It’s the disease

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first of all check that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." William Gibson ( b.1948 )

why aren't we all schizophrenic then? there is much more compelling evidence from studies and theories on genetics, neurochemistry, brain structure, cognitive and psychological explanations. Don't just believe everything you see

It is more than that. Then everyone would have schizophrenia.

Extreme sleep deprivation can lead to psychosis and hearing odd sounds. Psychosis is not automatically schizophrenia. I'm so sorry that your friend had to go through this. She might just have some medical or neurological issue that affected her sleep. If she'd been on Benzodiazepines, she might have been suffering from the withdrawal effects that could last years. Many people get misdiagnosed with schizophrenia because they don't get a proper medical evaluation. Have you seen the movie 'Brain on Fire'? It's based on the true story of a writer who would have been diagnosed as psychotic or schizophrenic when what she really had was encephalitis.

@@czlucar she’s been in and out of care for 3 years. Monitored by psychiatrists and psychologists continually for 3 years at home and also under 24/7 monitoring in hospital by experts in the field for a total of over 6 months, (one being the highest ranking psychiatrist in our state) they did not jump to a conclusion, we have one of the best heath are systems in the world, and she has received an extraordinary amount of specialist assessment and care, they took their time and were extraordinarily thorough. Why would you assume that these experts would have misdiagnosed her? Are you some global expert with some knowledge that they don’t know? Because if you have some secret knowledge that these people don’t have after their decades of study at the best universities in the world and their decades of experience, I’m sure they’d love for you to educate them.

@@moonsharn I'm sorry but KZfaq won't allow links to articles. I can only post an excerpt. Long term antipsychotic treatment is being reconsidered even by some prominent psychiatrists and researchers. Even long term use of benzodiazepines is being reconsidered because it's harming so many patients, but I don't think mainstream psychiatry has admitted to it yet. "Long-term treatment is not necessary for all Robin Murray (King’s College, London) took the opposing view, that antipsychotics are not necessary for long-term prophylactic treatment of all patients with schizophrenia. Although antipsychotics are important in the acute phase, long-term prophylaxis is less clear cut. Patients are reluctant to take long-term treatment when they are feeling well, especially with a side effect burden including obesity. Prof Murray suggested one-fifth of patients could stop antipsychotics after their first episode, and more may be able to reduce doses. In a 10-year follow-up study8, 19% of those with schizophrenia had no psychotic symptoms and were off antipsychotics. In another study, outcomes were better at 18 months in the continuation arm, but by 7 years those in the decrease/stop arm were functioning better. Prof Murray concluded that antipsychotics should not be abandoned, but with long-term treatment to use the minimum possible dose for shortest possible time, aiming to stop in some patients. The future When patients initiate stopping treatment the psychiatrist’s role is to support their decision-making Overall there was more agreement than disagreement, with both clinicians acknowledging the pros and cons of prophylactic treatment, and suggesting dose reduction is considered. They stressed the need for research to identify which patients can stop, when and how. Often the patient initiates stopping treatment, and the psychiatrist’s role is to support their decision-making, with best available evidence." - Are antipsychotics needed for the long-term treatment of schizophrenia? - Schizophrenia - 08.07.2020

@@moonsharn RE: misdiagnosis, "In a small study of patients referred to the Johns Hopkins Early Psychosis Intervention Clinic (EPIC), Johns Hopkins Medicine researchers report that about half the people referred to the clinic with a schizophrenia diagnosis didn’t actually have schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a chronic, severe and disabling disorder marked by disordered thinking, feelings and behavior. People who reported hearing voices or having anxiety were the ones more likely to be misdiagnosed. In a report of the study in the March issue of the Journal of Psychiatric Practice, the researchers say that therapies can vary widely for people with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, major depression or other serious types of mental illness, and that misdiagnosis can lead to inappropriate or delayed treatment. In a small study of patients referred to the Johns Hopkins Early Psychosis Intervention Clinic (EPIC), Johns Hopkins Medicine researchers report that about half the people referred to the clinic with a schizophrenia diagnosis didn’t actually have schizophrenia."

@@moonsharn I wish I could link to some Ted Talk videos. One by Eleanor Longen on her diagnosis of schizophrenia and deterioration in a psychiatric institution until she found an enlightened psychiatrist who believed she could recover. She's now a research psychologist. Another by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk on how a diagnosis is not only stigmatizing but can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

What is NLP?

@@rosettebattista6121 neuro linguistic programming

Is this something scientist are looking into

Same

It sounds more like you never had schizophrenia tbh

I agree!

Psych isn't really about lies or truth, it's about patient experiences and helping to improve symptoms, quality of life for patients and minimise risk

​@@dydx8585do you understand that there is no such thing as reducing symptoms of a sickness of mind ? The only person that could do such a thing is yourself, but it requires you to get dumber.

Your father was lucky.

@@Catlily5 not true there are many mentally ill who never needed psych meds i was not born yesterday our government forces people with mentall illness to go to hte psych hospital adn take dangerous psych meds in order to get housing this should be against the law im not a moron american lies dont work on me im not suprised they way our government attacks other countries for no reason by the way many poor and mentally ill are treated in usa im not suprised the way many poor americans riot in usai will not tolerate trolls i ignore trolls and liars no one is going to make me beleive in their religion or their lies its pathetic the many lies many people make up about many mentally ill people and many other people who are different then they are

What the fuck is wrong with you ? First of all, Bipolar Schizophrenia would be oxymoronic and therefore doesnt exist as a disease. Second of all, you pretend like we schizophrenics would carry a fucking tattoo on our foreheads saying: "caution personality splitting in progress". We wouldnt tell you we have it even if our life depended on it. Because most schizophrenics would never entrust you with that sensitive intel on your hands.

​@@baronhelmut2701 Schizophrenia has nothing to do with split personalities. That is DID and is caused by trauma.

@@Catlily5 ??? Somehow I cant view my own comment, but I would never disagree with what you just said. Its actually one of my most central takes on schitzophrenia. The personalities arent split, they just seem split to others who cant follow whats happening inside a person with such a disease. Its one personality only, its just two different modes that are switched by choice.

@@baronhelmut2701 Still wrong. Schizophrenia has nothing to do with personality. Look it up.

@@Catlily5 you look it up. I actually have it (hereditarily). It has everything to do with personality. You feel like every mistake of yours is observed by others. And as a result you now move very slowly and carefully throughout the world. The "voices" sometimes interrupt your train of thought. But luckily mine dont tell me to do horrible shit. They just mock me for things I do wrong.

The biggest lie I ever believed in was that weed is not addictive.