. I would add Maul for sure. Not sure about evacuate yet. Seems good, but it has the same problem laser blast has, that you spend your whole turn dealing with their stuff then they can just replay them, without damage. Bazine is fantastic, especially with Ma Kolunkee. Dr. Pershing is really good. It’s a must have in the colors. Wrecker really does wreck!
@duesexistat50167 күн бұрын
Also, the new First Light space vehicle is super solid in this deck - also don’t mind resourcing early one. In fact, you want to.
@duesexistat50167 күн бұрын
Funny, I had no idea Krennic was doing this well. Long story short, when the original set came out I committed to only investing in one deck, and that deck was a home brew Krennic/green. I’ve had decent success with it at the local game store (although I didn’t build it to be competitive). His flip on five, big butt, and restore 2 is pretty good. Also, I think these colors have the most well-rounded power band through the whole curve. Thanks for the video!
@BadatBoardgames7 күн бұрын
Been hoping for this was looking to try Bosk but needed a place to start thanks.
@LangeBroeck7 күн бұрын
Awesome deck! I was working on something similar but a little more tempo/midrange. What changes would you make to make it more tempo/midrange?
@Thorrk_THT7 күн бұрын
more units less ramp less late game unit more surprise strike :)
@tc48928 күн бұрын
I want to say this is looking great. I’ve been playing your Vader Green deck to great effect at my locals. But as you mentioned in this video, there are definitely times where I get blown out by control so I’m going to tinker with this version as a backup - I love red / green villainy too much!
@AlphaMike2k8 күн бұрын
Lol Rinse and repeat for every red green deck
@Slackerman928 күн бұрын
have you played at all with bossk blue hard control? claiming the healing bounties from the client and top target can be massive swings to get through aggro. I've personally found it to be the best bossk shell but that might me more of a testament to how good hard control is than anything.
@Thorrk_THT7 күн бұрын
@@Slackerman92 got to admit I didn't try that so maybe you're right
@Slackerman926 күн бұрын
@@Thorrk_THT would be cool to see what you think if you do try it. Love your videos! Keep up the good work
@AmbroiseLabelle4 күн бұрын
In my opinion hard control is not good. It auto looses to many sideboard cards such as hand disruption or Relentless...
@Lasssska8 күн бұрын
Another great deck tech video, thanks. Qira when :D
@brycestevenson61438 күн бұрын
Nervous about Force Choke not being able to take out Landspeeder, but sick deck!
@ezmacnsteeze8 күн бұрын
bossk ability can take it out, so you dont need to force choke it (and don't need to use any card for that matter)
@Thorrk_THT8 күн бұрын
You do not want to use any card to defeat landspeeder, ever, just use bossk ping.
@brycestevenson61438 күн бұрын
@@Thorrk_THT Great point, thank you!
@terrorshard29168 күн бұрын
Do a moff gideon deck next
@Basechopper-g5m8 күн бұрын
I have a Moff Gideon video in my chanel :p It's in Spanish though, but you can see the deck if you want, it's very strong
@terrorshard29168 күн бұрын
@@Basechopper-g5m what would it look like if it wasn't a budget deck?
@Wosho19828 күн бұрын
I was jjst thinking about Bossk, thx for the ideas for start :) No heal/restore before walker? Jumping heal? Star viper?
@Wosho19828 күн бұрын
No dengar? not enough bounties?
@Thorrk_THT8 күн бұрын
@@Wosho1982 yes not enough bounty for dengar, I don't even think dengar is that good in general. 30 hp base plus the cheer amount of removal should make it so healing is no so needed but maybe it is in which case maybe Yualren would be the pick.