Yep a full removal and clean is definitely the best. Check out the first video in this series kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ncmAaL1jsMmbiGQ.html where I first tested liqui moly before a full removal and clean with oven cleaner and a pressure washer

Why not? Modern engines have friction as much as older ones. Why wouldn't you want to reduce that and reduce wear?

No worries yeah I've referred back to it a couple of times! My NW now has 330k on the clock and still behaving about the same. Not sure what you mean about build-up of 3?

Good point; although I did actually test the Penrite a few months later on a hot engine and it didn't still make any difference. I didn't end up posting that video because I felt it didn't add any new information (the product still didn't work) and would only have further discredited Penrite, which isn't what I set out to do in my videos

@@TheMusingGreg Good to know . Looks like I won’t be buying Penwrong intake cleaner .

So to confirm, the existing dual battery system will be unchanged, while the BCDC is going to be mounted at the front of the vehicle and its output connect to the new battery at the rear? And that new rear battery isn't going to be connected to the original two in any way (other than sharing an earth)? If that's the case I can't see a problem with it, just make sure the wiring to the rear battery is thick enough as 50A is a lot of current. I'm not sure what purpose the 3rd battery serves but I assume you've got your reasons. I just wasn't sure if your new battery was going to be run in parallel with one of the two existing batteries, in which case the answer is a bit more complicated.

Yep that's my current thinking mate, easier to clean the soft stuff even if it needs doing a bit more often

@TheMusingGreg egr plate and the 7 mm hole it seems to keep its self clean🤷

Interesting I might try that thanks!

No worries, please share it on at your end; the more people who know, the better everyone's chances of keeping the unbiased information flowing!

Cool that's helpful to know, thanks very much for sharing!

Yeah that sounds like the Hard Korr budget range without the 'crocskin' surface of the one I tested. The crocskin one worked really well, check it out if you've not seen it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/prapkph90pOxn2Q.html

Thanks very much for your kind donation! From my experience I would say no, as the catch can didn't stop the build-up. It did reduce it a little, however it was also very dry and harder to remove; and the dry soot without the lubricating blowby oil could potentially be more abrasive on the engine (no evidence, just my thinking). I would suggest get the manifold removed and cleaned every 100,000kms or so, possibly with using something like liqui moly at each service to slow the build-up, but as shown in my various reviews it doesn't clean it completely. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions!

But if the manufacturer says they can handle it they should be able to...

@@TheMusingGreg Deep cycle battery is for accessories , such as bilge pump , lighting , radio etc ... boats have a seperate engine start battery ..Maximum discharge rate is 100 amps , starter will easily draw as much as 350 amps .....

Yeah I get that, but if the manufacturer says they can handle it then it's their problem if it doesn't

@@TheMusingGreg Apparently the "engineers" at dcs have confused the cell ratings ...Usually they have one rating that states the maximum current before it bursts into flames and another that states the maximum current before permanent cell damage ...So you can start your car without it exploding , but not very many times ...

Glad it was helpful, thanks for your comment!

That's certainly what companies I've dealt with have done, including Redarc and Hard Korr. And customers see that and know they listen

Hey mate, sure here it is: ebay.us/rep0Wb

@@TheMusingGreg legend, cheers

That's interesting info thanks. I've found the dry build-up without the catch can harder to remove than the wet oily stuff, when testing the various manifold cleaning products I've shown on this channel. When you've done those manifold cleans, what type of build-up have you found and how have you cleaned it?

Thanks for sharing your experience mate!

Thanks Stephan, we all stand behind you and hope for a positive outcome! Do you know if the court documents are publicly available somewhere, so people can read for themselves exactly what DCS are alleging? Louis Rossman has done a follow up video if you haven't seen it yet which could be helpful for your case. All the very best mate, and thanks for stopping by and dropping a comment! 👍

@@TheMusingGreg At this stage, I have only made them available to other Legal Professionals, but that may change later on.

No worries, I didn't know if those sorts of documents were usually publicly accessible somewhere, had a bit of a look but couldn't find them so thanks for confirming. Please do let the KZfaq community know if you decide to share them so we can see what they're arguing. Cheers mate and my very best wishes!

@@TheMusingGreg wont share publicly but you can email me and happy to provide

Yep I sure think so! More people probably know about DCS now than they ever did before, and this is all they know!

I think it would depend on where the chains are attached to van and vehicle. If there's equal length from the hitch to the chains attachment point in each direction when chains are taut, the cross point will be below the hitch. Not very likely I admit but still more chance of catching it than with them not crossed where there's no chance

Well only if they win! Though I agree that (without knowing the details of their case) them taking this action seems unnecessary. All the more reason to share the video and support Stephan!

It appears only the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) has anti-SLAPP laws in place, but this case is being pursued in the State of Queensland which appears to have none. So they could be doing that; although if that was the strategy the amount of negative publicity would suggest it's backfired spectacularly on them.

@@TheMusingGreg I'd definitely get the media reporting on this case and on the lack of Anti-SLAPP protection that leads to this kind of corporate behavior.

@@davepowder4020 Good idea, I've reported it to the A Current Affair program which covers stories like this here in Australia. Will be interesting to see if they pick it up!

@@TheMusingGreg It's definitely a good step when it comes to protecting everyday people from powerful corporations and other wealthy entities.

It depends if that Anderson plug is connected 1) straight to one of the batteries, or 2) to the solar input of the Redarc charger, or 3) to the output of the Redarc charger. Anderson plugs near the tow bar are usually designed as a 12v OUTPUT to a caravan, so I doubt it's option 2 (but if it is then yes you could connect a solar panel straight into that connector with no regulator). If it's option 1, yes you could connect a solar panel but you would definitely need to run it through a solar regulator to bring the voltage down, otherwise you'll fry your battery and vehicle electrics. If it's option 3, then no you wouldn't be able to connect a solar panel to it, however there would probably be a separate solar input to the Redarc unit somewhere which you need to locate, and then you can plug a panel straight into that. If you have a multimeter, switch it to Volts and measure the battery voltage on each battery with the engine turned off. Then measure the voltage onto the two terminals of the Anderson plug and see if it matches either of the first two readings. If it does, chances are the Anderson plug is connected directly to that battery in which case it's option 1. That's about the best I can do from what you've told me but let me know if you have any more questions and I'll do my best to help

Thanks for your support Hank, please share it on your socials to help Stefan!

You're right simply bringing a lawsuit doesn't prove anything, although to take that action would usually mean the plaintiff thinks they have a solid case to argue (unless they're just trying to scare the other party into taking it down). But I think just the idea to sue someone over a review is outrageous to many.

You've got that right! If they lose I expect they'll shut down and reopen under another brand name and it'll all start over! 🙄 Someone already said here they dealt with this company under an older company name and had similar experiences.

Ha yep you're probably right, and that would be a sad day!

Yeah that's not a bad idea. Shame it should even have to be a consideration though!

The best thing you can do mate you share it on all of your socials! That's the way we'll get the word out there. You're sure right there about the solar and the regulators! I've looked at both of these elsewhere on my channel and couldn't agree with you more! And that right there is value of independent reviews which is why this matters so much.

I think you're far from alone there mate! With so many brands to choose from out there, this is all many people will ever know about that DCS which surely can't work in their favour!

@@TheMusingGreg it can't work in my favor. I think it can. I already boycotted. Most products who does all the chemicals they put in the food. And how customer service works. More people just stop buying products. They'll start listening

Yeah that's what I meant, it works for you but won't work in DCS' favour for exactly the reasons you mentioned. 👍

Thanks Max, yeah Louis' original video makes that point really well, which is a very concerning revelation. I also saw Louis' follow-up where he points out ARENA (Federal Government agency) testing on grid-scale batteries including DCS. Extremely interesting and revealing if you haven't seen it! Thanks for your support, please share as widely as you can to help the broader public get across this issue! 👍

@@TheMusingGreg Hey Greg, I'd like to see the video you mentioned by Louis on the grid-scale batteries, but I can't find it at his channel, or doing YT searches! Do you know what the video Title is? Cheers, Max

@@maxhugen Sure mate here it is. I'll add it to the description too. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9mIq7Fkzt-6YoE.html

@@TheMusingGreg That video is priceless! Louis is ruthless. 🤣 Appreciate the link. 👍

@@maxhugen Cheers mate yeah he doesn't mince his words!

I'm not certain, possibly not; but my old red one in this video was filled with petrol not diesel

I think you speak for many of us there Paul! 👍👍

Yup, I've heard the phrase "any publicity is good publicity" but I'm not sure that applies here! This is literally all I know about DCS, so why would I go and deeply research if there's another side when I can just choose another company?

Yup, I've heard the phrase "any publicity is good publicity" but I'm not sure that applies here! This is literally all I know about DCS, so why would I go and deeply research if there's another side when I can just choose another company?

Too right! DCS even fraudulently (IMO) downgraded their battery warranty during this fiasco, but were found out using archived web pages! So that affects anyone who purchased a battery from them as well.

Succinctly put James! Yeah honest reviews sometimes hurt! It's why I privately buy almost all the products I review, no-one has any expectations then. I certainly hope this case sends a message to other companies against considering similar action.

Yeah it looks like he's done that, and the trouble seems to have started after he published his findings.

@@TheMusingGreg I wouldn't even get a solicitor involved. If he can prove he's right why worry...

@@TheMusingGreg Yeah, they are trying to bury him in litigation debt, most people will just give up rather than bankrupt themselves over a case

Yeah I can't speak for Stephan but maybe there's more to it than that. There are people who have been right, but fancy lawyers have managed to twist an outcome against them

Yep and that's why it's so important that we all help Stephan out here, as this case really is for all of us

Cheers John, appreciate you taking the time to bring this issue to light too! 👍 Take care

Too right, no matter how apparently “good” the product might be if they feel the need to go to court there isn’t really any reason to believe a single word being said. The sad part is that their legal counsel really should have made it clear to them that this is as the case, win or lose no one considering buying the product has even the slightest reason to believe a single word of the online reviews of the product.

Well I guess some may do that, but I feel most people want to leave the next generation a planet they can enjoy just like we did.

Very true. I guess it depends on what exactly they're alleging he did wrong, but it's also probably a lot easier to track down and take action against a local like Stephan who they've already got full name and address for as a result of sending him the free batteries, than anonymous Amazon reviewers who might be outside Australia's legal jurisdiction!

As a general principle you may be right, but I believe DCS stated that these batteries were suitable for under bonnet use. As such, under bonnet batteries would have to have controls built in to handle that sort of voltage and current. If they didn't, then it comes back to the manufacturer providing wrong information about what the batteries can really do.

@@TheMusingGreg I agree. Doing a little research though, it seems using lithium as a starter battery is even more problematic than even I had thought. Apparently it is hard on the battery as well as the alternator and the flow of power for the operating internal combustion engine. There may be some alterations possible, but it is pretty much considered a "not worth it, do at your own risk" thing to do. It is advised to keep your lithium battery more or less isolated from the lead acid starter battery.

@@OWK000 Interesting; there are a few companies now promoting lithium batteries as being rated safe for under bonnet use. I wonder if they're meaning as a cranking battery, or just under bonnet storage of an auxiliary battery?

I actually went looking for about 10 minutes to see if this was public information to find exactly what their beef was. But having had no involvement in this I wasn't really sure where to look. I found an outline of the different cases in the Queensland district court site, but none of the detailed documents Stephan has which would have answered that question. If anyone happens to know where to find those documents please post them.

@@TheMusingGreg The case number for the lawsuit is Proceeding Number 1169 of 24, filed in the District Court of Queensland hope it helps. You can search in Fedcourt website should be open for all to see.

Cheers!

Yeah it depends on what they're complaining about. Everything I've seen so far indicates that it's the review he posted that's at issue, as opposed to comments others have made regarding that review. The original review has commented turned off at the moment

Yep I think you're completely right on that one, it's the combination of the two that makes the worst impact.

Yeah it sounds to be pretty normal from what most people are saying. You're right the timing chain is just forward of the oil filler, although that would more circulate air rather than blow it out. But either way it seems to be normal.

Thanks for sharing your personal experiences Peter, it's helpful to understand given I'd never heard of either party.

@peterj5751 can you remember the prior name of the company? I'd be interested to look them up.

@@TheMusingGreg I’m sorry but I can’t. All record online seems to have been removed.

​@@peterj5751 No worries thanks anyway. The removal of all past data in itself is curious...

Cheers Allan, yes I think many will be very interested in how this pans out, hopefully in favour of free speech! It will be interesting to see if DCS ends up regretting this approach, I guess time will tell.

No worries Jack, yes it's great to see so many people getting behind Stephan, for all of us! Spread the word!

Yes Mike I think a lot of people find their response a bit misplaced, and if all is as it seems (which it may not be) I suspect your assessment will be pretty right!

DCS have shot themselves in the foot - almost 2 million viewers have seen this over a number of channels.