Warhammer 40k Lets Talk About Spam
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@alaunda-lorenzo3816
@alaunda-lorenzo3816 9 сағат бұрын
Oh Noes! Phobos units do no damage! Enter: Hounds of Morkai. Ask the Norn Emissary they met last tournament...
@KneeCapHill
@KneeCapHill 10 сағат бұрын
Real question: Are phobos ugly and stupid? Yeah. There, nobody should use them ever
@stanberry6798
@stanberry6798 11 сағат бұрын
Great video guys, hope the tournament went well. I've got one this weekend. But I'm going to have to change my list 😢 I didn't realize suppressor squads were so hard to find. I was looking around different LGS in Kansas City. Ans couldn't find any suppressors. So I traded them for scouts and took the 20 points on the chin I guess.
@sbh_tx
@sbh_tx 14 сағат бұрын
The big problem for me with Incursors is that they dont have infiltrate it would make them so much better
@derekhensche6648
@derekhensche6648 16 сағат бұрын
I played a lot of Phobos at the start of 10th Ed, and bouncing two Invictor Warsuits around with Guerilla Tactics was a lot of fun. Especially after Tank Shocking something to death with S14 melee profile. I love the Tank Shock change to Toughness but for a while the Warsuit Tank Shock was SCARY!
@matts8023
@matts8023 16 сағат бұрын
This is the best channel of late. Every topic is interesting and gets me thinking a lot. How did the tourney go? We finally painting our IF army because of your inspiration.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
The tournament update Video is one the way. Glad you like the content.
@shmeeeeeep8797
@shmeeeeeep8797 16 сағат бұрын
In my casual games, people always expect me to remind them of reactive moves and will then measure to ensure they don’t trigger it. Is that something I should allow?
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
I would just mention it at the start of the game. A kind of question I usually ask are "what are your GOTCHA stratagems?" then I explain mine and after that its up to them to remember
@shmeeeeeep8797
@shmeeeeeep8797 11 сағат бұрын
@@hyperspacehobbies thanks!
@12345jina
@12345jina 16 сағат бұрын
I thought this was serious lol
@brothertobias
@brothertobias 17 сағат бұрын
Vanguard Spearhead enjoyers. Nobody needs to talk about Infiltrators and Scouts; Everyone uses these guys, they're baller. The Lieutenant with Combi Weapon (Lone Op) is getting some attention too, with the lone op buffs and especially in Vanguard with the +30 points vect upgrade. Thomas Byrd, renowned Ultramarine fan, really likes Incursors in transports. Give the transport scout to move up and then disembark and throw the 2D3 mortal wound grenade at a tank.
@KrakenShells
@KrakenShells 17 сағат бұрын
I'm calling it now. You will see allied Spectrus Killteams everywhere after the Imperial Agents codex drops if they keep their current rules! Omni scrambles, infiltrate, scout 6", pick up off board.
@chrisprime7767
@chrisprime7767 13 сағат бұрын
I don't know if we will keep the Killteams. The WarCom article kinda sounded like the index units will go.
@littleboober
@littleboober 19 сағат бұрын
omni scramblers are wicked, the 12" is actually radial.. making it a complete 24" bubble. because its 12" from the models.. so its 12" in all directions.. Thats awesome!!!
@ScruffMoney
@ScruffMoney 19 сағат бұрын
Great video! Would love to see Steve talk about how his Anvil did in Tacoma! I love the fists! Rooting for you all the way!
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Coming soon!
@Michaelkayslay
@Michaelkayslay 19 сағат бұрын
Eliminators are fantastic! I take 3x3 of them. And i play blood angels Taking out heros is great
@danielpaoli1093
@danielpaoli1093 20 сағат бұрын
I love the Invictor Tactical Warsuit I think it's a great model, but if it was 115pts I would bring it
@JoobyFoo
@JoobyFoo 20 сағат бұрын
Keep in mind, for infiltrators, you can only gain 1 CP per turn. This includes discarding secondaries too.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
True so sometimes is sorta redundant.
@ThingoftheDeep1
@ThingoftheDeep1 21 сағат бұрын
I’m very excited to do some degenerate Phobos-style stuff with the new agents codex. Be prepared for rogue trader led breachers to put you in inquisition jail immediately
@paulbalfour9339
@paulbalfour9339 21 сағат бұрын
Infiltrators are really good, but honestly, most of my other Phobos stuff has remained on the shelf this edition. I had a couple of warsuits in my dread iron storm until the iron storm nerf and the nerf to tank shock killed that for me. I also used eliminators in early tenth, but the (unjust) 10 point price increase and scouts being so cheap has made them a lot less interesting.
@xxalsinusxx2038
@xxalsinusxx2038 21 сағат бұрын
The charge shenanigan is great. If they only charge 1 you can make it so they can't with the inter-mingle move you stated here. If they charge both, move 1 to block them from basing the second and they can't complete the charge even though you may be close now. It's truly disgusting.
@everettluther9103
@everettluther9103 21 сағат бұрын
Me, A Raven Guard player: "All of my marines are phobos"
@qqwadddamage367
@qqwadddamage367 22 сағат бұрын
I have just enough points! Great analysis, guys. Thanks for upload.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@adampogatshnik6833
@adampogatshnik6833 22 сағат бұрын
Eliminator snipers have heavy for ASF lovers.stay still and you’re +1 to hit +1 to wound and dev wounds. Against most characters you hit on 2s and wound on 2s.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Oh ya that is savage. and a great point too thanks.
@josephrigley8974
@josephrigley8974 22 сағат бұрын
5 Infiltrators with a phobos Librarian is a huge piece of safe screening. I use it whenever I'm running Raptors.
@kyleboulier2272
@kyleboulier2272 22 сағат бұрын
I'm certain I'm not the first to think of it, but I've been theory crafting with the vanguard detachment recently. Running a full squad of Centurion Devastators with Grav Cannons, giving them deepstrike with Uriel Ventris, giving them the option for Upie Downies, combined with Strike From the Shadows they can one shot any knight or landraider on average, and even a very decent shot of one shooting a Stompa. It's jank, but jank is fun!
@chaosheaven23
@chaosheaven23 20 сағат бұрын
I go heavy into Gravis using Vanguard. I'll drop a Captain and 10 man unit of Heavy Intercessors on the mid board using the Infiltrators enhancement, then pack my back line full of tactical retreats while I tactically retreat my meaty infantry units that suck at dying.
@kyleboulier2272
@kyleboulier2272 17 сағат бұрын
@chaosheaven23 man, I thought I was the only one that loved heavy intercessors. I give the infiltrator enhancement to a chaplain in terminator armor leading a full squad of lightning claw terminators, basic I know, but more importantly it's fun.
@chaosheaven23
@chaosheaven23 17 сағат бұрын
@@kyleboulier2272 I also run Assault Terminators, but I usually try to DS them in the enemy deployment and hope they beat up something ugly with their hammer and shields. They almost never die, but their movement is admittingly a bit of an issue.:P
@chrisprime7767
@chrisprime7767 13 сағат бұрын
I would look at Las cannon centurions. If you face monsters, the Grav won't do much. Also keep in mind, strike from the shadows let's you pick a Infantry unit and give them +1 BS and AP. All of a sudden, you got centurions, hitting on 2, rerolling 1s (ability they have) Twin linked Las cannons lol
@chrisprime7767
@chrisprime7767 13 сағат бұрын
Deepstriking in lol. And you can pick them up again, I played that tons and it works well!
@g-monk2775
@g-monk2775 23 сағат бұрын
Nice video. Bikes should have Haywire mines
@nicholasd7107
@nicholasd7107 23 сағат бұрын
You guys are keeping me in the fight right now. The Soldiers love you both!
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@ElStinkador
@ElStinkador 23 сағат бұрын
I hadn't thought about the charge strat like that. I am definitely going to keep that in mind moving forward, because that is NASTY!
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Ya it is such a tricky way to ruin a charge.
@brucebracken9679
@brucebracken9679 23 сағат бұрын
As a Raven Guard player, this video makes me smile :)
@AzimuthWing
@AzimuthWing 23 сағат бұрын
Gladius TF: LR Crusader, Tor Garadon, Biologis with Fire Discipline, 6 Aggressors 😜
@joelpaultre7440
@joelpaultre7440 23 сағат бұрын
If i ever pick up space marines i would play mainly phobos. I'm sure it wouldnt really function, but they're the coolest looking marines imo.
@Johnnymarzo
@Johnnymarzo Күн бұрын
love the vid guys thanks! I played the vanguard recently and realised that the calculated feint thing is so OP. however on the recharge, they never have to roll the boxcars, cause the 11 would be able to get them in no? a 12 means they'd be outside of 12 to be within the inch engagement?
@jprovorse4159
@jprovorse4159 Күн бұрын
I’ve been back and forth with having an eliminator squad and 2 war suits in my anvil force. Scout the suits up to the eliminators and just park em. Get that Phobos wizard with the eliminators and dare your opponent to come and get some.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Oh those eliminators with +1 to hit and wound is nasty stuff in Anvil Siege force.
@jasonneuhaus6348
@jasonneuhaus6348 Күн бұрын
Hey Guys! I love using a unit of incursors for the +1 to hit "mini oath." I usually run a stormspeeder thunderstrike as well, so i hit one monster or vehicle for the +1 to hit and +1 to wound in the shooting phase, and then typically oath a target I plan to hit hard in the fight phase.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Right on that's some awesome stacking of bonuses. Love it.
@chronos6706
@chronos6706 Күн бұрын
What do we think to the 1st company task force with the new captain ability? You can make one seriously tanky assault terminator squad that procs battleshock to just remove a model with the enhancement. It just sounds funny
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
If it works then it would be awesome. I just see it struggling to do the actual thing you want it to do. Defiantly cool if it goes off though.
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness Күн бұрын
🔥🎸🔥
@darkkevinkilleur25
@darkkevinkilleur25 Күн бұрын
16:05 this also works with Gladius squad tactics strat!!
@icebow2059
@icebow2059 Күн бұрын
Another great video!
@chrisfrank5129
@chrisfrank5129 Күн бұрын
What's your opinion on the Raven Guard chapter master shrike? He can basically turn jump intercessors into phobos since he has the keyword.
@chrisfrank5129
@chrisfrank5129 Күн бұрын
Not to mention, he let's you pick the unit back up and makes the unit untargetable outside of 12
@chrisprime7767
@chrisprime7767 Күн бұрын
I've been playing Shrike a few time now, with Vanguard Vets. They shred Infantry and have some vehicle threat with inferno pistols. I rapid ingress them usually to get more out of the unit and the inferno pistols. Super fun to play and hard to pin down for the opponent
@chrisfrank5129
@chrisfrank5129 Күн бұрын
​@chrisprime7767 I'm really tempted to try that out, it sounds like he makes them into better warp talons.
@chrisprime7767
@chrisprime7767 23 сағат бұрын
Give it a try! I enjoyed it a bunch! The vanguard Vets with the lethal hits on the charge. I run 10 so I get 40 attacks with lethal and possibly oath or moment if needed lol I had people try to run assault jump Intercessors but I don't like the idea of S4 attacks with no bonus. The mortal wounds are okay, but not super amazing imo? Probably a preference thing.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Just used him a few times recently, I think he is more of a utility piece during the early game then set him up for a charge late game. His attacks are great but I think getting VP out of him in turn 1-2 is more important. all in all he is pretty awesome.
@justinc246
@justinc246 Күн бұрын
Loving the little dives into the under represented unit types. Steve I’m wondering if you’ve tried the eliminator spam in Anvil Siege Force? When my local group first saw the codex we were all talking about different combinations like the eliminator spam in Anvil. The las fusils all have heavy already, giving the carbine to the sgt means they can fire and fade to position them after moving up the board. If they’re stationary they get dev wounds on their d6 dmg las fusils with +1 to wound. Also for all those SW players out there who have a grudge against Magnus, send some Hounds of Morkai if you haven’t already done so. As for normal uses for Phobos, at least one unit of infiltrators are a near auto include in my SM lists for enormous screening potential against armies like GK, Chaos Demons, etc. I might have to give incursors a revisit though.
@jamesroocie9564
@jamesroocie9564 Күн бұрын
I like the phobos lieutenant for scout moving transports forward.
@Jason-wh7in
@Jason-wh7in Күн бұрын
Lieutenant in Phobos armor is great with incursors. I think this interaction may have been missed? So he has the lethals aura but also can let a unit d6 extra move after shooting. Great for huge threat ranges and tying up a unit or two etc. he still scout moves, so he can still work with the squad for stuff.
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Oh ya that guy is pretty strong. and a great unit to add a little more board control with the scuttle move too.
@Luftwaffle12
@Luftwaffle12 Күн бұрын
Stop giving away all my Top Secret Tech! lol, Where/When do we get the Tacoma rundown and how Steve made out? I'd love to hear a tournament breakdown about your experience!
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Coming soon!
@rickdriver0
@rickdriver0 Күн бұрын
My first two purchases were the Phobos kill team and Vanguard task force boxes. I love the look of them, it's just a coincidence they happen to be useful 😂
@daviddefalco4190
@daviddefalco4190 Күн бұрын
I love the Vanguard detachment. Was such a good fit for my Alpha Legion. Phobos are a lot of fun for constantly making your opponent have to guess at what you had up your sleeve.
@JawaBob
@JawaBob Күн бұрын
Unit Highlights Lets GOOOOO
@JeanParisot
@JeanParisot Күн бұрын
12:52 Oh shit they changed it to infantry units and not phobos... another nerf 😭
@Sanctjud
@Sanctjud Күн бұрын
Seems more like an upgrade. You can string out a Blade Driven Deep unit, like 10 Terminators/10 Jumppack Marines, to push enemy Infiltrators away, then redeploy them where you actually want them. Way more flexibility.
@JeanParisot
@JeanParisot Күн бұрын
@@Sanctjud But I can't redeploy my two Invictor Warsuits any longer. It's a nerf for a phobos heavy army.
@SuperFearlessleader
@SuperFearlessleader Күн бұрын
As an owner of an all Phobos army, this is awesome!
@rickdriver0
@rickdriver0 Күн бұрын
What do you use for damage dealing/anti tank? 😜
@joelpaultre7440
@joelpaultre7440 23 сағат бұрын
This is what i would do if i got into marines. Phobos are the coolest looking marines.
@spruceschmickington3005
@spruceschmickington3005 Күн бұрын
Good content recently, fellas
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@recon2491
@recon2491 Күн бұрын
yeah it would be great if gw showed more love for phobos aka Raven guard units nice video 👍
@catherinedalzell3183
@catherinedalzell3183 Күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have a lot of Phobos units sitting on the shelf that I was scared to use. They appear to be very weak. But now I'm going to give them a try. They should be a lot of fun to play.
@captaincorundum9788
@captaincorundum9788 Күн бұрын
Never be afraid to try stuff. There's a reason why a lot of meta innovations take a while to come to the front of the competitive scene. Be experimental!
@chrisprime7767
@chrisprime7767 Күн бұрын
Try them out! I have to say, you usually bring phobos dudes for their abilities. They won't murder units but definitely support other key units
@hyperspacehobbies
@hyperspacehobbies 13 сағат бұрын
Great advice for sure!
@TheBigLevange
@TheBigLevange Күн бұрын
I have some definite blind spots when it comes to theorycrafting and list building, and Phobos is one of them. I sometimes consider Infiltrators.. but otherwise my eyes glaze over at their anemic combat power.. I am probably gravely mistaken!