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@jerrybowers2119
@jerrybowers2119 7 сағат бұрын
Run the dual plane with the comp 280 230 480 110 lobes if the heads are stock vortec head swap will help and mill cc heads to add some compression to 9/1 and a resin phenolic spacer to insulate the carburetor from engine heat. Try 3000+ stall converter 4:11 gears shift 6200 RPM run 22lbs rear tires run old worn out shocks on front or 90/10s and 60/40 rear shocks. Try adding ballast box or weight over back of car behind rear tires relocate battery to hatchback trunk area. Run electric cooling fans. It will run faster with the hood on.
@jerrybowers2119
@jerrybowers2119 7 сағат бұрын
The convertor should help alot also lower tire pressure 22lbs and try just the 1.6 rockers on the exhaust helps top end HP chevy have deficient flow on the exhaust side look at z6 vet cam for example 210intake duration 222 to 228 exhaust Crane always ground cams with more exhaust duration and old to new most chevys ran better with 1.6 and Newer with 1.8 ratio rockers on exhaust side.
@dustinbailey9946
@dustinbailey9946 11 сағат бұрын
You should try a set of drag radials
@fbbc6495
@fbbc6495 11 сағат бұрын
Yep real cool 😎
@msh6865
@msh6865 12 сағат бұрын
Nice work. Only way to know what works best is to try different things.
@fbbc6495
@fbbc6495 13 сағат бұрын
That's pretty cool 😎 budget build love it sounds great 👍 😊
@joshmaust4901
@joshmaust4901 15 сағат бұрын
It might also be nice to put lambda/afr gauge on it to fine tune the carb and timing.
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 14 сағат бұрын
@@joshmaust4901 car has a aem air/fuel gauge definitely has made carb tuning a lot easier.
@ralphparker9263
@ralphparker9263 20 сағат бұрын
Very nice!!
@JamesRS-tk6ep
@JamesRS-tk6ep 21 сағат бұрын
This is a fun channel to watch as you build on your Firebird, reminds me of when I was doing the same in my youth. I have a question for ya though, could you remind us what gearing you are running in the back? Thanks, and keep up the excellent videos. 👍
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 20 сағат бұрын
4:10 gears 700r4 transmission
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 Күн бұрын
Well done. Thanks for the comparison. Such a fun channel without any fluff or BS. Thanks.
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 Күн бұрын
Great video, thanks for all your work to do this. What's the rest of the combo? What cam, compression ratio, engine, heads, transmission and rear gear? Thanks.
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 20 сағат бұрын
305 40 over 8:1 compression,tpi 081 heads, comp 280h cam, 700r4/2800stall and 4:10 gears
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 9 сағат бұрын
@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ok, it's the compression ratio that's holding you back. There is a company from Texas that sells factory regrind roller cams on the Bay of e that are very affordable. Something in the around 210°/220° duration at .050" area with around .500" lift or higher would help your low end torque a lot. Those duration degrees or lower to as low as 200°/210° duration at .050" as close to .500" as you can get. Then do the 1.5/1.6 rocker test with that cam. You want low end torque when you're running a 700R4 to help recover from the one two RPM shift drop. With a low compression 305 even the 4.10 gears won't make up for the lack of torque that engine has with that cam, the RPM drop from the one two shift takes you down to low in the power band of that cam. I ran a factory sbc 305 Vortec with the factory roller cam and 1.6 roller rockers in my '64 Skylark with a 700R4 with a 3.73 rear gear. It weighed in at 3,400 lbs, 3,600 with me in it. The intake is an Edelbrock RPM Airgap and just a crappy Edelbrock 600 CFM carburetor. The car ran 14.0s in the QM. If you can afford it Comp makes a sweet XFI roller cam that I run in my '65 Impala with a sbc 383 backed by a 700R4 with 3.07 rear gears. It has the Weiand style RPM Airgap dual plane intake with a Holley 850 dp setup for fuel economy. Anyway the cam is 202°/212° duration at .050" with .550"/.546" in/ex lift using the called for 1.6:1 rockers with a 113° LSA. You don't have to have fuel injection to run that cam, works great with a carb. The Impala weighs 4,400 lbs and does 13.0s in the QM. Here's the kicker, I get over 20 mpg city and 26 mpg highway with that car driving with a light foot. If it had the right valve springs I believe it would be in the high 12s. The 383 has 9.6:1 compression with cheap Patriot Performance aluminum 195 cylinder heads. This engine and rear gear in the Skylark being 1,000 lbs lighter with the right valve springs would be a whole second faster in the high 11s. The above cam might help get you in the high 13s? Your car is lighter than the Skylark and the above cam is way better than the factory sbc Vortec cam. The unknown factor is that 8:1 compression. I think the factory sbc Vortec engines were around 9.5:1 from the factory? So I can't say for sure what you'll run but can say for sure it'll be better the cam you're running. With low compression you want to replace duration at .050" with lift. You really can't do that with a flat tappet cam though. Factory unported heads usually max out just over .500" lift so going a bit past that will keep you in the max flow longer helping fill the cylinder better without losing low end torque from to much duration. But your heads will need screw in studs for lifts higher than .500" and guide plates. Changing pistons to flat tops would help a lot for more needed compression. Can't wait to see what you do next.😎👍
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 8 сағат бұрын
@@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 3800 converter and NX kit. This summer while building something similar to what you are talking about. 305 vortex bored 30 over with flat top pistons and 500 lift cam and a single plane. Like to be in 12s on motor with a vortec combo.
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 6 сағат бұрын
@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Being a Vortec block it's setup for a factory roller, one of those Texas regrinds would be the ticket. If you're going to take the factory heads in for a valve job and have the factory seal bosses machined down for higher than .465" lifts, you might be better off buying a new set of Vortec heads from the Bay of e. GM is having EQ repop their 305 and 350 Vortec heads that already have the seal bosses machined down and setup for screw in studs so you don't have to run self centering rocker arms. They're supposed to be thicker where the factory ones are prone to cracking too. You can sell the factory Vortec heads to recover some funds for the new ones. Not sure if they flow the same but Hatch's Recreational Engineering bought a set of the 305 versions of those heads for his sbc 307 and he went from 15.9 in the QM to 13.9!😳 He's still learning how to drive it to, with some tuning and driving technique he should be able to at least get it down to 13.5s or better? He did a heads, intake, carb, cam and lifters and 1.6 roller rockers. Basically a top end swap for the little 307. So by how his little 307 improved they should flow pretty close to the factory originals or better? He's running a genuine imitation RPM Airgap dual plane intake and a Holley 600 double pumper. If you don't have a forged crank and not running solid lifters flat or roller with the forged crank you're better off with a genuine imitation RPM Airgap dual plane intake. Cast cranks are only good for 6,500 RPM and so are hydraulic lifters. A single plane intake doesn't start making more power than an RPM Airgap until over 6,000 RPM. Below that the RPM Airgap makes more power, torque and HP.😎👍
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 5 сағат бұрын
@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Oh and you shouldn't need nitrous to run 12s with a 350 Vortec if you choose the right parts that work well with the 700R4. My '65 Impala has a 3,000 lockup stall converter, works great with that little big cam in it. If you get the above mentioned heads bare, you can order valves that are .100" longer than stock so you can get the cheap LS springs instead of trying to get the more expensive sbc springs that will work for your cam. Sbc heads have a 1.7" installed height while the LS stuff has a 1.8" installed height. Valves .100" longer is just what the doctor ordered to use LS springs.😎👍
@sebbonxxsebbon6824
@sebbonxxsebbon6824 Күн бұрын
Nice
@msh6865
@msh6865 Күн бұрын
FYI, you can do install the cam before the crank/rods/pistons with block upside down. Just makes it a little easier. Good job on the budget peanut port 454!
@xtra1234
@xtra1234 Күн бұрын
Can we get some Nitrous on this thing?
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Күн бұрын
Already have NX mainline plate kit for it. Upgrading converter then on to nitrous!
@LyndenMcconnell
@LyndenMcconnell Күн бұрын
You NEVERidle a brand new rebuild. EVER! It wipes out the cam lobes😮
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Күн бұрын
@@LyndenMcconnell cam was already broke in
@doolallyproductions7234
@doolallyproductions7234 Күн бұрын
Just imagine that 454 in the firebird
@markjakubowicz2728
@markjakubowicz2728 2 күн бұрын
Are we gonna get any more firebird videos
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 2 күн бұрын
@@markjakubowicz2728 yes have a video 95% done but between my work schedule and all the rain I haven’t had much luck getting the car out.
@pinkysgarage4517
@pinkysgarage4517 2 күн бұрын
Very well done. If that is a flat tappet cam, it needs to be broken in on start up. 20 minutes at 2000+ rpm. Also use some zinc break-in additive. You probably know that right?
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 2 күн бұрын
Yes sir
@garrickalbritton3995
@garrickalbritton3995 2 күн бұрын
Nice I just built one myself
@NostraThomas25
@NostraThomas25 2 күн бұрын
I’m 2 minutes in…I’m pretty sure a 454 block has enough meat, to punch it .090 over. That should help the cylinders & give you a reason to buy some new forged pistons. Since you’re talking about go-fast stuff, try not to reassemble the camshaft. The reason is this….if you decide to go with a relatively inexpensive turbo build (maybe an “is an eBay turbo worth it” vid?), running a full roller cam and lifters, mated with some forged .090 over 7.5 to 1 pistons, to allow for higher boost. I gotta tell ya…a 477 Cu.In., some forged internals, turbo, roller cam & lifters and some increased fuel delivery system, I’d be SHOCKED if that motor didn’t make north of 900hp. And can be done relatively inexpensively.
@salimsopari
@salimsopari 3 күн бұрын
thank you for making this video!
@user-gi4vu4fu2x
@user-gi4vu4fu2x 5 күн бұрын
Spend time exacting your work consintrate Daniel son
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 5 күн бұрын
Any tips or advice to improve port work always looking to better my self and make more hp.
@JonsPitStopAndMore
@JonsPitStopAndMore 5 күн бұрын
That's what I got in my 84 Z28, 5spd, I've upset a few other cars with it. 😂
@ronb113
@ronb113 Күн бұрын
That must be the H.O. because I had an 84 Z28 with the regular 305 and the only person getting upset was me lol
@100pyatt
@100pyatt 5 күн бұрын
In a drag race if you've got enough power, using taller gears reduces or eliminates a shift or shifts that lose ET. That's why top fuel is the most extreme example of this effect
@pokebass1
@pokebass1 6 күн бұрын
You're the only guy on KZfaq that has managed to get me to watch content about a Chevrolet engine. Good job sir. Keep up the good work.
@techniciana1843
@techniciana1843 18 күн бұрын
Throw some trick flow heads, dual plane and a converter.
@MidwestOptimist
@MidwestOptimist 19 күн бұрын
Doesn't sound good
@MidwestOptimist
@MidwestOptimist 19 күн бұрын
Not hating this. Just one question...Why wouldn't you just change the short block to a 350 383 or a 400? Wouldn't that be much cheaper than all these special parts?
@lil2.74
@lil2.74 27 күн бұрын
Very good video man. I have seen people make this type of comparison yet the run was at a different location and a completely different time of the year. One person's lower gear run was in 30 degree weather and the high gears appeared to be in the summer. Your comparison appears to be a real apples to apples run with likely a similar DA and an identical slope being that you did the run at the exact same location. Had the 60ft time been equal, the 4.10s would have ran 15.30s. Thats a significant difference. Everyone thinks gears are going to be magical, thats just not true. Yes you are going to get into the rpm sooner on the launch but you are also going to upshift into 2nd "higher gear" sooner. So again it isn't magic. Thats a solid gain, again great job with the video.
@justinadams1360
@justinadams1360 29 күн бұрын
Good video. Thanks for the comparison. Could be a little quicker if you didn't spin 60 foot with 4.10s. Great video though
@edwinagonzalez9942
@edwinagonzalez9942 29 күн бұрын
nice video.. is time raise your compression ratio... thah all
@SpAzZzZz_
@SpAzZzZz_ Ай бұрын
Nothing will replace the joy in my heart of a 3rd gen slamming a 2nd gear scratch
@markjakubowicz2728
@markjakubowicz2728 Ай бұрын
Where are the firebird videos
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын
Should have a new video coming out next week.
@yamahaguy1732
@yamahaguy1732 Ай бұрын
I did not expect that much of an improvement
@Toxic2T
@Toxic2T Ай бұрын
What about a custom racey camshaft and a proper exhaust system? Also the ignition, if it can be messed with.
@chrisharriman9017
@chrisharriman9017 Ай бұрын
Put a 2500-2800 converter in it with 3:73 or 3:90 gears help out a lot
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын
Has 2400-2800 stall with 4:10 gears currently
@tristanabell2117
@tristanabell2117 Ай бұрын
Dude i have a electric water pump for sbc thats just sitting around. Id love to see it on the firebird and into the 13s. If you'd be interested send me an email address and we can work something out.
@irineovelasquez1964
@irineovelasquez1964 Ай бұрын
Dont use the peanut port heads, use the square ports. The cast peanut port heads crack.
@msh6865
@msh6865 Ай бұрын
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Peanut ports are fantastic for street engines and they make tons of torque. Square ports are a pain in the street. Great if you plan to shift at 7500 rpm. Best option is the large oval heads. But, peanut ports are a lot of fun. Especially if you like to do massive smokey burnouts.
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын
@@msh6865 that’s the plan
@operatingengineer
@operatingengineer Ай бұрын
Not true ! I have run many peanut port motors and no cracks , and to your rectangle head recommendation that is a terrible idea for a street truck !
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 Ай бұрын
On it's way to brand new used.😎👍
@CarGuyV8
@CarGuyV8 2 ай бұрын
Good video man. I’ve done the same with a single plane before on a mild 350. Certainly didn’t do as good as a dual plane, but had good power, and was fun. I had a bigger stall though. Also be careful when putting on the balancer without a proper tool. I’ve personally pulled some threads out of the crank before….not fun.
@CarGuyV8
@CarGuyV8 2 ай бұрын
I once bought a Boss Hogg stall converter for my Th400. They sent me one that was packaged with the right part number, but it’s splines were wrong. I then ordered a GM25 converter.
@CarGuyV8
@CarGuyV8 2 ай бұрын
That’s a good looking and sounding T/A. The wheels are perfect for it.
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 2 ай бұрын
Thanks car has different cam in it now i posted it in one of my shorts.
@CarGuyV8
@CarGuyV8 2 ай бұрын
@@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Cool. It sounds really good with the 280h.
@georgiaboy1579
@georgiaboy1579 2 ай бұрын
Love it!
@georgiaboy1579
@georgiaboy1579 2 ай бұрын
LoL'z
@georgiaboy1579
@georgiaboy1579 2 ай бұрын
85 GT 😁 My favorite
@bosshogtorqueconverters2549
@bosshogtorqueconverters2549 2 ай бұрын
IF we got you one of our "Street Bandit Series" converter will you show the difference between a heavy 12 inch converter Vs our Super light lock up GM 700R4 10 inch converter? It is 12 to 14 Lbs lighter. The Less rotational mass will pick you up quite a bit more MPH and lower your ET.
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel 2 ай бұрын
Yes that would be great was just looking into ordering a 10 inch higher stall converter. Be more then happy to do a comparison video!
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel
@Krikkebobbyracingchannel Ай бұрын
@bosshogtorqueconverters2549 if you are serious about doing something with a 10 converter I’m looking to purchase a new converter for the car this week. What would be the best way to contact you?
@frankartale1026
@frankartale1026 2 ай бұрын
Your car is in the 13's. Just bring it to the track. These onboard computers are not 100%. I did this years ago and the difference was 2 tenths, and 3 mph faster than the computer said in the car. Plus you will leave harder at the track. Don't be surprised if your car goes 13.6 at the track
@frankartale1026
@frankartale1026 2 ай бұрын
Get the heads milled to boost compression.
@frankartale1026
@frankartale1026 2 ай бұрын
91-92 305 tpi have Speed Density sensor's instead of Mass Air Flow like 85-90 did. There is a difference. My 91 TPI 305 automatic Z28 convertible only got faster with a gear change. From 2.73 to 3.42's. Night and Day. Throttle body airfoil will actually make a difference. I could not believe it, but it is noticeable
@frankartale1026
@frankartale1026 2 ай бұрын
I had 3 of these 305 tpi cars. My 88 Formula 305 5spd 3.45 borg warner 9 bolt stock rear. Car had 130k on it. Air filter was the only mod. It ran 14.3 @ 94 at a track on street tires launched around 2500 and hooked good. The 5.7 automatic 89 GTA i had also had a BW 9bolt with 3.27's. That car ran 14.7 @ 95. 4.10's is too much for this car. The stall converter will make more difference than the rear did. I owned these cars 30 years ago