Sadly I agree. It's too far gone now.

I agree 100%. Nothing seems to be being done to preserve it. I recently watched a video on here where a group of urban explorers gained access to it, much to the annoyance of Antony Rowley, and it’s full of rubbish and in a terrible state. What’s the point of an appreciation society that’s doing nothing to look after it? I’m sure there would be countless volunteers who would be more than willing to help out.

@@luciferbox5577 yes, the one where he came out and wanted to actually physically fight the young boys. With that sort of attitude,not only has he made me want to batter him for being a bully, he has literally condemned that landmark to rot and return to the earth because nobody in a local council will ever give the likes of him the time of day, which makes me wonder about wether Rowley the elder was also the kind of ignoramus who rubbed people up the wrong way? Like father like son springs to mind. Bears thinking about. As you so rightly point out, there's nothing done to preserve it properly, it's existence since it was shut down has been one of decay and vandalism, even organised vandalism at one point when they let some supposed artists graffiti all over it. That broke my heart honestly. The way it looks today is no better. Someone reasonable and approachable with the sense and manners to actually speak to people official and otherwise, needs to organise a proper preservation effort before it's too late, take in volunteers , actually show that the ship matters, give it proper publicity instead of just endless crap drone footage. Clean out the rubbish should be first and foremost, then get some rust repaired and a proper paint job. Take it from there, start appealing for donations in both voluntary labour and materials, I'd donate , if people donated their time,cans of paint, sandpaper, tools etc , the ships future would be a bit more assured, but rowley has to be gagged and kept from bullying anyone else, he is detrimental to the dukes future.

" ...actually show that the ship matters, give it proper publicity instead of just endless crap drone footage" Just want to point out that this is exactly why we contacted them to film the ship, and interview people at the ship (and not just drone it). The effort took a good while to organise, but we live in another part of North Wales, could only afford a day, and were not allowed to see inside her. So, a lot of this detail is very new to us. We do have footage from walking on the deck, but it was shaky and unusable. Perhaps we'll upload it unlisted. At least this video has people talking about the ship, which is what we hoped would happen. Personally we think the ship is an asset, and should be restored, but it's not up to us either, of course. We think she's fantastic.

@@NorthWalesBoatsandPlanes the ship is very much an asset yes you're right, but if ten men Rowley wasn't such a little bully boy maybe more people would want to help, after seeing the way he attacked those young boys I want to kick his face in, looking at him you can see why nobody in an official capacity will deal with him, and he's the reason why the ship is condemned to to rot. I'm surprised and glad he didn't attack you to be honest. Looking at him and the huge attitude problem he has l wonder if his dad was as bad and rubbed people the wrong way as well back in the day. If he's so emotionally invested in the ship why is he not clearing out all the rubbish? Is he too busy drinking frosty jacks, smoking roll ups and finding really really tight jumpers to wear? Why is he not asking for volunteers to help him? Why are you not asking for volunteers? I bet lots of people would love to pick up a paint brush or a hammer and nails, I'm a former mechanic l definitely would like to help. I'm without car at the moment, but when I get my new car I'm going down there , I'm going to have a word with mighty mouse there, the choice is his, he can try bully me in which case hes going to have a very bad day or he can listen to some sensible ideas on how to actually move forward and do something instead of playing the spoilt child. Appreciation societies are actually supposed to do something, so go do something, clean out the boxes of shit or sweep up, replace some broken windows . otherwise you're not an appreciation society youre just a fan club. I personally am taking down a load of sheets of plexiglass when l go to offer him for patching up windows after l finish kicking him up and down for my own personal amusement

@@NorthWalesBoatsandPlanes when he attacked those young kids, he could have handled that so much better, he had the choice to either educate them and take the time to speak with them and act like a grown up, or If he was so butt Hurt about it he could have phoned the dibble and done them properly. Either way would have been better than acting like a thug and a bully, they were no threat to him, they were just kids, there wasn't a full set of pubes between them, so why act the way he did. ? I wonder if he'd pick on a grown man the same way ? And l wonder if he would still be that brave without his minimum wage hi Viz numpty to back him up?

Yes, easily. The T1 was more than capable of carrying Sidewinder air-to-air missiles in addition to a 30mm ADEN cannon gun pod (BAE Systems). I doubt the T2 is any different.

Oh really, wow. That's great information, thanks for commenting.

Thanks :)

Aye. As you can see, the thumbnail was changed a good while ago, but the title seems to have slipped our attention. I will sort that now.

Thanks very much!

Thanks so much. Apologies, we didn't see this comment come in.

@@NorthWalesBoatsandPlanes No worries 👍

Merci beaucoup. Nous avons de nombreux favoris, mais les F-35, le bateau de croisière aux voiles énormes, l'interview du navire Prince Madog, les hélicoptères Puma et l'exercice Caméléon étaient excellents. Merci pour votre aide. Thank you very much. We have many favourites, but the F-35s, the cruise ship with huge sails, the Prince Madog ship interview, Puma helicopters and Exercise, Chameleon were excellent. Thanks for your support.

Thank you Dimi, much appreciated 👍 😎

Thanks a lot!

They really are. A short display this time due to the cloud level, but still very cool!

Yes indeed!

Hiya, we used a Canon Power shot, but I cannot remember which one, and then a DJI Mini 2 (fully insured).

Yes, definitely. It was way bigger than we expected (having never seen it one before), and it almost floated around. Really made my day, this one.

Thank you, and yes it's quite the amazing aircraft, this one.

Thanks 👍

Thanks very much, going into year three it's likely to be more aviation than marine over winter, but we'll do our best :)

Thank you 👍, yes, about as well as can be hoped for. You well?

Thanks a lot, it's been a hectic, but fun year. Onto the third. :)

Thanks for the support. Emma.

Thanks so much Dimi, it's not our usual style, but once a year is allowed I guess :)

Thanks :)