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@rc-fannl7364 19 сағат бұрын
What protocol does this use on the hobby grade tx? Maybe you can share your model file?
@GroundControlRC 12 сағат бұрын
It uses Protocol V761 / 4CH I'll be publishing My Setup File soon which will provide all the info needed. Here is the Playlist: kzfaq.info/sun/PL_YiEhY7O1WYq5AsillQZn5yBDZnQOyDx I go over a lot of the specs and details of this plane in the "1st Look" video.
@jonoedwards4195 Күн бұрын
Great stuff! Unreal Toy. Beauty GCRC.
@GroundControlRC Күн бұрын
Thanks Jono! I'm absolutely having a blast with this plane. I didn't think a 500mm would fly this well.
@davescott9409 Күн бұрын
I too would like to see a lineup of larger, but still sub 250 gram, warbirds. I would think 650mm to 700 mm would be doable. Make them out of EPP, brushless, 3 cell, with a gyro that can be turned off. I couldn't find a larger sub 250g P-51, so I bought the Volantex 750mm and am in the process of lightening it. With a 2S 300 mah battery and no landing gear, it will be close but looks possible. I've got a long list of lightening mods I'm working my way through. It turns out the ESC was listed as 10 amps, but it's really 20 amps and 17 grams. I'm going to look for a lighter 12 amp ESC.
@GroundControlRC Күн бұрын
Good luck on your project. That 750mm P51 is a great flying warbird.
@davescott9409 Күн бұрын
How much does it weigh with the landing gear on and stock battery in it?
@GroundControlRC Күн бұрын
The AUW is 118.5g
@joelfildes5544 Күн бұрын
Do you rate this better than the XK180 ?
@jonoedwards4195 Күн бұрын
10x Better!
@GroundControlRC Күн бұрын
Yes. I think this plane, as it is stock, is a better flying and better performing plane.
@keunglo2614 Күн бұрын
any range test, meet 4km by r8
@GroundControlRC Күн бұрын
No, as I fly close proximity.
@MichalDziedzic-fq7xv 2 күн бұрын
Hi, which plane do you think is better eachine p51 500mm or xk a280 p51?
@GroundControlRC 2 күн бұрын
After getting approx. 16 flight on this one and getting it all tuned I prefer the way this one flies. I fly it in Manual Mode with a Hobby-Grade TX and it flies like a much bigger plane. The XK A280 is a great flying P51D but the Gyro is always active. It depends on how you like to fly as to which one you will enjoy the most but this one handles awesome in Manual Mode ;-)
@fullrunthrough6732 3 күн бұрын
What size/type motor?
@GroundControlRC 3 күн бұрын
You can get the BNF Kit which comes with an included 1106 3800kv motor if I remember correctly. The BNF Kit is what I had. I didn't think the stock motor provided enough power so I'd go with something around a 1206 4000kv motor.
@MrDLRu 3 күн бұрын
That coupon code now works..Thanks! Mine is on its way. Really like the 500mm size.
@GroundControlRC 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support! It's awesome and you're going to have a blast with it. See you in the Air!
@B_e_a_n_45 3 күн бұрын
You might’ve already mentioned this, but I’m wondering what 3S LiPo you’re using. Thanks!
@GroundControlRC 3 күн бұрын
I use a Tattu 3S 650mah 75C LIPO that has an XT30 Connector. I use an XT30 to JST Adapter Tattu 3S 650mAh 75C Lipo with XT30 Plug: amzn.to/43OZkTn 3pcs XT30 / XT-30 Male to JST Adapter: amzn.to/3IBPomY
@B_e_a_n_45 3 күн бұрын
@@GroundControlRC Nice. Thank you!
@user-ig3xr6yu1l 4 күн бұрын
Maybe 4-channel gliders with ailerons for beginners are more stable horizontally thanks to the gyro than 3-channel birds with rudder control? And what do you think, is this bird (in beginner mode) a solid park flyer even in a bit of wind? I am afraid of flying in wind, especially in turbulence
@GroundControlRC 3 күн бұрын
Yes, I would say it can handle a 10mph (16kph) wind just fine, I've had (2) kids in the Family ages 7 & 10 fly it in 6-8mph wind and they did just fine. It was their first time flying an RC Plane ;-) Any more than a 10mph wind would make make it difficult for the motor to fly back against the wind. It's the best beginner plane I've flown.
@LeanderVanhulle 4 күн бұрын
I've seen in your video's that you have wing protectors. Do you have a link to these?
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
Yes, here are links to (2) different types. 20 Pcs Nylon Control Horn Wing Tip Protector s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDggpRT 10 Pcs Nylon Control Horn Wing Tip Protector s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBxDrKt
@mitchsterling3266 4 күн бұрын
That is a sweet looking aircraft I don't want you to ruin it and make it not fly but if you get some Automotive grade clear clear coat in a can from Advance or O'Reilly's and coat the f o a m with it it may act like armor for your plane especially out there in God knows what like a cactus or something could hit your plane
@mitchsterling3266 4 күн бұрын
If you do it and it causes some trouble to the motor you can just use some two-stroke motor oil and spray it off with some water or WD-40 b u t I assume you would mask that off before painting it. Clear c o a t also goes great inside of shoes and on top of flip flops and you can use it on a ton of other stuff in your house and on your car
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, I've had to pull cactus needles out of foam before....not fun ;-)
@pierre-marcelgoral8381 4 күн бұрын
Hi Tony, I just maidened mine (in the Volantex livery) four days ago and flew it again the day after. I use the stock TX and as I expected, once trimmed this aircraft can be flown in expert mode for lenghty amounts of time. It's more stable than the 400mm, and stil outperforms them in everything but time in the air. I can't wait for the others 400mm to appear in that new form. 😁👍 Best regards, and see you in the air. 😊
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
Yes, I hope they come out with a full line of these. I was surprised at how well this performed in manual mode ;-) I'm glad you got one as I think they'll be in short supply soon ;-) See you in the Air!
@nickmoloney9820 4 күн бұрын
Hi Tony how does it compare to the AX-280 it looks very cool in full manual flight. Great video as always.
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
@@nickmoloney9820 Thanks Nick! I actually like the way this one flies in Manual Mode better than the XK A280 flies in 3D Mode. They both fly great in fully stabilized mode but I don't care for the Intermediate Mode. I think this one also has better performance and flight time out of the box. One of the easiest to get flying the way I like. This is based on using a Hobby-Grade TX. It's been so long since I flew the A280 with the included TX I can't even remember what that was like ;-)
@mcemtpockets1775 4 күн бұрын
That tx is worth it. Gotta save up😊
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
The best piece of RC equipment I have is this TX.
@mcemtpockets1775 4 күн бұрын
Great explanations...free education😊 thank you
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@cccagley5276 4 күн бұрын
The Banggod link appears to be this plane. Why do they only describe 1S power?
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
Looks like marketing dropped the ball ;-)
@andyzolapinz8945 4 күн бұрын
Are you located in New Mexico or Arizona? That terrain looks very familiar
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
New Mexico.
@jonoedwards4195 4 күн бұрын
I dig My Eachine Mustang! These Micros are so much Fun. Great review GCRC.
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
Thanks Jono! I can't believe how well this one handled in Manual Mode ;-)
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
I've posted these flights in a different order from which they were performed. I wanted to show the power, stability, and handling with a Hobby-Grade TX first. This is so much better than the 400mm Warbirds. It's in a completely different class in my Opinion. Save Money with My Link & Code |Link: ban.ggood.vip/151SW | Coupon Code: BGd973a4
@GroundControlRC 5 күн бұрын
I've posted these flights in a different order from which they were performed. I wanted to show the power, stability, and handling with a Hobby-Grade TX first. This is so much better than the 400mm Warbirds. It's in a completely different class in my Opinion. Save Money with My Link & Code |Link: ban.ggood.vip/151SW | Coupon Code: BGd973a4
@michaelhoward4402 5 күн бұрын
Great review as always bro. Have these jets been rebranded as AF because I see the identical jet sold as AF now instead of Eachine, I've seen these cross overs before. I only ask because I'm considering getting the AF branded one, cheers 👍🏼
@GroundControlRC 5 күн бұрын
Thank You Much! I'm not sure, the Hobby King F16 and F18 looked just like the Eachine branded ones but theirs were 4S capable out of the box and the Eachine branded ones were only 3S capable out of the box. These 50mm EDF Jets really need 4S to perform extremely well IMO. This one was a Kit so I could put my own stuff in it. This F18 never had a locked-in feel like the F16. The F16 I have is the PNF.
@michaelhoward4402 5 күн бұрын
I also saw the hobbyking one advertised as 4s capable but when you got to the specifications it has the same 30 amp esc with bec identical power system. Now I know this esc and know its capable of handling 4s at 10 second bursts at full throttle only. 30 amp with bec. Similar to the ones Arrows use that have no issue with 4s and advertised as 3s only. So what gives 😂 i think they are the same Jet. Eachine AF model and Hobbyking. All have identical specifications and fuselage colour scheme everything 😅
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
@@michaelhoward4402 Hum...I put a 40A ESC in mine for 4S as, if I remember correctly, it was pulling 34A at full throttle with that motor and EDF unit. They're cutting it very close with a 30A ESC.
@michaelhoward4402 4 күн бұрын
Of the arrows hobby brand in particular not one has had a burn out on 4s mind you, but definitely under the manufacturing specifications it says for the Predator 30 amp with 2 bec, 4s can be used with max throttle bursts of 10 seconds only. I have same esc in my banana hobby f22 50mm which is a great flyer I might add.
@michaelhoward4402 4 күн бұрын
The arrows use another esc i think with 3 bec but yes definitely pushing the envelope.
@Relaxxmannn 5 күн бұрын
The button in the right is for stunts I saw it makes it more responsive end what you been feeling twitchy maybe that was your issue
@GroundControlRC 5 күн бұрын
It was just to responsive for me with the default linkage setup. I had it in fully stabilized mode and in low rates and it was just too responsive. My latest flights are on 3S with the linkage setup properly for me and it flies fantastic even in manual mode.
@dnacannotchangetruthhelp 7 күн бұрын
..... Mine doesn't fly correctly with a ducted fan..... temu clone.....
@GroundControlRC 7 күн бұрын
That's a shame. The Z84 is one of the best wings I've flown. I think you can still get the kits but it doesn't seem the PNF are available anymore.
@DrMercenary 7 күн бұрын
IF YOU PUT ON C127 PROPPELER YOU SEE HOW FAST GOS
@GroundControlRC 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for that info.
@rafaeltorres2886 9 күн бұрын
Great flight, excellent skill. 😊
@GroundControlRC 9 күн бұрын
Thank You!
@stevejones6294 10 күн бұрын
Why you using Throttle hold instead of Throttle cut. Throttle hold is for helicopter
@GroundControlRC 10 күн бұрын
Because the throttle cut was not going to provide me the desired result. Here is what the manual states: Throttle Cut: This function cannot be triggered when the throttle is high to prevent any mis-operation. It appears many of these functions are designed specifically for Nitro Planes, not Electric Planes. Using the Throttle Hold provides me with a way to Cut the Motor no matter the Throttle Setting ;-) You could also just setup a function mapped to a switch to do the same thing but this was easier.
@rodrigoc6170 11 күн бұрын
Do you know which protocol to use for this model?
@GroundControlRC 11 күн бұрын
I found a post that stated it uses Protocol MT99XX and Sub-protocol F949G I've converted mine so I never tried that Protocol.
@rodrigoc6170 11 күн бұрын
Many thanks for the prompt reply!!, indeed it works with the MT99XX and Sub-protocol F949G, LED on CH7 and High Speed on CH6
@GroundControlRC 11 күн бұрын
@@rodrigoc6170 You are most welcome. I don't know about the lights as the ones I have that have lights can't be controlled via my TX16S.
@jayilagan6228 13 күн бұрын
What transmitter are you using?
@GroundControlRC 13 күн бұрын
I'm using the RadioMaster TX16S.
@mcemtpockets1775 13 күн бұрын
Looking good❤😊
@GroundControlRC 13 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@wumfi 14 күн бұрын
Hi there. Sorry to comment on an old video, but just wanted to ask about the channel numbers for the switches on a multi protocol radio (3D/6G and dual rates). I can seem to find the screenshots that you refer to in the video. If it helps you at all also, you can control the lights on CH9. It’s a momentary that toggles between on/flashing/off. Thanks for the great video series!
@GroundControlRC 14 күн бұрын
Thanks! The screenshot of OpenTX Companion are in the later part of the video. If I remember correctly, the DR is on CH6 and the Gyro Modes are on CH7.
@wumfi 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. I actually managed to find the settings on the protocol page of the MM GitHub! I’ve done mine as logical switches that override the channel settings, rather than as a mixer item. That way I have switch up/not switch up as the 2 settings.
@scorpius2501 2 күн бұрын
How did you get this to work? I set up momentary switch with CH9 going from -100 to +100 and the lights stay on.
@wumfi 2 күн бұрын
@@scorpius2501Actually, it worked fine that way on my Jumper T-Lite, but I cannot seem to get it working on the TX16S. I’m actually thinking that by doing it as a mix, the receiver sees a transition rather than a toggle. Try using a special function to toggle CH9 high/low. My health hasn’t been kind enough to allow flying for a while so I’ve not even done a maiden yet! If and when I figure it out, then I’ll reply again!
@user-yy1lp2te8b 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video and instructions. I just finished putting mine together, I cant wait to take it out tomorrow. Thank you!
@GroundControlRC 14 күн бұрын
Great flying micro P51D. Good luck on your Maiden Flight!
@davestrain9529 4 күн бұрын
did the 5 x 7..love that its near Hobby Grade( Instructions terrible ). I Have had FUN!! Drilling ..it..into..the ground. Its a Tough Model. Finally had to get the Hot Glue Gun out. Fun. Thx for recommendation. Will Link to a New TX soon!
@davestrain9529 4 күн бұрын
..and Buy 2 More!
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
@@davestrain9529 I'm glad you like it. One of my favorite Sub-250g planes. That 7x5 prop really increases performance ;-)
@GroundControlRC 4 күн бұрын
@@davestrain9529 If I had a bigger budget ;-)
@JuanMotime-yz5pp 15 күн бұрын
08/07/24 Good video. I learned a lot. Just ordered mine today. I have a few others I fly.
@GroundControlRC 15 күн бұрын
Thank You! It's still my favorite beginner heli.
@jerodlayfield8645 16 күн бұрын
Do like it better than the radiomaster?
@GroundControlRC 15 күн бұрын
It's hard to quantify between the two. Some of the features on this one are a bit better than my TX16S. Some of the features on the TX16S are really good like OpenTX Companion. I think it depends on the type of TX you're used to using.
@RedSkyViews 16 күн бұрын
Battery?
@GroundControlRC 16 күн бұрын
I use this 3S LIPO. Tattu 3S 650mAh 75C Lipo with XT30 Plug amzn.to/43OZkTn
@RedSkyViews 16 күн бұрын
@@GroundControlRC thanks so much do you know how much they last?
@GroundControlRC 16 күн бұрын
@@RedSkyViews Depending on how hard I fly, 6-7 minutes.
@mcemtpockets1775 19 күн бұрын
Super fun... it will dump over at full speed. But easy to recover. Soo fun in the wind
@GroundControlRC 19 күн бұрын
I agree! I think this might be the most fun I've had with a 3CH Plane. I just converted mine to 4CH with a Brushless Pusher Motor & Prop! It's such a good airframe I couldn't resist ;-) Flights are coming soon and I think it's going to turn out to be a great flying conversion.
@mcemtpockets1775 19 күн бұрын
@@GroundControlRC I was thinking of it. Kinda flys sideways a small amount all the time. i think i may have damaged a wing because one side is loose no matter how tite i get the screw. But its hard for me too count to four and chew gum at the same time. before I jump to bigger and better sub250 and above. i want a better controller. The factory controllers are stick sometimes so thats my excuse on crashing. 🙃
@GroundControlRC 19 күн бұрын
I don't provide my OpenTX Model Files anymore as I've just had to field too many questions regarding Model Files. I now provide my Setup as a PDF File, for most of my aircraft, that provides all the information needed to setup the aircraft on any Programmable Transmitter. Setup Files I do provide will be published on TinkerzLab: www.youtube.com/@TinkerzLab
@sebaero4109 11 күн бұрын
Hi, great but where are your pdf setup file for this model please ? Thanks in advance
@GroundControlRC 11 күн бұрын
@@sebaero4109 There's no Setup PDF File for this aircraft as there's really nothing to adjust mechanically on these Micro Helis. It's just programming in the TX.
@sebaero4109 10 күн бұрын
@@GroundControlRC Bad news... I really need a PDF file...
@wj625 19 күн бұрын
Any chance you can throw a link to the tx16s profile for this thing? I’ve followed your screen shots but I feel like I’m missing something.
@GroundControlRC 19 күн бұрын
I don't provide my OpenTX Model Files anymore as I've just had to field too many questions regarding the Model File. I now provide my Setup as a PDF File, for most of my aircraft, that provides the information needed to setup the aircraft on any Programmable Transmitter. What do you think you're missing?
@wj625 19 күн бұрын
I followed the screen shots as best I could and it binds up no problem but once I do the OKTL it veers uncontrollably to the left as if I’m putting left Ail. (Maybe I’m mapping it wrong?) Where can I get the pdf? Do you have a Patreon? And I can’t get the emergency stop to work lol luckily I haven’t broken or lost anything yet.
@GroundControlRC 19 күн бұрын
@@wj625 There's no setup PDF file for this one as I performed no adjustments on it just TX programming. Here is a link to the Multi-Module info for the e129 Protocol. www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/protocol-details/e129 The problem might be your channel order as my TX is setup for TAER by default whereas most people use AETR as their default. My guess is you need to change the channel order AETR. I have the Emergency Stop mapped to my Momentary Switch. www.patreon.com/groundcontrolrc
@wj625 19 күн бұрын
@@GroundControlRC that’s probably it my I’m an AETR guy. I’ll try switching them and try again. Thanks.
@GroundControlRC 19 күн бұрын
@@wj625 You are most welcome.
@Jj-sk6dl 20 күн бұрын
Hi there, It’s Jerzy here again. Just to say l looked into the comments on your chat and found the answer to my question which you have already provided to someone else. I connected the plane battery before turning on the transmitter and bingo, all sorted. I had followed the guidance from the instructions which clearly said power up the transmitter first. So many thanks for your advice albeit for someone else. I shall continue to watch your informative channel. Thanks Jerzy
@GroundControlRC 20 күн бұрын
No worries! This is one of my absolute best brushless sub-250g factory plane. I think you're going to have a blast with it. See you in the Air!
@Jj-sk6dl 20 күн бұрын
Hi there, I have watched all your reviews on the FX9706 . I liked them so much that l have purchased one. I’m relatively new to this hobby but can fly other models reasonably well in 6G occasionally flicking to 3G and back. However even though l have the RTF version l can’t seem to bind it to the transmitter. It says in the instructions that it should already be bound at the factory but it’s not working. They provide a comment on how to bind pressing a button somewhere but l can’t find it and not at all sure what they mean. Please can you provide me with details on how to bind this plane to their transmitter please, l would really appreciate your help as currently the plane is grounded. Looking forward to hearing from you Thanks Jerzy
@GroundControlRC 20 күн бұрын
I saw your other comment so I'm glad you were able to bind up. Sometimes the instructions can be confusing or just wrong ;-)
@AndrewNewton 21 күн бұрын
It's a fun little plane, quite unique
@GroundControlRC 21 күн бұрын
Thanks Andrew! Very different indeed ;-) One of my planes that didn't require any MODs.
@jonoedwards4195 21 күн бұрын
Unreal! Great Demo Ace.
@GroundControlRC 21 күн бұрын
Thanks Jono! Great flying plane. I like it ;-)
@sirtrumpington4779 22 күн бұрын
Any more news?
@GroundControlRC 21 күн бұрын
I've had to put my personal projects on hold for a while as I've had a lot of reviews to perform. I want to get one more flight session on this plane to confirm my setup doesn't need any adjusting. Once I confirm my setup I'll put the plans together and publish them to include my setup file. I wish I could provide a time frame but life gets busy and I do this in my not so spare time ;-) I'm glad you're interested in this project.
@mcemtpockets1775 23 күн бұрын
Good conversion
@GroundControlRC 23 күн бұрын
Thanks! That jet was a ton of fun!
@mcemtpockets1775 23 күн бұрын
They are so fun to fly in the wind
@GroundControlRC 23 күн бұрын
Some of these planes are great fun in the wind.
@mcemtpockets1775 23 күн бұрын
Love the plane. Need open space😊
@GroundControlRC 23 күн бұрын
One of the best 3CH planes I've flown.
@RobbyRCPROBE 24 күн бұрын
Good job Tony, great flying and landing!
@GroundControlRC 24 күн бұрын
Thank You Robby! A fun little 3CH plane ;-)
@davidlewis620 24 күн бұрын
Please Tony, do it, convert it!! When you convert yours, I will do mine exactly the same !! I think when converted to brushless they will be fantastic flyers, even more than they already are !
@GroundControlRC 24 күн бұрын
I'm going to attempt it as soon as I have the time as I think it's a great airframe. This is one of the best 3CH planes I've flown.
@davidlewis620 22 күн бұрын
@@GroundControlRC Great,thanx.
@lasersbee 24 күн бұрын
I'm surprised how well it flies in the wind... My 1st order got screwed up... I finally got mine for $35 USD including shipping on Ali. Expected to be delivered tomorrow or the next day
@GroundControlRC 24 күн бұрын
Wow! That is a steal ;-) Yes, for a 3CH plane it's fantastic in the wind. That certainly surprised me since there are no ailerons to keep it level. Much Fun!
@user-xo8pw6ft6m 24 күн бұрын
Does this one have the symptom of doing somersaults on its own like the qidi-560?
@GroundControlRC 24 күн бұрын
This one is actually a very stable airframe and the gyro is well behaved. I did find after having a spiral of death one flight where I got very slow in a turn, it's very tail heavy and needs approx. 6g of nose weight. I have my CG where the struts connect to the wing with a neutral balance and it's very stable with that CG. I had the ESC go bad on mine so I've converted it to a 2S power system ;-) Test flights coming up.