Why isn't "cinio" written with u as "cunio"? \/w\/
@blakkrozesina816310 күн бұрын
When do you use u and when i? It#s a bit confusing for me yet 😅 \/w\/
@pelagius_morvan14 күн бұрын
The second person seems to me to sometimes having the Ы/ or ɨ sound but to have it fading. It is very light sounding compared to Russian there. I am struggling at hearing any differences in ynys, ymyl, sydyn, dyffryn, dyrys, hysbys (since I am furthermore used to hear ynys as enez e Ledaveg…)
@welshplus13 күн бұрын
The two vowels in those words should sound distinct. The first _y_ is /ə/ like the "а" and second "o" in Russian "облако". For for the north Walian speaker, the second _y_ is /ɨ̞/, more like "ы" in "дышать" or "е" in "жена" although less pronounced that Russian, as you say. Think of it as a light "ы". The distinction between short /ɨ̞/ and /ɪ/ for some notherners is very slight and for southerners they're both /ɪ/, so it's not a sound you have to worry about too much.
@Takayama-samaАй бұрын
The reason I looked up this video was because on my trip to Wales last month I picked up a hat that said Cymru on it and I could not wrap my head around the pronunciation of it. A U making a ee sounds is just so strange to me. I didn’t know how to proceed from there if the letter U was so different from anything I knew, not just in English, but also in Japanese the language I’m taking a break from at the moment. Hopefully I can get over that hurdle and learn something new
@welshplusАй бұрын
Yes, it is quite different to English and Japanese 😄 If you're down south, just think _u_ = _i_ and if you're up north, _u_ = _i_ but with the tongue a bit further back in the mouth. With enough exposure to the language, you soon get used to it. Hope you had a great time in Wales!
@Takayama-sama29 күн бұрын
@@welshplus Oh I most certainly did! I had one of my best early morning walks in New Port and Cardiff Castle was quite a site to behold! Oh and just re-reading my comment I did not mean strange in a bad way. I hope I didn't come across and rude or ignorant. If I did I apologies, it was not my intention. Welsh is a fascinating language to be sure and I would like to learn more!
@welshplus26 күн бұрын
@@Takayama-sama No, that's not the impression I got from your comment at all. It's cool to try and get your head around something that's just so different, right? Sounds like you had a great time in Wales. The further north and west you go from Newport/Cardiff, the more beautiful the country gets, if hills, mountains and the coast are you're kind of thing. Come back and visit again!
@Takayama-sama26 күн бұрын
@@welshplus Oh good! I’d just hate to come across as the ignorant tourist. I mean I probably am ignorant to many things, but I don’t want to be the rude ignorant tourist. Ooooo! I love mountains and coasts! If it’s anything like what I saw in Ireland or Scotland then I’m sure I’d love it up in northern Wales too! Oh I’m definitely going to visit again! ❤️🏴
@judylearn7971Ай бұрын
Have been studying Welsh for several years, and I love this channel!
@welshplusАй бұрын
Diolch yn fawr ☺ Daliwch ati! / Keep at it!
@МаринаВитальевна2 ай бұрын
Спасибо большое! ❤🤝🌞🕊
@saiDdinosaur2 ай бұрын
So a e i u w y or aaaaaa😂😂
@saiDdinosaur2 ай бұрын
Go see your post office then to go to the office and see what your schedule is, welsh alphabet. 😂
@jaycee3303 ай бұрын
Should note with "s" the combination "si" (like sion) becomes the "sh" sound.
@welshplus2 ай бұрын
Yes, this is in video **5. Extra sounds** : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oquiqKqLsbGakqs.html
@jaycee3303 ай бұрын
And the word "Ysbyty " (hospital) gives a good example of all three sounds at once.
@jameshumphreys97153 ай бұрын
Do you say reis and Beic as you would say the words as if English Bike and rice or nearer to bake and race
@welshplus3 ай бұрын
_Reis_ and _beic_ sound like English "race" and "bake", yes 🍚🚲
@somejansmind4 ай бұрын
Good news I am fluent in my welsh sounds as i learnt in 2 hrs (by this channel with a work sheet aswell)and now i can make my cousins (who like railways) have fun. Yes I know how to pronounce, Llanwrtyd,Caerdydd and others. A big thanks for Welsh plus for teaching me different ways to speak welsh? (I speak a mix of the welsh dialects)
@somejansmind4 ай бұрын
0 0:28 i thoguht that was a railway station i got mixed with Pen*helig (* or pengam) woth machynlleth
@somejansmind4 ай бұрын
What about the middle like Machynlleth or Dyffryn Ardudwy
@welshplus4 ай бұрын
They both follow the rules given at 1:15 - final syllable like Welsh _u_ and non-final syllable like "a" in English "ago". So the _y_ in _Machynlleth_ and the first _y_ in _Dyffryn_ are like "ago" but the second _y_ in _Dyffryn_ is like Welsh _u_ (i.e. similar to English "i" in "in").
@somejansmind4 ай бұрын
No like how they say it. Is it like based how close the region of Wales is? For example, Pwllheli (North Welsh) or Llanwrtyd (South Welsh).
@welshplus4 ай бұрын
@@somejansmind Ah, I think I know what you're asking. You're talking about the accent in mid Wales? I thought you were talking about the middle syllable of the words! Are you a Welsh speaker or learner?
@somejansmind4 ай бұрын
Learner.
@somejansmind4 ай бұрын
I learnt Welsh for my cousin's as they like railways (Mostly Welsh because they like how it's hard to pronounce) and I teach them sometimes.
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
0:58 no. 괜찮아요.
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
1:25 나는 무서워요...
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
3:50 it didn't go well at all...
@Glottophilismata-ew2qq5 ай бұрын
So, the non-final syllable 'y' must also be unstressed so that it acquire the sound of "a" in "ago"?
@welshplus5 ай бұрын
Bearing in mind the stressed syllable in Welsh is usually the last but one, you can say any _y_ you find (stressed or unstressed) is like "a" in "ago" unless that _y_ is in the final syllable of a word (i.e. the syllable after the stressed syllable). So in a word like _ysbyty_ the first _y_ is unstressed "a" in "ago", the second _y_ is stressed "a" in "ago" and the third _y_ is unstressed "y" in "happy". Does that make sense?
@Glottophilismata-ew2qq5 ай бұрын
@@welshplus Let me see if I understood correctly: the ee'-sounded "y", must occur: * in tonic (stressed) monossylables, being they long or short; * whenever appearing in the post-tonic syllable, given the tonic stress is always a paroxytonal one, i.e., located in the last but one syllable of a word. Is this right?!
@welshplus5 ай бұрын
@@Glottophilismata-ew2qq You got it 👌
@KitWriter5 ай бұрын
I'm neither Welsh nor am I from that side of the Atlantic. But I have a character in my book series that speaks Welsh, and while she speaks in English to other characters, she mutters to herself or curses in Welsh, she discretely insults people in Welsh (IE: "Yes, yes, whatever you say fy lembo), especially bad guys. She doesn't use it often, but whenever I can sneak it in, although I do occasionally try to hang a lantern on her Welsh. She's southern Welsh, and occasionally jokes that phrasings like "popty ping" was invented by the Northern Welsh to lure in people on holiday with cute sounding nonsense, because let's face it ... even though I live in Florida, USA, I'm well aware of how the North and South of any nation can treat the other half of their own countrymen, lol. Anyhow, I know this was posted EIGHT YEARS AGO, but I just wanted to say that I appreciate the both of you making wonderful learning tools like this. Thank you. I really do appreciate these videos to make sure that when I do use Welsh, it's in a manner that shows respect to the character and her heritage. I love that you show the difference between modern north and modern south, so that I can have my character pronounce phrasings correctly. <3
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
3:27 f**k you. just kidding, i like it.
@MichelleSt48206 ай бұрын
When I listened to the pronunciation of the letters i and long y in northern Wales, I noticed that it is pronounced exactly like in the Swedisch language.
@welshplus6 ай бұрын
They're very similar, yes. Northerners have to stick together! 🤜🤛
@PKWI5876 ай бұрын
In Welsh, is the letter W also pronounced /w/ as in walk, like the English W?
@welshplus6 ай бұрын
Yes, before another vowel, _w_ is /w/. We cover it in video 5: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oquiqKqLsbGakqs.htmlfeature=shared&t=82
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
@@welshplus huh??? i didn't even know it!
@sritchie8 ай бұрын
I loved these videos so much that I put together an Anki "pronunciation trainer" deck using audio clips from the first few videos, modeled off of Gabriel Wyner's Fluent Forever pronunciation trainers. Would you be okay with me sharing this (for free) with, for example, the Reddit learnwelsh community? The deck has: - Cards for all consonants, long and short vowels, with an example word and image - Each of these gets one card where you hear a word and have to spell it, and one card where you hear the letter sound and example word and have to guess the letter - Tricky consonants get "minimal pair" cards, where you hear two words that differ by, for example, "r" and "rh" and have to note which is which It's a really helpful distillation of the ideas in the first few videos; I'd love to share it but would love your permission first. Thank you for the lovely resources you've put out there!
@elleari899 ай бұрын
Just trying to pronounce the song name Y delyn newydd for my music exam 😅 help
@welshplus9 ай бұрын
You can hear each word individually here: forvo.com/search/y/cy/ forvo.com/search/delyn/cy/ forvo.com/search/newydd/cy/
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
@@welshplus what's forvo? also, i'm not clicking these links!
@sapphoenixthefirebird50639 ай бұрын
The pronunciation of "tu" and "sur" sound like Russian "ты" and "сыр", so is the northern Welsh U = Russian Ы?
@welshplus9 ай бұрын
That's right!
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
@@welshplus 무슨?
@rustymason386011 ай бұрын
By far the loveliest Welsh teacher on the Interwebs, dioch yn fawr. This is how to teach language! The background music is a little too loud, though.
@staceyhaworth7875 Жыл бұрын
This is a good video. I think it would also be helpful if before pronouncing the words below each short and long vowel sound, you pronounce the short sound, then the long sound...then proceed with the pronunciation of the words.
@welshplus11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@zachhaywood1564 Жыл бұрын
I'm an American who is fiercely proud of my Welsh ancestry, and want to learn for when I go there.
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
Gwych! / That's great!
@alyanahzoe4 ай бұрын
@@welshplus happy april fools day!
@susanab3831 Жыл бұрын
That would be even better if the words were translated
@martinkullberg6718 Жыл бұрын
I went to wales, I did like to read all the exotic words on all the signs like : dim parcio dros nos. I like the welsh word arraf and betws y coed 😁 Also you should look at the language brithenig , it is based on welsh orthographie, info is on the site ill bethisad.
@sledgehog1 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, ô is pronounced exactly like that in Portuguese as well and Northern Welsh "u" is pronounced like our atonal "e"(or Turkish "ı"). Very interesting!
@Nothingisbutwhatisnot_ Жыл бұрын
it sounded similar to Icelandic for some reason especially the double LL and double DD
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
That's right. Both Welsh and Icelandic share those sounds!
@_what._. Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
Croeso! / You're welcome!
@user-mr2yk1sp9g Жыл бұрын
Helo Bisenes 2023
@kuklamaus Жыл бұрын
Please can you make a video explaining when d, b and g are pronounced like 't', 'p' and 'k' 😢
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
Do you mean that Welsh _b_ _d_ _g_ sound more like _p_ _t_ _c_ to you? What is your native language?
@kuklamaus Жыл бұрын
@@welshplus my native language is russian, and sometimes Welsh b, d and g (voiced stops) sound for me exactly like if they were unvoiced - p, t and c. And the problem is that I can't understand in which positions they become unvoiced...
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
@@kuklamaus I thought so. In languages like Russian, French, Spanish etc. the voiced stops are quite strongly voiced and the unvoiced stops are unvoiced (makes sense!). In other languages like Welsh though, the voiced stops are only weakly voiced and the unvoiced stops are unvoiced and also aspirated (have a puff of air or _h_ sound after them). This means the main contrast between voiced and unvoiced stops in Russian is voicing whereas the main contrast between them in Welsh is really aspiration. When a Welsh person says _b d g_ they sound like _п т к_ to a Russian and vice versa! So in order to sound more Welsh, I'd advise practising the aspiration after Welsh _p t c_ in order to distinguish them from _b d g_ .
@kuklamaus Жыл бұрын
@@welshplus thank you so much for your detailed response 🙏
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
@@kuklamaus Croeso / Пожалуйста 😊
@adrianacernochova Жыл бұрын
These videos are so helpful, better than duolingo honestly, I’m wondering why is this channel no longer active?
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
It'd be great to add more content. I have lots and lots of ideas for videos but no time to sit down and make them, sadly.
@Ro994 ай бұрын
@@welshplusI can’t lie I really don’t get the sounds mh, nh, ngh. Is there a video which talks about the unvoiced nasals? I hope you are doing well with whatever you are doing
@welshplus4 ай бұрын
@@Ro99 Good thanks, just too busy teaching people Welsh to have time to make more videos 😄 The aim was to include the unvoiced nasals and other bits in a second pronunciation series but as I say, never had the time. In class, we practise them by first whispering the sound and then trying to add more and more breath (the _h_ bit) as we go. We also note that the nasal mutation, which creates these sounds, occurs most often after either _fy_ "my" or _yn_ "in". When you're pronouncing examples of the nasal mutation then, try and shift the inital letter of the following word over to the _fy_ or _yn_ like this: for "my cat" _fy nghath_ say _fyng hath_ (here _fyng_ rhymes with English "sung") for "in Paris" _ym Mharis_ say _ymm Haris_ (again _ymm_ sounds like English "um") If you think of and pronounce them this way, people find they usually come out right!
@Ro994 ай бұрын
@@welshplus oh wow thank you so much! Hindi has aspirated versions of nearly every consonant and I couldn’t pronounce the voiced+aspirated ones for my life so maybe I’ll try this trick for that too. That is so helpful!
@welshplus4 ай бұрын
@@Ro99 Croeso! / You're welcome!
@adrianacernochova Жыл бұрын
I watched this 3 times and I’m still confused 😂
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
What in particular are you confused about?
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
@@welshplus can you collab with duolingo?
@jonbaker1697 Жыл бұрын
1:43 chyllell. My tongue was dancing, trying to get the right pronunciation :)
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
Ha 😆With enough practice it should start to feel more normal.
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
1:46 lost.mp3
@Sandmello80 Жыл бұрын
Finally!!! It’s all clear to me!! Just moved to Mid Wales last year and trying hard to learn this beautiful yet complicated language! Before I started learning Welsh, it was like a jigsaw puzzle to me! Like a made up language with no vowels 😂 But it makes complete sense now! I’ve found the key to unlock the words in your beautifully presented videos. Thank you. Diolch!
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear. Glad to help. Pob hwyl gyda'r Gymraeg! / All the best with the Welsh!
@amandafournier9255 Жыл бұрын
4:44 i know its a diffrent language BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT IN THE US thats when people raise an eyebrow
@geo2theo Жыл бұрын
What is it for, even cant read, so fast. Annoying music.
@geo2theo Жыл бұрын
Too fast, I want to read and think
@corywilliams9895 Жыл бұрын
God damn I’m proud of my Welsh heritage but damn… I’m from the south, can’t understand a lick of what you say
@Nediablo Жыл бұрын
Now I'm even more confused as there is no 'j' in the Welsh alphabet! Do South Wales use a 'j' and the rest of Wales doesn't? I take it it's colloquial?!
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
I've done a quick search, and the earliest record I can find of _j_ in Welsh is from 1756, probably in north Wales. The _j_ sound has been used in Welsh speech for centuries but only really started being written and included in the alphabet sometime in the 20th century, as far as I'm aware. It's a normal letter of the alphabet these days and is usually used for borrowed words (both colloquial and formal) and also for some native dialect words.
@OboeSteph Жыл бұрын
These are great! So helpful!
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
Great to hear that. Diolch!
@alyanahzoe5 ай бұрын
@@welshplus 😂😂😂
@maryhowland1286 Жыл бұрын
feedback - you don't always leave a gap for us to have a go.
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
Diolch / Thanks for the feedback
@matthewh2966 Жыл бұрын
i’m still now sure how to do the nh, mh, and ngh sounds
@welshplus Жыл бұрын
Yep, we don't cover them in this video because they involve the nasal mutation, which is for learners who are beyond the beginner stage. Basically, to say _mh_ _nh_ _ngh_ you whisper the initial _m_ _n_ _ng_ and add an _h_ sound after. Hopefully that makes sense 😊
@henkkylltal Жыл бұрын
I liked the idea of this video but stopped listening because of the music, sorry.
@Rodegon___ Жыл бұрын
I have for a whole been trying to the pronunciation the name, "Llyd" (Kind of a tongue-twister!)