Joan Crawford was 41 in 1945/Bette Davis did not hit 40 until 1949

This scene is not the correct time frame/,this situation was in 1952/the quotes were made against M.M. because Marilyn Monroe was stealing the Joans spotlight for her performance in "SUDDEN FEAR!" This situation took place in the Crystal Room! This was 1952, this scene was not correct/Joan Crawford had no relations with either Pepsi or Alfred Steele yet. And Joan says that Alted just recently passed away which would be in 1959!❤❤❤❤ And yes Joan was inebriated!!!😂

I got tears in my eyes everytime I see this scene❤

They may not eat but ohhhhhh they can DRINK!

I assumed that was a guy. 😂

Jessica/Joan looks fabulous in all that flowing purple!

They should have made the scene where Blanche devours the chocolates realistic in that Joan, ever conscious of her weight, insisted that pieces of meat be substituted.

Starvation in the best restaurants...

I'm surprised that the general consensus is that people never knew Demi Moore could act. She's not been in the best projects but she has always been natural and fascinating to watch. Her struggling social princess in St Elmo's Fire is stunning work and that was right at the start of her career.

Even though Joan was more closely allied to Hedda, she also feared and distrusted her. She knew that Hollywood reporters were looking out for any rift or scandal among actors and actresses, and she was not about to give Hedda any ammunition that night.

Oddly enough, all of these actresses, with the exception of Hepburn, would be closing out their careers by appearing on television.

She was memorable in Rear Window! Gorgeous and evidently articulate and funny! RIP

Demi Moore has always been a very good actress. ❤

Best bit in the film..!

That was brilliant! The acting, the dialogue, the costumes, the set, the editing, all of it!

Happy Father's Day anyway to those sons who struggled to find meaning and purpose.

I hated to see her die. This series made her so lovable

The white makeup looks a bit too - pretty or something on Sarandon. It doesn’t say crazy quite as effectively as the makeup in the original did .

I take it then that neither of them would ever consider going to Lord and Taylor.......would they consider going to Hosiery for gloves?

I sometimes wonder what it would've been like if Harper Lee had ever had lunch with the Swans. Being told through the lens of two different sets of former friends of Truman Capote meeting, through the lens of a childhood friend meeting friends made when he was older/famous (some said he was like the court jester to the swans), and/or through the lens of an Alabama lawyers daughter who came an author who was overwhelmed in the spotlight up against New York socialites who didn't seem like they could survive out of the spotlight. I know, they're people from different parts of Truman Capote's life and they can't really be brought together because they're different stories, but I still wonder.

Aren't we missing one of the Swans - wait, it was Ann Woodward wasn't it? So they did actually hate her and shun her even though they said they were furious over what Truman wrote?

Think they'll do Jackie and Lee in the next season of Feud? Or Olivia de Havilland and Joan Fontaine?

And just what's wrong with dining alone at a restaurant I'd like to know

Why did they hate her again?

Promoting morals? Like YOU, Joan? Marilyn was not a saint, but she was certainly, in terms of her personal life, much more moral than you.

Joan was, at best, in the upper second tier of every Hollywood category. She did not have the sensuality of Clara Bow, Jean Harlow, Rita Hayworth and Marilyn Monroe, nor the acting ability of Sarah Bernhard, Ingrid Bergman, Bette Davis or Katherine Hepburn.

I'm pretty sure Joan already sold her Brentwood home when she did Baby Jane. She was living in NYC most of the time. This likely would've taken place in her LA apartment on fountain street.

All the subjects are rolling in their graves over this trashy hatchet job. Ironically, the movie does to the women--and Truman Capote--exactly what they were so mad at him for doing in his story. Perhaps in an adolescent attempt to portray "strong women," the script turns glamorous, sophisticated society belles into shrieking, foul-mouthed viragoes who think nothing of making scenes in public. Interestingly, the miniseries turned Slim Keith into the ringleader, although she was in many ways the outsider because she didn't come from a patrician background as the others did.

he has a typewriter and you don't. baddest warning yet

Fun fact Lolli Parsons worked for Willliam Randolf Herst's Newpapers and was on his Yacht on that faithful night he killed his partner OH I AM SORRY .....His Partner had a Enflamed ulcer or whatever BS Herst cooked up to hide the truth. Parsons was there as one of his guests and possibly had some dirt bc just after that whole weekend incident she got a very sudden and unexpected promotion and a INSANE Salary increase pretty much she got a salry increase and could never be fired as long as she kept quiet. Many PPL in old Hollywood slept easy in there beds when parsons died I can tell you that She kept more secrets than she revealed and carved out a good career for herself for over 30 years.

Who sing the song?

Hedda was usually right in her predictions but was dead wrong about Joan getting nominated. I cannot believe that I am agreeing with The New York Times on anything, but Joan WAS a one dimensional actress. She always seemed to portray the martyred female with a brave smile, after a while, it got stale.

Overall, though not a flop, Whatever Happened To Baby Jane was not all that acclaimed. It basically struck out at The Oscars, and many critics labeled it from "campy" to even a "dark comedy"!

Two old jealous hags who were popular like 1000000 years ago....what a pity scene

Cualquier otra hubiera ido con un buzo o ropa más sencilla pero no Babe, ella tenía clase y perfección hasta en estos difíciles momentos. La versión original de esta bella canción es Somos Novios del gran cantautor Armando Manzanero. Esta versión también es muy bonita.

So, it basically is a popularity contest among the actors and actresses. I always thought it was movie critics and other objective people who cast votes in the Academy.

God Joan jealous much?

wow.

This show was good and everyone did a great job playing these women but Calista took it to another level. She BECAME Lee.

If Katherine Hepburn was resented by many of her peers for never showing up at the Oscars, then were the four times that she won based on the fact that there was an almost evenly split vote among her four opponents? (Or at least three of the four. I do know that she and Barbra Streisand both won in one of those years due to a tie vote). Perhaps that is why Bette only won twice despite so many nominations. She was not exactly a diplomat when dealing with her fellow actors and actresses. And if this be the case, then is all this just a popularity contest?

But where's the lie? If we go by Joan's supposed birthdate (March 23rd, 1906) and Bette's confirmed birthdate (April 5th, 1908), it's absurd and ironic that Bette looked 10-20 years older than Joan by 1962, when "What Ever Happened To Baby Jane?" was released. They both would've been in their early 50's by then, but Bette easily looked a decade older, even without the white clown makeup used in the movie. Maybe the cigarettes and drinking aged her fast? The modern history of plastic surgery really started to take shape in the 1960's/1970's, when they both were in the dying embers of their film careers. I don't think it would've helped them get roles, but it definitely would've prevented Joan from going into semi-seclusion. After the release of "Trog" in 1970, Crawford retired from the screen. She withdrew from public life, and became increasingly reclusive until her death in 1977. Plastic surgery could've given her a second wind with talk show interviews, and teaching master acting classes: she was too vain and too haughty to do television.

Why was Hopper so certain that Katherine Hepburn would not win that year? She was always a threat. Even if she never showed up at the Oscars, she still won four times.

I simply find it hard to believe that anyone had that much influence or power in Hollywood so as to prevent someone from winning an Oscar. Certainly, Hedda (who was disliked by the establishment) and Joan (who could not even get herself nominated nor prevent herself from getting fired years before by MGM) did not have such sway. If there was one case of influence peddling, I would choose Frank Sinatra preventing his ex-wife Mia Farrow from getting nominated for "Rosemary's Baby", but we are talking the Mafia here!

So Joan Crawford ...I just love it !

How tf did lee not get her own series she outlived all those hoes. And kept grey gardens alive mind you while screwing multiple world leaders and became a princess then white house royalty. Mama has the teaaaaaaaaaaah

It's ironic since CZ was the most gay-friendly considering she was like the most Republican out of all of them

I have that porcelain and that crystal! “Limoges and American brilliant cut glass! Yeah!”

Calista is mothering.

Hollywood could be brutal at times.

Lee was Jackie Kennedys sister?!?!