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@user-sr8nx9bi4b
@user-sr8nx9bi4b Күн бұрын
I've had a few 4000 mah 6s turnigy graphene panther lipos and found them to be powerful but heavy and swelled quite quickly when bashing. it was a few years ago though. I just use the turnigy heavy duty 4000 mah ones now there good enough for me for the price
@stevendegiorgio3143
@stevendegiorgio3143 Күн бұрын
This is all good to know.I fly 35 inch wingspan planes and I never had to extend my ESC wiring.If I ever got a much larger plane,this information would become very important.ESCs are very pricy.
@nevillecreativitymentor
@nevillecreativitymentor 2 күн бұрын
errrr....brrrr... errr.... bzzztt. brain just short circuited. LOL
@scottm2398
@scottm2398 3 күн бұрын
If youre going for a higher kv motor to get more speed , but then you gear down with the higher kv motor to get a similar speed to what you originally had then what's the point of changing the motor at all? Lol
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 күн бұрын
It's best to start conservatively checking temps before adjusting gearing for max performance.
@art.alagna.design
@art.alagna.design 3 күн бұрын
I'm confused....I'm running a 2200kv motor at 2x5000 milliamps. Where that 73 is coming from? How can you run such high amps? Thanks
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 күн бұрын
A motor data sheet for current. Where does your 2 x 5000mA come from? What RC are you running? This is not a commonly measured value of current in an RC vehicle. Also, measurement tools do not specify current drawn as a multiple - 2x. The measurement tool you are using is way off I'm sure.
@steelrat5604
@steelrat5604 3 күн бұрын
Silly question. Who or why the changed the way if rating electric motors, I understand 700 W at 12 V and let say 7000 rpm. It’s clear and simple, so why to switch to the kv and turns ?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 күн бұрын
I ran my old 9.6V Graupner 700 on 14.4V. What if I ran your motor on the same 14.4V, how would you determine total RPM?
@steelrat5604
@steelrat5604 2 күн бұрын
@@RCexplained I am not here to argue, just wonder about why ? Anyway the RPM would depend of the load, I think - a bigger propeller would slow down the motor ? Beside, I have old ASH 26 model which long long time ago I got from Germany. I got brushless motor for it - I think it was F10 (700 W) from USA, cost me a fortune at the time 700 US %. Now, my dilemma is. what kind of battery pack to use for this motor which use to ran on 12 V 2000mA Nic cad batteries. I just plan to go back and fly it.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 күн бұрын
I was leading you down a path to determine why you need Kv. In order to figure out a different RPM, you would need to take 7000RPM/12V = 583Kv (calculating Kv that wasn't provided) Take 583Kv x 14.4V = 8400RPM. These are all unloaded values with the Input voltage. As hobbyists we need this information. Try a 3000mAh 3s LiPo. Measure performance on bench to determine if this is satisfactory.
@steelrat5604
@steelrat5604 2 күн бұрын
@@RCexplained I understand the calculation for RPM. Now, what if I want to replace the motor - how do I know which one to buy - to have the 700 - 1000 W ? I think I read about guys trying to run the motor with the LiPo batteries and burning it. What would suggest as a replacement. The specific glider is 3.2 m wing span, so needs good power. Appreciate your help.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 күн бұрын
Find out how many watts per pound you want to be at. Somewhere around 40 to 75 is quite common for smaller gliders. Then buy a motor around this power rating. Choose a kv that will work with your preferred battery voltage.
@snakes301271
@snakes301271 4 күн бұрын
is the range as good as the rc6 v3. do you still get the 600m when there is no external antenna?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 күн бұрын
I haven't tested range but do expect range to be the same.
@sundell79
@sundell79 5 күн бұрын
weight? did you forget .... best would be to raise the volts ... can c decrease .. carier
@scottm2398
@scottm2398 5 күн бұрын
Huh ?? Speak English
@pnewt3378
@pnewt3378 5 күн бұрын
As long as you know the capacity of a pack, you can just make a label that states the current capacity, no need to toss it
@frankdearr2772
@frankdearr2772 6 күн бұрын
Great topic thanks 👍
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 5 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@mypanicbutton9194
@mypanicbutton9194 6 күн бұрын
Question: Torcman offers many of its motors at a particular KV with a choice of winds e.g. 10, 12, 14 or 16. What difference does the number of winds make and is the difference significant?
@mjollnirboy
@mjollnirboy 6 күн бұрын
Thank You for such an immensely useful video. Could you please share the sources/references for the formulas and the calculation tables used. Thank You.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 6 күн бұрын
Glad the info is helpful. I don't have sources or references for this info readily available. What do you need this for?
@sanghyunhwang1297
@sanghyunhwang1297 6 күн бұрын
Wait.. then what is the point of using a high Kv motor, if it has the same RPM and torque but draws more power and creates more heat?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 6 күн бұрын
Different Kv options are available to allow varying voltages to be used with the same class motor and then from there RPM tweaking.
@leonardojadue9275
@leonardojadue9275 7 күн бұрын
This is the best beginner tutorial I've seen for learning airplane electronics. Thank you!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for the comment
@daiciuapostol79
@daiciuapostol79 8 күн бұрын
Can you try SLS SPEED EDITION battery?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 6 күн бұрын
It's tough to get these in to Canada
@daiciuapostol79
@daiciuapostol79 6 күн бұрын
@@RCexplained ok
@dangullik1
@dangullik1 9 күн бұрын
Nominel meens nothing 3,6 or 3,7 its all the same , max charge is 4,2 for both lipo and li-ion, li-ion have more usable energi no matter if it says 5000mha on both the li-ion have more time running
@user-tk6jx7ju1f
@user-tk6jx7ju1f 10 күн бұрын
Drag racing needs high c ratings for maximum speed
@The_future1991
@The_future1991 10 күн бұрын
many thanks°!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 6 күн бұрын
You are welcome!
@christiannasca3520
@christiannasca3520 10 күн бұрын
I would never have expected this! Instead I would have expected all manufacturers would be advertising their regenerative braking all over the place, if it was a thing! Thanks for your fantastic and insightful content. 👍🏻
@RedPanda_00806
@RedPanda_00806 11 күн бұрын
Hello, my 2S Li-ion battery says 7.4V is that false or is also available Li-ion with 3.6v and 3.7 v?????
@ubreakitirepairit3569
@ubreakitirepairit3569 11 күн бұрын
The manufacturers of these batteries should be held to a much higher standard. It’s understandable that these batteries are used for devices that are categorized as “toys”. So it’s easy to inflate ratings with that thought in mind. But did these manufacturers forget that these batteries are being used in toys that can potentially cause great bodily injury? Imagine buying a battery for your remote control flying RC, only to have it fall from the sky because of inflated ratings. I guess it will take for something like that to happen before they are held accountable.
@GeorgeBurger3
@GeorgeBurger3 11 күн бұрын
it would be interesting to see a max amps pack tested they claim to be the worlds best in rc
@captjohnny
@captjohnny 11 күн бұрын
Why not do a video on battery heat versus voltage or current output??
@dylanwhite6539
@dylanwhite6539 11 күн бұрын
I’ve been buying batteries from zeee for years. I get the capacity listed if not better, and they perform well in my vehicles. Including their 10k 4s packs on a max5 5690 combo in a xrt. I know their C ratings are bullshit, but I’ve still had better from them than the likes of spektrum and traxxas. SPC batteries actually had extreme swelling for me, popped the hard case. Zeee packs have been stable. How ever I have gotten some bad packs from them, but unlike the local hobby shop, you can return these packs to Amazon even with the connectors chopped off
@jamesatkinson7517
@jamesatkinson7517 12 күн бұрын
What battery went 80 seconds I would like to know
@jamesatkinson7517
@jamesatkinson7517 12 күн бұрын
I have went through close to a hundred lipo’s in my boats and find there are no lipo brands I have used so far,telling the truth as far as C rating goes. As far as resistance goes I have some batteries with high resistance that go better than others with low resistance.
@kaiarneberg9203
@kaiarneberg9203 12 күн бұрын
I REALLY Wonder how my gens 11000mah 100c delivers!! 😄
@V8chump
@V8chump 12 күн бұрын
Another issue with the community is RCs being discontinued and unsupported after just a couple years or RCs that are still being sold having half their parts on permanent back order from every retailer including the manufacturer
@ThomasManiscalco-cb9fl
@ThomasManiscalco-cb9fl 12 күн бұрын
I got a 50c 3s venom battery and its lasted longer then spektrum 100c 3s batteries
@edwincordero8
@edwincordero8 12 күн бұрын
Test Gens Ace, Pulse Lipos, Zippy, Motion Rc lipos, Spektrum lipos
@davidnieves2202
@davidnieves2202 12 күн бұрын
Great video
@davidnieves2202
@davidnieves2202 12 күн бұрын
Ummmmm yes you can use a 2s lipo in either the dx5c or pro lol just have to remove battery tray and solder your own connector and it works. I have a 2S 3000 mAh gnb in mine
@toolbaggers
@toolbaggers 12 күн бұрын
This isn't about Traxxas' lies about top speed? 🤷‍♂ They also try to be as anti-consumer as possible with their batts. A whole video series about how bad for the hobby Traxxxas (or Horizon Hobby) is for the average consumer would be interesting. People need to be educated that only mid-stage capitalism is good. Early stage is the wild west full of snake oil poison while late stage is monopolies and dictatorships.
@MrBumbles2
@MrBumbles2 12 күн бұрын
they have to sell the B ,C grade cells somewhere. , lying is the norm
@theadventuresofshellyandfr5618
@theadventuresofshellyandfr5618 12 күн бұрын
I need high C rate for my boats. I don’t trust the C rate. I go for the wire size. 10gauge. At least.
@captjohnny
@captjohnny 12 күн бұрын
Battery ratings in mAh are like MPG ratings for cars....if you don't go over 10 MPH you'll get the MPG that they claim....and if you only drain your battery mildly, you'll get their top rating....anything more and the ratings will decrease....in both MPG and mAh
@snuzum06
@snuzum06 12 күн бұрын
I bought a few Zeee batteries for my Losi MX ProMoto and they perform awesome for my style driving, lots of punch and long run time. So I bought a pair of larger (more Mah and more C rating) Zeee batteries to run in my Kraton 8s and it will run awesome for about 5 minutes then hit LVC. Let it sit for a bit and restart the truck and can go again like they were fresh batteries.
@V8chump
@V8chump 12 күн бұрын
I had the same issue with some lectron pro batteries. I think the discharge is too low, your ESC makes the voltage drop so much that the ESC thinks it’s at LVC. Also even if you have great batteries that hit LVC normally, you can turn off your rc and turn it back on and it’ll act fine… for a second before it realizes the battery is dead… so they could just be dead and turning it off and on just resets the LVC status. Maybe get a cheap cell voltage checker to test. Hope this helps man!
@snuzum06
@snuzum06 12 күн бұрын
Yea I tested them and they were near full still.
@Mr.Wednesday.
@Mr.Wednesday. 12 күн бұрын
My guy is a hero we don’t deserve 🥹🪖🫡🇺🇸
@Casitascrawlers
@Casitascrawlers 12 күн бұрын
Battery makers no most people are not going to test batteries to see if they are what they claim it’s already been found by people testing the ratings are way off they always say it’s a higher mah then it really is. This is pretty much false advertisement but no one is going to stop them from this so it is getting worse until some agency steps in & files a lawsuit. It’s ridiculous just put the correct info on the batteries. It’s the cell count that matters you run a high speed on a lower cell count & of course it’s not going to go as fast as the same mah count with a higher cell count.
@scottkernan9007
@scottkernan9007 12 күн бұрын
If I'm racing max amps,or Onix and Amazon only good for cheap car parts for cheap cars
@BMfins
@BMfins 12 күн бұрын
This whole video and you did not name one battery company. Awesome waste of time.
@BMfins
@BMfins 12 күн бұрын
Pro Tek are always good from what I have found.
@ruuster83
@ruuster83 12 күн бұрын
C ratings have been inflated at least 4X over on most affordable packs for as long as ive seen. 100C Zeees are legit 20C, which isnt terrible but its 5x worse than they claimed. Just be real with us, we'll still buy it if it works....
@Truth12345
@Truth12345 12 күн бұрын
I'm wondering if the same battery series remains the same over time. In pc components they often are released with high quality components and later when reviews are done replaced with lower quality components (they do that with ssd's for example).
@reconrc1787
@reconrc1787 12 күн бұрын
No they are not, look into the good Lipo companies like Onyx, SMC or CHNL (Cheaper) etc. These top tier lipos batters are pushing the limits of what we have ever seen. The cheep Ebay / Amazon lipos, yes. But I would argue they are just for toys but if your a real hobbiest then your going to want some good lipos.
@pnewt3378
@pnewt3378 12 күн бұрын
I never expect more than 20c with any pack
@Powerpickle68
@Powerpickle68 12 күн бұрын
Are you taking into account the temperature of the battery when testing ? At what temp are the batteries tested ? I ask because a heated battery will have a lower IR than a cool/room temp battery. example a battery of 90f vs 70f
@bradcarpenter1881
@bradcarpenter1881 13 күн бұрын
The RC gods are pleased, you are doing the lord's work with exposing these scams!
@nickkoepplinger9204
@nickkoepplinger9204 13 күн бұрын
I would really like to see a smc srd v3 8600mah 250c
@UserWasBannedForThisPost
@UserWasBannedForThisPost 13 күн бұрын
The problem is many manufactures are actually selling Lion chemistry pouch cells as LiPos. These have 3.6v average voltage per cell vs 3.85v. True Lipos are Lithium Cobalt Oxide chemistry and can deliver 50% of their energy to 3.85v midpoint vs 3.6v for Lion. You can do a CC CV discharge test to see what the midpoint voltage is for half the rated mAh. 3.85v for true lipo and 3.6-3.7v for Lion pouches. Lion pouch and LCO LiPos can have the same IR, but LCO will still perform better because it holds a higher voltage under load (about 7%). Manufactures do this because the cobalt additive is expensive, and cobalt free Lion can tolerate a lower over-discharge to 2.5v before puffing vs 3.0v for LCO.