If you had Hellleys on you could roll your feet on the ground

So Statorade is fine to use with VESC + FM Motor but not with a full FM Board? As I see FTL said don't use Statorade with FM boards

Hope you'll do a summary video at the end of these tests to make it easier to share the results

No puedo conectarme al Thor 300, mensaje,; Could not read firmware version. Make sure that the selected port really belongs to the VESC. If you are using UART, make sure that the port is enabled, connected correctly (rx to tx and tx to rx) and uses the correct baudrate,,,, AYUDA

I’ll be transferring to San Diego next April we will have meet up and test my VESC boards on San Clemente hills. Just curious if I need a boat to get there lol.

Looks like the GTS motor uses significantly less battery power to climb the hill compared to the Plus motor. GTS must use thicker wires inside to reduce losses.

thanks for using the black background on the data screen. Makes it easier to see all the numbers.

Overheated mine several times. Oit typically runs in the 170s it will captain Morgan and buzz at 183

love these tests 🎉

@surfdado so at what temp should i set my Gtv Mte to cutoff/warn me to keep it safe?

Does the Hypercore have enough torque with the stock battery if I just change out the controller?

Future motion move so slow in the innovation department, I don’t think they will ever catch back up, I gave up on them. Do you think Tony is building an 30s controller that is integrated into the cannon core with 15s2p pack in the back and front? It’s already possible with the VOW plus x12-30s/cannon core design, I just worry about the heat!

If you look at the energy stats in the app it would make us believe the GT is using more battery power than even the GTS does. Maybe the GT controller is adding extra heat into the motor, but the motor is not using it to propel you up the hill.

FM app predicting 2 miles range left based on your hill climb power usage. 150wH/mile!

Great to see the GT has improved braking on the downhills making it much safer for riders.

Don't let the neodymium magnets get too hot. They won't last as long.

im so glad I never bought a GT.

Hi, I have a weird problem with my 84v VESC board with Tronic 250r it was working fine almost for 100 miles and I was quite happy, but then one day when I started riding it, I got a pushback around 10mph from that moment (battery was not overcharged), I didn't change any settings previously, I check all settings and they all looks good. I even reinstalled firmware on it, and then did a fresh setup from scratch, still had the same result. I checked the battery and motor, and everything is in good working order, any advice what it can be??

GT with GTS motor with braking turned to +4 and aggression turned to +4. This would be a good test 🤓

So are you advocating the use of Statoraid on Hypercore VESC boards?

For science 🧪

🤙🏻

Your videos never waste our time, sir. I’ve learned something from every single video. This series has been excellent, as usual.

Two years ago I tested my GT at ambient 85F-90F. It will raise the noise and blinking red status bar when it hit motor temperature of 190F. It will force you to stop, The controller is better with spect to temperature though!

Stupid things like this and failed board engages without surestart are terrible.

Hi does your super flux make a high pitched whine if not how can I tune it out my ZVF is currently at 27KHz please let me know thanks for the help👍🏽

Does the HT motor give more torque? Seems you are hitting noise.

I am loving these comparisons

It's crazy how it climbs that Steep Hill only 20% duty cycle.

Is there a noticeable torque difference between the HT and mk3? I’d also love to hear your pros/cons of 30s1p vs 20s2p (other than top speed).

First!

Can I save more than one board to my watch? Or will it only remember one at a time.

Not sure if its the camera angle or not but damn. That hill is steep AF.

@surfdado great video! I have a question, I'm making my pint vesc. im using a vesc kit that uses this same ubox but im still using my stock battery and i ordered a 15s Nexus BMS V2. Before, I used the pint vnr kit using two 60 volt greenworks batteries. Can i still hook those external batteries to the vec pint to add range? I already have them on hand and I would like to avoid buying a new battery, so wanted to know if after I setting up the pint with the vesc basically stock because of the battery, I can just add those external batteries for the range in the same sort of vnr connection?

LOVE this build. Dream Powertrain 🫠

TY Surfdado, for someone Finally givin us a motor/controller thermal test on the GTS 🏆 i have a GT-V with a GTS stator & enjoying much better thermal performance this summer season, especially with float blocks And cold ones installed as well. also glad to see the MTE is a worthwhile upgrade with similar, even slightly better thermals, tho I'll probably end up goin 6" & callin it a wrap. I'm a NY-City rider that Barely trails 🤙🏾✨️

What BMS did you use?

hi... i have a question... in the vesc tool the motor current max corresponds to the direct current that goes to the motor or to the phase current? thanks

Can you tell me what resistor you used?

THANK YOU SO MUCH! Just got my Board set up, you even covered my initial issue i had with the Ubox voltage being set too low and not allowing me to run motor detection. (though i figured that out before reaching this part) Thank you so much for taking the time to do what you do and help get so much useful information out there to help guys like me figure out VESC. you are my preferred source.

What a sexy GTS! 😉 I’m glad I could help you out Dado! What a great video!

Love the videos, surfdado!!

Would be curious to see a GTS motor in a GTV setup. I have this currently with the MTE, cold blocks, thermal paste, and powder coat removed on inside rails. I think it has helped but hard to say exactly how much.

Would be curious to see a GTS motor in a GTV setup. I have this currently with the MTE, cold blocks, thermal paste, and powder coat removed on inside rails. I think it has helped but hard to say exactly how much.

Good afternoon. I watched your video, you can tell me in more detail or show the circuit how to connect the foot sensors and what kind of resistor is needed

Nice .. I think you need to try an older hypercore on a 30s VESC and GTS. We do not know how much high voltage is responsible for better thermals with the original Hypercore.

I would like to see someone throw a extra DCDC in a GT-S to power extra lights and fun stuff but also could power a small fan getting airflow from some vent holes in the plastic lid. Getting water and dust resistant vents that are big enough would be hard.

I want to see a FM vs VESC race where FM gets to bring out their best custom board and rider, tune it specially. Then the VESC team has Surfdado, Benjamin V, Mitch and Nico tuning a comparable power board specially for the rider and the course to compete.

Thanks for the tests! My GTS handles the thermals quite well and have never hit an over temp alert .Riding in the mountains with 90-100 ambient temps and being 200# my motor gets noticeably warmer than my controller or maybe it’s just by the time a get my phone out it has cooled down. My controller will be 160 and motor 180 after a long climb. I have done consistent trail riding were my motor temps are 160-180 through the ride. I don’t think the controller is a bottleneck. For my kinda riding i feel they’re fairly evenly matched.

Did you try this with Fred's GTV? If not you can use mine for the test if you want. WTF GTV with n52 MTE. I was getting really high temps but the cold blocks made a big difference.