absolutely correct!

you got that right, in a normal reality I would say it should be an easy Trump win, but in this whatever we have now, it is not a given

I hear Groms are alot of fun. This would certainly be a radical step from that! If you do jump to this just keep expectations real. This bagger wont be playful like the Grom but will take further more comfortably and it still blow massive holes in your wallet doing it. Thanks for dropping by, Ride safe.

@@BigKatMotovlogs thank you for the advice much appreciated my guy! 🤙

I don't believe anyone said you couldn't. Ride on and ride safe. However, that doesn't change the fact of what Harley is and what's currently happening to them as a corporation and a brand. I get what you're saying about your tranny dolphin scenario and I agree BUT when they want me to disregard reality so I can affirm their delusion then I won't and that's where the issues begin.

@@BigKatMotovlogs If the reality is that a person identifies as a tranny dolphin person, wouldn’t you be the one who is disregarding reality to make yourself comfortable?

I don't think so because reality should be rooted in facts not identity. They can identify however they wish but it doesn't change the fact of what they truly are. I will reside in the fact of what they are not in what they wish to identify themselves as.

@@BigKatMotovlogs Reality is rooted in facts. Mrs. Trans Dolphin REALLY identifies as a trans dolphin. That’s a fact. What’s the purpose in refusing to accept that fact? Disrespect ? Cruelty? It may also be a fact that Mrs Trans Dolphin was born as a genetic man, but we’re discussing the present, not the past.

@@6thMessenger He can identify however he wishes but he is STILL but a man, he was born a man and he will always be a man. His subjective reality may be how he identifies, but that's not objective reality. Objective reality is where i will stay so i wouldn't play into his subjective reality. It's not disrespectful or cruel, it's simply genetic science. He was born a male and will always be so regardless of his self identity.

Remember the goal should never be destruction but reconciliation, hopefully they wont Bud Light themselves and they'll be more like TSC and Deere.

Its not about the product, that's silly. Harley as a product as it's own issues for sure. This is always about the corporation and it's policies.

@BigKatMotovlogs so how does their stance on social issues effect the consumer?

I would say because the consumer is part of the society that these companies and their big money investors, are trying to effect by what they support. If the majority of that companies consumer base isn't on board with what that company is doing then they have the right to speak up about it.

@BigKatMotovlogs just don't buy the product. Problem solved. Why have a hissy fit about it.

I don't know that there is a direct connection between these agencies and our tax dollars but these scores are used mainly for investment purposes. The other side of ESG score is ESG risk, and HD is low risk which means investors with "woke" mentalities can invest in HD safely. Vanguard and Blackrock hold the #1 and #3 positions respectively as top investors so this makes sense. Which is why the ESG score being mediocre was a shock to me.

A true “liberal woke” company would be pro-consumer and lower the costs of their motorcycles. Liberals are supposed to be the supporters of the common man and anti-corporate greed, yet they are hypocrites. Inclusivity is a great thing, but they are excluding the people who buy their motorcycles: working class Americans.

company goes 'yeah we want some virtue signalling and cater to 0.03% of the population who aren't even our consumers just for the sake of it, stop any investments into R&D to build something descent and competitive on the market'. dei doesn't fight racism but it forces it. america is melting pot but it's not a playground for everyone to impose their delusions on everybody and force them to live the way the deem unacceptable. you can be good only if you follow their way not yours. sounds very democratic.

hey now, it's one of the most comfortable t shirts I own lol

yep , last I checked Vanguard was #1 and BR was #3

I pretty much agree with a good portion of what you said but I can help you with the woke thing... Woke was originally started from the BLM/Antifa mob movement as way to identify a black person who has been enlightened to the perception that institutions were systemically rigged against their best interests. It has since been culturally widened to mean almost everything on the leftist side of the political and social landscape like trans issues. For example letting men ( xy chromos ) box women ( xx ) chromos. If you're good with that then you're woke. The problem arises when corporations like HD begin supporting these types of issues in an unbalanced or heavy handed way and their customer base who typically isn't that way find out then the boycotts begin.

Thumbs up for actually going to the trouble of explaining "woke". I missed this comment at first. I appreciate that your a woke purist but woke isn't restricted to it's origins anymore...honestly not sure when it happened but it definitely has.

That's right, but know matter how many times you tell them what it really means they don't want to know, and keep using it.

Sure I do lol. I understand it's history but also understand that culturally it being used in a wider sense than just the black community and their waking to the social injustices they perceive. It's only a shame they didn't wake up to see it was Democrat shackles they've still been living in. But they are waking up more and more from the leftists fog and that's a good thing. So since "woke" is used in a wider sense commonly than strictly a black use, I and others have used it appropriately.

Yes, I think it is good for black folks to understand what they're up against. Because that is all it means and nothing else.

Woke is good for the garbage bin

Honda Rebel is a mainstay bike I was happy to see them add the 1100 to the line up

I concur. Personally I like what some are doing. The issue of their own cost in buying a bike and then dressing it up to fit them personally is a heavy tag sometimes. Instead of tossing that away they are debadging their bikes. You won't see a HD logo on them. Also the HD tent at Sturgis appears to have been empty of patrons this year. Word is getting out! As far as buying an older bike I like the pre zeiss era.. that puts you in Project Rushmore territory if you don't want to go way back.

@@BigKatMotovlogs Nothing wrong with a solid Rushmore bIke IMHO, just use those spare pennies for fat updates and de-badgeing. Get what you want exactly how you want it without giving people that conspire against you your money. Lots of companies are dropping their DEI stance publicly as it's hurting their bottom line. Harley will do the same if it hurts enough. Can't wait for the new Harley Drag Queen Edition.

No we aren't.

being religious just as bad as being woke. it's 2024. there is no god. and there is only two genders.

I can agree with you on a few points here 1. It is a secular world view, 2. It's not unexpected, 3.It is a spiritual problem foremost in the sense that we war not against flesh and blood but against principalities , powers and spiritual wickedness in high places. However, We have been in the last days, generally speaking, for the last 2k years, we know this evil will not triumph ultimately..these world views are destructive even to themselves and are unsustainable. 4 You're right ultimately our hope is in Christ and not man but that doesn't mean we don't participate in the tools God has allowed for us to use for choosing our leaders. Lastly Christ is King , he is in complete control over His creation and none of this is happening in the shadows, so be encouraged. This is one itty bitty battle in a much larger war so pray and do whatever else you need to.

And a stupid one at that. I currently own one, and grew up with them. And they are too expensive in every single aspect for how unreliable they are and how little you get for your money

That's not the point but I think you know that. That's like saying it's just farm equipment , who cares..or just a beer who cares. Truly if it were about the specific product you'd be right. But it's never about the product itself, always going to be about the corporation and it's policies

@@BigKatMotovlogs yeah but not everyone who buys a motorcycle thinks of all of those things, like I’m not thinking about the things Yamaha and Suzuki are doing and their mindsets when I buy a motorcycle.

And you're right. When I bought my Kawi I was the same way, but I think the difference is when a company, especially as high profile as HD, adopt these sorts of policies and support the causes that are pointed out in the linked vids then people, if they disagree, have an obligation to speak out. I think if HD was the other way and implemented policies and such that were supporting agendas counter to this like mandatory employee bible study hour, donating to pro life clinics and so on you'd see a major back lash. I feel at the end of the day people just want companies to not pander to any side and just make and sell bikes, beer, or tractors.

Harley Gavison? 😂 that’s a good one.

@@mrdude3540 I meant to type Harley Gayvidson. You get the point

I respectfully disagree with your assessment but you did give me a good laugh at your comparison with the alphabet clan.

don't worry friend, you are weird too

Those words go hand in hand snowflake

Saying woke like an umbrella term for everything one doesn't like is weird because that isn't what it means.

@@MadAnthonyI Woke is making the minority more important than the majority. When 5% of the population get more attention, more rights and more favorable policies than the other 95%... society has failed and will eventually collapse. The minority cannot run and defend this country by themselves.

@@MadAnthonyI nice word salad

only companies with a high enough ESG score will be saved when they reset the global economy. THATS why it seems they dont care about boycotts. your boycott really is hollow when theyre changing to digital anyway and 60% of the market will disappear overnight, effectively leaving them with a monopoly. none of this is coincidental and all of it is by design, eat ze bugs and be happy with a 250sq/ft flat and carbon tax for wiping your ass with real paper. just remember its all for your own good.

The only crap I grew up with were so called men trying to get into my pants - there are lots of these - they are the woman haters that want to roll back a woman's right to health care like J.D Vance, the Couch guy with the makeup.. As Christian nationalists- they don't even practice Christianity - but instead the devils bible !

NCStoney! Thanks for dropping by again and the thoughtful comment. I want to answer you completely so my comment is going to long too lol. Yes you're right every major corp -- or maybe better put, every publicly traded corp is subject to these scores. They are used mainly for investment purposes and usual subjects like Vanguard , State Street and Vanguard have grubby mits all over this. Most of the time your right boycotts don't amount for much but the Bud Light thing showed it can work. They still haven't recovered to their previous standing. TSC and Deere didn't even want to find out so they reversed course. I think the reason why boycotts haven't been as effective in the past is because when the VG or BR are your primary investors and they say "do this or implement this policy" and you do. They know the public will freak over it and they don't care. The investors will pad the business through the transition period. Now to the middleman problem, you're right and it sucks. The guys and gals in the middle take the beating when the consumers and the corporations go at it. But might I suggest they aren't our problem..I know sounds harsh but hear me out and if you disagree I respect that. My perspective is we didn't start this war, we didn't hire those people( of which i was one many years ago ). They are in the care and service of that company, it the responsibility of that company not us to safeguard their employees. If they cared about their people they would reverse their course and have 2 wins. They would save the jobs of the people they hired and they would save their consumer base buys their product. Boycotts, in my opinion, should never be about destruction but reconciliation. I hope HD chooses reconciliation and reverses it's course. To your last statement about buying local. Brother I am with you 110% my wife and I just had breakfast at local coffee shop. I support local as much as I can.

Yes it is quite different. It is more stable. Being a bigger bike, the weight has it's advantages at times. Stay safe and thanks for stopping by!

Thanks for the feed back! So far all actual evidence points that way. I just wish over "investigations" had teeth to them so we could actually get to the bottom of these types of things without the circus. Ride safe out there!

Yo thanks for the watch and comment! What after market thing got you self cancelling turn signals? I could be wrong but I didn't think they had that stock. Ivan tune is for real, and the reliability is spot on. If your not addicted to alot of tech the Vaquero is a great choice. Have a good one!

Indeed!

Hey thanks for dropping by, I always appreciate it. Yea the first part of the park where I am off my bike was actually a reshoot because the original footage didn't take. I didn't catch it until i was home lol. So i did my honey do's, then went back out. It was over 100 again by then lol. After the reshoot I retreated to a nearby Casey's for a bit👍Have a good one, stay safe out there!

@@BigKatMotovlogs Yikes!!😬

Thanks for dropping by and the comment! I have no issue with that, the are many days, especially if we get a string of 100+, that I can easily persuade myself to jump in my air conditioned truck also since I don't work in a climate controlled environment. Ride on and stay safe!

Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment. The mirrors are stock for the bike, they work pretty good. I too have been seen with only my helmet and gloves when going to the local grocery store a few blocks away. But when I'm commuting it's a full gear ensemble. So trying to manage heat is a thing, sometimes that can mean taking my air conditioned truck 😂. Ride safe out there!

Oh man you got that right. I gotta be honest, I don't remember if I said this in the vid, but on hot days like the one I filmed on , it REALLY tests my loyalty to ATGATT lol. Anyway, I appreciate you dropping by stay safe , stay hydrated!