17 races in a season (why so little) and they have to have double header weekends? I’m not a huge Indy fan but I think there’s another one also? Is Detroit a double header or California? Is the sport not popular enough to have more races? F1 is up to 24 and NASCAR Cup is 36 and NASCAR Xfinity is 33. Indy should just be on road courses, no ovals.
@RacingWithChuck273 күн бұрын
You can’t pass unless you’re Ferrucci and also newgarden on Saturday. Overall I agree, waste of money, no fuel savings, non-performance gain, heavy, poor balance = no value
@The52car3 күн бұрын
No disrespect to Ed, but he just wrecked twice in one weekend and his response is controled by his emotions. Heavier IndyCars arent the problem - stock cars weight significantly more and they dont struggle to follow behind one another. Aero dependence is what has hurt IndyCar oval racing. As long as those wings are making so much downforce, you're always gling to struggle with dirty air in the corners.
@cmoore1854 күн бұрын
I have been going to races since the late 1950's. Granted, I haven't been able to see everyone, but occasionally, I have seen young drivers with talent beyond mere mortals. A 15 year old Sammy Swindell, a teenaged Kyle Larson, Corey Day and a young Cristopher Bell. Jesse Love showed early that he could win in open wheel cars before he ran stock cars. Karl Kinser has said many times that you can't really tell how good a driver will be until they get hurt. It is inevitable and you need to look at how they are after the crash. Personally, I think Daison has the same kind of talent as the others that I named. Eventually we all run out of talent, but personally, I think the sky is the limit for him.
@Nick-ji7hb4 күн бұрын
Since the split, Indycar has done a great job on messing up the sport. They start moving in the right direction and once again, take a step backwards.
@GrantMerle5 күн бұрын
hope they figure it out before May 2025
@chrisbullock96525 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more with Ed Carpenter. The hybrid stuff is nonsense. It improves nothing. Makes the car heavier at the rear making the balance difficult. They won't brake as well or handle as well. They are not faster, but they are a lot more complex for the team and the driver. What is the fricking point? They should shit can them and go back to the fantastic engines they had in CART. It has taken years for me to begin watching this series following the destruction of CART, which was in my estimation, the greatest racing series the World. The leadership in this series must have their heads up their asses. They keep going in this direction they will lose me for good!
@The52car3 күн бұрын
No one is interested in building 2.65 liter turbo V8s anymore.
@joshuak43725 күн бұрын
The most expensive 100lbs I’ve ever bolted on my race car.
@evanssego76475 күн бұрын
I love Ed. Hopefully this doesn't make him want to retire.
@jkansas20456 күн бұрын
The most expensive 100 pounds I have ever bolted on my race cars... #truewords
@katamb556 күн бұрын
I believe Ed. Something just isn't right.
@kevinrapp86186 күн бұрын
I agree 1000% with him, my sons and I went to Mid-Ohio, we left with 20 to go because there was no passing on the track, seriously it looked like a stock car race . All single file after lap 10
@HoosierRC6 күн бұрын
He bought two hybrid engines and doesn’t know how much they cost?
@The52car3 күн бұрын
The hybrid is not the engine.
@jefferyjohnson79996 күн бұрын
Completely agree with Mr. Carpenter, very impressive interview! I don't think series will abandon the hybrid project, but hopefully a compromise can happen soon. I propose they only use the hybrid at street races with no push to pass. The advantages of the hybrid starting and reversing could be a huge benefit at street courses. In addition street courses are well known for punishing cars, so it makes sense to tune and test the hybrid at those tracks only.
@Porsche919tribute6 күн бұрын
Indycar failure to implement a new chassis for 12 years and attempt to remain 2010 technically relevant. Car doesn’t work with the added weight. Roger better have this added weight at his Speedway or he his a fraud. That show will be as bad as this was was on both days
@greggpeterson99496 күн бұрын
This Hybrid business is terrible. Hybrids have already ruined F1.
@ntnsty6 күн бұрын
Ed knows
@myphone75686 күн бұрын
Indy was already a renewable series...the hybrid units are just adding capacitors made with materials mined with horrible processes
@karenperdue48796 күн бұрын
Hybrid! More foolishness!
@mackenziegalajda86016 күн бұрын
When the ir18 first came out the oval product was awful i wast at 2018 indy 500 it was follow the leader the onky time you could pass was restarts and on pit road. 2019 only the top cars could pass and you had thrilling battle between pagenaud and rossi. 2020 product better same in 2021. 2022 good race. 2023 good race did not like nascar style ending but racing was good and then 2024 most passing ive ever seen since dw12 car which needed to be changed the racing was insane but someone was gonna killed if we kept that pack racing era going. We have had two weekends with the hybrid at two very different tracks.
@djmohab26 күн бұрын
Stick to what you know, which is nepotism and running in the back.
@BenDecko20236 күн бұрын
Spending money to appease a group of people who do not watch or contribute to the success of Indy Car in any manner.
@The52car3 күн бұрын
Are you kidding? Honda has contributed more to IndyCar in the past 20 years than anyone else.
@DavidClark-vu3dw6 күн бұрын
Remember these guys raced go karts when kids and if you were having an issue with your kart you immediately lifted your arm up in the air. These guys all of a sudden have forgotten to quickly get out of the way when their car is having a problem.
@stellingbanjodude6 күн бұрын
Consumers by and large want nothing to do with hybrids or EV’s. I certainly don’t want them associated with racing.
@rexthewolf31496 күн бұрын
Hybrid sales have actually been going up the past few years and haven’t hit the pit falls the ev’s have. So hey go look up actual data before making broad statements.
@stellingbanjodude6 күн бұрын
@@rexthewolf3149 buddy I work in the automotive industry, I’m telling you they ain’t selling where I’m at. They may be selling in the cities but not where people actually work for living.
@rexthewolf31496 күн бұрын
@@stellingbanjodude So do I “Buddy” And your point it’s what exactly? Most of the American population lives in the city and they drive more often that those in country. So yeah the city is the prime market.
@Michael-pi8ps6 күн бұрын
@@stellingbanjodudethe only EV’s that aren’t selling are those made by legacy manufacturers.
@rexthewolf31496 күн бұрын
@@Michael-pi8ps Actually Tesla has also had a drop in sales this year. Hybrid sales have been been steadily growing past couple years especially with the Japanese and Korean manufacturers.
@millrays6 күн бұрын
My God Ed Can't you see they're saving the world......lol
@gosmo45046 күн бұрын
I think we know what car Rossi is driving next year...
@CaminoCarpet6 күн бұрын
Hybreds are a joke. Indy trying to copy F-1, Joke. Kneeling to Gaia and virtue signaling' Were green', JOKE.
@cylonred89026 күн бұрын
He really needs to stop driving but in one story he complained about the hybrid system causing issues... OTHERS (including drivers) said it was what was done for NASCAR races at the Iowa track. The LATTER sounds far more likely than the former. But someone winning from 22nd on BOTH races (if I remember correctly) is really astounding. It is rare and there have been really good races this year. Hybrids are going to be around for awhile - both consumer AND racing. People has been whining about the old cars and engines and when something is done - boom - nothing but crap on it.
@jshumphress136 күн бұрын
Going out on a limb and thinking Ed doesn’t like where Indycar is at. I’d be pissed too as an owner that crashed in both races through no real fault of his own. Add in the poor racing, and I get the frustration.
@StalinsPurge6 күн бұрын
Well we can thank the France family for ruining the tracks but the hybrid system not being a “game changer” like it was advertised is a massive failure. IMSA should not be more technologically advanced than Indycar
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm50446 күн бұрын
Formula 2 and Super Formula are more advanced than IndyCar. This series is going down the toilet without a new chassis soon.
@StalinsPurge6 күн бұрын
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 you’re 100% correct and both of those cars are on an even playing field and sometimes much faster. They also need more manufacturers and make the teams buy the engines not lease them. With it being a spec series with a low entry point for teams it’s a double edged sword, but it feels like a split or the series shutting down is imminent. He needs to sell a majority of the shares, bring in a new manufacturer, new chassis because you can race on in historics, and let the teams buy into the series and make decisions
@The52car3 күн бұрын
You don't like the hybrids but you want IndyCar to be more technical than IMSA? Pick one...
@StalinsPurge3 күн бұрын
@@The52car I like the hybrid but’s just like ed said, it’s a gimmick to appeal and the most expensive 100lbs he’s put on a racecar. Imsa hybrids are at least a notable difference in racing and really are a game changer.
@The52car2 күн бұрын
@@StalinsPurge how exactly does it change IMSA racing? IndyCar fans (and teams!) would be livid if the hybrids shook up the standing in the middle of a championship season.
@huracanmedia16616 күн бұрын
In short Indycar is a mess and it falls 100% on RP, the show product is not good. They are running venues that nobody wants nor are they profitable. Detroit was a disaster, there are three venues, Long Beach, Indy and Toronto and the rest don't matter and are losing money for a variety of reasons. The racing is survival WWF style at most tracks and its embarrassing to most in the motorsports- RP needs to sell his team and the series to someone like Liberty Media that made an immediate and massive impact on F1 and it was not because of netflix! All of the teams are now profitable, highly profitable guessing none of the teams in Indycar are?
@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT6 күн бұрын
Talk that talk, Ed! This season has honestly been bad. I cannot recall the last time IndyCar had a bad season, but 2024 has been such a bad year with endless amount of constant bad news, declined ratings, Thermal Club, mid and bad racing (except Barber, Indy 500, and Road America), NBC not treating IndyCar equal, Canapino fans death threats, Detroit, the management being crap, I can go on. There has been a few positives, but there's just been way too many bad stuff going on this year. Such a nightmare season.
@ariansmovies6 күн бұрын
This depressing to hear and no wonder why I have not felt compelled to purchase a race ticket for the Nashville finale and I live like 30 minutes to it.
@Bolt_theG356 күн бұрын
I’m assuming Indycar wants to go hybrid just to satisfy the engine manufacturers or possibly entice another manufacturer to come on board. If it’s the latter then I get it. But if it’s more about trying to expand the fanbase then going hybrid isn’t the way to do that imo. They would need to expand the schedule and locations abroad. Go to Mexico, Brazil, Australia; they have Argentinas most known driver right now, Argentina would be great, but for whatever reason Indycar just refuses to do that right now. I know it’s costly to go abroad, but those races would also return revenue, the hybrid engine doesn’t and it’s still expensive between the parts and testing and now it’s affecting the ovals. And after listening to Ed I’m even more convinced a new car and aero package is needed.
@bartsullivan48666 күн бұрын
The 2nd race crowd was kind of embarrassing nobody in the stands. The night race was good but didn't get to see any of it because of NBC and politics. TMS was like that as well, could be a great race and nobody there to see it. Maybe if all the ovals besides Indy were night races they would do better. Wouldn't mind a Mexico oval race or Vancouver BC couldn't cost that much to do those 2 markets even brasil stay in the Americas somehow when you go oversees that is probably the big cost crunch but I imagine New Zealand and Australia would love it. Still want to see some of the smaller teams get wins besides Penske and Gnassi.
@Bolt_theG356 күн бұрын
@@bartsullivan4866 yeah I agree. I was a bit disappointed with the crowd yesterday but then again it supposedly was super hot, so ticket sales may have actually been better than the actual attendance. Indycar has raced every single one of those markets in the past except Argentina to my knowledge and with the internet today, there’s no reason to not be able to market properly and stream the races. I understand F1 has a much bigger budget, but it’s not a problem for them. It is a cost crunch at first, but I feel going abroad will drastically increase viewership which can only help the sport in the long run. Especially once race fans that aren’t familiar with Indycar see how much closer the racing is. But going hybrid just to go hybrid isn’t the way to attract more Viewership imo. However I do hope going hybrid helps to keep Honda onboard and even attract another manufacturer.
@The52car3 күн бұрын
Save your breath, you were right in your first paragraph.
@marktemsic4856 күн бұрын
Please,, I want one of those Ed Carpenter shirts.. Blue like that.. sz. Med.
@andyhamilton89406 күн бұрын
Thank your step Dad Tony for putting the sport where it is now.
@michaelgomez30446 күн бұрын
Hybrid sucks. C'mon Indy car.
@apexkilla6 күн бұрын
I feel bad for these drivers having to stand around in the heat answering so many questions from so many “reporters” over and over again.
@cyclONEnation566 күн бұрын
Part of the job
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm50446 күн бұрын
After being in the car, standing in the paddock feels like Alaska.
@mikehalling80466 күн бұрын
No more than glorified go-karts just droning around at the same speed. Ridiculous speeds in the corners make it dangerous for the fans, (I wouldn't want to watch on the outside of a turn) Put some driver skill into the equation by having to slow down and even BRAKE for the corners.
@wilburshaw93306 күн бұрын
Dump that hybrid crap!
@nickporter5746 күн бұрын
The hybrid as its done in IRL right now is a gimmick. They really needed an entirely new car design to incorporate it properly. You cant just jam it in there on top of the already existing format. I guess this was done to appease Honda.
@badgumby95446 күн бұрын
Like everything else. Indy Car going "woke".
@danielhenderson83166 күн бұрын
I fail to see the required GirlBoss that is better than everyone else just because she's a girl. It's a key definition for "woke."
@Willbrse6 күн бұрын
"Making our product worse" Man, not like short oval racing has ever been good anyway "Show me Honda leaving" Welll, they are leaving. They may stay if ICS goes ahead with the engine changes that is something I've been saying for a while. "Show me the 3rd OEM" Idk how people expected a hybrid system that is a spec part to attract new manufacturers if the whole spending would still be in the V6 not only to catch up with Honda and Chevy, but a new OEM would still need to keep spending a lot to find minimal gains just like those 2 are doing now. So all in all it's not worth joining if things are like this. The 2.4l formula had nothing that would guarantee this wouldn't happen either. Manufacturers aren't willing to spend endless money to find power anymore, except in F1. I guess the average fan and IndyCar team owner aren't smart enough to realize this. Do like other series, bring a fuel flow and torque control based regulation and they'll come. Make it a reasonable power on the ICE, not crazy 900hp, nobody cares about it and it never helped to create good racing. You can achieve something like that with hybrid to give you faster acceleration (550~600hp ICE + 300~350 from a spec hybrid limited to max speed for deployment to focus on more aceleration) but too much end power always creates a poor product and it's expensive to do. Of course the series needs a new car to achieve all that. See LMH/GTP manufacturers aren't dropping a ton of money on engines anymore, they don't need to. You see a few work here and there to increase reliability (specially Alpine getting mecachromed) but that's it. They still spend a lot on developing the other parts of the car tho. I think IMSA/WEC should put a stop on it before it's too late.
@MrJohansen6 күн бұрын
Actually it was good. Iowa was great until the added the aeroscreen. But the aeroscreen killed oval racing in indycar At least they added downforce to the superspeedway package last year so at least the superspeedways are good again. But flat tracks are still suffering because of how heavy the aeroscreen is
@The52car3 күн бұрын
@@MrJohansen nah, outside of some 500s, the oval package has been a struggle since 2017.
@txinterceptor84286 күн бұрын
Wow I've never seen Ed Carpenter sound so frustrated. But he's right. This has been a messy year. From the Star Wars Trench Run that was Detroit to now facing ovals to finish the season where no one can pass, I think it is okay to pull the hybrids for the rest of the season and figure it out for next year. We need a new car that is actually BUILT for the windscreen (which has shown to be a lifesaver), and BUILT for the hybrid system, but with better downforce. And I think Indycar needs to hold the tracks accountable. Obviously that won't happen in the offseason but they should have started the process of building a car with the aeroscreen designed into it the moment the aeroscreen was a proven tech (which it is). Finally, if the host tracks won't manage the surface in a way that benefits Indycar (and not just Nascar), then Indycar should find other ovals. Maybe back to Texas Motor Speedway, Twin Ring Motegi, or Pikes Peak International Raceway.
@raleighsexton77346 күн бұрын
Nascar goo added to Texas caused the same problem and is probably why we don't go there anymore, It's a challenging problem, the car is old and covered with bandaids. Where does that make sense?
@bartsullivan48666 күн бұрын
@@raleighsexton7734 To be fair the attendance at TMS was terrible even when the races were great. They should have always done a night race at TMS.
@hammer-r6 күн бұрын
Love the honesty, but these are all millionaires and billionaires crying about costs. Now that’s funny. Work out the kinks and race.
@phillycheese9336 күн бұрын
During the supposed "network outage" in Saturday's race, does anyone have any info on that? How long did it last? Were all affected, or were some not? Also, how did Armstrong's rear wing caution lights come on under green, when the driver has no ability to activate them? Appreciate any real info!
@MrJohansen6 күн бұрын
Network outage? Im unaware of an outage but the race was on CNBC because big NBC was covering the [i cant say what it was because youtube will delete my comment] that happened hours before the race. As for the armstrong lights im not sure if we ever got an answer to that
@MrJohansen6 күн бұрын
Network outage? Im unaware of an outage but the race was on CNBC if thats what youre talking about, it was because big NBC was covering the tragedy that took place earlier in the day. As for the armstrong lights im not sure if we ever got an answer to that
@phillycheese9336 күн бұрын
@@MrJohansen it was "reported" that the hybrid system on the racecars during the race experienced a software (network) outage, making the boost system unavailable. But my question is, was everyone affected?
@The52car3 күн бұрын
@@phillycheese933who reported that?
@phillycheese9333 күн бұрын
@The52car By the broadcasters in Sunday's pre-race coverage. I believe it was L Diffey who actually said it. He just mentioned it very briefly with no details. We only know that it was out for a while before being resolved.
@bob-xo5kc6 күн бұрын
Go woke, go broke.
@w.peterroberts96246 күн бұрын
Wow! What a great interview. Ed is the MAN for saying what needs to be said. Our favorite series spent a lot of $$ to show how "green" they are and bow to the whims of a lot of folks who don't give a hoot about auto racing. Indycar showed they can do it so ditch the hybrid, make the changes to the car that Ed suggests and cater to our fans and the best interests of the teams that make our product. Auto racing can never be "green" enough to satisfy the eco-nazis so we should just do our best to put together the best series we can and enjoy it. Ed just said what we'll never hear from the Penske/Andretti/McLaren folks. Thanks, Ed, for the honesty.
@mackenziegalajda86016 күн бұрын
It isn't about being green honda needs more relevance to make cost worth it to them and losing homda will be huge blow
@dontommaso44206 күн бұрын
Not sure I would group Andretti in that "we'll never hear from" dept. Michael has never feared sharing his thoughts
@halkieria75816 күн бұрын
IndyCar in 2026 has the chance to become the fastest single seater in the world seeing the routh taken by F1...