Retired concrete contractor and on my big pours I would set up overheads witch were basically a L bracket with a I hole that was tapped for a set screw . All I had to do was pull a string line from form to form set at grade and slide a 2x4 that was above the finished grade of the concrete and pull the steel staks the were attached to as we screeded . I wish I would have bought a roller screed . Two back surgeries was what I paid for being set in my ways . Your 100% right form to form is yhe right way to strike the mud off
@redlinemanu12 күн бұрын
Concrete work is hard so we have tried to find the easiest and fastest way to do it trying to avoid injuries especially back injuries.
@gibbyx2inc14 күн бұрын
your labor cost to grade perfect and saving concrete is basically a wash at the end of the day vs. when you just quick grade and pour a hair deep ! I have done both and the cost is pretty freaking close to the same when you compare ! Just my 2 cents.
@Viktor.0115 күн бұрын
Тупорылые арматура на земле валяется
@sylvaniacompostandrecyclin17516 күн бұрын
I can’t believe you guys pour concrete for a living. No rubber boots no come alongs , your roller screed is bouncing. Hope you have a great Darby man. 😂
@bewbathis_321117 күн бұрын
That rebar is doing nothing just sitting on the ground. Isn't it supposed to be held up at least an inch or two?
@raykarkoff49917 күн бұрын
Never seen nothing like this....wow!!!!
@redlinemanu17 күн бұрын
@@raykarkoff499 roller screeds are a game changer
@gazille973t-bagg818 күн бұрын
👍🏾
@kenscott96322 күн бұрын
That's a lot of work for what 3 or 4 stakes and a high screed could do. But I admire your young guy pluck.
@redlinemanu21 күн бұрын
@@kenscott963 we prefer screed rails, leaves less room for error especially for new guys
@roblescurbappealconcrete22 күн бұрын
I think the reason the roller screeds are not used as much anymore because when I started in concrete in 1984 they were only made for commercial work. They were so big you needed heavy machinery to move them around. But I would use one now because I see they are built smaller and it doesn’t require a 10 hp engine.
@Christoph-sd3zi22 күн бұрын
Union wages always help get guys in the trades and an incentive to stay in the trades.
@Christoph-sd3zi22 күн бұрын
The laborers need concrete rakes
@Christoph-sd3zi22 күн бұрын
We used to use vibrating screeds where we would run steel cables back to steel stakes and then the ratchet cranks to pull the screed along. This looks a lot easier
@redlinemanu21 күн бұрын
@@Christoph-sd3zi we've seen people screed that way as well, we have found roller screeds to be easiest and fastest way to screed lots of concrete in most situations
@kirkdunn1379Ай бұрын
just use a regular knife 4 or 6"....
@jordandouvartzidis17452 ай бұрын
I understand that every country may do things slightly different but that looked like it was being done the hardest way possible. That screed rail setup took so much extra work with very little benefit. Just my thoughts
@redlinemanu2 ай бұрын
It actually sets up very fast and we like the screed rail because it allows us to use our roller screed and makes it so we can't dig below grade or leave humps. What country do you pour concrete in?
@jordandouvartzidis17452 ай бұрын
@@redlinemanu iv used the rail setup on different jobs before but see no value in them, I guess when you’ve learnt to do things the “traditional” way and believe that to be the best then these other methods seem strange. I’m in Australia, 90% of concrete is screeded by hand, we also just have one person on one screed. You guys in the states have so many more concreting machines and tools then we do though, iv been watching American Concretors on KZfaq for years and it’s mind blowing some of the stuff you have over there.
@redlinemanu2 ай бұрын
@jordandouvartzidis1745 yeah there are lots of great concreters down under. Seen some good hard workers there. In the US we try to us machines as much as possible but almost every job requires some hand screeding
@jordandouvartzidis1745Ай бұрын
Concreting here in Aus is hard work because we have such a harsh climate during summer, makes you feel old really quick😂😂
@GRUBB-MUDD2 ай бұрын
I wana try this shit on a patio
@redlinemanu2 ай бұрын
it works great! what is a good way to contact you about sending you some screed chairs?
@nikkorglassman7382 ай бұрын
Fabricate bar chairs in my workshop is a break from everything else. Not paying for such simple tech, and as you say it has been around near a hundred years....
@GRUBB-MUDD2 ай бұрын
I do like the idea that anyone can screed
@GRUBB-MUDD2 ай бұрын
Dont use lasers... the oldest simplest tool around and argualbly the best tool is a string line. I set grade steaks
@GRUBB-MUDD2 ай бұрын
Where did this guy come up w the term cow patty😂😂😂😂😂
@redlinemanu2 ай бұрын
we have heard them called that before, wet pads, height pads. Seems like everyone has their own term for them.
@ridgetopdave26382 ай бұрын
Hand rodding would be faster, though a little harder on the back and I never liked how the roller would fling cream back on the finished surface. If this is an advertisement it's funny that you have a Bunyan handle and tube ends on the roller :)
@redlinemanu2 ай бұрын
We like the Bunyan, that was one of the first, our homemade one is a Frankenstein screed with different parts. We find the roller screed to be faster and when the mud shoots over the type we will just go back and screed it again
@dennischarles88702 ай бұрын
Does it get expensive leaving the chair in the concrete?
@redlinemanu2 ай бұрын
no, the chairs are inexpensive and you can reuse them if you can reach them
@gashytewala2 ай бұрын
Where can purchase a screed rail?
@gashytewala2 ай бұрын
Where can i purchase a flat bar?
@redlinemanu2 ай бұрын
from any local metal supplier
@MrBryanOConnor14 ай бұрын
Can you use a vibrating screed with your screed chairs? have you ever? any problems
@redlinemanu3 ай бұрын
Yes you can, we do it all the time and have never had any issues. If you are worried about your rails sinking we also have grade plates that slip onto the rebar and keep it from sinking in softer soil.
@billwatcher93214 ай бұрын
running the power screed backwards !! Dummies. No clue what they are doing !!
@HYDROMANY984 ай бұрын
The way you absolutely sold kicking down the first one vs making sure you stepped on top of the other was comedy gold lol if you’re going to do this kind of stuff you have to at least make sure your not so noticeable when applying intent
@Southboth4 ай бұрын
What if there’s a high point right at the end
@redlinemanu4 ай бұрын
Im not understanding what you mean exactly
@StephenBoesch5 ай бұрын
those aren't going to stay vertical
@IG-by1wi5 ай бұрын
Forms are probably set to grade but they double check elevation with laser. They probably had a bad experience in the past. Somebody probably moved the forms and elevation was off in the past and now they double check with laser
@IG-by1wi5 ай бұрын
People don't like innovation. I've worked on high rise construction for over a decade and been in dozens and dozens of pours and nobody likes to be told how to pour easier or faster. They'd rather kill their guys and "tough it out". Btw, no roller screed in high rise construction in Los Angeles. I saw them years ago. Nothing new, but people are hard headed and stuck in their ways
@matthewfoster3115 ай бұрын
Where is the rebar? Is this a demonstration?
@brianherald57565 ай бұрын
Where’s the tape
@Funnygaishorts1215 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@gotloud16605 ай бұрын
Naw perro thats not screeding
@user-fn3cl5pl2k6 ай бұрын
Take this video. All wrong. Why teach wrong
@deeferred6 ай бұрын
Definitely a union job. 4 fat deadbeats leaning on come a longs
@travisgriffiths81706 ай бұрын
I like the idea of these screed chairs for solo work or with the help of another guy, my days of pouring for a living are over but still do my own concrete
@redlinemanu6 ай бұрын
Yeah they work great for those situations as well. We've poured lots of big slabs too with screed chairs and roller screeds.
@travisgriffiths81706 ай бұрын
You guys ever hear of rubber boots haha
@jasonproulx53236 ай бұрын
Lol! Nice one buddy. You can clearly see that you push the blue one over while stepping directly over top of your so-called superior steel one.
@trex2836 ай бұрын
Do you leave the screed chair in the concrete or do you take it out while pulling the bar out? Thanks.
@1_fishin_magician1537 ай бұрын
not lay...not pour..... concrete is placed.....
@deeferred7 ай бұрын
Nobody pours curb at a 1" slump. Takes too long to place and its difficult to close up in form without massive amounts of honeycomb. Pour a 5" slump, fast, with 2° accelerator and we finish 3 - 9 yard loads a day of curb....every day.
@deeferred7 ай бұрын
Roller screeds are great for small jobs like these. You can use laser screeds on sloped concrete, as long as it's flat, not level, flat. You can also laser screed compound pitched with 3D system. I just purchased 2nd Ligchine Screedsaver Elite. 35,000 sf per day with FF 75 FL 70. Can't do that with Roller screeds.
@quintile97057 ай бұрын
Clever!
@916Concrete7 ай бұрын
We just use a steel stake with a hanger or saddle that seems like too much and in hard ground your not getting that rebar in so from California concrete construction I pass on this one
@donaldcurtis92297 ай бұрын
Screen chairs are for beginners if you don't know what you're doing don't pour concrete