Technically, yes. They are choice restricted with each other, so you can only play one or the other. Thankfully, there are six Zeroth Dragons.

Thank you for the correction; you're totally right on that! I somehow completely disregarded the entire call skill since it's optional. We even had a discussion about this prior too, lol. Idiot is me. Apologies to everyone for that blunder (7:20)!

​@casualzonecfv You're good don't worry! I just like how it is straight up the best OT for the deck. This OT plus Hamariel really buffs the deck. Anyways, really like your premium vids!

Hamariel is more of a tech choice and isn't all that necessary for pure Gavrail. They already have the defensive power that they don't quite need her. I can see her being used more in builds like those that include Aratoron. This way, they can have more access to G-Guardians for their Denial Griffin play. If you want to add her in, you may start by removing cards that aren't the rescue units except for Zabaniya if you run her (she's slow and clunky). Everything else is pretty much non-staples, so you actually have plenty of room.

Deck profile coming soon.

All three decksets require additional upgrading to be more competitive. If you can only pick one, I would always suggest picking your favorite and roll with it. All three are very viable with some degree of investment. I also don't know your exact budget, so I will base it mainly on what's available in the decksets. Budget Cecilia: 447WG This list will do just fine and is still strong. Even though it's missing some key cards, like the counterchargers, you can still make due with tighter resource management. There's a lot you can ignore in this video, so I included the more important cards to pick up. At a quick glance, they seem to be affordable enough. I do recommend picking up at least one more Katrina along with two copies of Cycloned as some of the main priorities, as they are ridiculously busted together. Budget Raging Form: 4SEE0 Raging Form is probably the most ready right out of the box because it already contains most of their key cards and potentially has the strongest ride-up of the three. Looking beyond the deckset, there's V Raging Form, which is used as a follow-up to Raging Rapt. You would then reduce the amount of Raging Falls to slot V Raging Form in and also add more techs to support their gameplan. However, V Raging Form and the other techs have skyrocketed in price, and I don't think it would be considered a budget build anymore, so I didn't include them in this list. If you would like to know more, just say the word, but $$$. I'd say to simply pick one that you like and just play. You'll figure out what it needs afterwards, and you'll gradually improve it over time. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

@@casualzonecfv Thank you so much for the big help Zone, I really appreciated it: coming back to the game wasn't that easy not only because of the money but also for the understanding of the mechanic of the decks. Btw, I didn't understand when you written " If you would like to know more, just say the word, but $$$". Also, I need to ask you if you'd rather suggest me other budget decks that are bettere than these two budget versions of Raging form and Cecilia, like idk Gear Chronicle with Steam Maidens (idk just saying) Btw, my budget is 100€. Hope it can help, thanks again!

Always happy to help. Also, welcome back to the game! A lot may seem complicated at first, but everything will start flowing once you actually start playing. I highly, highly recommend one of these decksets for a budget deck. These are actually the perfect way to get started and are as budget-friendly as they can get because they contain a lot of valuable cards like Harmonics, Sanctitude, etc. Nothing else can top that at the moment. All three decks are also exceptional and can be very competitive too. While they do require upgrading still, it should be well within your budget to upgrade it at least a little bit to allow the deck to play the way that it's intended. Since you mentioned that you were interested in Cecilia and Raging Form, I would suggest starting with either of the two. Regarding that comment, apologies if that was super vague! I meant that I can tell you more about upgrading the Raging Form deckset further, but it'll start costing a lot more as a few of the Revenger cards shot up a lot in value. It would no longer be the budget build that you are looking for.

@@casualzonecfv Thanks for the welcome back Zone and don't worry about the the super vague comment! About the Raging Form in fact, at first I was interested in since I like Shadow Paladins but since I saw that some raging form cards are shooting up in value and since I discovered, I might start with Musketeers. Also, may I ask you which cards in the g-zone I can use/buy to replace (temporarily) the 2nd and 3rd copy of Katrina? Since it costs a lot and I think I need to focus on the Main deck first and then on the G-zone in order to make the deck more consistence, maybe something like Ladislava or idk, other Link 4 bosses.

Musketeers is a great choice to start with! With your current budget, you can certainly make do and slowly upgrade it later. I agree, the main deck should be prioritized for now because you want to enable the Reverse loop more easily to really make an impact for this deck. I suggest maxing on Cecilia Reverse and picking up the 2-3 Usurp Dragons for it. As for the replacement for Katrina, Ladislava is a good alternative. You'll find that she's a bit more clunky and will hit less hard, but she does have pinpoint searching for utility. Also, she's for the Megacolony matchup to let us at least do _something_ against them. Then there's Midsummer Flower Princess, Lieta which is also a decent option as well. She can call cards from the deck with the same name as all cards in your soul, including the heart. You can pretty much play anything that can call Reverse from deck to get the deck going. But don't forget Cycloned too if it's doable for you. Even with just a single copy of Katrina, scaling tokens will make them hit harder than anything else in this deck.

We recently just uploaded a new deck profile for Cecilia with the Crest support. The updated decklog is in the first few seconds of the video.

That would be Sea Strike Dragon, Enlargulv.

It can definitely be an issue, although not always because Jewel Knight has some built-in sustainability to help with that.

LOL. Do we actually sound like that? It probably doesn't help that we edit out most of the banter, so it may seem that way. Although I assure you that we are always enjoying this game.

​@@casualzonecfv you're heavy breathing and card scraping is a match for Vankhol 40 lol

​@@dreadlord8628 Our mic is extremely sensitive that it can capture all ambient sounds. We'll work on getting a filter for it, but can't promise the card handling. It's second nature at this point.

@@casualzonecfv fairs, one's nature/habits are hard to change.

Evangeline flips a copy to stride in the main phase. Then flips a 2nd to call so there were 2 face up Evangeline in the GZone.

That's awesome to hear! I still run Sweet Berry for the token generation which can be used for repopulating the board or highroll through plays and some disruption. I can totally see the merits of running x2 Honolies. As for V Padmini, x3 is honestly enough to find the Crest. Space is already tight enough that it's hard to include more where she eats up a lot of tech slots for cards like Kiara, Augusto, etc. I suppose it'll vary from people to people. I have players here who can draw into OG Cecilia 90% of the time, so they don't run Padmini lol. Clearly a skill issue on my part. How is the x1 Vineyard Elf for you?

@@casualzonecfv Vineyard Elf is very nice! Because the space are already very limited Augusto wasn't worth running so Vineyard Elf can do the same as Augusto (Recycling) but better (Recycles and Counter Charges) ! Neo Nectar's G Guardians are CRAZY GOOD! Robertina as stated for recycling and counter charging. Then you have Rain Breath Dragon which you can pull off some funny situations with Saul (top decking OT or Heal Trigger) and can catch your opponents off guard if you call Honoly from hand during the opponent's 4th attack. I would honestly run more Vineyard Elf if i can..

Thanks for your input! More G-Guardian access is always appreciated. I had a similar thought process with Enlargulv and he gets bonus points for being able to add cards like Angel Ladder back. Sadly, too many techs, too little space.

@@casualzonecfv yeah..i really want to make space for Kiara but man space are just too tight ..

I'm also running x1 Vineyard Elf. With Vineyard Elf in your build I recommend trying out x1 Sacred Tree Dragon, Rainbow Cycle Dragon in the GZone. It's not flashy and is effectively a weaker Robertina. But it's very effective for preventing deck out and conserving you're 'good' GGuards.

Space has actually gotten rather limited since we got Virginal Cecilia. In practical situations, I can see Inverno and even the 3rd Katrina not coming up so they have a chance to be cut. In which case, I'd fill it out with more utility and not the other Musketeers Strides as I don't want to dedicate too much space to Strides that are essentially just flip fodder. Antero is still useful should I decide not to flip him.

Apologies if I misspoke! I meant when they drop multiple Honolies in a single turn. Even if they were to call only one Honoly, they'd still be swinging lower by trading in bigger numbers for more defense (assuming Katrina turn).

@@casualzonecfv true, but that’s true with a lot of Katrina turns. The deck usually calls SOMETHING defensive if it’s not trying to win.

I agree. I was only trying to emphasize that Musketeers can continue to push even after calling a Honoly without hurting themselves. It's so perfect that they can lock it right after the 4th attack on the Katrina turn. The only thing that would hurt from a Honoly is not leaving a token to lock instead for more highroll plays, which really doesn't come up often anyways.

Ladder can also shut down or severely slow down certain control that turn and the turn after, which could be key, like Narukami, Shiranui, LJ or Kagero. While at all times not super needed against every control matchup, it definitely makes the Narukami match a lot bearable. Plus the extra 5k on every Cecilia reride is nice

Musketeers needs a full board to really go off making them quite fragile. Favila is sometimes just not enough, especially against decks that can disrupt multiple times in a turn. Angel Ladder is turn-wide. For now, I decided to play both to be safe until my local meta deviates from disruption heavy decks.

Agreed! Also with Granblue being one of the best and most popular decks right now, Cannoneer hurts a lot. Not to mention, a double Cannoneer play that will just shut down the entire turn.

Bracing Angel Ladder is a MUST for musketeer when the top 5 decks all have Battle Phase RG disruption, Favila only protect your first Reverse Cecilia from getting interruption (what if you top 5 and got another one, Bracing Angel Ladder ensures that you can keep the momentum going)

Thank you as well! Will you also be doing one again? I'll be sure to watch it! We have also picked up cards from Festival Booster for other decks! Although without actually testing them, (along with Azure Sky White Scale, Aspronia&Sapphira) they seemed a bit too restricting. Needing to be called from hand other than during battle phase, really hurts their viability, I feel, seeing as how we're mostly calling things from deck and in battle. Also I'm not a huge fan of too many counterblasts in Musketeers since I mainly funnel into Cecilia and Saul. I'm certain that these cards and their "clones" will see more play in other decks though. I can already smell the cooking with these. How has the Crest been in testing for you? Would love to hear your thoughts!

@@casualzonecfv I agree the cards are limiting. They really nerfed premium abuse with them lol. It does help with going first. It's better for long game benefits. Your Force markers will scale and cards faceup in G Zone. But that's pretty much it. Going second it's still better to go onto Katrina as before. However, depending on who we ride with, can determine if we get an initial Force marker. I know others that still play the old way but with some new cards still like Sea Strike Enlargluv and Bracing Angel Ladder. Once I have time for it, I'll play test it more.

Thank you for being so kind! I'm sure there are far better uploaders out there than us. We're awfully slow, but we'll continue doing this for as long as others are enjoying it.

Sorry for the wait! Here is the deck code: 2QHZG. Keep in mind that this is just our most recent decklist and it will change overtime.

@@casualzonecfv thanks!

We have other deck profiles lined up for the moment, so we will consider it after tinkering with the deck more first.

That's been a bit since this Gyze deck! Allow us to get back to using it first since we dismantled it for the time being. We will most likely do some gameplay of it first though.

We have everything, so eventually yes. We just feel both those decks can still be optimized further, so we can't promise that we will showcase them any time soon unless we have the more casual decks duking it out. Out of both of them though, Celestials are closer to being optimized, so they might be the next choice to showcase.

@@casualzonecfv Definitely can't wait for both. Much love from Bulgaria ❤️

Thank you! Makes us feel a bit better about how strange sounding we are on camera. Interesting suggestion. May I ask what kind of commentary style videos you are referring to? Like voice overs in match videos and things of that sort?

Personally, I would benefit from a voice over in some of your matches! I listen to a lot of content on the go / driving. Nexus corps does a great job explaining what's happening without needing to look at the screen. Having this type of content would allow me to watch you guys on the go too! Currently, I watch a lot of your deck profiles on the go for fun

That actually sounds surprisingly fun to do! Getting player insights and perspectives on the match would be a pretty neat idea so maybe we can try it just to gauge interest in that style of video. Although we can't promise anything since timing would no doubt be an issue and we already don't post enough as it is. But we will definitely consider your suggestion because it sounds very compelling. As always though, thank you for sticking with us!

More to come! We'll be showcasing different builds and deck lists as well just so that it doesn't become too repetitive for some people.

@@casualzonecfv Glad to hear that! And thank you for cutting the OT ❤️

Glad to see more people liking the OT cut!

Haha. Love it when we play it, but hate it when we play against it.

I'm not sure, but something tells me that AF will win... 🤔

Very good eye! We have long since removed the Over Trigger from match videos because we realized how much it made recording suck. OTs can literally sway the game so hard to the player who checks it that it becomes a matter of, whoever checks their OT, wins. We figured it was a better idea for viewers to see how decks with their own strengths and weaknesses can compete against one another without the possibility of sacking an OT to win. Only deck profiles will retain the OT as long as it is still legal.

@@casualzonecfv Ah I understand completely. The games don’t lose any appeal at all and I still built angel feather because of you guys. I’ll keep watching for more matches⚔️

And we continue to do this because of viewers like you, so thanks a million for such kind words and for sticking around! More will come!

Don't worry, we're never truly gone!

You're very welcome! It's a toss up as to whether Angel Feather Gyze is better or not, although it is widely agreed that Gyze would edge over regular AF variants. As with all decks, pure AF and Gyze have their pros and cons, and a lot of it is dependent on matchups. If the matchups aren't terrible, they are both viable in these regards. However, Gyze is also more popular with its very simplistic playstyle and fairly easy win-con since it does produce more results. Gavrail, on the other hand, is nearly the exact opposite of that. Non-Gyze variants have difficulty closing out games, and that is really what AF lacks in general.

@@casualzonecfv That all makes a lot of sense to me. I really pray that pure angels will get more support down the line then. Also I know that it has already been asked for in the comments here and I do not mean to be annoying but may we also see an angel gyze list from you guys as well? It is okay if you don't or can't really!! Thank you anyway and keep up the great work!

Not annoying at all! We enjoy interacting with you guys. Also sure why not, Angel Feather Gyze deck profile inbound. Look forward to it!

@@casualzonecfv Omg wow, thank you!!! Really appreciate you guys for listening to comments all the time and take your time too! ♥

Hamiel is only banned in the V-Premium format but this is for Premium. She is safe here and won't be touched since there are many outs to her in this format.

Yeah, definitely! Despite it being one of the weaker clans, it can still perform and actually does surprisingly well against some better decks.

It surprises people for sure lol

The set D-PV01: History Collection introduced meta-changing support for the Premium format. Every clan received an errata to their old on-hit strides to have an additional skill when you are on a specific Grade 3 and did not get an Imaginary Gift, which then allows us to Stride even when the opponent is on Grade 2. As for the two Order tickets, this is also an errata given to Harmonics Messiah. If you go second, you can reveal Harmonics Messiah from your G-Zone and put a Guardian Shield ticket (20k shield) into your hand. Combining this with V Starters now gives us both the Guardian and Quick Shield if you went second. In addition, cards with updated shield and trigger values were also included, so be sure to check out History Collection to find out more and feel free to ask further questions if you need.

​@@casualzonecfvwow! I didn't know!! That's why I've seen many Jannat critical on kagero decks! Thanks for your answer!❤

We'll just copy and paste the response we gave to another viewer on the same question. The ride fixer for Angel Feather isn't as amazing as some of the others. There's no card that we absolutely want to ride into or search for as a lot of the cards we play already accomplishes what she does but better and more efficiently to add cards from damage to hand. Also, her skill has an additional cost of a pseudo-counterblast which can make her somewhat clunky to use. Not a bad tech option though and can potentially see more value elsewhere but for this build, we really don't need her since she doesn't bring much else.

Both iterations of Raphael will find more usage in Gyze variants. For non-Gyze, striding into Raphael is usually never the better play because all she really does is stall and doesn't exactly advance the game state. It's often better that we try to push every turn instead to deplete the opponent's resources. They do have their uses but is _extremely_ niche to the point that they're almost wasted slots, which is why we excluded them in the current list and kept more practical strides and also filled it out with more utility in G-Guardians.

Yea that makes sense. Angel feather gyze deck profile next maybe? :)@@casualzonecfv

We feel most Angel Feather Gyze lists are quite standard at this point but if that is what people wants next, then sure! As always, we'll gauge interests first before making that decision.

The ride fixer for Angel Feather isn't as amazing as some of the others. There's no card that we absolutely want to ride into or search for as a lot of the cards we play already accomplishes what she does but better and more efficiently to add cards from damage to hand. Also, her skill has an additional cost of a pseudo-counterblast which can make her somewhat clunky to use. Not a bad tech option though and can potentially see more value elsewhere but for this build, we really don't need her since she doesn't bring much else.

Having none is perfectly fine and really doesn't change it all that much. Since this is a crit build, we want to maximize on crits anyways and we already have multiple ways to guarantee PGs without having to sacrifice too much room for them. Local-wise, it'll all depend on what you're mostly up against and you'll need to adjust your own ratios based on that since everybody's local meta differs. Although, it's best to have at least some main deck PGs like grade 1 PGs as a replacement for safety, specific matchups, random guard restricts, etc.

The deck list for Witches is now quite outdated so we will just grab it from a previous video. Here you go: NV8D

Much love! More Angel Feather games, no problem. As for the promised deck profile, it has actually already been completed. Although, we aren't able to upload it for unknown reasons (possibly file issue) so we are looking into a fix right now. Worse comes to worst, we will redo the entire thing, so please wait just a little longer!

@@casualzonecfv No problem at all❤️

​@@casualzonecfv Btw can you do Messiah VS Megacolony as well?

Yep, of course. Give us some time and you'll see it eventually.

@@casualzonecfv Thank you so much ❤️❤️

That's very motivating to hear so that we continue to do this whenever we can. Thank you always for sticking by us and for watching! No problem on more Angel Feather! If you have any match ups in mind, feel free to mention it. Otherwise, we will record anything as we usually do.

@@casualzonecfvAngel feather vs aqua force?

Bless up! 🙏

We got you on more match ups when we're able, no problem at all. Deletors can be pretty explosive and really unfair given that everything goes right for them. Games can just end instantly on a Cosmic Dawn turn as you can see. The biggest issue, it's quite glass cannon. Very susceptible to removal and requires many pieces making it rather highrolly by nature. The deck overall can still perform the same as ever on a good day but, can sometimes just lose to itself and also has poor matchups which might make it less favored in the current meta.

@@casualzonecfv Thank you❤

Background music is considered but, it'll all depend on how much people wants it in videos more importantly. The bantering however, we'd like to keep it minimal and off camera since it may be distracting to both us and the viewers. We always gauge what people wants, so thank you for the suggestions and for watching!

@@casualzonecfv I'm currently enjoying the simplicity of your videos. As someone who looks for videos from a competitive stand point, music and talking is noise not needed, I'm here to see how these decks do against each other which is exactly what you provide! keep it up!

That's very nice to hear! Thanks a bunch for your feedback and for watching, always!

Agreed!

Preach!