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@curtrobertson6799 Сағат бұрын
@bikersedge I’m trying to decide between the Spur and a Ripley AF. I live in St. George and ride here 99% of the time. Help me decide
@bikersedge 37 минут бұрын
Both would be great on the more XC trails down there. I think the Ripley AF will be a little bit more forgiving when you’re in the bigger terrain down there.
@madmountainman5197 2 сағат бұрын
It's not just the sweet spot that's important, it's the seat angle too. As they get steeper, for every 1 degree you lose approximately 1cm of cockpit reach - the roominess between your seat and your handlebars. I'm looking at the new Nicolai Saturn 16 in XL and XXL, compared to my Santa Cruz Megatower in XXL. I'm 6'6' with even leg/torso length and, despite the Saturn in XL being almost identical to the Megatower in XXL, i'm thinking it'll be best to go XXL on the Saturn, as the steeper seat tube angle will push me closer to the bars. I also have an early Trail Pistol that has a steeper SA than the Megatower and I have the seat slammed as far back as it goes, run a 50mm stem and still feel cramped compared to the Megatower.
@MrBmsamuel07 7 сағат бұрын
More where to ride videos please!
@bikersedge 2 сағат бұрын
Can do.
@swx0932 14 сағат бұрын
Who else love the metric system?
@LoamerMTB 22 сағат бұрын
Yes thank god for externally routed brake lines 🙏 Please keep doing this.
@bikersedge 22 сағат бұрын
You and I might be in the vast minority here. But we’re right.
@smokingtires5 Күн бұрын
That first guy was wearing his sister’s shorts…weird.
@bikersedge Күн бұрын
They’re fast. Less drag.
@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v Күн бұрын
Have you looked at bar rise as a factor? It really does depend on the rider I think the key is what each thing does because even if someone is the same size they may want it different. It would be cool if you could rent some kit for the this purpose at a reasonable price. Then determine what sizes would work best for you on given bike. That way you would have a really good idea what to buy to optimize the setup for your wants and needs. There would still be some variables that would effect it such as weight and actual fit on the components you buy in the end but, it maybe close enough to make choice that's best for you.
@brighamyates Күн бұрын
Keep it up!
@bikersedge Күн бұрын
That's the plan!
@DR10002 Күн бұрын
Side note. I run Conti TKC 80 tires on my dual sport motorcycle and they are epic on road/off road/highway/deep water/loose rock/granite. Continental knows tires.
@William.N Күн бұрын
Why weren't there any charts? Seriously though, looks like a wonderful place!
@bikersedge Күн бұрын
I should have busted out the sharpie and yellow paper to draw some janky maps or something.
@RobertoRodriguez-nj7ym Күн бұрын
Right on guys, keep doing what you’re doing. 👍
@bikersedge Күн бұрын
🤘🤘
@joshlewis459 2 күн бұрын
Let's hope they stay ebike (class1)friendly and don't turn into summit county for single track use.
@bikersedge 2 күн бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@Joshwilde175 2 күн бұрын
So great!!
@bikersedge 2 күн бұрын
👍👍
@jonlowe5391 2 күн бұрын
Love it, thanks for the community support Biker’s Edge!
@bikersedge 2 күн бұрын
We’re about more than just selling bikes! And selfishly we like having more good trails.
@xav_1029 2 күн бұрын
More trail center reviews please! Throw in a few restaurants and family activities as well to help us plan trips lol.
@bikersedge 2 күн бұрын
Great idea. I can try to work more of that in.
@JoelZieve 2 күн бұрын
Eden Valley Trails does amazing work. Thanks BE for all you do to support them!
@bikersedge 2 күн бұрын
Yes they do. Loved the trails up there.
@SuperCaryG 2 күн бұрын
That’s awesome Connor. Love to see bike shops and local trail associations linking up and helping create that MTB community support system.
@bikersedge 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! We always to try to contribute where we can.
@bullit4x 2 күн бұрын
Sooooooo. An Orbea commercial with a sprinkling of info about the area. 🤦🏼♂️
@randomdude6136 2 күн бұрын
Sooooo. A bike shop that's trying to sell bikes. 🙊
@bikersedge 2 күн бұрын
Of course we want to sell bikes but we are clearly doing more than just that.
@awright16789 20 сағат бұрын
Watch the video. it's about supporting local trail building. The bike has a small part.
@bikersedge 20 сағат бұрын
@@awright16789 I think some folks just like complaining on the internet. It’s a little funny that we get called out after donating $50k to local trails. 😂
@Sharpened_Spoon 5 күн бұрын
Great review. Also.. damn it.. I think this is the bike to replace my Process 111.
@Eric.V. 5 күн бұрын
Wow, that squirrels nest of cables hanging off the handlebars 😳
@bikersedge 5 күн бұрын
Yeah. Can’t say I’m a fan of that. Non wireless drivetrain XC bikes tend to have a lot of cables with the lockouts.
@hyruleworrier3021 5 күн бұрын
Literally just bought this bike yesterday for 3999.
@bikersedge 5 күн бұрын
Enjoy!
@michaelwalas5948 6 күн бұрын
Awesome review. So based on that I went and bought the MX version. I’m always into sportier more aggressive dirt bikes and to me it’s all about turning , breaking and acceleration. They are the words I kept hearing for the MX so I bought it ! I absolutely love it ! Thanks guys 👍🏼👍🏼 It’s all about your style and type of tracks. And I prefer tight switchbacks and poppy tracks. Definitely the more technical the better. I’m not into the big jumps.
@bikersedge 6 күн бұрын
Glad you love it!
@soul_turns 6 күн бұрын
Has anyone ridden a Spur with the original RS SID shock and compared with the Fox DPS? I have a SID shock and Fox 34 130mm. I don't want to give up any climbing efficiency, but I would take a little improvement in shock absorption. Seems like the SID is easily overwhelmed in bigger terrain.
@bikersedge 6 күн бұрын
I’ve ridden it with both. I don’t think there’s all that much difference between them either in climbing or descending performance. I don’t think you’re going to get noticeably better bump compliance or worse pedal efficiency from the DPS. If you went to a significantly larger volume shock you might start to notice a bit. But for the most part, frame kinematics dictate the lions share of the suspension feel.
@S1ckb0t 6 күн бұрын
Great video! Was all this tubeless or with tubes?
@bikersedge 6 күн бұрын
All tubeless.
@InspiredChair 6 күн бұрын
What wristband do you use on your Apple Watch? Looked comfy
@bikersedge 6 күн бұрын
Not sure to be honest. Something cheap from Amazon.
@Evanturar 6 күн бұрын
Outstanding work. I'm going through the same testing. Although I'm on a much longer stem 90mm on my Supercaliber that comes stock with 80mm. This is just an excellent piece. Thank you.
@bikersedge 6 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@boli2016 7 күн бұрын
Great video! I think maybe do the same thing, but individually test the effect of the components. Like you said you were thinking that the tires had the greatest effect. It would be great to see what difference it would be to just change the tires vs the suspension etc as well. This way you can also feel exactly the difference of the rear shock!
@bikersedge 7 күн бұрын
That’s a great idea.
@SkiRidesMTB 7 күн бұрын
Now THAT is a gorgeous looking emtb
@bikersedge 7 күн бұрын
Does not look bad at all.
@ziamia8849 8 күн бұрын
This vs Bronson?
@bikersedge 7 күн бұрын
Not sure. Haven’t ridden a Bronson yet.
@stephenkrause6059 8 күн бұрын
Interesting test. I have done something similar recently and it appears that it really does not matter what is on the rear of the tire for uphill climbing (enduro or XC). It is only the front tire that affects the time.
@bikersedge 8 күн бұрын
That's very interesting. I'd imagine the rear has a bigger impact as its the tire driving the bike.
@stephenkrause6059 7 күн бұрын
@@bikersedge I am going to do some more tests. The tires I am using on the rear are an Ardent and an Assegai MaxGrip, so big difference. Same two tires on the front also Ardent and Assegai MaxGrip.
@Sck519 8 күн бұрын
I was able to demo one this weekend and I couldn't agree more with what you said. The GRIP is insane. I cleared several tech climbs that I often spin out or get bucked on, but it for sure didn't feel efficient. It wasn't bad, but the grip factor outweighed any issues with it not feeling quick on the climbs. It was also one of the quietest bikes I've ridden. I really loved it. If I was going to the bike park more than 3 times a year I would buy one. It did feel "fun" still but a little heavier than I would like. Unfortunately, I pedal too much for this version to make sense.
@user-rj9ui3sz8u 8 күн бұрын
I had the Spur and wanted something more trail and plush for my rides on medium chunky trails by my house, so I got this bike because bigger fork and slacker head tube. It came with the Fox Live Valve and had a rough time on it. Now I got rid of Live Valve and put Fox Factory new grip X and float on it and the front end still feels harsh (a little better) but Im still frustrated I just want a comfortable plush bike. Should I get a Ripmo or something? What bikes feel plush and damp?
@bikersedge 8 күн бұрын
You’re not really going to find a “plush” bike in the 120mm category. The thing that makes them quick and zippy uphill is the same thing that keeps them from feeling plush and comfy on the DH. It’s a matter of priorities. If plush is your number one priority then get a big bike with a lot of travel and an active suspension platform.
@user-rj9ui3sz8u 8 күн бұрын
@@bikersedge Thanks! what bikes have you ridden that feel plush and comfortable?
@bikersedge 8 күн бұрын
@@user-rj9ui3sz8u altitude, Megatower, sb160, sentinel. Keep in mind those will pay a huge penalty on the climbs and will handle very differently. They’re big bikes designed for rough and fast descents.
@user-rj9ui3sz8u 7 күн бұрын
@@bikersedge Yeah those are big bikes but I'm addicted to damp plush feeling on the trail. Will Exo+ casing tires smooth out the trail more?
@bikersedge 7 күн бұрын
@@user-rj9ui3sz8u not a ton. Technically you can run a bit less pressure in those but not enough to make a little bike feel “plush”
@tmae-9284 9 күн бұрын
How would you compare it to the relay?
@Wiroe 9 күн бұрын
Riding is all about having fun! Stop the e-bike hate, comment sections on e-bike videos are just so awful
@bikersedge 9 күн бұрын
I second this. Have fun on a bike how you choose and let other folks have fun how they choose. It’s really not that difficult.
@chef88100 9 күн бұрын
also..can you get your hands on a salsa horsethief to do a review.
@bikersedge 9 күн бұрын
That one will be very unlikely.
@chef88100 9 күн бұрын
hi all. giant trance pro 29 without the liv valve or trek top fuel
@bikersedge 9 күн бұрын
Not sure. We don’t carry Trek so I haven’t ridden the top fuel. Can’t say.
@joehoeper4648 9 күн бұрын
Great review - I really enjoy your impressions of bikes
@bikersedge 9 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@jdmbeaner182 10 күн бұрын
So did y'all just forget about the other channel lol
@bikersedge 9 күн бұрын
Basically. Seemed silly to separate them. We’ve moved everything back here now.
@jdmbeaner182 9 күн бұрын
@@bikersedge yea It seems like the community as a whole has sorta just accepted ebikes now.
@bikersedge 9 күн бұрын
@@jdmbeaner182 you’d be surprised. We get a lot of hate on ebike videos over here.
@jdmbeaner182 9 күн бұрын
@@bikersedge yea even on pink bike there's always negativity but it's nowhere near as bad as it was in 2020.
@bikersedge 9 күн бұрын
@@jdmbeaner182 very true. Moving in the right direction.
@romand123 10 күн бұрын
The Ikki seems pretty comparable to the Specialized Kenevo SL. Might be a bit quieter than the SL but the weight, power and travel seem comparable.
@Canyon_Shawn 10 күн бұрын
Having the bars a little high isn’t going to take away front control. Proper shock and fork sag will fix that. Try it, you’ll eventually really like it.
@bikersedge 10 күн бұрын
It can lead to less weight on the front wheel which in turn leads to less control and under steer. I run my bars higher than just about everyone I know. Dak might have me beat but not by much. Ha.
@Nile49 10 күн бұрын
I wonder if the unusually short stem could be a factor. I’ve tried and could not make them work for me.
@bikersedge 10 күн бұрын
@@Nile49 depending on the bike I’ll run between 35-50. This was within the normal range. The stack height is really high. I think that’s a big part of it.
@Nile49 10 күн бұрын
@@bikersedge did you swap it? Spec sheet says 30mm. Thanks
@erichbachman7363 11 күн бұрын
ALways a good day when Bikers Edge put out a new review! This guy is so chill and the format is excellent, def one of my fav mtb-reviwers!
@bikersedge 10 күн бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.
@Cartsp70 11 күн бұрын
Would you choose this or the new Orbea Rise ??????
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
Not sure. I haven’t ridden the rise yet.
@Manu_Air228 10 күн бұрын
very different bikes, I own the Rise but going to switch for the Dune soon
11 күн бұрын
This, with the full powered motor and a 750wh battery
@bikersedge 8 күн бұрын
It would change the bike so much though. Wouldn’t have nearly the same ride quality.
7 күн бұрын
@@bikersedge Maybe, but considering the Wild with the full powered Bosch and the 750 battery, the Mondraker would be still more playful as a mullet.
@roellecorregidor1201 11 күн бұрын
What camera setup are you using now? Good to see something different.
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
I use the Hero 12 for the POV and a Sony a7sIII for the other stuff.
@shaymtbrider7244 11 күн бұрын
Over price shit . Better buy dirt bike
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
I would also really like one of those. The more bikes the merrier.
@gbrox17 11 күн бұрын
The trails on your channel look so nice.
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
We’ve got some goods here in Utah.
@Pppppgtillo 11 күн бұрын
Hi I’m riding this ebike too! Just to compare(i’m 210pounds rider) What are your suspension settings? Thks a lot👍🏻
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
To be honest I set up so many bikes in any given week I can remember what I’ve done for setup. I should be better at writing that stuff down.
@ZippidyMTB 11 күн бұрын
This would be a great comparison against the Kenevo, SL. Not necessarily motor power, but ride and descending capability.
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
We’ve got a lightweight EMTB showdown in the works. We don’t carry specialized though so won’t be able to include the Kenevo.
@Danny2009ie 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am hoping to change from a 24kg full power Trail eMTB to either the Dune RR (the spec on this video), or the Cannondale Moterra SL1, in the next few months. My preferential riding terrain is more technical Enduro/downhill. Both bikes are capable, so difficult decision. Moterra is full power, and similar weight. But agility is the No 1 driving factor for me.
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@K1ngJame5-mtb 12 күн бұрын
Awesome review. Can you confirm if the Bosch SX motor has the same rattle/clunk as the Bosch cx?
@bikersedge 11 күн бұрын
Hey, thanks. I didn't notice it much at all on this one. Some bikes accentuate the sound more than others though.
@Nile49 11 күн бұрын
As mentioned it does seem to be bike/individual motor related but others have said its essentially the same as the CX downhill noise wise.
@K1ngJame5-mtb 11 күн бұрын
@@Nile49 I really want the dune but the motor clunk/rattle is a real problem for for
@Nile49 11 күн бұрын
@@K1ngJame5-mtb yea a real shame to see new motors that still have this behavior
@Manu_Air228 10 күн бұрын
it does not have any rattle, if anyone claims that, it is false. I had the bike for a full day and heard nothing on the downhill. Uphill it is not the most silent (TQ), but more silent then the EP8(RS)