Murray Bookchin on the New Left (3/3)
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@nachnahmevornahme9574
@nachnahmevornahme9574 7 ай бұрын
10 Years after thes speech the peoples of Nort- and east-syria are stil building democratic confederalism and resist brutal attacks of the turkish state. The kurdish movement is spreading bookchins and öcalans ideas all arount the globe. In This moment the first steps to a democratic world confederalism are made. ✌
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 8 ай бұрын
this is so cool... chilling with students talking about how nasty the elite are and were. Just like Greece in 300BCE... Just kidding. Whatever he wanted, America turned out the other way around. Bookchin like any good anarchist was a rockstar.
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 9 ай бұрын
at 06:06 he says "so ya like that answere.. "
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 9 ай бұрын
Epic guy. That is why people in America ignored him, worse drove him out of ecology. The same ecology which now serves economics and energy. Murray Bookchin Rocks!! Even Today
@s1g1tal
@s1g1tal 10 ай бұрын
1:29:59
@jayburton1387
@jayburton1387 Жыл бұрын
This really speaks a lot on things that went on to happen even more. Very important points.
@jayburton1387
@jayburton1387 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Wonderful talk!
@jayburton1387
@jayburton1387 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. What a brilliant man. I would love to meet and speak with people who value these ideas...how do we find each other???
@micheleventuroni2080
@micheleventuroni2080 Жыл бұрын
Comrade Bookchin ❤
@micheleventuroni2080
@micheleventuroni2080 Жыл бұрын
Eternal gloria to comrade Bookchin ✊
@mausegetlit363
@mausegetlit363 Жыл бұрын
Murray Bookchin was the greatest thinker of the 20th century
@PM-ke9ry
@PM-ke9ry Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for uploading these videos.
@muzwot9603
@muzwot9603 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer is bordering on being plain a-hole
@TheNoblot
@TheNoblot Жыл бұрын
The Tower Of Babel/ President Putin Russia: The impossibility of communication is a language problem, The West as is called does not understand you, they are deft to your words and perceive something that is not what you say. A similar situation as the tower of Babel & the confusion of the languages. One example is Jesus on the cross, the Jews his people did not understood him at all, and from the merchants market to his crucifixion, the result was the Collapse of Israel & the end of the Roman Empire. Jesus did ask for his father to come to the rescue. Nothing happen at that particular moment. However 70 years later Israel disappeared & it is still nowhere, today is a sort of holly disorder with the logos of terrorism & antisemitism on a daily basis . The same took place to the Roman Empire it became what is called the Christian Empire. How this took place? For the Jewish you can say was the refusal of the Leaders of Israel to accept Jesus to understand his language & the Rabbis refuse to change their own privileged economical position that the Roman Empire gave them. That refusal was a lack of communication if you like. Today you are facing the same dilemma with Zalesnki the New Jewish Messiah & Kiev the Jerusalem in construction; On the other side you got The NATO EU WASHINGTON realm who are unable to understand the language of RUSSIA & CHINA. On what Power is concern it is not America the most powerful nation in history, it is a system, unfortunately that question will remain unanswered. You got Brennus & the sword as you have Jesus & the market, as you have Romulus & Remus. That is as much history will tell. In 2022 the labyrinth is the Nuclear weapons roach motel “you get in but you can not get out” Cells and particles can communicate however if you do not understand their language it is no different than the tower of babel & the confusion of the languages .🤔
@redmotherfive
@redmotherfive 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, to have lived in the days before, “next slide please.”
@redmotherfive
@redmotherfive 2 жыл бұрын
Love Bookchin but have a critique: did he realized how small it made him seem to rag on Fuller so much? (He did so in his writings as well as here.) He was obviously envious of Fuller's 'success' and notoriety. You'd think a man with such great ideas would have had more class and tact.
@mausegetlit363
@mausegetlit363 9 ай бұрын
Don't know but Murray bookchin in terms of popularity and real world impact is way more accomplished than a "fuller" in the year 2023. That alone should tell you if he was wrong in his remarks or not
@NineteenthandLamont
@NineteenthandLamont 2 жыл бұрын
I love bookchin, and his utopian approach certainly offers a guiding light, but his dismissiveness towards Marx in this dialogue is so naive. How does he assume to dissemble capitalist hegemony and develop into anarcho-utopia?
@saturngenesis1306
@saturngenesis1306 Жыл бұрын
He 'assumes to' do so by serving as its grave-digger; its self-inflicted wounds await our salt. We've already begun to see the weakness of hierarchies, their brittle rigidities cracked & crumbled by networks of horizontal arrangements. Concentrated decision-making power simply doesn't work; it never did, of course, but because of new technologies & the now indomitable percolations of information, the State's thin façade of legitimacy has chipped & tarnished. Any time you flout its impediments to commercial interchange & voluntary synergy, or simply avoid its reach, you're coursing through its veins & thwarting its power.
@saturngenesis1306
@saturngenesis1306 Жыл бұрын
Frankly, Marx just invites the most authoritarian adulation & preaches the most inane banalities. His writing is studded with unwarranted assumptions about the role of technical imperatives in economic centralization. He had an unwitting belief in the class-neutral, positive-sum virtues of 'economies of scale,' of ongoing cartelization as the 'progressive' penultimate step to Socialism, all 'for the good.' He lionized whatever sounded like 'The New Industrial State' & contemptuously dismissed calls for distributive ownership & decentralism as romantic throwbacks to a 19th century idyll.
@dangerousideas5356
@dangerousideas5356 2 жыл бұрын
i think the beginning point is a sort of vague series of references to both Aldo Leopold ("thinking like a mountain") and a then-recent book called Thinking Like a Mountain: Towards a Council of All Beings. a general attempt at a debunk of a deep ecology line.
@revoltensolution
@revoltensolution 2 жыл бұрын
If someone adds SUB, it's possible to prepare subtitles for other languages.
@scharb
@scharb 2 жыл бұрын
37:30 shots fired, Bernie destroyed
@scharb
@scharb 2 жыл бұрын
“Maybe I’m being idiotic or ethical today”
@scharb
@scharb 2 жыл бұрын
He answers challenging questions directly and forthrightly. He presents alternative courses of action to accompany his well-reasoned criticisms. He is the real most interesting man in the world.
@huffrya0
@huffrya0 2 жыл бұрын
Every time he’s about to say some fire shit the video goes silent for five seconds
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
But they are free to make decisions! How else can any change come about ? Without great sacrifice~which at this point~is not only required but necessary.
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
The main treason I think that "worker's co~ops" remain capitalistic is because the term itself represents a capital commodity but in a reverse dichtomy: "liabilities" turn into "assets".
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
The criminalization of the victim who attempts to defend his/her self~quintessentially "american " !!!!!!
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
The auto workers migration into the suburbs and living the middle class life guaranteed M'carythism~and not the other way around. MURRAY.
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
Just short of 2% of views to "likes" reminds me of the extremely low percentage of voters who came out for Nader in both his presidential nomination bids~and not despite of the clarity of his platforms but BECAUSE of them! We see that things have only got much worse with the election~and legacy~of Trump as "president ". And we can now look forward to the deliberate, willful, and out in the open subversion of even the right to vote! americans~Hah!!!!
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
Same with the "Occupy" movement: factional splitting off with no coordination nor any comprehensive vision. Fertile soil for co~optation by the capitalist system. Same today
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
I see two critical questions that spills into many of Bookchin's other KZfaq video presentations~for example "communitarianism". 1. WHY did Walther Reuther settle for enhanced benefits~tied to enhanced labor productivity ("class collaboration") instead of pursuing "class warfare" that might have resulted in very different outcomes? 2. WHY did the auto workers (labor) also settle for Reuther's settlement with management?
@robertburatt
@robertburatt 2 жыл бұрын
I see two critical questions that spills into many of Bookchin's KZfaq video presentations, such as on "communitarianism". 1. WHY did Walther Reuther settle for enhanced benefits~tied to enhanced labor productivity ("class collaboration")? 2. WHY did the auto workers (labor) also settle for Reuther's settlement with management?
@PvtPooter
@PvtPooter 2 жыл бұрын
why is it in black and white if its 1986?
@endTHEhegemony_Today
@endTHEhegemony_Today 2 жыл бұрын
Its so cute watching them mess with the slide projector at around 1:02:00 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 He is both so patient and impatient at the same time 😆
@Peace2051
@Peace2051 9 ай бұрын
And isn't it amazing that he knew so much, saw so clearly even back in the "slide projector era" almost a third of a century ago. What opportunities have been lost!
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 2 жыл бұрын
So he wants a bunch of tribes... Like Afghanistan I guess... This assumption would assume everyone agrees with you totally (or by force) and won't offer another way by conversation or by force. It also requires living off a more well off society you parasite from to buy your goods or give you the wealth of their labor.
@MrOhfuckyougod
@MrOhfuckyougod 2 жыл бұрын
There are dozens of us!
@delaney6066
@delaney6066 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these uploads. I just discovered Murray Bookchin and the possibilities he shined light on. How crazy is it that his ideas were/are seen as radical? People are waking up though. There is still hope. .
@delaney6066
@delaney6066 2 жыл бұрын
12:35
@dangerousideas5356
@dangerousideas5356 3 жыл бұрын
i thought this said "immortality" ;( no mr.bookchin nooo ;(
@dangerousideas5356
@dangerousideas5356 3 жыл бұрын
j/
@Kiyarose3999
@Kiyarose3999 3 жыл бұрын
The Land is Ours! ✊🏽🌎
@Kiyarose3999
@Kiyarose3999 3 жыл бұрын
Our Land, against Cities, that destroy our connection to land, and the Land itself!
@TheLeksilijum
@TheLeksilijum 3 жыл бұрын
This is so relevant today... We're still failing so hard, I feel almost defeated.
@RichardFalkner
@RichardFalkner 3 жыл бұрын
Slowly writing through this. Thanks again for the upload.
@RichardFalkner
@RichardFalkner 3 жыл бұрын
This is great but I wish Mr Bookchin would shut up and listen to his questions a little more before interrupting with an answer.
@mausegetlit363
@mausegetlit363 9 ай бұрын
Bye
@RichardFalkner
@RichardFalkner 9 ай бұрын
@@mausegetlit363 don't get me wrong, I love his ideas and an engaging with them all the time. But on this one video he is very flat and broad in his rejections in a way that seems closed-minded
@MrOhfuckyougod
@MrOhfuckyougod 3 жыл бұрын
excellent companion to the book, thanks!
@user-fr9nz9se1f
@user-fr9nz9se1f 3 жыл бұрын
why are there blank screen gaps in the video, what is deleted
@galuf84
@galuf84 3 жыл бұрын
modern lacunas
@FreiheitXXI
@FreiheitXXI Жыл бұрын
The tape was damaged
@user-fr9nz9se1f
@user-fr9nz9se1f Жыл бұрын
@@FreiheitXXI ah, that's too bad. Thanks for letting me know.
@hella_cool1312
@hella_cool1312 3 жыл бұрын
Part 3: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9qnhJZ7rJ2mcYU.html
@hella_cool1312
@hella_cool1312 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I see how someone could think of Murray as just a grumpy old man if they only see this video
@hareeshk99
@hareeshk99 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, do you mind if I use a part of this speech in a song?
@RichardFalkner
@RichardFalkner 3 жыл бұрын
Posting these videos is such a great gift. Did you film them, or were you involved in the institute of social ecology?
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 3 жыл бұрын
Whoops he made a mistake. At one point he talks about how domination of human groups by other human groups as a problem, and then he goes on to say that we didn't have the issues we have now back when women regarded themselves as equal to men. This is flipping the blame onto women. Name the problem. The problem is male domination, that is something men chose to do. It is not because women do not regard ourselves highly enough. A very popular thing to do now is to try and educate the victim. Well, this has nothing to do with the choices of the victim, oppression is completed by perpetrators, so how is educating the people they perpetrate against going to change anything? Again, this is something used to flip the blame on to the victim. One example I hear of this is when particularly socialists try to give ideas to solve homelessness. They talked about educating the homeless, which always makes me laugh heartily, as the homeless could teach them more than they could ever dream. Same with women and Men.
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 3 жыл бұрын
@Knobcore WRONG. the first axis of all oppression is SEX. it creates a 50/50 division to begin with, and thereby is effective. so you don't know shit, but at least your username checks out. you'd have to argue every sociologist and anthropologist worth his salt on this topic anyway. good luck. lol.
@Jabberwocklee
@Jabberwocklee 3 жыл бұрын
Mic drop 👏👏👏
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969
@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 3 жыл бұрын
@Knobcore fuck clinton. and keep pretending. my statement stands. we're moving on and leaving you little male supremacist kids behind. :)