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@walker3808 16 күн бұрын
such a poor translation of Gen 6:1-4. The world has it wrong about those scriptures, God is mad at man for choosing wives of their own choosing and he can not dwell in the flesh which humans find fine. God does not like our sex appeal, as the Scriptures say the human race will walk like the angels neither married or given in marriage after God breeds you like pigs and dogs as the human race is no different then pigs, or geese, or monkeys or any other beast. YOu do not know what is wrong with the flesh and what man finds fine on a woman, or what is pretty or sexy. The human race has a orgy sex drive, as you share with your fellow bros on one woman with the eyes and what you call fine or fair Gen 6:2. God promiese death to all that you love when you leave this world so dead God promises your mate will be widows can remarry for it is dead and worldly. God can say over and over I join as one flesh up your worldly wife as long as it dies off first before another man can have a holy sacrament go on her in marriage and God threatens this world with marriage so he can bless your dead worldly ways so you do not get thrown into hell for your love of the flesh. A son of God is anyone that follows after the spirit, but the world does not follow after the spirit with their mate, but chose mates of their own choosing and God promises death to you all and death will come and do you all apart and you are all cursed to be like the angels in heaven neither male or female and neither married when you get to heaven if you even make it there by grace. You will be just beings in heaven without a gender. God says not to desire worldly things as christians lick their lips I love marriage and marriage is so holy and worldly, God says his ways "live forever" as Christians laugh they are blessed as death will do them all apart, and another can have a holy go on you as they serve the world and widows. Sons of God men following after the spirit of God. Woman were created for man and of man daughters of man. Gods spirit was in man back in the day and because of the union Giants were born men of renown, God says he can not strive with the flesh for that is what man is flesh. God is mad at our sex appeal for humans have the image of the beast in what they love..
@walker3808 16 күн бұрын
as Christians will say we are not in the image of the beast for Marriage is holy as they kiss the world. God tells this world not to desire things that turn to dust, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven. God says love your bride as Jesus loves his church as Jesus leaves his bride in the world as the Christians say they love their bride like Jesus loves his church....they love it so much their love can turn to dust and another can swing up her body in marriage as widows can remarry. Even if you never remarry your eyes are corrupts and so are your souls.
@walker3808 16 күн бұрын
go forth and multiply as the pigs go forth and multiply. Not much of a difference from Gods image then that of a beast in marriage. In the end God separates you all after he is done breeding you like pigs and dogs......but he did warn you not to desire the flesh or things of this world or the love of the father is not in you and he says his ways live forever...as the whole wide world has till death do them apart and are cursed to be like the angels in heaven neither married or given in marriage.
@BibleOracle 18 күн бұрын
We have ONE example of a birth by a woman and the father was NOT human...JESUS! It took the "power of God" to do so. NO angels can claim that power-equal to God Himsel. Absolutely impossible.
@keithcampbell7820 2 ай бұрын
If nothing else I respect Sproul for the athleticism he exhibits. Them’s some mighty big hoops.
@richardfromtexas 3 ай бұрын
What about PS 82?
@YesuAiNimen 2 ай бұрын
.....and Psalm 89?
@chrisd2548 3 ай бұрын
Bless you RC Sproul - The 1st place you go to explain the text is what else is said in the same book! You study closely the passages right below and right after the text in question. Genesis is talking about the sons of Seth and the sons of Cain. You don't go to understand what Paul is saying about faith and works in Romans by going to faith and works in Galatians. Much of the fallen angel stuff comes from the non-biblical book of Enoch where the fallen angels are even given names.Enoch Chapter 6-7 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: ‘Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.’ …And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, … And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells:
@user-fv5ms4sz8e 4 ай бұрын
There will be no resurrection or rapture, until the bowls of God's wrath begin to pour out. Everything before that, is us patiently enduring great Tribulation.
@pedrosotelo5804 4 ай бұрын
This is what happens sometimes in seminaries that refuse to really look at the true context of this biblical passages. The majority of scholars today agree that the term here as “Ben Elohim” refers to supernatural beings that have taken upon themselves to intervene in the natural or physical world. There is much evidence to support this. One of the leading scholars on this subject is the late Dr. Michael Heiser who wrote extensively on his book Reversing Hermon and the Unseen Realm. Dr. Sproul is great scholar but on this subject he is not accurate.
@AtreyuKhalil Ай бұрын
Why did Jesus say in like 24:39 that spirits don’t have flesh or bones? Also, the context in Genesis 4-7 is talking about Godly people and ungodly people and how that mixture lead to wickedness and people falling away from God. Genesis 6:5 says “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” So where do fallen angels having sex with human women come into play?
@pacificagirl9715 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting.
@julien.b.t7371 4 ай бұрын
Right. The sons of God refers to the godly lineage of Seth not angels and the daughters of men refers to the lineage of Cain. It is because if they were angels why then were they not able to escape the flood. We read that all were drowned in the flood except Noah and his family.
@michaelguidera1876 2 ай бұрын
In Ps 89, Job 1, Job 37, sons of God are spiritual beings, Elohim, not humans.
@AtreyuKhalil Ай бұрын
@@michaelguidera1876who are the morning stars in Job 38? Are they angels?
@kennethaldrich2854 5 ай бұрын
Vr, LORD Jesus Christ.
@thomasshoff6512 5 ай бұрын
Fallen angels created the nephilim with the daughters of men. This was one of Satan’s way to side track human focus on GOD!
@vallorypoole8117 5 ай бұрын
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (Matt. 22:30, ESV) For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. (Mark 12:25, ESV) Genesis 6:1-4 “Sons of God” cannot refer to angels in Genesis 6:4 because it warps God's ultimate plan for humanity's salvation. He states His purpose in Genesis 1:26, “Let us create man in Our image, according to Our likeness.” In other words, God is reproducing Himself! Human beings are not fashioned after the angel-kind but after the Godkind!
@vallorypoole8117 5 ай бұрын
The phrase “sons of God” is a biblical expression that has different meanings depending on the context It can refer to angels who were created by God to serve and worship Him in heaven or to Israel as the chosen people of God. It can also be a metaphorical representation of righteous individuals or divine messengers The phrase signifies the profound relationship between God and His creation ..I guess only God knows...
@spiritnoimage 5 ай бұрын
Read the book of Enoch, Jude qoutes the book of Enoch. Read book of Jasher, 2 Samuel 1:18 quotes Jasher.
@AtreyuKhalil Ай бұрын
Enoch contradicts the Bible in numerous ways, why are you tying that book in with actual scripted? Have you actually read Jasher? It’s just a bunch of made up “fill in the gaps” stories of stories from the Old Testament. You can’t be serious
@bobthomas1536 5 ай бұрын
Out of respect to RC Sproul I believe he was a good teacher and saved. The following is not too disrespect him, since he’s passed. It’s just an argument to the video. RC Sproul has to twist and turn the narrative and use vague associations to try prove his point. Calvinism has a very real problem seeing the spiritual side of the scripture. Yet the scripture is full of angels, spirits and creatures. Seriously it’s like half the Bible. There is war going on in Heaven and on earth, Paul even warns us that this is our main enemy. The spirit world not flesh. (Eph 6:12 ) But I guess that’s mythology? The Bible explains itself. The Sons of God in Genesis are not humans. We know this because they were there before man was created. Job 38:7. and Job 1:6 the Sons of God met with God in heaven. Now the term in the old testament “Sons of God” seems to not be used after a certain point until the New Testament. What happened to them? There are times in the Old Testament that God calls, Israel, children of God or Gods sons and daughters, but no point they are called Sons of God. The created things, in Job and Genesis are specifically called Sons of God (bein Elohim. ) There is no getting around it. It’s simple proof that doesn’t need a lot of “well this is what this means. This is what that means. “ RC doesn’t see the grandeur of God. it’s almost like he saying it’s impossible for God to have a different world before us and that eternity before us, God was alone? That doesn’t make sense. The Bible doesn’t teach that. Paul wants us to know there is an active spiritual world out there and there are created things that HAVE authority. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places”. These beings are not flesh and blood and they are not just demons. Some are Rulers some are principals some are wicked spirits in HIGH places. Paul doesn’t call them all angels because they are not. They are fallen creatures. We know they are fallen because we are at war with them!! They are not on our side. Dan 12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise” Here is an angel who is a Chief Prince to Israel And Dan 10:13 “However, the prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me for twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia. Why did the Angel talking to Daniel need help fighting an earthly prince of Persia? It’s because he wasn’t a human. So now we have Michael, as the prince of Israel And Someone else who is a prince of Persia. It’s all spiritual but it affects humans on earth too. Sounds like mythology if you agree with RC Sproul. So the biblical truth is the Sons of God were spiritual creatures. There is a heaven full of them, spiritual creatures, So if God is sovereign why is that so hard to believe. It’s literally in the Bible. It’s what the Bible says, in its plain and simple form.
@aveo10w 5 ай бұрын
In the OT it was created beings that were designated "Sons of God" including Adam. Luke 3:38. In the NT when the Christian is made a new creation by the work of the Holy Spirit, He receives the great honor and privilege to be called a "Son of God" 1 John 3:1
@danodonnell7218 6 ай бұрын
Elohim is the word for God. Bene Ha Elohim is used for angels. The fallen ones. Cast down. The mighty ones. So this I believe is a big part of the confusion, the word Elohim!
@kali8085 2 ай бұрын
Malak is Angel. Bene ha elohim is “son of god”
@RonEhleiter-xi5mk 6 ай бұрын
I realize Mr. Sproul is no longer with us, but this seems like another attempt by a fairly well respected leader to strip the Bible of its supernatural content and replace it with a humanistic explanation rather than read it for what it says and believe it. I think Sproul and McArthur both have highly questionable explanations of a number of old testament texts including genesis 6.
@truthbebold4009 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Sproul believed in angels and demons. There's plenty of supernatural activities in the Bible without needing to believe in supernatural beings that can't control their urges.
@brendaduncan4347 6 ай бұрын
This is what I have thought all along, but was told I was wrong. Why would the Bible refer to angels that came and raped women as "Sons of God"? Wouldn't they be demons? Sons of God are those who followed God. Women of me were pagan women. They inner married, which God had told them not to.
@trulyso734 6 ай бұрын
Maybe but you should research the term 'sons of god' first before concluding on the matter. When used that early in genesis.. from creation.. See Job 38. Valid point?
@robertbatista50 6 ай бұрын
The Sethite view uses the equivocation fallacy. They take each man in verses 1 and 2 to be two different genealogies, where the context makes no such distinction. The assumption is that everyone in this line of decedents were all godly people and that everyone in Cain’s line were ungodly.
@bobthomas1536 5 ай бұрын
If you follow that line of reasoning according to the Calvinist teaching we are ALL unregenerate. We don’t seek God. So how then could the line of Cain be any different than the line of Seth. They are both humans. Another problem where did Cain get his wife then. If the two lines were separated. One more thing. Where are the daughters of God, they must have existed if they came from the line of Seth. So then if the daughters of God mated with the sons of Cain would they still produce giants or fallen ones. See the problem with RC Sproul’s interpretation. It has a problem.
@AtreyuKhalil Ай бұрын
@@robertbatista50why would God lay out cains line and Seth’s line and tell us when Seth’s son Enos was born that men began to call upon the name of the Lord then tell us after the Sons of God raped human women that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually?? What does that have to do with being unable to stop powerful angels from raping human women? That makes no sense
@AtreyuKhalil Ай бұрын
@@bobthomas1536Genesis 4:26 “26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.” This is clear that there were Godly men at the time. Why would God tell us men began to call on the name of the Lord then tell us in Genesis 6 that These same men married ungodly women then God pronounces a Judgment on Mankind because God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually?? It’s clear from the context of the passages that this is just sinful humans doing what they do. Why would God pronounce judgment on weak humans who would be unable to stop powerful angels? That doesn’t even sound logical.
@lawnguy41 6 ай бұрын
It's a spiritual warfare
@lawnguy41 6 ай бұрын
The sons of God were Seth's descendants
@KiwiKhristian 6 ай бұрын
Definitely. They were given the TRUTH as sons inherit through wills and testaments. Daughters of men were the line of Cain. God said 8 souls were on the Ark...so how did these nephilim survive to be around after? I refuse to perpetrate a lie and hear those words...depart from me, I never knew you. The fallen angels went straight to hell. 2 Peter 2:4 [4]For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; Plus they have no genitalia. Celestial and terrestrial are 2 different beings.
@kali8085 2 ай бұрын
All conjecture….
@AtreyuKhalil Ай бұрын
@@KiwiKhristianat the end of Genesis 4 in verses 26 it says Seth had a son named Enos and when Enos was born “men began to call upon the name of the Lord”. Fast forward to when God said the Sons of God came into the daughters of men and after that in Genesis 6:5 “5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” It’s clear from the passages that once the people of God intermingled and was unequaled yoked with unbelieving women, wickedness was prevalent in those days. Nothing in the context of Genesis 4-7 implies anything about angelic beings procreating with human women. How would that be even possible.
@KiwiKhristian Ай бұрын
@AtreyuKhalil yes. Jehovah said to each seed its own. Celestial and terrestrial are 2 different seeds. When we are glorified the Bible says we'll be like the angels...neither marrying or given in marriage..meaning no sex as angels do not procreate.
@KiwiKhristian Ай бұрын
@@kali8085 SCRIPTURE IS NOT CONJECTURE.
@pacificagirl9715 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Pastor Nollie.
@stephenparrish1364 6 ай бұрын
No, the sons of God were Adam's children seeing their sisters and fulfilling the command, be fruitful and multiply.
@rufuspatrick2764 6 ай бұрын
Christians are children of God. We pray, "Our Father..."
@aveo10w 5 ай бұрын
1 John 3:1
@1gumbah 6 ай бұрын
Angels are not sons of god
@trulyso734 6 ай бұрын
Humans are God's created children. They are not the gen6 'sons of God'.
@AngelRoseHeaven 6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@AngelRoseHeaven 6 ай бұрын
🙏
@Atomic568 6 ай бұрын
100% agree with Dr Sproul’s teaching on this passage of the Bible. Angels having intercourse with earthly women, is the most ridiculous explanation of this text I’ve ever heard. Anyone who doesn’t agree with Dr Sprouls teaching on this subject and believes the contrary doesn’t know or understand the scriptures.
@truthbebold4009 6 ай бұрын
Not just intercourse, they apparently had officiated wedding ceremonies. I wonder what their family home dynamics looked like? Did they argue over financial issues and him working too long of hours? Enquiring minds want to know 😂 Let's hear some of their dirty laundry 😁😆
@bobthomas1536 Ай бұрын
@@Atomic568 The question is who are the sons of God and where did the Nephilim come from. The Sethite view explains neither. Moses wrote Genisis so he knew what he meant by sons of God. Nowhere does he say Sons of God were from the line of Seth. It’s not there. It’s not even hinted at. What makes maters worse with that view is the daughters of men. It says daughters of men. Both Cain and Seth were men. They both had daughters. Once again the text doesn’t say daughters of Cain. It’s just not there. Then one has Sons of God. It’s doesn’t say Sons of Seth’s line were sons of God. Once again, not in scripture. The oldest book in the Bible is the Book of Job. Moses probably knew of this Book because it was probably written during the time of the patriarchs. When using exigencies this would be a good place to look for answers because it pre dates Moses. In Job 38 it says that the Sons of God shouted with joy when God laid the foundation of the earth and in Job 1 the sons of God met with God in heaven. The next problem is the Nephilim. Moses had to fight these guys, they were giants. The book of Numbers says so. With the Seth view Seth’s line having sex with Cain’s line made giants? That makes zero sense, plus it says when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and bore children. It says the daughters of men. All men. The distinction is not between Cain and Seth( it’s not anywhere in scripture) but between men and sons of God which according to Job the sons of God were there before creation and in heaven. There are many other scripture verses to prove the heavenly being having sex with humans is the proper interpretation. This infection into mankind is why God destroyed the earth and why God told Moses to completely eliminate the clans that had giants in their linage. It’s easy to check out and it harmonizes difficult passages. One more thing Moses never calls sons of God angels. That is what Jude and Petter called them. The term angel means messenger. It’s not a thing but an occupation It could be any heavenly being God chooses. Jude and Petter wrote in a time when the term angel became a generic term for any heavenly being so when they write about angels being “put into chains in dark places” during the time of the flood. Tthey knew their readers knew about Genesis 6 and the flood, Heavenly beings having sex with man kind is the best explanation for Gen 6. I didn’t write out all the verses, I assume since you claimed this view is ridiculous that you had already read these verses and you know what I’m saying.
@m2mike38 6 ай бұрын
I love the teaching of R. C Sproul. I perceive he teach the truth, though dome may see it in their own way.
@cvanhaelst4189 7 ай бұрын
A wonder exegetical explanation of this account of the corruption of the godly lineage by intermarriage with the ungodly line. This principle is further exposed in the Mosaic law when the Israelites took over Canaan. They were also forbid to intermarry. When they did it corrupted their faith in God and their culture. One last thought. Angels do not reproduce and cannot have relations with Earthly women that would produce an offspring. There is no scriptural basis for that kind of thought.
@tony_lopez 7 ай бұрын
RC’s explanation and exegesis of this text or scripture makes more sense than actually believing that angelic beings (which should not have the propensity to sin) could somehow come down to earth with uncontrollable lust and rape women. That theory does not make any logical or rational sense. The “sons of God” being the Godly heritage of Seth and the “daughters of men” being the wicked heritage of Cain, seems to be the more reasonable and sound doctrinal conclusion.
@JohnDoe-jg7gi 6 ай бұрын
But angelic beings do have the propensity to sin and defy God, if they didn't Satan and fallen angels would not exist. Its just they don't have the element of forgiveness that we have because they are directly in God's presence and aware of his power.
@truthbebold4009 6 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-jg7giThe problem is Satan convinced the angels that God was unjust and there was a rebellion against God's authority and God's Son. That was the only (supernatural) fall despite what Heiser taught about Revelation 12. The loyal angels remained loyal throughout the ages of Earth's history. Beautiful women aren't going to cause them to fall. The birth of Jesus isn't going to cause them to fall. No assignment from God is going to cause them to fall. After seeing the condition of their fellow angels and the condition of fallen man, there is absolutely no thing that would entice them to be disloyal. They aren't battling a sinful nature like we are. If angels cannot control their urges, then heaven cannot be a safe place for humans.
@AtreyuKhalil Ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-jg7gibeing able to sin doesn’t mean they can put on flesh, have bones and blood, dna and sperm to be able to procreate with an entire different species of creation.
@suesmith9665 7 ай бұрын
Not me
@Terrylb285 8 ай бұрын
Jude 6-7 ESV, NLT,NASB,NET,
@5crownsoutreach 8 ай бұрын
The late RC Sproul had a wonderfully blessed career and he was certainly a champion for Christ in many ways, but this video is a great example of a theologian doing terrible linguistic work. Theology can never be used to run the definitions of terms, theology can only be inductively arrived from good linguistic work.
@moiraventer1325 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Lord for the wisdom you imparted to this beautiful man 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@kali8085 2 ай бұрын
Okay
@oseasandres1232 8 ай бұрын
Thank God, your explanation confirmed my stand about sons of men marrying the daughters of men. May God bless Ligonier ministries
@GracieDontPlayDat 9 ай бұрын
If you didn’t actually read the Bible, you could be taken by a Marvel-type secret society that told you that you have special powers from your demonic bloodline that are needed to save the world (Satan is the Flatterer)! But, in the Bible we find…. Acts 10:34-35 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. & Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence [Adam] death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
@jeromeofmiddleton 9 ай бұрын
For someone as well respected as RC Sproul, this is just poor biblical exegesis.
@drivebyquipper 9 ай бұрын
You don't know from Shinola.
@larrymoore2571 9 ай бұрын
@jeromeofmiddleton Hi Jerome. Proper exegesis is context, context, context. No angels are mentioned in the Bible until Genesis 16. The storyline in Genesis 6 is all about the apostasy of 'MAN'. Genesis 3,4, & 5 are about original sin, and one group that rejects God, and another group that is seeking God (Gen 4:26 Then men began to call upon the name of the Lord). Then comes Gen 6 'sons of God' and daughters of men. Are we now going to interject angels into the narrative for one verse and then continue to see God blame 'MAN' for the remainder of the chapter? Does the Bible define the 'sons of God'? Yes! Here is God's definition: ~ Romans 8:14; "For all that are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God." It really comes down to who are the 'sons of God' in Gen 6:2. The 'sons of God' of Gen 6:2 are revealed in Gen 6:3. ~ Genesis 6: (2) the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. (3) 'Then' the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not 'ABIDE' in 'MAN' forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” Was God's Spirit 'abiding' in 'MAN' then? Yes, or else God would not threaten to remove His Spirit. Again, "For all that are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God." MAN Now the chapter continues with the wickedness of MAN, the thoughts of MAN were only evil continuously, and God was grieved in His heart for making MAN. About the Nephilim (Hebrew definition 'Fallen Ones'). ~ Psalm 53:2-3; “God looks down from heaven on the children of man to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God. They have all ‘FALLEN AWAY’; together they have become corrupt; there is none who does good, not even one.” The Bible NEVER mentions angel/women /hybrids and NEVER warns against them, but it continually warns against marrying idolators, here is just two of probably 100 verses: ~ Deuteronomy 7:3-4; "Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor shall you take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods; Then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you, and He will quickly destroy you." Trust and Faith in Jesus alone can save. Look Up
@jakeham4017 9 ай бұрын
this is heretic, worse than his eschatology and I am so saddened
@chulritti 9 ай бұрын
@@larrymoore2571 sticking strictly to cannon is wise I suppose, but the Enoch explanation seems plausible to me. We will never know for certain what Paul's exact intention were with that verse. I just tend to get a little worried when people say we need to "de-mythologize" scripture. That ethos can lead to Ken Ham levels of ridiculous hyper literalism. To say that you were form formed the earth in the very image of God doesn't mean you are currently composed of clay. Keep your eyes on that straight and narrow brother.
@Terrylb285 8 ай бұрын
Job 38:7 the sons of God were present when God laid the foundations of the earth.
@marywesley6460 10 ай бұрын
More Christians need to know about Dr. Peter Jones and listen to his lectures--prophetic warnings.
@mikecara8181 10 ай бұрын
He is CLUELESS….sad
@larrymoore2571 9 ай бұрын
@mikecara8181said, "He is CLUELESS….sad" Hello Mike, have you ever considered that the Bible never says that angels procreated with women? Have you considered that whenever the Bible defines the 'sons of God', or children of God it is always mankind? The Bible never states that angels are called 'sons' because Hebrews 1 tells us that 'son' is a more excellent name than that of angels. Angels were spoke into existence, whereas mankind were fashioned from the earth and mortal life was breathed into them with the command 'be fruitful and multiply.' Genesis 1 dictates that God's natural law of reproduction is that all creation reproduces after their own kind (God repeats this 11 times for emphasis). Angels are all immortal Spirit beings (Hebrews 1), and mankind are mortal flesh, vastly different. We see that God's people are forbidden to marry ungodly pagans repeated almost 100 times in scripture, however something as serious as angels procreating with mankind producing a hybrid line that threatens the bloodline of Jesus, is never clearly mentioned in scripture. There is speculation and innuendo also uninspired writings and godless cultures but the Bible never says angels married women and procreated with them. What is clear is that Jesus said the angels do not marry in heaven, but even more important is Jesus describing the days of Noah. He says people were eating, drinking and marrying until the flood suddenly took them all away. He speaks of marriage and the flood but is silent on the angel/women/hybrids? The fact is no Patriarch, Priest, Prophet, Pharisee, Apostle, Disciple or even Jesus Himself EVER mentions angel/women/hybrids. If this was true and important it would be mentioned more than the unequally yoked marriages of humans. The Bible alone is all we need for Christian living. God Bless You
@Revolver1701 8 ай бұрын
RC was many things. “Clueless” was not one of them.
@mikecara8181 8 ай бұрын
@@Revolver1701. He is totally ignorant on this subject about the elohim (sons of God or gods)
@mikecara8181 8 ай бұрын
@@drivebyquipper What do u mean?
@larrymoore2571 8 ай бұрын
@@mikecara8181 Have you considered letting scripture define the 'sons of God', rather than uninspired writings? Who does God say are the ‘sons of God’? ~ Romans 8:14; "For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." ~ Genesis 6:2-3; ... the ‘sons of God’ saw that the ‘daughters of men’ were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. ‘Then’ the LORD said, “My ‘Spirit’ shall not ‘ABIDE’ with ‘MAN’ forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless, his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” Why does God immediately proclaim that He is removing His ‘Spirit’ from ‘MAN’, Was God’s Spirit ‘abiding’ with ‘MAN’ then? Again, “those being led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.” MAN! The entire context from Genesis 3-6 is all about 'MAN' and the growing apostasy of MAN that led to the destruction of the world. God blames 'MAN" for the flood and never mentions angels until Gen 16. Some people get sidetracked with the word Nephilim. Did they survive the flood, or did angels take women again? The Nephilim are not a race it is a condition of the heart. ~Nephilim (Hebrew definition: fallen ones), ~ Psalm 53:2-3; “God looks down from heaven on the children of man to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God. They have all ‘FALLEN AWAY’; together they have become corrupt; there is none who does good, not even one.” God Bless brother this is not a salvation issue, but it goes to the character of God, His omnipotence and omniscience.
@oldbottleofiodine8171 11 ай бұрын
This a good hymm! Such meaning. Praise 👏 the Lord! Amen.
@kimschott8032 11 ай бұрын
Lovely!
@Saunders7 Жыл бұрын
Angels don't have blood or semen
@jeromeofmiddleton 9 ай бұрын
How do you know?
@drivebyquipper 9 ай бұрын
@@jeromeofmiddleton Cue the scoffer trolls.
@donajohanna 9 ай бұрын
Abram gave two angels and The Lord a good meal thou...
@drivebyquipper 9 ай бұрын
@@donajohanna You can't use that to support the ridiculous notion that angels can procreate with humans.
@larrymoore2571 9 ай бұрын
@@donajohanna ~ Psalm 78: 24-25; "He rained down manna upon them to eat and gave them food from heaven. Man did eat the bread of angels. He sent them food in abundance." The Bible never says that angels are ONLY allowed to eat manna. I'm sure they can eat other food as well.
@pacificagirl9715 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@larrymoore2571 Жыл бұрын
R C great common sense Biblical presentation of this pagan myth that seems to be the rage these days. ~2 Timothy 4:3-4; "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths." ~ Titus 1: 13-14; "For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith, not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth."
@larrymoore2571 9 ай бұрын
@@drivebyquipper Yeah, sometimes it is hard to understand my ramblings. No problem.
@bobthomas1536 4 ай бұрын
@@larrymoore2571 hi Larry ! We’ve discussed on other sites, your a pleasant poster. What are the myths specifically? The OT is filled with visions and encounters with heavenly beings. We don’t exactly know what all of them look like. Some look like men others have wings. CS Lewis was able to take what would look like mythical creatures and use them in an allegorical way. He understood the grandness of God that we miss in our own Bible. Now, I think he could have used the actual description of actual creatures in the heavenly realm but one could argue even that would look more “ mythical “ than the actual mythology. God Bless!
@larrymoore2571 4 ай бұрын
@@bobthomas1536 Bob, hello again. This angel/women/hybrid story is what I see as problematic for a number of reasons. In our last discussion I made attempts to reply to your questions, but you never responded to my questions. Here are just a few hurdles that must be answered from those that believe angels married and procreated with women. #1 Genesis 1, God's has imposed His natural law that all creation reproduces after its own kind and is emphasized 11 times for a reason. Are men and angels the same kind? Hebrews 1:14 says angels are 'ALL' ministering 'spirits', whereas mankind are all mortal flesh... vastly different. ~ John 3:6; “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." God is the Creator of ALL life and holds together ALL things, angels cannot independently produce life: ~ Colossians 1:16-17; "For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-'ALL' things have been created through Him and 'FOR' Him. He is before all things, and in Him ALL things hold together." Why would God suspend His law of procreation and breathe life into these hybrids if true? Please answer. Why does God only condemn mankind in Genesis 6 and no mention of angels until Genesis 16? Please answer. If angel/women hybrids are true, why the mystery and silence if this is a threat to mankind? Please answer. No Patriarch, Priest, Prophet, Apostle or even Jesus Himself clearly confirms these unions. Jesus says angels in heaven do not marry. Is Jesus being misleading if He knows angels marry on Earth? Jesus said in the days of Noah people were eating, drinking, marrying then the flood came and took them away. Why if true, would Jesus speak of the flood and marriages but no mention of these hybrids? Would Jesus know about this topic, why the silence? Please answer. There is contextual congruity with these marriages being as Gen 4,5 lays out between pagans and believers. That is why there are many dozens of scriptures warning about mixed marriages such as here: ~ Deuteronomy 7:3-4; Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor shall you take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods; then the anger of the LORD will be kindled against you, and He will quickly destroy you." I will continue later I have an appointment.
@bobthomas1536 4 ай бұрын
@@larrymoore2571 I’ll read carefully later. Glad you got it posted! Great discussion
@larrymoore2571 4 ай бұрын
@@bobthomas1536 Part 2: Bob mentioned in another post: There were also the Rephaim, dead ones like King Og the giant of the giant clan. They were considered subhuman. God wanted ALL of them destroyed, completely. Deut 3" #2. What you avoided was that God commanded His people to also possess the land of the Kenites and the Kenizzites and the Kadmonites and the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Girgashites and the Jebusites. God wanted His chosen people to possess this land, not because the inhabitants were giant hybrid offspring of angel/women unions (because they weren't) but because they were grossly ungodly immoral tyrants. Let's see what God says of the Amorites in ~ Genesis 15:13; God said to Abram, “Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, where they will be enslaved and oppressed four hundred years; And in ~ Genesis 15:15; “Then in the fourth generation they will return here, for 'THE INIQUITY' of the Amorite 'IS NOT YET COMPLETE.” God in His grace is giving the people in the promised land 400 years to turn away from evil, but their iniquity will only increase to the point that God will destroy them. These people were sacrificing their children by burning them alive on the red-hot arms of their idol Molech. God did not destroy the Rephaim because of their heredity or stature, but because they were evil, just as the 'mighty MEN', MEN of renown' of Genesis 6. King Og had a very large bed, and he was most likely a large man, but the bible never states his height. Why do we suppose that people like Goliath at (9'9" or 6'6" in Septuagint) had to be descendants of angels? God spoke the universe into existence and is perfectly capable of creating giants like Goliath for His glory. Are we to believe that Samson was also a descendent of angels because he was truly the mightiest man to have ever lived? Angels marrying and procreating with women is not rational to me. My bible has many supernatural events in its pages including this amazing truth; God became a man, lived the perfect life that only He could live, fulfilled the law, and sacrificed Himself for us. All of our sins have been imputed to Him on the cross, and that perfect life He gave is imputed to us as His righteousness. We are no longer slaves to sin and death. Who God sets free shall be free indeed. Be Blessed brother Bob
@krazo4Christ Жыл бұрын
I love R.C., but respectfully disagree. The text draws a clear distinction between the sex of those involved, as well as their nature, and it draws particular attention to the unique characteristics of their offspring. Also, Jude 1:6-7 seems to confirm that the angels desired "strange", or "different", flesh (in the Greek)- and for this reason they are kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness. This should indicate that, at the very least, angels possessed men in order to cohabit with women, which is the view expressed by John MacArthur in his ESV Study Bible. Although personally, I believe there's a little more to it than that.
@larrymoore2571 Жыл бұрын
Jude & 2 Peter supports angel/human unions? Let's break down Jude: ~ Jude 1:5; "Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe." ~ Jude 1:6; "And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day," ~ Jude 1:7; "just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire." ~ NOTE: Jude 8 is a summary of the preceding verses in reverse order... (parenthesis are my notes). ~ Jude 1:8; "Likewise also these filthy dreamers 'DEFILE THE FLESH' (Verse 7 SODOM & GOMMORAH), 'DESPISE DOMINION' (Verse 6 ANGELS WANTING TO BE LIKE GOD), and 'SPEAK EVIL OF DIGNITIES'' (Verse 5 EGYPT REFUGEES LIKE 'KORAH' THAT REBELLED AGAINST MOSES & GOD)." The following explains Jude 6 when Satan & 1/3 of the angels ' did not keep their own domain and abandoned their proper abode': ~ Isaiah 14:12-14; "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." ~ This has nothing to do with angels making demigod hybrids by marrying women. I hope this helps... God Bless
@blvckmagik 10 ай бұрын
When it comes to anything miraculous in the bible....please...ignore the evangelicals and reformed theology folks...
@krazo4Christ 9 ай бұрын
@blvckmagik , why is that? They can be a bit wonky on modern miracles, but the vast majority affirm every miracle in the Bible.
@trulyso734 6 ай бұрын
Could be too.. through the man's entertainment of strange flesh.. hence a possession then transference onto the woman. Whichever way, eww.. yucks to imagine. No wonder there was only 1 summary verse about that in the bible
@krazo4Christ 6 ай бұрын
@@trulyso734, sadly, I'm sure we will see stranger things before the Lord returns.
@carolroberts8930 Жыл бұрын
Pastor Sproul's explanation of this scenario makes sense and is far more believable than believing angels inseminated human women and produced offspring. God's law for all his creation is that kind reproduces like kind --birds beget birds, not butterflies, cows produce more cows, not goats or hogs, and humans produce humans.
@drivebyquipper 9 ай бұрын
Not only that, Jesus reminded us that men will be like the angels in heaven-neither given nor taken in marriage. Some are slow on the uptake and insist that doesn't mean they can't fornicate. Hello? In Genesis it says the sons of God MARRIED the sons of men. It's foolish to think that angels mated with humans, they don't have the equipment-no sex for angels.
@drivebyquipper 9 ай бұрын
@@jakeham4017 What? Lol! Angels cannot procreate anywhere at all. Your lack of discernment is perilous.
@pacificagirl9715 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting so that we can watch when we can't make the Sunday Service. Happy New Year.
@bigspringscommunitychurchr13 Жыл бұрын
A Blessed and Joyful New Year to you both!
@stephenszucs8439 Жыл бұрын
If the problem was Seth marrying Cain's daughters, where was the sin? It was not forbidden at the time. why, if it was Seth's sons marrying Cain's daughters, must we assume Cain's sons never married a daughter of Seth? What about all the other sons and daughters of Adam and Eve? Was there some prohibition against them marrying either Cain or Seth's offspring? How could one human marrying another human bring a global disaster? How was a human man and a human woman marrying be "going after strange flesh" as it mentions in Jude?