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@JaiPandit1989
@JaiPandit1989 2 сағат бұрын
Good, but fast video. Nobody could understand it without landing here seeing 100 other videos. ie Its an advanced video
@HerbertTowers
@HerbertTowers 7 сағат бұрын
Wrong again. Ignore this man.
@HerbertTowers
@HerbertTowers 8 сағат бұрын
Wrong again.
@HerbertTowers
@HerbertTowers 8 сағат бұрын
"The WIND" over the tail. This is classic stuff. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. This guy sounds convincing but talks about 50% bullpoop. If you're a decent pilot have a giggle. If you're looking for top tips IGNORE him. I dearly hope that he doesn't do any instruction.
@HerbertTowers
@HerbertTowers 8 сағат бұрын
This post should be taken down. What he's advocating is positively dangerous.
@HerbertTowers
@HerbertTowers 8 сағат бұрын
Very bad technique.
@johnparrott4689
@johnparrott4689 17 сағат бұрын
20k+ hour airline check captain here. To be fair, the whole video is 'cringe' and spreading bullshit. I'm sure you mean well, but for the love of the FSM please stop. Ask youeeelf a question, pitch-for-speed geniuses, what do autothrottles control on an approach? Here's a hint, it's not the f*cking glide path. You're at 50 feet on a visual approach and lose 10 knots in shear at 666.000 pounds in a B747-400. Pitch to regain that speed - DON'T TOUCH THOSE THROTTLES!!1 -and let me know how the rug dance in front of your chief pilot goes when you put the gear through the wings and nose bulkhead. This works the same in ANY airplane! You CANNOT fly an ILS or any other kind of stabilized approach in an airplane 'pitching for speed'! And FFS stop with the 'full stall' crap! Though TBF this would explain why almost every Cessna left flying has had its firewall crumpled by clowns attempting to do just that. Cue idiots attempting to refute this - fine, you're just giving my 'delete' key a workout. Talk to Boeing and Airbus while you're at it and let them know they're doing it wrong.
@yvesbajulaz
@yvesbajulaz Күн бұрын
is this pitch for airspeed ever gonna go away...??? biggest disservice you can do to students... pitch for glidepath, power for speed, just like all the autopilots work, so you can interact with them. As for full stall landing in a tricycle gear, if it was stalled, the nose would drop and you couldn't hold it up... This video is absolutely awful and spreading bad info.
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 20 сағат бұрын
Of course pitching for airspeed isn't going away. It's a critical skill for all phases of flight where power is fixed - including takeoff and simulated engine failure. And no the nose isn't going to drop when you stall the airplane 6 inches above the ground, because the main wheels touch long before that happens.
@johnparrott4689
@johnparrott4689 18 сағат бұрын
He's taking about approach, not takeoff/climb
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 17 сағат бұрын
@@johnparrott4689 Well its not going away there either because many of us would prefer our fresh solo students be better prepared to dead stick a landing onto a grass field than program an autopilot.
@yvesbajulaz
@yvesbajulaz 17 сағат бұрын
@@chapmanflying7632 when they are low over grapestakes or trees on final and getting slow, you teach them to pitch down?? 😂
@yvesbajulaz
@yvesbajulaz 17 сағат бұрын
@@chapmanflying7632 you only pitch for airspeed when the power is fixed. On a normal approach the power is not fixed.
@Pete856
@Pete856 Күн бұрын
This is all fine in light winds, but in a stiff breeze you'll quickly find yourself in trouble when you stall too high because the wind dropped.
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 21 сағат бұрын
That doesn't make sense. The full stall technique works even better in strong winds because gusts are less likely to lift you back into the air after touchdown.
@Pete856
@Pete856 12 сағат бұрын
@@chapmanflying7632 Assuming you manage to touchdown in gusty conditions and you're in full flap nose high configuration, what happens if at that very moment you get hit by a gust? If you don't know, you shouldn't be making videos.
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 11 сағат бұрын
​@@Pete856 enjoy your day Pete. Bummer that the video offended you for some reason.
@jimbobsterful
@jimbobsterful Күн бұрын
I'm afraid I would disagree with much of this video, most notably 'pitch for speed and elevator for glidepath". For 3 reasons: 1. It destabilises the approach. 2. You lose control of the touchdown point, rendering your landing performance calculation unusable 3. You cannot use this technique in higher performance aircraft. (see point 1). And please don't stall the aircraft onto the runway. read the landing technique described in the POH. I've instructed on fighters, B747s and light aircraft for 35 years.
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 17 сағат бұрын
Appreciate the respectful reply but all 3 of your points assume that the pilot changes only one variable and not the other. Stabilized flight, whether descending or straight+level, require managing both pitch and power together. You can assign either one as primary for either purpose in your head, the plane will never know - I prefer students to learn pitch for airspeed for several reasons. Zero consequence to the stability of the approach.
@jaromirandel543
@jaromirandel543 2 күн бұрын
I thought that you should not use ailerons at near stall speeds. You may enter assymetric stall.
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 2 күн бұрын
Nah you're much too close to the ground (hopefully!) for the aircraft to spin, or even start thinking about it. It takes a few seconds for the entire wing to stall, and by that time the plane is comfortably settled onto the runway.
@Michael-iw3ek
@Michael-iw3ek 3 күн бұрын
Someone's been reading "stick and rudder!"
@michaanonym
@michaanonym 7 күн бұрын
would you handle big planes (like boeing and airbus) in the same way?
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 2 күн бұрын
No. The full stall technique shouldn't be used on airplanes like that, and also a decent number of make/models in the GA fleet, because a tail-strike is a real possibility. But it works just fine in C172s and all the other basic trainers I've had the pleasure of flying.
@k2sm84
@k2sm84 9 күн бұрын
This video is Valuable to the max
@ziukh3164
@ziukh3164 14 күн бұрын
That was slick! Good job man.
@Gualdemar
@Gualdemar 18 күн бұрын
Sorry, didn't like it. Firstly, no stall should be involved. You should touch with minimus airspeed BUT still flying. Secondly, you should be established on a final of AT LEAST 300 ft AGL with power at IDLE (ideally power should be at idle from your turn from base to final and keep it that way until touchdown). If on the first attempt you are short, on the next one turn closer to the runway and use GROUND reference to adjust.. It will come all together with practice. AND use flaps as much or as little as you want.
@SuprSBG
@SuprSBG 23 күн бұрын
As someone interested in being a pilot with limited piloted experience from summer camps I really like this video- although long term I don’t think I’ll be able to get a license any time soon because I have ADHD meds and the FAA doesn’t like that.
@Coops777
@Coops777 24 күн бұрын
Well done on packing so much good information into one short video - I loved it! I agree with everything except for your recommending using elevator for speed, especially so close to the ground. (The speed should already be set by trim and throttle setting during base turn.) In our flight school, we teach elevator for attitude and power for aspect and speed adjustment when on finals. We use the same method as airliners - Maintain the glideslope with power and pitch the nose with elevator. Earlier in the final approach, the elevator can be used momentarily to raise or lower the nose to adjust speed. But from that point onward, once correct aimpoint, glideslope aspect and airspeed are attained, they are managed with power for arresting sink (recatching the glideslope), or flaps/sideslip for excessive height. The elevator is used to maintain aimpoint (but may have to be adjusted slightly due to power applications where needed in order to keep that aimpoint). Power to idle for transition (or earlier) and elevator to arrest sink during the flare till stall. I hope you dont mind my five cents worth - This is one of the best landing videos Ive ever seen.
@ATOMEK2025
@ATOMEK2025 23 күн бұрын
Tell this to any pilot who flies aircraft with auto throttle and they will smile-AP is using throttle to control speed and elevator is used to control pitch.Even when hand flying, during ILS or RNAV APP a bug is kept centered using elevator first (then throttle is used to help maintain constant speed) this allows for a very precise control. When hand flying throttle and elevator are simultaneously used to be on a specific glide path anyway. I think, this subject is controversial like deciding how a lift is created-Bernoulli vs Newton vs…..
@Coops777
@Coops777 23 күн бұрын
@ATOMEK2025 Thanks for your reply. Great points you make. Yes I agree its a contraversial one. I think we use the airliner method just to keep things standardised. My CFI learned in the airforce who taught this way. I think it might be a touch easier for a student to understand than playing with power and elevator hoping to get it right. Its a scary world making one of your first landings, trying to put into practice that stuff you learned in the theory brief while battling a highly dynamic final glide environment
@bombud1
@bombud1 24 күн бұрын
It's a flare, not a roundout.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 27 күн бұрын
"no clip reference" - shouldn't this be "clip reference: i [as in Chapman Flying] took them all"?
@Weezerfier
@Weezerfier 27 күн бұрын
if you have flown planes in GTA san andreas you can do this.
@CS_247
@CS_247 29 күн бұрын
Taildragger landing.
@MrWigglesWorth
@MrWigglesWorth Ай бұрын
1:38 - One thing to keep in mind at this stage is a strong enough headwind gust can absolutely pop you back up into the air. Probably the second scariest moment I ever had in an airplane was a very extreme case of this. Stall buzzer going off as I'm just a few feet above the runway about to touchdown, then suddenly I could hear and "feel" the wind gust hard, I see the airspeed jump up, the stall buzzer stops, and I pop 20 or so feet into the air. Before I even have time to react to this, the wind just dies, the airspeed drops, the stall buzzer comes back on, and I slam down hard into the runway.
@nelsonoro4
@nelsonoro4 Ай бұрын
Very clear and helpful
@raysnoddy8875
@raysnoddy8875 Ай бұрын
Heavy landings
@raysnoddy8875
@raysnoddy8875 Ай бұрын
Heavy stall landings
@apennameandthata2017
@apennameandthata2017 Ай бұрын
SUPERB VIDEO
@fransvandenheever8387
@fransvandenheever8387 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much sir, it helps me a lot. God bless.
@andremarais2706
@andremarais2706 Ай бұрын
Cessna 172. What else? For the pterodactyl afficionados, no other aircraft exist. Trained on one, always fly one, regardless of the exciting aircraft out there.
@housseinayash1649
@housseinayash1649 Ай бұрын
Amazing
@thesuitedsaltshaker8388
@thesuitedsaltshaker8388 Ай бұрын
Love the content, please upload when you can
@rupunnb1458
@rupunnb1458 Ай бұрын
@chapmanflying7632 Thanks, great video! One question: What does it mean ""The Centre of Gravity range of most aircraft reduces as the aircraft mass increases". What does "reduces" mean in this context please? Does it mean move forward OR move aft?"
@rupunnb1458
@rupunnb1458 Ай бұрын
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@speedomars3869
@speedomars3869 Ай бұрын
No such thing as a full stall landing. The goal in landing is to fly to plane over the runway until it runs out of energy and sets down, still generating some lift on the wings. A full stall would require the exceeding the critical angle of attack and that would result in a tail strike.
@colinescue
@colinescue Ай бұрын
1:30 Never heard mush used in that context, not sure it fits…other than that great video
@rapinncapin123
@rapinncapin123 Ай бұрын
Wow, what a video
@stephenalexander6033
@stephenalexander6033 Ай бұрын
The fallacy of this is unless you are flying a Breezy or ilk, you can’t accurately judge how far the wheels are off the ground since you can’t see the wheels and the distance off the runway. So you either stall high and plonk or flare late and bounce. Better to flare a bit high and nearly arrest descent with no power and try to keep the plane flying by gently increasing the angle of attack. The nose will be high as the plane settles, even if not in a full stall. Gently keep pulling back as if still “flying” to allow the nose to gently settle.
@randallmacdonald4851
@randallmacdonald4851 Ай бұрын
I've never had a single lesson in flying. I fly a couple of flight sims (DCS and FS2020) and, for civilian aircraft, I land exactly as this video explains. A Navy (aircraft carrier) landing is quite different so I won't discuss this. The full stall landing is perfect for non-military landings. Thank you for the video.
@davidchalcogayona7261
@davidchalcogayona7261 Ай бұрын
Amazing! Great explanation.
@lw216316
@lw216316 Ай бұрын
Did not know the terminolgy but learned by experience to do this with my remote control airplane flying. One thing I do different with rc airplanes - at least for tricycle gear like in this video - right before touchdown I release the elevator to neutral to level the plane. If I don't do this and it hits the back wheels first then the plane usually starts a bunny hop. If I'm flying tail wheel planes then instead of releasing the elevator to neutral right before touchdown, I pull the elevator full back and pin the tail to the ground. This seems to help prevent ground loops. I don't know if this is technically correct but it works for me. Also, maybe there are some differences between rc planes and full scale (pilot in cockpit) airplanes.
@AlexVidrov
@AlexVidrov 2 ай бұрын
Is pulling back to the stops required ? I thought you could bring it above the horizon and stall.
@ronoconnor8971
@ronoconnor8971 2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed short field and soft field takeoffs better. Accelerated stalls were fun too. Pilots need to practice stalls so they can feel when they enter one in all phases of flight
@TheRealKalEll
@TheRealKalEll 2 ай бұрын
Flare
@user-ru5be4iy9t
@user-ru5be4iy9t 2 ай бұрын
You can also use flaps to dump the lift. We used to practice landing on the numbers and stopping before the end of the numbers.
@nickgoodall578
@nickgoodall578 2 ай бұрын
Noooow I can land an airliner. 😆
@melclark1066
@melclark1066 2 ай бұрын
Wish this was explained so clearly when I was learning to fly. Simple, easy, and very clear - great explanation, thank you.😀
@Doc.Holiday
@Doc.Holiday 2 ай бұрын
Ground Effect is a key component that deserved explanation…
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 2 ай бұрын
Fair point. Would have been nice to at least get a mention in. Oh well. Wasn't expecting quite as much visibility when I posted it.
@Doc.Holiday
@Doc.Holiday 2 ай бұрын
@@chapmanflying7632 … you did a great job. Wish I had this kind of visual when I was learning. I’m 70.
@barrywinslow9798
@barrywinslow9798 2 ай бұрын
Yes Sir....that's how I learned. Real tire "rollers"in a Cessna 150 with 40* of flaps. I had a great instructor. Our field was 33' wide, 3000" long tucked in tree lines. I'd go over to "huge field" with a 120' wide 6000' long to practice crosswind. Man, I could land and takeoff 3times...LOL Good vid, thanks
@maxasaurus3008
@maxasaurus3008 2 ай бұрын
Ok! Who wants to let me try?
@mikeonb4c
@mikeonb4c 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Don't the tailplane/elevators generate aerodynamic braking too when held full back?
@chapmanflying7632
@chapmanflying7632 2 ай бұрын
Yes anywhere there's lift (positive or negative), there's also drag. But my completely uninformed guess would be that elevator-drag is not a large percent of the stopping force.
@user-ez9vp7sh7b
@user-ez9vp7sh7b 2 ай бұрын
Amazing