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@Crowfeather-v5o
@Crowfeather-v5o 2 күн бұрын
Hebrew ,thank G#D, doesn't need to be translated from any other language. It's not too hard to learn...it has a lot of root words and interesting gender and person indicators ...
@eumeliovazquezjr1630
@eumeliovazquezjr1630 4 күн бұрын
The KJV and the NKJV are bad translations is a bold statement and a super unpopular one.
@steveperry4243
@steveperry4243 8 күн бұрын
This is the only video on KZfaq that talks about the reading distances. I'm sure other people need this information too. Massive thank you!
@steveperry4243
@steveperry4243 9 күн бұрын
Hi there! Nice work! thanks for that. I'm thinking about getting one but worried it's a wee bit too small for my project - mostly I'll be standing 3 to 6 feet from camera and shooting long form content - think it's good at that distance or should I think about something bigger?
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 9 күн бұрын
This rig and set up has worked great for me & I highly recommend it. And better its affordable if you are one a budget. I just made a vid demonstrating the distances your mention. I post it tonight and link it under this comment. Best of luck!
@steveperry4243
@steveperry4243 8 күн бұрын
@@alpha4IV Oh cool, fantastic! Thanks for the great feedback as yes indeed I'm on a budget. looking forward to the new vid!
@salahelhaddad4872
@salahelhaddad4872 9 күн бұрын
Where does it say its okay to lie and break ann oath????!
@JimmyTuxTv
@JimmyTuxTv 10 күн бұрын
thanks for the shout, I'm working on an atheist sermon for Thursday morning
@petermarshall5363
@petermarshall5363 13 күн бұрын
Regrettably, you are wrong on a number of points. The notes in the Catholic Study Bible are contrary to Catholic teaching. They are identical to the notes in the NABRE. Those notes are not approved by the USCCB. Nor does the USCCB hold the copyright to the Bible text. Please read the copyright page. As regards the CTS New Catholic Bible it is based on the Jerusalem Bible and not the NJB.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 13 күн бұрын
@@petermarshall5363 Well you are wrong. But let's take it one step at a time. I've looked this up before, but can you list all the verses the Catholic Church has listed an OFFICIAL teaching on? Its not many.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 13 күн бұрын
@@petermarshall5363 here is the copy right to the translation: United States Conference of Catholic Bishops 3211 4th Street, N.E., Washington, DC 20017-1194 (202) 541-3000 November 11, 2002 Copyright (c) by United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 13 күн бұрын
@@petermarshall5363 here is a list of all the verses in the bible that the Catholic Church has definitively defined: Romans 5:12 ("By one man sin entered into this world") refers to original sin. 
 2. I Corinthians 4:7 ("What hast thou that thou hast not received") proves divine grace to be a sheer gift of God. 3. Isaiah 7:14 ("Behold a virgin shall be with child, etc.") must be regarded as prophetic of a Redeemer to come. 
 4. Genesis 3:15 ("I will put enmity between thee and the woman"), and Luke 1:28 ("Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee") contain at least implicitly the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary. 5. Philippians 2:6 ("Christ Jesus, being in the form of God, did not prize being equal with God, etc.") refers to the existence of the person of Christ as the Second Divine Person of the Holy Trinity before He became man in the Incarnation. 
 6. Matthew 16:16-19 ("Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church") and John 21:15-17 ("Feed my lambs . . . Feed my sheep") contain the doctrine of Papal Supremacy. 
 7. Luke 22:32 ("I have prayed for thee that thy faith fail not and do thou . . . confirm thy brethren") must be interpreted as providing a basis for the doctrine of Papal Infallibility. 
 8. John 3:5 ("Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God") shows the necessity of the Sacrament of Baptism with water. 
 9. Luke 22:19 and I Corinthians 11:24, recording our Lord's words at the Last Supper: "Do this for a commemoration of me", indicate the institution of the Sacrament of Holy Orders, the apostles being ordained as priests to offer the Sacrifice of the Mass or Holy Eucharist. 
 10. Matthew 26:26-28; Mark 14:22-24; Luke 22:19-20; I Corinthians 11:23-29, demand the literal and not merely a symbolical interpretation of our Lord's words at the Last Supper: "This is my body," "This is my blood," so that we must hold they teach the Real Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist or Blessed Sacrament. 
 11. Malachi 1:11 ("From the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles; and in every place there is sacrifice") is a prediction of the Sacrifice of the Mass. 
 12. John 6:54-57 ("unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blood") does not require Communion in both kinds instead of under the form of bread only. 
 13. Matthew 18:18 ("Whatsoever you shall loose upon earth shall be loosed also in heaven") and John 20:23 ("Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them") prove the Sacrament of Penance and the power of priests to forgive sins in confession. 
 14. James 5:14 ("Is any man sick . . . let him bring in the priests of the Church . . . anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord") teaches the existence of the Sacrament of Extreme Unction. 
 15. Deuteronomy 6:5 and Matthew 22:37 ("Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart and souls and mind and strength") do not require a love so spiritual and out of this world as to exclude all human emotional feelings and desires based on devotional sentiments. [John 3:5] Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 
 [Luke 22:19] And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." 

 [1 Cor 11:24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me." 

 [John 20:22-23] And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." 
 [Rom 5:12] Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned - 
 [James 5:14-15] Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. One of my sources is Jimmy Akin from a blog list of his.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 13 күн бұрын
@@petermarshall5363 Would now like me to copy and past the JB, NJB, & CTS publisher & translator note at the front of their book explaining the relationship between the three and how each developed from the other or are we okay with short hand in KZfaq videos?
@petermarshall5363
@petermarshall5363 13 күн бұрын
@@alpha4IV Thank you so much for the work you have put into your four replies. I was not talking about the bible text but the footnotes. The text is approved but that does not extend to the textual notes. Some of which contradict or a critical of Catholic Teaching. I have copies of the following toog : NABRE, RSV CE, NRSV CE, NIV, Ignatius Catholic Study Bible (RSV 2CE), Jerusalem Bible and finally, Orthodox Study Bible. You might also be aware of several errors and omissions in the CTS New Catholic Bible. One example is Daniel 12. Verse 1 is incomplete. The following is missing after the word distress: "unparalleled since nations first came into existence. When that time comes, your own people will be spared, all those whose names are found written in the Book".
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 15 күн бұрын
Time Stamps Daily Disciple 1:54 Deconstructing and suffering with faith Evie Lupin 35:53 Objectification of the religious Shameless Popery 1:33:41 argument for the Unmoved Mover
@joshforester2634
@joshforester2634 16 күн бұрын
I mean, the pastor never got up and went "God commanded Joshua to destroy all the people in Canaan, so they murdered everyone", we basically sang about Joshua marching with the ark around Jericho and celebrating when the walls came down with all the other grade school kids
@robertdevino4109
@robertdevino4109 17 күн бұрын
All these bibles are full of lies and fabrications! If you are not learning what the Greek Biblical texts say then you have no idea what you are talking about and have been a victim of brain washing started way back in the 1st century! All these bibles mention hide the truth because they were created to control you ! Not to bring you the word of god! Go find out what the Ancient Classic Greek texts say and you will be shocked just how far off todays bibles are!
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 17 күн бұрын
Time Stamps: Wise Disciple 5:01 Metatron 17:46 Kristi Burke 27:06 Metatron talks about Boggie 47:23 Mythvision's Kipp Davis interview 1:03:45
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 18 күн бұрын
Correction: Word On Fire Bible
@davidshoesmith3780
@davidshoesmith3780 18 күн бұрын
I like the NRSV and I use it on a regular basis, but I also use the RSV as well. As far as I know both the RSV and the NRSV were produced by the National Council of Churches and are both scholarly translations, except the NRSV is a little more up to date and employs gender neutral language. The RSV was the gold standard in seminaries and the academic study of the scriptures before it was superseded by the NRSV and some critical scholars like James Tabor still recommend the NOAB RSV from time to time.
@andrewreed4216
@andrewreed4216 20 күн бұрын
Chief midegah of the ojibwe nation and the birch bark scrolls. The native Americans this year (2024) in September, are coming forth with their records because the church has ignored them. They are petitioning the lds church. They are releasing bits of information now. Check it out. Also check out, The nemenhah records, and "New Zealand skeletons in the cupboard ". And theres more. You may want to study what Chief midegah has done to reconcile with the jews already. Just because some church members havent always done the right thing, doesnt mean it wrong. You need to actually pray and ask God, and wait for an answer from God.
@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u
@Cindybin46user-nu4hg2dx6u 21 күн бұрын
That guy at about 47 minutes in used the f word!! How crude and offensive. And if he were LDS he would know not to use that language. That's how the Church changes you.
@user-vt3eu8hw3c
@user-vt3eu8hw3c 23 күн бұрын
From 1:21:56 until the end of the video, you appear to be mute. Don't know if it's just me. I can only hear the audio from the video you're reacting to and the outro music at that point
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 23 күн бұрын
thanx
@john211murphy
@john211murphy 26 күн бұрын
IF there was a real God, then there would ONLY ONE CHURCH.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 26 күн бұрын
there is only one true church
@john211murphy
@john211murphy 26 күн бұрын
@@alpha4IV HA HA HA HA HA. Oh! YOU ARE SERIOUS??? LET ME LAUGH EVEN HAR DER. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. SHEEP HA HA HA HA HA SLAVE HA HA HA HA HA HA H SNAKE OIL SALESMAN HA HA HA ....
@john211murphy
@john211murphy 26 күн бұрын
@@alpha4IV kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n618i7B8ur3Penk.html
@michaelsbeverly
@michaelsbeverly 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, thanks for the kind words. I appreciate the plug. I think the cat is saying, "I want tuna!"
@powerfulaura5166
@powerfulaura5166 29 күн бұрын
Bruh, when we say 'Roman Catholic', we are referring to your communion w/ - & fealty to - the See of Rome (& in any case, Latin Rite Catholics are like 98% of y'all lol, quit grasping at straws). We're not just gonna call you 'Catholic', for the same reason we, & you, refer to the 'Eastern Orthodox' in spite of their wishes to be called just 'Orthodox' (&/or 'Catholic' themselves!), because _all_ professing Christians claim catholicity, duh.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 24 күн бұрын
The Orthodox are Catholic. One day we will be one again, both sides want the schism to heal. We are two lungs of the same body.
@TheGretsch6120
@TheGretsch6120 29 күн бұрын
Dinesh’s next movie should be called “Rented Mule” because that’s what he got beat like and he did 95% of the work on himself.
@Kevigen
@Kevigen Ай бұрын
Don't worry about the music in my intro haha, I wrote and performed it myself, so, no worries about copyright or anything. Joe Schmidt was never a Trad, by the way, but I was. Was 1:19:59 aimed at me? If so, I am happy to stream with you! Also, the "You shouldn't have been Trad" - I mean, yeah, haha, I agree, but I was born into it, so, I didn't really have a choice! And hey man, geez, what a story! If I died for a time and saw God and he told me that Catholicism was true and all that, I would absolutely believe in Catholicism true haha! I've always said that some kind of personal experience like that is probably the best reason to believe anything - Catholicism or anything else. I agree though that you picked a weird video of mine to start with haha! More of my videos are like the rosary one than the Joe Schmidt! RE: 1:32:25 ish, you say that I dip my toes into the poison that I claim I am the antidote to, then you call me a hypocrite, because the information is in the Catholic Encyclopedia and is not hidden... that is what I said haha! I called it an open secret, and I even explained that its open because the info is easy to find but its a secret because nobody talks about it. You simply repeated what I just said! We're on the same page, brother! You skipped the whole "traditional story" part at the beginning, which is what I was taught growing up! At 1:40:00, you said “forgive your parents” - I have! But then you called Fr Calloway a Trad priest. Fr Calloway is a NO priest, not a Trad priest. I am glad that we agree that its crazy to think that Satan sent the black plague to destroy the evidence of the origin of the rosary… but then you called me a sucker? And you say “Take some responsibility”? I mean, I did, right? I stopped believing the traditional story, once I got old enough to realize that I was being lied to? Or do you think I am still a sucker? Also … please do not take a Grant Cardone course, even if you do have the money haha. Putting that money in the SP500 will be a much better return than a Grant Cardone class! At the 1:47:00 ish mark, you say “I am doing the same thing” - really? I am telling people that Satan hid evidence? Also, I am not the only one who grew up like this. Anyone who grew up in the FSSP like me believed this growing up too. Also - how old do I look haha? I am 28. You said “Works have nothing to do with salvation, you’re already wrong” at about 1:49:40 - I never said they did! I said that the work you put in matters more to me than the answer. And the snowball mic did suck haha, that is why I replaced it!
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I am so sorry for my lack of energy with your videos. I wasn't expecting to tackle them last evening. But I started late as my father had an issue just before stream and I was distracted. Not my best performance. I promise to examine/analyze any future vids of yours more attentively. Thanks for the great comment.
@Kevigen
@Kevigen 29 күн бұрын
@@alpha4IV yeah man no worries at all! I've never had to take care of a parent like that so I can't even imagine the kind of mental toll that takes. Shoot me a message when you're ready and I'd love to stream with you!
@ahmedelesily977
@ahmedelesily977 Ай бұрын
On which Bible should we agree: the Catholic one with 73 books, the Protestant one with 66 books, the Orthodox one with 73 books, or the Ethiopian Orthodox one with 81 books?
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I like ecumenical editions of the bible, but either the Catholic or Orthodox is fine. Catholic is easier to purchase.
@ahmedelesily977
@ahmedelesily977 Ай бұрын
@@alpha4IV i was arguing which one we agree on not which to buy which one is word of god it
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
The Catholic, The Orthodox and Even the Protestant (short testament ;-)) are all and each the word of God. Deuterocanon literally means second canon and treachery means third tear canon. I'd recommend a Catholic Bible, a Orthodox Bible, or an Ecumenical Bible. Which Translation you pick up really doesn't mater as long as it is a translation and not a paraphrase. To read into my answer, I am saying what I am saying, nothing more nothing less. All three options regardless of translation or language are the accurate. But the Word of God, the Logos, is Jesus Christ. Again, I am saying exactly what I am saying. I mean what I say and I say what I mean. Either the Orthodox or the Catholic canon I recommend and stand by. The extra few books in the Orthodox Cannon are acceptable to Catholics and tolerated by the Church.
@ahmedelesily977
@ahmedelesily977 Ай бұрын
This video is not accurate and contains errors, in addition to confusing a fiqh and aqeedah and making each one like a sect and a group considered as a sect or a movement as a sect or one has made an idea so it's sect . There are many comments on this video, which it would have been better to refer to. For a specialized scholar and accurate book, correct sources It would have been better to go back to them Not everything shown is true
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I meant AD!
@dalecaldwell
@dalecaldwell Ай бұрын
I always wish that there were some 'ecumenical edition' of the Bible that includes also the books of the Ethiopian canon.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
@@dalecaldwell agreed
@ultimateoriginalgod
@ultimateoriginalgod Ай бұрын
1:01:48 I think he's just getting olderer and his camera is getting better. It's a curse
@imjustheretogrill9260
@imjustheretogrill9260 Ай бұрын
You and Erick should have a conversation
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I doubt I'm big enough for him to give me the time, but I appreciate the sentiment
@lucidlocomotive2014
@lucidlocomotive2014 Ай бұрын
@@alpha4IVhe would do it if you reached out I bet you have a thousand subs
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I was very low energy for this one, The Catholic in this debate got creamed. It was very one sided. I'm kinda correcting and answering for him. He did not do well.
@stevenjames6830
@stevenjames6830 Ай бұрын
Honestly the best answer to all of this as who cares??? so what if the Bible has slavery and genocide who are they to judge this when they literally have no moral foundation or justification to oppose it because of their worldview. I would not even give them the argument that humans society has even evolved because you grant them their objective worldview what they are saying is an evolution is just them applying their egalitarian ideology and trying to imply that this is somehow objectively true which of course it is not. These arguments against Christianity only work with those who have left sensibilities. From what I saw, that was basically the main point cosmic skeptic was saying lol. That and the contradictions, which, as he should know, already are not really contradictions. Once you understand the literature and meaning of the text. There was nothing profound about this debate at all.
@DrKippDavis
@DrKippDavis Ай бұрын
@00:38:38 Oh? Do you have a better translation for the function of ענה in Deut 21:14?
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
@@DrKippDavis I was using the NAB. It translates "humiliated/dishonored" as Violated. I mention it in my "Gavin Said A Thing Video." I think the NAB (New American Bible) leaves less ambiguity but I don't know if it is more accurate.
@DrKippDavis
@DrKippDavis Ай бұрын
@@alpha4IV Yeah, the whole point being made there in the video was that the translation of this word is really challenging, and subject to considerable conjecture. Based on its usage in several contexts in which a woman is sexually penetrated, and then devalued, its appearance in Deuteronomy 21 is much more likely a reflection on the depreciation of her sexual utility as a marketable asset. Why? Because in several other instances this sense is conveyed by the responses and expected actions of her male overseers. So, this is why it is really important to know what's going on in the original texts, in their original languages before having strong reactions based on the English translations.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
It wasn't his translation choice that was bothering me. It was his callousness. And the term used in the NAB to identify the act that was done by the Male Soldier as a violation of the Captive the wife now ex-wife non-slave as having been violated leaves her with dignity saying that the cost of his admiration or lust can not be restored/paid back thus leave her alone. I am not saying that is how Dan or you would read/understand that passage but as someone who as a younger person went through trauma these words when I first read them and read them since were comforting.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
@@DrKippDavisIt wasn't Dan's translation choice that was bothering me. It was his callousness. And the term used in the NAB to identify the act that was done by the Male Soldier as a violation of the Captive the wife now ex-wife non-slave as having been violated leaves her with dignity saying that the cost of his admiration or lust can not be restored/paid back thus leave her alone. I am not saying that is how Dan or you would read/understand that passage but as someone who as a younger person went through trauma these words when I first read them and read them since were comforting.
@steverational8615
@steverational8615 Ай бұрын
Okay. I give up. This is simply an opinion piece. Interesting that you cherry pick the translation of the passage. And even add your own translation by ratcheting it up to “ rape”. Still waiting for your view and why it is the correct view.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I don't give a view. I'm also being consistent with both the NAB translation and the consensus of scholarship as presented in the Happer One SBL Study Bible, New Oxford Annotated Ecumenical Study Bible 5th Ed, The Crossway ESV Study Bible, Norton Critical Edition of the KJV commentary, and the Oxford Catholic Study Bible 3rd Ed.
@steverational8615
@steverational8615 Ай бұрын
Wow. A lot of words of condemnation (and some rather nasty words like stupid, dishonest) in the early part of the video so hoping you present some evidence to support your criticisms of Gavin.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I was being very gentle. Watch Randal Rouser's take on this if you want something with more bite. Or, if you have the stomach for it, watch the diablocritics rewatch/watch-together if you want to see scholars use "evidence" to irreverently eviscerate the "apologetic" used in Gavin's Original Video. And there was no nastiness in my video toward Gavin. His presentation while polished was stupid and ill advised. His wording was sloppy and offensive. I kept my references to the Bible, Livy, and Thucydides. As well as references to personal trauma I experienced as a child and how I personally dealt with such things. Not that any of that makes me an expert on anything. But I have helped others through trauma and recovery, especially in my 20's when I taught self defense along with being a personal trainer and martial arts instructor. I can tell you that Gavin misunderstands what survivors and victims hear when they read a passage such as this.
@CafeteriaCatholic
@CafeteriaCatholic Ай бұрын
"Our responses to our enemies becomes beacons"... I am not sure burning heretics is very compelling. On a more serious note, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it deeply. How do you deal wit the antijudaism present in official church teaching throughout the centuries. John Chrysostomos, Augustine of Hippo, the Lateran Councils all are deeply problematic. Only at Vatican II the church paddled back from the idea, that jews aren't allowed to hold the same rights as christians. A Quo Primum (1751) is a freely available source. Secondly the issue of slavery is deeply problematic to me. If the pope is protected by god from teaching false doctrine how does one explain the Bull Romanus Pontifex, wich clearly states that the enslavement of black africans is allowed in perpetuity, and everyone who teaches otherwise is to be excommunicated. You can freely access the Bull. I am not of the dark middleages type, I deeply appreciate how the thinking and the exchange with muslims and jews formed the intellectual framework of europe, but the church wasn't always interested in truth. On the contrary, starting from the 8th century when the western church became what it is today we see the church forging documents all over the place, wich continues up until the reformation becomes a strong opposition to those practises. Pseudoisidor was used in arguing for certain practises in the church, the donation of constatin was the bases for much of the power the pope held in the medieval period. Near to me there is a diocese whose first bishop was most likely invented by a later bishop to get the right to recieve the tithings of the locals. Bishop Wiho of Osnabrück. The officials of the church during the high and late middleages couldn't be distinquished from the aristocracy. To me only the begining secularisation of europe helped giving rights to all humans. It was Maximillien Robespierre and the national convent who decided that jews are allowed full rights and that slavery in the collonies was to be abolished. in 1794, way before Wilberforce was able to. The attitude of the modern popes to the human rights or civil rights like freedom of the press was mainly opposition. As is proven not only by catholic nations like portugal and spain but also in the papal states. The heliocentric model was opposed and books that dealt with it were on the index. My biggest stumbling block is the little efford the catholic church put into the opposition of Germany in the 30s and 40s especially if you compare it to the oppostion the church took to communism. Yes, many catholics were in the opposition to the N*** but what apologists often fail to see, most weren't. Even outspoken critics like von Galen were more furious about the state taking away the privileges of the church rather than what was happening to the jews. Don't get me wrong, as a purely human institution I can understand many of the problems I have listed, but I fail to see, how this institution is lead by christ. I would realy appreciate if you would read the Bull A Quo Primum and the Bull Romanus Pontifex. And perhaps share your thoughts on them, because I see very well, that you are much more interested in the actual historical record than apologists.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
I am surprised at your comments, only because I've seen you around KZfaq and possibly on Twitter as well although could be someone with a similar handle on Twitter, but I thought you were Catholic. Like, Catholic Catholic. I take from these questions and their phrasing that you aren't. It's very surprising. considering you take the moniker Cafeteria Catholic?
@CafeteriaCatholic
@CafeteriaCatholic Ай бұрын
@@alpha4IV I am not at Twitter, but I have commented on a few videos of yours. I chose this handle because firstly I like to point out, that every one is a cafeteria catholic. Because the catholic faith isn't a monolith but a subsummation of all different kind of views and ideas. Secondly, although I have left the visible body of the church, according to catholic teaching I still am a catholic. I reject many teachings the pope utters, like there are to many fa** in the priestly order, I still hold to catholic social teaching or the importance of caring for the poor. Thirdly, I am not against religion, I see value in the community, the ritual and the desire for the transendent. I would prefer a church that focuses on the myth and ritual rather than morality. The fatal flaw christianity brought to the world, was the connection between morals and faith. my understanding is, that ancient polytheism was much more interested in orthopraxy than orthodoxy. Religious wars were not necessary because deities could be syncretised into the well established believesystem. I still enjoy a good liturgy, but I despise it when the priest uses Leviticus to argue against gay marriage. Thankfully Germany is way more progressive than the US catholic church. Perhaps we know, that the second part of the Leviticus passage was still enforced 80 years ago and the church didn't protest against it.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
@@CafeteriaCatholic While I appreciate your comments, you've given me too much to respond to succinctly in a comment section. Instead, I will offer some initial and general thoughts here and may provide a longer video reply in the future. The question of anti-Semitism in the Catholic Church is more relevant to me than you may know. I have Sephardic heritage on my paternal side, and John Chrysostom is one of my favorite early church fathers. I handle this issue the same way I handle Paul's apparent anti-Semitism: by placing it in the context of its time and culture, then moving on. I was also surprised to find out that I had read *Quo Primum* and many of the documents you mentioned. Only *Romanus Pontifex* was new to me. Regarding the Catholic Church's relationship and involvement in both conquest and slavery, I could honestly answer in the same way as I did about its apparent anti-Semitism. However, in re-reading your suggested Papal Bulls, I noticed a fatal flaw in your estimations. This flaw also appeared in your second reply to me: you seem to misread history and either impose modern anachronistic ethos or display an overly cynical analysis. What is now considered unacceptable language was simply how people spoke at the time. You also conflate different issues, each deserving its own extensive response. Since I have already addressed anti-Semitism, I will move forward to your questioning of the Catholic Church's historical political heights, which condition is currently non-existent and no longer relevant. To answer your question: yes, the Catholic Church has experienced political corruption. However, this does not invalidate either the Papal office or the Church itself. Another problem with your cherry-picking of events is that you seem to interpret these examples with the worst possible motives, attempting to be either overly cynical or critical. As I engage in anti-apologetics on my channel, I do not feel the need to justify apologetical rhetoric that tries to minimize or recontextualize the bad actions taken by members of the Catholic Church. The truth should speak for itself, but your polemic approach to Catholicism is no better than the apologetic stances you aim to attack. I am not, nor have I ever been, a radical traditionalist. I've never been indoctrinated with that way of thinking or viewing the Church. I am a cradle Catholic who left the Church at 13 and returned at the age of 33. I have read extensively on Greek and Roman history, as well as some Mediterranean and Middle Eastern writings, all of the ancient type (in translation, of course). I also read almost all the major religious scriptures from other faiths long before I finished the Bible all the way through for the first time. My perspective on Catholicism is probably very different from yours. That being said, I do spot heresy and schismatic tendencies in some of your stated opinions. However, as I am no bishop, I will not label you as such. I grew up in the post-Vatican II Church and live in the spirit of Vatican II. Until the Church holds another binding Ecumenical Council in my lifetime, that is the spirit I will probably live under for the rest of my life. I have no problem with this and have a distaste for radical traditionalists, fundamentalists, and extremists of all stripes. As I hinted earlier, your views of world history and church history seem flawed. While you are overly cynical in your estimation of church history, you appear overly naïve and optimistic in your understanding of ancient world history. For instance, you claim that "Ancient polytheism emphasized orthopraxy over orthodoxy, which allowed for syncretism and the avoidance of religious wars." As someone who has spent a great deal of time-possibly over 600 books-studying the ancient world, mostly Greece and especially the Mycenaean period, but also with a love for almost all ancient cultures, especially anything pre-1000 BC, I can say that your view of their polytheism and ecumenical nature is naïve at best and counter to the truth at worst. Religious warfare did not begin with Judaism or Christianity. I hope this helps with your understanding of my position. If I do a video follow-up to these questions, I will give you credit in the video.
@CafeteriaCatholic
@CafeteriaCatholic Ай бұрын
@@alpha4IV You are right about my statements concerning polytheism. I was probably a bit too engaged. I am well aware that the official church would consider my views heretical but given the fact that I am kind of excommunicated that is only fitting. Maybe i misunderstood the term cafeteria catholic but I am under the impression it conotes someone who picks and chooses the parts he likes and rejects other parts. I guess my main problem is to see any signs of the divine in church history. Much like in bible history and probably the most important in my history. That led me to deconstruct most of my previous beliefs. Including the idea that G*d is an allpowerful allknowing and allloving creature. (creature is probably not the right term) I am not even sure a god exists. So probably the term agnostic catholic would be better. If you choose to answer in a video, firstly thank you for your effort. Secondly I know the polemical nature of my response, the thing I am most interested in, is the question wether the church fathers played a role in creating the cultural context in wich the medieval antisemitism/judaism could arise. Not knowingly or intentionaly but accidental. I can relate to your argument about Vatican II being the newest binding council, before my deconstruction I would have been in the same place. I guess behind my question concerning antisemitism lies a theodicy, God knew what would happen in my Country. When the N*** arrived they didn't need to teach antisemtism. They had secularized a religious tradition that grew out of othering and persecution by christians. Sometimes against the teaching of the church and sometimes with her blessing. Why didn't God protect his church from introducing such ideas in the minds of christians? I am sorry that my responses are so long, it is the first time I share these thoughts and I am doing this in a language that isn't my native tounge.
@kenaultman7499
@kenaultman7499 Ай бұрын
Alex mopped the floor with Dinesh. It wasn't even close. Dinesh was embarrassed.
@TalenLee
@TalenLee Ай бұрын
It's always odd to come across a video with a channel like this with literally no comments. Hi! Hope you had a fun time doing this!
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
Video starts at 11:11
@pmaitrasm
@pmaitrasm Ай бұрын
Based upon the performance, preparedness, and patience of Alex O’Connor in his debates, he appears to be a formidable opponent. Dinesh D’Souza did the best a man could possibly do. The things he mentioned in the debate are things most teenagers born in a Roman Catholic family would say. This is because they simply accept what their church fathers say. The church fathers get away with saying anything because nobody in the church will ever question or counter the church father. Dinesh D’Souza also typically speaks to his own coterie of audience. In other words, just like the church fathers, Dinesh D’Souza has traditionally been preaching to the choir. Could anyone else have done better in place of Dinesh D’Souza? I highly doubt it. It is very difficult to defend a position that the god of NT is the same as the god of OT. Most people don’t question this because they seek safety in numbers, do not want to be isolated, and would not take a contrarian position to what is generally perceived as the _kata holicos,_ or opinion of everybody, except that ‘everybody’ is typically a small group. Here is a hypothetical situation. - Make a team of three people, with the following members: (1) Patriarch of the Orthodox Church, (2) Pope of the Vatican, (3) the top individual from the biggest of the Protestant churches. - Now pit this team against Alex O’Connor. Chances are, Alex O’Connor would still win. If the debate drags on for a long time over several days, then chances are, the three members in the team, instead of fighting Alex O’Connor, would start fighting each other, and might even end up anathemizing each other.
@kevindavis4709
@kevindavis4709 Ай бұрын
I’m a blood bought born again child of God I’ll say I agree with you. Like telling people it’s okay too cuss well a fella like my old self be like okay I’ll cuss everyone i talk and lust every time I see a good looking woman. Now that i know better I do better I slip at times say a cuss word or if a see a good looking woman I now say God if you made anything more prettier than a woman you kelp it to yourself. Point of this comment is I listened to her videos didn’t take me long too see she’s talking out of both sides of her mouth contradicting herself in so many ways. Like don’t give money to your pastor so they can feed the community but get to me so I can post videos on KZfaq. Sorry, but that’s what I hear from these so-called KZfaqrs preaching. Maybe I’m wrong or costs money to post a video on KZfaq.
@PrabinGolapi-ji4bf
@PrabinGolapi-ji4bf Ай бұрын
Comment doesn't prove that Dinesh loose debate😂😂
@brianbrennan5600
@brianbrennan5600 Ай бұрын
ex-Catholic atheist here who happened on this due to KZfaq autosuggest...anyways condolences. Not joking seriously. My Catholic brain was in pain. Sure his debate style wasn't great (very hand wavey, more or less asserting that he rejected the premise of the debate, and very tangential...demanding not to be interrupted as he wandered into the rhetorical wilderness) but he also just came off like a purely cultural Christian who was asking for assent to a shared interpretation of literature because he thinks it's a necessary cultural touchstone, not because he actually wants people to believe... His poor priest man. Anyways y'all have better representatives. Whatever side you're on, any discussion that gets this much attention, even if it does have a debate format (which I'm not a huge fan of because it so often comes down to a class in rhetoric) ought to have representatives that bring their A-game.
@ye_zus
@ye_zus Ай бұрын
Dinesh did everything he could to appeal to the audience and appear unflappable (he barely even glanced at Alex directly, let alone engage with the questions) and still he crumbled. That's because he has to defend an indefensible position! Thinking that some backwards anachronistic interpretation of the Bible or that a good and powerful God changed his mind on genocide (99% of the way through human history) are good explanations for anyone other than those already convinced is a major mistake
@B.S._Lewis
@B.S._Lewis Ай бұрын
Hate to break it to you alpha. The Catholic church stopped being a safe haven from hell a looooong time ago.
@koppite9600
@koppite9600 Ай бұрын
Who built it though?
@B.S._Lewis
@B.S._Lewis Ай бұрын
​@koppite9600 I don't know "who". But I know they built this city on rock n roll!
@koppite9600
@koppite9600 Ай бұрын
You didn't even attempt a Google search? For how long will you be in denial?
@B.S._Lewis
@B.S._Lewis Ай бұрын
@@koppite9600 I don't care who built what church. That's why I didn't Google anything.
@koppite9600
@koppite9600 Ай бұрын
@@B.S._Lewis It's not like we can't tell when a person is in denial.
@midlander4
@midlander4 Ай бұрын
"I believe it's true because I want to believe it's true". Congratulations.
@koppite9600
@koppite9600 Ай бұрын
He has arrived at that conclusion.
@pmaitrasm
@pmaitrasm Ай бұрын
I would have liked to have a discussion on the Alex-Dinesh Debate. The livestream started late at night so I had to leave. I think it is worth considering why the performance of Dinesh was so poor. A lot of people are upset with Dinesh. I would wager had it been anyone else, the outcome would not have been much different. Even Dr. Peterson did not do well with Alex.
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV Ай бұрын
Gavin or Trent would have done better as would have Jimmy. & I think Trent and Alex have gone a few spars.