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@cottonsoxx1677
@cottonsoxx1677 16 күн бұрын
5:15, what is that thing on the prop blade?🤔
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 14 күн бұрын
It's a flag. It's required when travelling on road (trailer). I just didn't take it off when I got home and flushed outboard.
@OGMoses_
@OGMoses_ 27 күн бұрын
I have a 2015 130hp Yamaha 2stroke goes really well I’ve had no issues so far it’s got 270hrs on it but I’d rather a 130hp 4 stroke for the reliability and fuel efficiency I’ve owned a 100hp 2010 4 stroke and never had any issues I put 1200 hrs on it too
@mikeamphlett7913
@mikeamphlett7913 Ай бұрын
Got the two stroke. We do mainly skiing with kids so will stick with it.
@pavelmartinov661
@pavelmartinov661 2 ай бұрын
здравствуйте. что можете сказать о моторах Эвинруд Итек. Знаю что их болье не производят как они себя зарекомендовали,
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 ай бұрын
Now put 130hours in my F130A Four Stroke and it's opened up nicely. Best economy is around 3800rpm at 2.8km/litre. Also, 4300 / 4400rpm provides 2.5km/litre at 50km/hr.
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 3 ай бұрын
A boat with a 2 Stroke will be across the Lake and back before the 4 Stroke gets on Plane
@shyman9023
@shyman9023 3 ай бұрын
2004 two stroke is an old motor.
@DustinKeating-yk3vq
@DustinKeating-yk3vq 3 ай бұрын
I have a 07 Yamaha 115 2 stroke i take very good care of so i can't last until i die
@shanewatkins5322
@shanewatkins5322 3 ай бұрын
Pardon my language, but two-stroke sounds meaner than hell! My dad has a 115 two stroke, it will get on down the water
@metinakpinar9724
@metinakpinar9724 4 ай бұрын
Great compaison and what a cracker that 2 stroke motor is.
@shivamohan5408
@shivamohan5408 5 ай бұрын
Which size propeller do you use for the 4stroke 130
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 ай бұрын
The 2 stroke was using 13-1/2 X 15 Pitch S/S. The four stroke has a 13-1/4 X 17 Pitch S/S
@danielturner4154
@danielturner4154 6 ай бұрын
I went from the 140 v4 yamaha to a f130 and definitely not disappointed. Hole shot was about the same. Top end on the f130 is 2kmh less but is running a size down on prop vs the 2 stroke. Getting 6400 rpm 2pob 100L fuel. 73kmh. 5.5m glass hull.
@zizwehunt1872
@zizwehunt1872 11 ай бұрын
I have both 150hp on a bass boat. Tried both on the same boat and i love my 2 stroke way more the only down fall is how it drinks twice as much gas at W.O.T. Besides that everthing was perfect with my two stroke!
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@JackJack-ld5eo
@JackJack-ld5eo Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video! I have a 94 Yamaha 85 hp 2 stroke that I'm replacing with a 115 hp Yamaha 4 stroke. While I do love my 85, it is 30 years old and some of the parts are becoming "no longer available". I do a lot of trolling which the 2 stroke hates, and then there's the noise. On a small boat like mine, even if your up front the engine is loud.
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I do soooooo much more tolling now I have the 4S
@mikesolns1364
@mikesolns1364 10 ай бұрын
What does it hates trolling mean? What does it do?
@cavedivecamp6377
@cavedivecamp6377 Жыл бұрын
I had to replay this video. Lots of talk about impeller problems with the yamaha motor being displayed onscreen....
@danielturner4154
@danielturner4154 Жыл бұрын
What prop is on the 4 stroke?
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 10 ай бұрын
Hi, the prop is 13-1/2 X 17". Probably could be a tad less pitch with max RPM being 5800
@danielturner4154
@danielturner4154 10 ай бұрын
@@ShortFlic thanks mate. Have just repowered from 140v4 yamaha to the f130. Still yet to water test but trying the 16" for max rpm.
@siviunative5241
@siviunative5241 Жыл бұрын
I still love 2stroke
@Topofthegears
@Topofthegears Жыл бұрын
I feel bad ruining 2l per hour on a 25hp inboard
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 10 ай бұрын
Diesel? or Petrol 4 stroke. My brother had a 30ETEC which did 6km per litre of fuel (at 30km/hour). This equates to 5 litres per hour. That's the best I've come across in petrol..
@Topofthegears
@Topofthegears Жыл бұрын
HOLY JESUS 56 liters per hour that’s about £85 😮😮
@disilberg9896
@disilberg9896 Жыл бұрын
🚩👍👍👍
@marshmellow3110
@marshmellow3110 Жыл бұрын
I had twin 130 2 strokes on my first catamaran and 150 4 strokes on second. I currently have a 115 on a aluminum center console. Looks exactly like your 130 but 15 less hp and I’ve never seen that 130 in the US. Not burning oil is nice and better MPG’s, but hole shot on the 2 stroke is unbeatable
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comments. Yeah, I think the F130 was something Asia Pacific? or Australia / NZ thing. Maybe we are the Ginny pigs :). Both are great motors
@stevekamitsis1327
@stevekamitsis1327 Жыл бұрын
Steve in Florida I have a 115 4stk at low rpm at 800 remember I also have the prop rattle good video thank you Steve
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I found some seriously technical documents online but it makes sense with heavy Stainless props verses and 4 stroke power cycles. I purposely avoid that rpm. I would suggest any extra vibration or load cycles is not good for engine longevity..
@MrWhiskylee
@MrWhiskylee Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put the comparison video together, very informative
@jonsmith398
@jonsmith398 Жыл бұрын
two stroke will beat a equal 4 stroke every time
@Anthony-du3he
@Anthony-du3he Жыл бұрын
Great video👍
@mooen83
@mooen83 Жыл бұрын
The 2 stroke is 165 kg and +the oil system.
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 10 ай бұрын
My motor was 130BETOX 169kg.
@armagansabetian5269
@armagansabetian5269 Жыл бұрын
Great point highlighting 2 stroke's terrible fuel economy at low speed.. I get at best 1 litre per kilometer on a 90hp Mariner.
@andrekemp5059
@andrekemp5059 Жыл бұрын
We call the 130hp Yamaha 1 Thursty! Power is good
@jimjg9923
@jimjg9923 2 жыл бұрын
The 2stroke can handle higher pitch....
@michaela8435
@michaela8435 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to go faster then buy a Merc Pro XS and you have alot more fun
@Bp2.5
@Bp2.5 Жыл бұрын
🤮
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, appreciate the Yammie / Merc rivalry. Merc don't do a 130hp...yet. 150hp too heavy too
@johnbumpus7138
@johnbumpus7138 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent non-biased video I’m assuming this is Australia , it’s funny 130hp on that boat would be considered significantly under powered here in the US but it seemed to perform just fine
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Probably something to do with boats and outboards being sooooo much cheaper in the States :) . Boat is rated to a 150hp but an extra 50kg is a lot to consider going from 130 to 150 including a six cyclinder (verses four) and quite high centre of gravity. The balance is perfect
@rwd323
@rwd323 2 жыл бұрын
I reckon the 2 stroke has one of the best outboard sounds at idle
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic Жыл бұрын
Yeah agree. Punchy. The four has opened up a bit, now doing 120hours. It has a nice mid-range whine (like the old mercruiser sterndrives). Miss the 2 stroke, not the fuel bill or smoke.
@lorenzomasi7023
@lorenzomasi7023 2 жыл бұрын
Hi..can you tell me the weight of the boat without engine? Thanks..great video!
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question - sorry for the late reply. The boat hull is 860kgs
@mrpoky208
@mrpoky208 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on my second season with my new Evinrude etec 60/40 jet. No issues so far. Anything I should be aware of? I was going back and forth between the Yamaha and Evinrude....
@timjohnun4297
@timjohnun4297 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot to like about those old V4's (Pretty sure they are a copy of the old OMC's), but personally I would never go back to a 2 stroke after having a 4 stroke. Just personal preference
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic Жыл бұрын
Yeah, those 60 degree cylinder angle (low head design) were manufactured by many outboard makers with commercial fisherman in mind, especially netting with low obstruction over back of boat
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 2 жыл бұрын
Right on. I live two strokes...sorry to see them go, but I love my new Suzuki. I was surprised though reading the owners manual and watching KZfaq videos at how much recommend maintenance there is.
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic Жыл бұрын
After starting to do my own, it really isn't a massive issue or cost, even running full 5W - 30 Synthetic oil. Cost from dealer is $750. Cost at home is $120...Bit like a small 4 cylinder car
@muhdhairul7140
@muhdhairul7140 2 жыл бұрын
Mantena blok v...1.3..
@tcap7917
@tcap7917 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video comparison. What did you use to capture the fuel consumpsion on the 2 stroke?
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for your question. I installed a Lowrance Electronic Fuel Flow Sensor (SKU: 000-11517-001). This connects to Lowrance HDS7
@bonoyoutoo2746
@bonoyoutoo2746 2 жыл бұрын
2 STROKES FUMES KILLED PEOPLE THAN 4 STROKE...PERIOD
@TasmanianDevil3
@TasmanianDevil3 2 жыл бұрын
Try propping the 4 stroke correctly. You're short 500rpm
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, could do with a minor prop change although its done 100 hours now and its opened up a bit. Can get about 5900rpm
@lorenzotr93
@lorenzotr93 2 жыл бұрын
There is an error in the consumption calculation: the 2-stroke travels 1.21 km / l about 15% more, not bad. Furthermore, the state of the water is different in the two tests and this affected the 2-stroke.
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment. Not sure what you mean about error? At WOT the 2 stroke is only doing 0.82km/l (820mtrs) and the four stroke at about same revs is doing 1.47km/l. Based on my recollection, when the 2 stroke is doing 1.21km/l , the revs would be about 5,000rpm (probably 62km/hr). The four at this rpm would be doing about 2.4km/l and maybe 55km/hr. Hope this make sense
@nimsu
@nimsu 2 жыл бұрын
I love banging on my 93 Evinrude 120 for hours.
@geraldkoth654
@geraldkoth654 2 жыл бұрын
You can run a two stroke wide open for as long as you like. Run a four stroke wide open and you will soon be buying another one.
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I asked the Yamaha Service guy about this (as I've just completed my 100 hours). He said the four is happy to sit in the top end rpms. In the past 2 strokes with few moving parts were definitely considered more reliable however fours have come a long way. Near flat out at 5500rpm is nothing for a 1.6L four cylinder vehicle engine....
@TasmanianDevil3
@TasmanianDevil3 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute nonsense.
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned both and for me the 2-stroke is my preference.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 Жыл бұрын
Cummins oil injected dry sump OP 2 stroke
@metinakpinar9724
@metinakpinar9724 4 ай бұрын
2 stroke motors just dont die and yes I love the smell of 2 stroke 🤣🤣🤣
@nightfevernight
@nightfevernight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video ! I will choose the 2 strk!
@ryanvtec3885
@ryanvtec3885 3 жыл бұрын
only 9 liters of gas between the two. im gonna keep my two stroke
@letsbuildawall4989
@letsbuildawall4989 3 жыл бұрын
HOW FAST IT WAS IN KILIMOETERS
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 жыл бұрын
Top seed is about 42km/h
@AquaMarine1000
@AquaMarine1000 3 жыл бұрын
A two stroke may have less parts but reliability is questionable for example the conrod needle bearings have been known to catastrophic collapse. This two stroke rattle is not what you want to hear.
@vlogcity1111
@vlogcity1111 2 жыл бұрын
As opposed to valves And timing chains? Four stroke still have bearing that blow Up too
@scambustersbaap_ifrit8218
@scambustersbaap_ifrit8218 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure some new outboards have variable valve timing to improve low end torque and high end power. Having said that, more moving parts...
@AquaMarine1000
@AquaMarine1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@vlogcity1111 Most four stroke engines have a one piece crankshaft and use slipper white metal bearings which are oil pressure fed. The reliability of slipper bearing is very high, they always last the life of the engine. With tens of millions of modern four stroke engines in service slipper bearing failure is less likely than the odds to winning a national lottery.
@vlogcity1111
@vlogcity1111 2 жыл бұрын
@@AquaMarine1000 I agree with the mechanical aspect. There’s a reason you didn’t address valves because that’s a huge weak point. Most high quality precision bearings will last the life of an engine, valves however can go pop at anytime without notice. Usually a con rod or crankshaft bearing will give you a noise when it starts to go, whereas valves can shatter or melt without and pre warning. Yes that can happen on a two stroke but not as frequently.
@AquaMarine1000
@AquaMarine1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@vlogcity1111 Some two strokes like the Detroit diesel do have exhaust valves. No engine is unbreakable especially if it is not maintained or operated beyond it design parameters. Two stroke engine production has now been relegated to history. Cheers
@pedrogomez3168
@pedrogomez3168 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of boat is that chief?
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 жыл бұрын
10.14 Brooker 410 Fisherman. Not made anymore
@user-tk8fg4wc5q
@user-tk8fg4wc5q 3 жыл бұрын
А где Эвинруд?
@ShortFlic
@ShortFlic 2 жыл бұрын
Gone
@user-tk8fg4wc5q
@user-tk8fg4wc5q 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShortFlic not good, это не хорошо, классные моторы были😒