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@Mintex_33
@Mintex_33 Күн бұрын
that last future thing is so fake ???
@slimthugga34
@slimthugga34 Күн бұрын
This is not a recent video but I really hope even a single person upvotes this comment after reading this essay because it means so much to me and I want to have shared it with at least a single person… I SOOO wish I could’ve watched this with my grandmother. She raised me as a child after my mother passed and one of the things she did with me everyday as I was growing up was play Ocarina of Time with me. She was retired so we had all the time in the world and we played it all the time. ALL THE TIME. Lol. She was my grandmother, she connected with me the best way I would let her - through video games. We ran through the game multiple times, we collected every heart, did every side quest - just like most fans. And we always wondered how to beat the Running Man… how to melt the ice… how to get to the Unicorn Fountain (although we didn’t know its name at the time), and how to get the Triforce (as she did on Link To The Past). She passed 6 months ago shortly before Christmas ‘23. The entirety of this video all I could think about was watching this with her, both of us in awe, watching my childhood dreams come to fruition. I know this video came out before then, but I only just came across it. Gosh this would’ve been so fulfilling to her. To us. So much closure to all these old myths of my childhood. Some people might think it silly to have childhood memories this deep around a video game, but I see it as something so much deeper. She taught me life lessons around having Courage, Wisdom, and Power. Looking back, this was such a perfect thing to raise me on. I wish she could’ve seen this. She’s gone now but I hope that somehow, someway, she maybe watched this with me. And she remembers those same feelings, and maybe feels the way I do now. I miss you so much grandma. I love you. And I’m gonna play this with my son now so maybe someday he feels this feeling that I feel now, and someday feels as good as I do right now. I love you miss you. Thank you for spending so much time with me.
@theenbee8222
@theenbee8222 5 күн бұрын
I wanna see a TASBot beat all of Ocarina of Time by itself, with minimal human input. I'm certain it's possible if you make enough contingencies and TAS movies in order to get that particular outcome. Speedrunners will (likely) always be better than machines at these games I'm sure, but seeing that a TAS could beat the game too with hardly any human input would be a major feat of technology.
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 4 күн бұрын
It's not possible on unmodified hardware, at least not with the typical definition of a TAS (sequence of prerecorded inputs). The console has two different clocks, one for the video output and one for everything else. They can drift relative to each other due to thermal and even quantum effects--this is not just practically unpredictable, but theoretically unpredictable. Lag frames in unexpected places cause a TAS to desync, the visual effects in Kokiri Forest cause lag frames based on their behavior, their behavior is based on RNG, the RNG is based on the CPU's cycle counter, and if the video clock is at a slightly different rate than it should be, a different number of CPU cycles will have elapsed between video frames. During the development of Triforce% I made a 15-second long TAS where Link just walks out of his house and into a different house across the forest. When played back on console, he misses the other house's door and walks into a wall. It's really that bad. Now theoretically it would be possible to make an AI-assisted program which plays the game live by watching the video output, with prerecorded strategies for certain tricks. That wouldn't be a TAS by the normal definition, but it would be a "tool-assisted speedrun".
@theenbee8222
@theenbee8222 3 күн бұрын
@@Sauraen Who cares is if it's actually a legit unaltered copy of the game or not? I'd just like to see a literal robot beat OoT for the first time lmao, that would be epic! X3
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 3 күн бұрын
@@theenbee8222 Well in that case, emulator-only TASes of OoT have existed for a long time!
@xavi_papa
@xavi_papa 7 күн бұрын
30:10 thats called a demo jump
@BULLZEYE23
@BULLZEYE23 8 күн бұрын
Even as a child, I only saw the triforce symbolically. The power you collect as you complete the dungeon. And gets stronger so that you can defeat the bad guy in the end. But it was nice to see how it was really realized, it was a very nice emotional moment thanks for that❤
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 6 күн бұрын
You're welcome! It was symbolic here too. Link had already become a god as soon as we completed the ACE setup. But the plot leading to the Triforce allowed this to be concrete in a way that Link himself could understand. And of course, in a way that was meaningful to the community.
@tragicallyfunny
@tragicallyfunny 9 күн бұрын
After explaining the setup, I cannot believe the skill needed to start ACE live. holy crap. Im going back to the live performance after all the behind the scenes
@SynoPTL
@SynoPTL 9 күн бұрын
It's nice how you're still checking for new comments
@TriforceWisdom64
@TriforceWisdom64 10 күн бұрын
I'm late to the party, but I need to say that this is absolutely incredible. Truly amazing work on this project.
@pussydestroyer6925
@pussydestroyer6925 11 күн бұрын
If I were there I would've screamed "STICKY FINGAH" as soon as the beta fairy showed up
@RABBIDGamfan
@RABBIDGamfan 16 күн бұрын
Remember that time when they rebooted the Madeline franchise and got rid of every other character, made it about anxiety and grief and later retconned Madeline to be transfem?
@mastergomez7997
@mastergomez7997 19 күн бұрын
I started my first comment here the last days because i felt responsible to post my words here, even if im late with my words,i wanted to post this. No other event would be able to make me give such detailed words Above all i just heard about this Run now not earlier :-( But THIS fullfilled my deepest wishes. -----> im 37 years old now, and my early childhood started with Zelda To be exact with OoT. While i write this words i know here is a bunch of people which feel the same like me, here and understand me in 100% We all know this days there was no internet and all z-fans over the world were not able to communicate, only nearby friends at shool or neighbourhood. I played lonely OoT at home , becaue my friend didnt try hard this game and gave it to me, he didnt even find the sword. After i did he couldnt believe and sit on his bicycle to join me at home in this adventure . The meeting of the dekutree the music and the feeling was fascinating. And THEN the possibility to leave the kokiri village, and you begin to realize there is so much more outside in this world. Every area every person you met every song you learned had bring you closer to this people and there story YOU was the boy who weld together the fate of all characters in hyrule. So the epic side quests the weapons and try to get in areas which were always locked,BUT AVAILABLE My biggest wish was enter the gerudo area as child , i tried with so much tricks. And the mystery of the zora ice , and all other hidden secrets. I would write an 10 hours comment , but i want to make it short :-). All the things which you showed us in this run : im sure i felt it these days 20 or more years ago THAT this was there somewhere in this game. And what you did completed my Childhood. That was what i waited for, even if i didnt really know that i waited for this . Thank you for this work ,no i mean masterpiece , i can only repeat Its really like tell someone Santa Claus is real. ( sry for my english , its not my mother english )
@thelastofitskind3034
@thelastofitskind3034 20 күн бұрын
I finally get to see the triforce😮 what a great moment to be alive
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 20 күн бұрын
If you get really good at speedrunning OoT and get a TAS replay device like TASBot has here, you can even get the Triforce yourself!
@mastergomez7997
@mastergomez7997 19 күн бұрын
I will never get the skills to Do it by my self, so the only way is, to watch this Video for the Rest of my life and Keep dreaming :-(
@summerlaverdure
@summerlaverdure 22 күн бұрын
that was probably the most impressive thing in ever
@mastergomez7997
@mastergomez7997 24 күн бұрын
I cant say anything im so much shocked POSITIV the santaclaus example is perfect for this. This game is the biggest part of my life I wonder how i would feel hearing this 25 years ago without internet or community to talk about this mystery. I started to cry 😢 I was sitting hours and looking for secrets in the games, and every cheat or easteregg was a wonder Is it possible to play the same like in this speedrun a changed emu Rom or some like this ?
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 20 күн бұрын
The playground rumors about OoT always claimed that there was some secret set of in-game actions you could do which would unlock a magical alternate ending. Though none of us knew it at the time--especially not Nintendo--that turned out to be true: that set of actions was the Arbitrary Code Execution exploit, and then using controller input to manipulate the console's memory to create the ending we all wanted. When I first got the modified BotW Link model running on the N64 around November 2021, it felt surreal, like something out of a different reality. I can only imagine how it would have felt to see this in 1998. We were not able to release some of the assets like the BotW characters, to avoid legal problems from Nintendo. But we have released most of it, and if you have Linux experience, you can compile a romhack version that's mostly playable but has some missing content. Keep in mind though that this was created to be an ACE performance, the romhack version is just sort of a side output that happened to come from it.
@Jop345
@Jop345 26 күн бұрын
Thank you so much guys !
@Jop345
@Jop345 26 күн бұрын
Love you all , wish I was there to see this , this is phenomenal !
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 24 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Jop345
@Jop345 26 күн бұрын
I missed it live, but the chills I have from watching and rewatching this is real :) <3
@PraecorLoth970
@PraecorLoth970 Ай бұрын
It's nice that credits were given to the original author of the fake screenshots. This type of hoax is very difficult to have nowadays. I wonder if the author is still out there, has seen this video, and if they cracked a smile when they saw the overture of sages.
@xzProGamerOfficalzx
@xzProGamerOfficalzx Ай бұрын
howd they get the twitch chat to show up? is it actually linked to the stream or were the messages just hard coded
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
It was live, people were able to see their own names and punctuation (and we broke Twitch chat with the volume of messages which resulted in the bursts of messages appearing)
@xzProGamerOfficalzx
@xzProGamerOfficalzx Ай бұрын
@@dwangoAC howd you get it to connect to the internet then?
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
@@xzProGamerOfficalzx We sent button presses that were coded in a specific way to encode chat messages - I think you would really enjoy watching the Retro Game Mechanics Explained video linked in the description, it has a section that covers how we did that portion
@xzProGamerOfficalzx
@xzProGamerOfficalzx Ай бұрын
@@dwangoAC alright thanks
@talkingjester9273
@talkingjester9273 Ай бұрын
3:39 Was the craziest door skip I have ever seen! 😮
@iceclkeyheart3060
@iceclkeyheart3060 Ай бұрын
Lot of this goes over my head but as I understand it it's essentially just a rom hack so I don't understand the vitriol people have towards it
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
Well, part of it is the lack of understanding that's often taking place - many viewers who leave those comments can't believe we did everything with only button presses, it's so unheard of that it appears magical or cheated on some level. It's okay, we're used to it, heh
@iceclkeyheart3060
@iceclkeyheart3060 Ай бұрын
@@dwangoAC even then there's no need to be so just like hateful? I really don't get people's need to be so angry about things they don't understand. It can't just be children either i bet. I'm sorry you have to experience that from the community.
@Animal_lives_matter
@Animal_lives_matter 24 күн бұрын
@@dwangoAC saying you "only did it with button presses" is a bit pretentious. what really happened is you loaded your own game demo through the controller port instead of the cartridge port.
@marinellovragovic1207
@marinellovragovic1207 9 күн бұрын
@@Animal_lives_matter well yeah, but with exactly that: button presses. they are all theoretically possible with 4 humans playing.
@Animal_lives_matter
@Animal_lives_matter 9 күн бұрын
@@marinellovragovic1207 i don't know of any 4 humans who can press buttons that quickly in such a precise pattern in synchronisation with each other to produce the exact machine code that corresponds to the game demo being shown look, it's clever, but in the end no more clever than say using a memory card slot to get some code to run for a softmod
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 Ай бұрын
Why is Link speaking Japanese while Zelda is speaking innit bruv?
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
This is what I'd best describe as a directoral decision - it was controversial enough to have Link speaking at all
@raparigo3973
@raparigo3973 Ай бұрын
This is fascinating, the chat appearing in the end is just mindblowing. Everything with unmodded cartridge/console and controller commands
@Sauraen
@Sauraen Ай бұрын
TASBot had injected Twitch chat into a few games using ACE over the years, since 2015 or so. In fact for that reason I was resistant to doing it again in the finale of Triforce%. But then Rebecca Tripp suggested--I think without knowing about the previous chat ACE stuff--that we should "represent the fans like stars in the sky". I thought that was a little out-there at first, but then I figured we could do that with the chat. Once I made the connection that we could represent the chat as "the future"--in that the community is the future of Zelda, so Link asked to see the future, and he was literally seeing the community members in the sky--I was completely sold, and everything else fell into place around that.
@raparigo3973
@raparigo3973 Ай бұрын
​@@Sauraen wait so they already made it? Did not know that. I actually just got to know this ACE code injecting and doing those amazing stuff just now. I entered the website to try to replicate this stuff on my pc on a emulator but unfortunately with no success😂 anyways maybe another day I try again. Congrats for the work!
@Sauraen
@Sauraen Ай бұрын
@@raparigo3973 Yeah, the TASBot team put Twitch chat into Super Mario World and Brain Age, and also had chat integration in Super Scribblenauts. You can look up any of those runs. It's not really possible to replicate the data injection of Triforce% in an emulator--there's no emulator which has TAS replay tools and also allows the controllers to be polled more than once per frame as we do. If you have Linux experience, it's possible to build a romhack version of Triforce% from our released source code, but you'll run into some missing content later, because we didn't distribute anything Nintendo could take down, like the BotW models.
@EvilMariobot
@EvilMariobot Ай бұрын
And thus, Samus would eventually die because the Omega Metroid destroyed her ship, trapping her on the BSL station when it crashed into SR388.
@beeensdominique4476
@beeensdominique4476 Ай бұрын
Zelda really said: "Chat, type 1 if you're here"
@R3TR0--93
@R3TR0--93 Ай бұрын
It blows my mind how people figure out this shit and make it happen on old hardware
@Sauraen
@Sauraen Ай бұрын
It was hundreds of people working on reverse engineering OoT over 21 years in order to find ACE. And then over 25 people and two and a half years to build Triforce% using ACE.
@xaby996
@xaby996 Ай бұрын
this is so awesome!!!
@-MelodyMoment-
@-MelodyMoment- Ай бұрын
38:41 deltarune queen materializes out of fountain
@Kamusch
@Kamusch Ай бұрын
Here thogether:)
@JohnPaulBuce
@JohnPaulBuce Ай бұрын
that wallkick off nothing got me 😂
@GoofyDominoes
@GoofyDominoes Ай бұрын
And i had the game Se-
@sickjuiceshorts
@sickjuiceshorts Ай бұрын
I thought this was so cool. When i was a kid playing ocarina of time i would always explore zoras domain, then when i saw that little underground tunnel, i thought "whats in there?" And i would always try to get in there but i couldent. Ive always wanted to know whats in there, and now that i know, i think thats so cool, a beta version of oot. Thank u so much for doing this, its so cool, and also, i really want to do this myslef, so can u maybe tell me how to do this? I think its so cool, pls tell me how to do this.
@Sauraen
@Sauraen Ай бұрын
Check out the Retro Game Mechanics Explained video linked in the description for an explanation on the glitches we exploited and how we used them to modify the game content on-the-fly.
@sickjuiceshorts
@sickjuiceshorts Ай бұрын
@@Sauraen thanks
@SL33PY_4SH
@SL33PY_4SH Ай бұрын
Thats sadly fake😢
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
In this case, nothing at all is faked, this is legitimately just button presses- please feel free to ask any questions you have about what we did and how we did it
@invisible_human1232
@invisible_human1232 Ай бұрын
its not they explained it and everything you clearly just didnt pay attention. they trick the game into reading controler iputs as code then use it to basicly add new code to the game.
@Tom-lf7zw
@Tom-lf7zw Ай бұрын
Ah yeah I got this ending as a kid.
@Sauraen
@Sauraen Ай бұрын
:LUL:
@lyceenjps5353
@lyceenjps5353 Ай бұрын
I finished my first playthrough that didn't use assist mode while watching this.
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
That had to be disorienting, heh
@lyceenjps5353
@lyceenjps5353 Ай бұрын
@@dwangoAC it did help with finding the strawberries though.
@CrossSockDance
@CrossSockDance Ай бұрын
Who was the voice of Link?
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
Per gettriforce.link/credits the voice behind Link (in Japanese) was the voice actor known as Zero
@CrossSockDance
@CrossSockDance Ай бұрын
@@dwangoAC Sorry, I was trying to find socials for them but couldn't so that's why I asked.
@Sauraen
@Sauraen Ай бұрын
​@@CrossSockDance They are a professional Japanese voice actor and did not want their real name to be used in case it might have affected their future career prospects. :)
@CrossSockDance
@CrossSockDance Ай бұрын
@@Sauraen Understandable. o:
@Jazzverso
@Jazzverso Ай бұрын
The fact they ended up in the sky before tears of the kingdom was announced is an awesome way to link the future to the past.
@IZEASGT
@IZEASGT Ай бұрын
I randomly got an impulse to watch old Item Abuse videos. As someone who’s only ever played the base SMW game, the amount of familiarity with the engine and all its quirks, glitches, and exploits that it’d take to conceive of any of these obstacles, along with the patience to build them and actually _put together_ the TAS in the process to prove it’s possible - I don’t know how those tools really work or what Panga’s process was like, but I assume there was a lot of frame-by-frame input programming and testing - absolutely blows my mind. I have a lot of appreciation for the skill and patience of RTA speedrunners (which I know Panga does too). But TAS construction is an incredible feat of its own kind. Building a game or romhack specifically around that art, all the more so. Maybe it was Trimming the Herbs that planted the seed of Mario TASing in my mind again. I’m still not happy about Ahoyo waiting until a week or two after The Last Dance’s clear to confess, but taken for what it is, the construction of TtH is still something pretty impressive. The fact that Ahoyo almost cleared bombs5 legit makes it clear that he really did have a deep understanding of SMM1. I know the tool he used was kept a secret until his confession, but I don’t know if any others were developed for SMM1 between then and when uploads ended. It’d be sweet to see a 500-second level that shows the kind of expertise the Item Abuse hacks have, especially since I know SMM1 was so glitchy as to put SMM2’s broken-track teleports, fake blocks, and Wiggler hardlocks to shame. (I should ask in a place where people will actually see it, ha.) Would’ve been a lot harder to develop, I’m sure, given how much more mature SNES emulators (and presumably speedrun tools) are. And, of course, mad props to Sanyx for RTAing TtH. Legendary Mario feat, there.
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC Ай бұрын
Swing by Discord.gg/TASBot and chat with us about it, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts
@user-nq8sn6tz1q
@user-nq8sn6tz1q 2 ай бұрын
43:12 :D
@Catman_CM
@Catman_CM 2 ай бұрын
CLAWGLIP, NOOOOOOOOOO! D:
@damientheincin
@damientheincin 2 ай бұрын
Madeline if she just locked in
@chilldedede
@chilldedede 2 ай бұрын
No offense but could we get a version where they shut up?
@eessndjd
@eessndjd 2 ай бұрын
Holy moly!!!!!
@randomguyorsmth-jc7sy
@randomguyorsmth-jc7sy 2 ай бұрын
NYOOOOM 29:29
@Anthonial_Mjj
@Anthonial_Mjj 2 ай бұрын
This is really cool, but I've always hated the sentiment of "Look! No mods!" as if what has actually been done has any more validity in terms of keeping the game as actually 100% vanilla. It's not vanilla, just because there are mods, doesn't make this legitimate. I see no difference between this and a modhack.(Not speaking technically, of course, speaking in spirit of the principal)
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 2 ай бұрын
Most of speedrunning is about making things happen in the game which the developers didn't intend. It's all about finding clever new ways to do things which nobody thought possible before, while still technically being within the constraints of the rules. Most of the time, the experience of a speedrun then becomes something that's almost completely disconnected from the original experience of the game--the player mashes through dialogue, sequence breaks past most of the plot, and ignores the ending cutscenes they've seen thousands of times. But what makes Triforce% more than just a technical showcase is that we pushed it so far that we looped around and made something which _was_ aligned with the original experience of OoT: worldbuilding, artistic presentation, humor, plot twists, and pushing the bounds of the N64. And we brought in community, which has become a major component of OoT despite Nintendo's intentions.
@copeharder69420
@copeharder69420 2 ай бұрын
what the actual heck.
@nathanielg1283
@nathanielg1283 2 ай бұрын
P R O M O S M 😒
@LxftRxght
@LxftRxght 2 ай бұрын
This is incredible. I've come over from the curious world of ACE within Gen 1 Pokémon, in my quest for a legit Shiny Mew (my friends think I am bonkers) to transfer over to the later generations. I did not at all think all of this was possible, and was working right the way through the pandemic as a key worker - so I missed all the weird and wonderful things people were doing with all that spare time. Truly incredible to think this is all borne purely of precise inputs (watched the technical video before this).
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 2 ай бұрын
MrCheeze used ACE to put Mew under the truck. I believe that was implemented as a corrupted Pokemon which you could get transferred to your game. That was one of our inspirations for Triforce%, making an urban legend finally come true just through controller input.
@anonymous82783
@anonymous82783 2 ай бұрын
Sera-kun is really fuckin good at MCWiiU PvP. I played against him, went 1-7 or something. Didn't know he was kinda famous until now.
@lunondisposable5382
@lunondisposable5382 3 ай бұрын
When they were able to redirect the browser, I realized what could happen. But when they posted a picture of a digimon, I _truly_ realized what could happen and got kind of scared lmao
@dwangoAC
@dwangoAC 3 ай бұрын
Right?