10 Years after thes speech the peoples of Nort- and east-syria are stil building democratic confederalism and resist brutal attacks of the turkish state. The kurdish movement is spreading bookchins and öcalans ideas all arount the globe. In This moment the first steps to a democratic world confederalism are made. ✌
@AudioPervert18 ай бұрын
this is so cool... chilling with students talking about how nasty the elite are and were. Just like Greece in 300BCE... Just kidding. Whatever he wanted, America turned out the other way around. Bookchin like any good anarchist was a rockstar.
@AudioPervert19 ай бұрын
at 06:06 he says "so ya like that answere.. "
@AudioPervert19 ай бұрын
Epic guy. That is why people in America ignored him, worse drove him out of ecology. The same ecology which now serves economics and energy. Murray Bookchin Rocks!! Even Today
@s1g1tal10 ай бұрын
1:29:59
@jayburton1387 Жыл бұрын
This really speaks a lot on things that went on to happen even more. Very important points.
@jayburton1387 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Wonderful talk!
@jayburton1387 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. What a brilliant man. I would love to meet and speak with people who value these ideas...how do we find each other???
@micheleventuroni2080 Жыл бұрын
Comrade Bookchin ❤
@micheleventuroni2080 Жыл бұрын
Eternal gloria to comrade Bookchin ✊
@mausegetlit363 Жыл бұрын
Murray Bookchin was the greatest thinker of the 20th century
@PM-ke9ry Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for uploading these videos.
@muzwot9603 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer is bordering on being plain a-hole
@TheNoblot Жыл бұрын
The Tower Of Babel/ President Putin Russia: The impossibility of communication is a language problem, The West as is called does not understand you, they are deft to your words and perceive something that is not what you say. A similar situation as the tower of Babel & the confusion of the languages. One example is Jesus on the cross, the Jews his people did not understood him at all, and from the merchants market to his crucifixion, the result was the Collapse of Israel & the end of the Roman Empire. Jesus did ask for his father to come to the rescue. Nothing happen at that particular moment. However 70 years later Israel disappeared & it is still nowhere, today is a sort of holly disorder with the logos of terrorism & antisemitism on a daily basis . The same took place to the Roman Empire it became what is called the Christian Empire. How this took place? For the Jewish you can say was the refusal of the Leaders of Israel to accept Jesus to understand his language & the Rabbis refuse to change their own privileged economical position that the Roman Empire gave them. That refusal was a lack of communication if you like. Today you are facing the same dilemma with Zalesnki the New Jewish Messiah & Kiev the Jerusalem in construction; On the other side you got The NATO EU WASHINGTON realm who are unable to understand the language of RUSSIA & CHINA. On what Power is concern it is not America the most powerful nation in history, it is a system, unfortunately that question will remain unanswered. You got Brennus & the sword as you have Jesus & the market, as you have Romulus & Remus. That is as much history will tell. In 2022 the labyrinth is the Nuclear weapons roach motel “you get in but you can not get out” Cells and particles can communicate however if you do not understand their language it is no different than the tower of babel & the confusion of the languages .🤔
@redmotherfive2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, to have lived in the days before, “next slide please.”
@redmotherfive2 жыл бұрын
Love Bookchin but have a critique: did he realized how small it made him seem to rag on Fuller so much? (He did so in his writings as well as here.) He was obviously envious of Fuller's 'success' and notoriety. You'd think a man with such great ideas would have had more class and tact.
@mausegetlit3639 ай бұрын
Don't know but Murray bookchin in terms of popularity and real world impact is way more accomplished than a "fuller" in the year 2023. That alone should tell you if he was wrong in his remarks or not
@NineteenthandLamont2 жыл бұрын
I love bookchin, and his utopian approach certainly offers a guiding light, but his dismissiveness towards Marx in this dialogue is so naive. How does he assume to dissemble capitalist hegemony and develop into anarcho-utopia?
@saturngenesis1306 Жыл бұрын
He 'assumes to' do so by serving as its grave-digger; its self-inflicted wounds await our salt. We've already begun to see the weakness of hierarchies, their brittle rigidities cracked & crumbled by networks of horizontal arrangements. Concentrated decision-making power simply doesn't work; it never did, of course, but because of new technologies & the now indomitable percolations of information, the State's thin façade of legitimacy has chipped & tarnished. Any time you flout its impediments to commercial interchange & voluntary synergy, or simply avoid its reach, you're coursing through its veins & thwarting its power.
@saturngenesis1306 Жыл бұрын
Frankly, Marx just invites the most authoritarian adulation & preaches the most inane banalities. His writing is studded with unwarranted assumptions about the role of technical imperatives in economic centralization. He had an unwitting belief in the class-neutral, positive-sum virtues of 'economies of scale,' of ongoing cartelization as the 'progressive' penultimate step to Socialism, all 'for the good.' He lionized whatever sounded like 'The New Industrial State' & contemptuously dismissed calls for distributive ownership & decentralism as romantic throwbacks to a 19th century idyll.
@dangerousideas53562 жыл бұрын
i think the beginning point is a sort of vague series of references to both Aldo Leopold ("thinking like a mountain") and a then-recent book called Thinking Like a Mountain: Towards a Council of All Beings. a general attempt at a debunk of a deep ecology line.
@revoltensolution2 жыл бұрын
If someone adds SUB, it's possible to prepare subtitles for other languages.
@scharb2 жыл бұрын
37:30 shots fired, Bernie destroyed
@scharb2 жыл бұрын
“Maybe I’m being idiotic or ethical today”
@scharb2 жыл бұрын
He answers challenging questions directly and forthrightly. He presents alternative courses of action to accompany his well-reasoned criticisms. He is the real most interesting man in the world.
@huffrya02 жыл бұрын
Every time he’s about to say some fire shit the video goes silent for five seconds
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
But they are free to make decisions! How else can any change come about ? Without great sacrifice~which at this point~is not only required but necessary.
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
The main treason I think that "worker's co~ops" remain capitalistic is because the term itself represents a capital commodity but in a reverse dichtomy: "liabilities" turn into "assets".
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
The criminalization of the victim who attempts to defend his/her self~quintessentially "american " !!!!!!
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
The auto workers migration into the suburbs and living the middle class life guaranteed M'carythism~and not the other way around. MURRAY.
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
Just short of 2% of views to "likes" reminds me of the extremely low percentage of voters who came out for Nader in both his presidential nomination bids~and not despite of the clarity of his platforms but BECAUSE of them! We see that things have only got much worse with the election~and legacy~of Trump as "president ". And we can now look forward to the deliberate, willful, and out in the open subversion of even the right to vote! americans~Hah!!!!
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
Same with the "Occupy" movement: factional splitting off with no coordination nor any comprehensive vision. Fertile soil for co~optation by the capitalist system. Same today
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
I see two critical questions that spills into many of Bookchin's other KZfaq video presentations~for example "communitarianism". 1. WHY did Walther Reuther settle for enhanced benefits~tied to enhanced labor productivity ("class collaboration") instead of pursuing "class warfare" that might have resulted in very different outcomes? 2. WHY did the auto workers (labor) also settle for Reuther's settlement with management?
@robertburatt2 жыл бұрын
I see two critical questions that spills into many of Bookchin's KZfaq video presentations, such as on "communitarianism". 1. WHY did Walther Reuther settle for enhanced benefits~tied to enhanced labor productivity ("class collaboration")? 2. WHY did the auto workers (labor) also settle for Reuther's settlement with management?
@PvtPooter2 жыл бұрын
why is it in black and white if its 1986?
@endTHEhegemony_Today2 жыл бұрын
Its so cute watching them mess with the slide projector at around 1:02:00 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 He is both so patient and impatient at the same time 😆
@Peace20519 ай бұрын
And isn't it amazing that he knew so much, saw so clearly even back in the "slide projector era" almost a third of a century ago. What opportunities have been lost!
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe87832 жыл бұрын
So he wants a bunch of tribes... Like Afghanistan I guess... This assumption would assume everyone agrees with you totally (or by force) and won't offer another way by conversation or by force. It also requires living off a more well off society you parasite from to buy your goods or give you the wealth of their labor.
@MrOhfuckyougod2 жыл бұрын
There are dozens of us!
@delaney60662 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these uploads. I just discovered Murray Bookchin and the possibilities he shined light on. How crazy is it that his ideas were/are seen as radical? People are waking up though. There is still hope. .
@delaney60662 жыл бұрын
12:35
@dangerousideas53563 жыл бұрын
i thought this said "immortality" ;( no mr.bookchin nooo ;(
@dangerousideas53563 жыл бұрын
j/
@Kiyarose39993 жыл бұрын
The Land is Ours! ✊🏽🌎
@Kiyarose39993 жыл бұрын
Our Land, against Cities, that destroy our connection to land, and the Land itself!
@TheLeksilijum3 жыл бұрын
This is so relevant today... We're still failing so hard, I feel almost defeated.
@RichardFalkner3 жыл бұрын
Slowly writing through this. Thanks again for the upload.
@RichardFalkner3 жыл бұрын
This is great but I wish Mr Bookchin would shut up and listen to his questions a little more before interrupting with an answer.
@mausegetlit3639 ай бұрын
Bye
@RichardFalkner9 ай бұрын
@@mausegetlit363 don't get me wrong, I love his ideas and an engaging with them all the time. But on this one video he is very flat and broad in his rejections in a way that seems closed-minded
@MrOhfuckyougod3 жыл бұрын
excellent companion to the book, thanks!
@user-fr9nz9se1f3 жыл бұрын
why are there blank screen gaps in the video, what is deleted
@galuf843 жыл бұрын
modern lacunas
@FreiheitXXI Жыл бұрын
The tape was damaged
@user-fr9nz9se1f Жыл бұрын
@@FreiheitXXI ah, that's too bad. Thanks for letting me know.
@hella_cool13123 жыл бұрын
Part 3: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9qnhJZ7rJ2mcYU.html
@hella_cool13123 жыл бұрын
Haha I see how someone could think of Murray as just a grumpy old man if they only see this video
@hareeshk993 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, do you mind if I use a part of this speech in a song?
@RichardFalkner3 жыл бұрын
Posting these videos is such a great gift. Did you film them, or were you involved in the institute of social ecology?
@legalfictionnaturalfact39693 жыл бұрын
Whoops he made a mistake. At one point he talks about how domination of human groups by other human groups as a problem, and then he goes on to say that we didn't have the issues we have now back when women regarded themselves as equal to men. This is flipping the blame onto women. Name the problem. The problem is male domination, that is something men chose to do. It is not because women do not regard ourselves highly enough. A very popular thing to do now is to try and educate the victim. Well, this has nothing to do with the choices of the victim, oppression is completed by perpetrators, so how is educating the people they perpetrate against going to change anything? Again, this is something used to flip the blame on to the victim. One example I hear of this is when particularly socialists try to give ideas to solve homelessness. They talked about educating the homeless, which always makes me laugh heartily, as the homeless could teach them more than they could ever dream. Same with women and Men.
@legalfictionnaturalfact39693 жыл бұрын
@Knobcore WRONG. the first axis of all oppression is SEX. it creates a 50/50 division to begin with, and thereby is effective. so you don't know shit, but at least your username checks out. you'd have to argue every sociologist and anthropologist worth his salt on this topic anyway. good luck. lol.
@Jabberwocklee3 жыл бұрын
Mic drop 👏👏👏
@legalfictionnaturalfact39693 жыл бұрын
@Knobcore fuck clinton. and keep pretending. my statement stands. we're moving on and leaving you little male supremacist kids behind. :)