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@762cat
@762cat 8 күн бұрын
What’s a scotch lock?
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 7 күн бұрын
@@762cat wont let me post a pic so here is a link to them. www.grainger.com/product/4YT77?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:4P7A1P:20501231&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw74e1BhBnEiwAbqOAjILPDd3w89cu9G2B57J0doQL_u4A6DOeUBKQ2wVcrpas6hPnLmPmPBoCeskQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@762cat
@762cat 7 күн бұрын
@@jbarstrailerfab thank you
@dekoryapitts4067
@dekoryapitts4067 Ай бұрын
Thanks
@user-gz6fn2yx9f
@user-gz6fn2yx9f 2 ай бұрын
I must of missed it. Why 4” offset grid? Now you can’t use any tooling from Fireball or buildpro?
@ChallengedCustoms
@ChallengedCustoms 2 ай бұрын
If that's a plasma cutting machine in the back corner and you're a "metal guy", you should have purchased your own stock and made your own table. These are for people who don't own a huge plasma cutter and forced to buy these that end up getting trashed in shipment.
@rckclmbr85
@rckclmbr85 2 ай бұрын
Hey, man - thanks for the honest thoughts on the table. Sorry things turned out as they did. Hope you found a buyer!
@Scratchthejeepguy
@Scratchthejeepguy 2 ай бұрын
It’s been a couple months now, did you end up getting the top flat? I’m planning on having a water jet company cut my holes in 1/2” plate and mounting it to my framed table. I’m wondering how flat I’ll be able to get it. I’m going with 4’x6’ A36 HR steel.
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 2 ай бұрын
I am working on the final video now! But yes, i got it pretty dang close, close enough for most anyone…. Lol
@Jesus-mc2do
@Jesus-mc2do 3 ай бұрын
How much are these little machines going for right now ?? I’m looking to buy one. Any tips on what to look out for ??
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 3 ай бұрын
I sold this one for around 10k and somebody jumped on it within a day. I think 15k is the more normal number. If you can, try to find one that hasnt been abused in a rental fleet!
@Jesus-mc2do
@Jesus-mc2do 3 ай бұрын
@@jbarstrailerfab that’s bout how much they’re going for around here ( SF Bay Area ) and they’re beat to crap. The one you sold was in good condition.
@towtruckaj
@towtruckaj 3 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with the hooks on the chains, Just needs new latches, Those things will need replaced 100 times over before the hook itself is a problem. Should be noted with the derating... Yes it may be a trailer physically built to support 12, 14, 16k etc but tagged at 9900... So yes physically you can haul 14k, but legally you will never ever be allowed to go above the 9900 because of it being derated, so no just because the axles support it the tag being derated means you cannot legally to over the 9900.
@josephmccord4511
@josephmccord4511 3 ай бұрын
Extreme table, that segment type construction looks complicated. Not acceptable at that price.
@NORSKGARDEN
@NORSKGARDEN 3 ай бұрын
Freezing those bushings may help them go in better.
@DonnieDeng
@DonnieDeng 4 ай бұрын
Watched your video and have deep sympathy for what you are going through. High-quality tables are so expensive, and the one you bought before was badly damaged during shipping. As a Chinese agent on the Canadian side, I've seen many customers get screwed by some poor quality factories. In the past few years the quality of things made in China has caught up and they are not expensive. Because of their own production and manufacturing, coupled with the Belt and Road policy support, and I work with several factories quality is okay, than the same high-quality products cheaper than nearly half. If friends you have the need, you can contact me, I do my best to get the maximum benefit for you! I hope to see the wonderful products you create in the video that follows.
@jimcollins9316
@jimcollins9316 4 ай бұрын
It absolutely doesn’t need to totally welded out. Great job!
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@tonio3723
@tonio3723 4 ай бұрын
Nice build. A single-flute or zero-flute countersink will do a better job as there is only one cutting edge. Also try lower RPM to reduce chatter.
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 4 ай бұрын
Ohh good tip, thank you!
@maverel
@maverel 4 ай бұрын
Lots of detail, thank you.
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@smedleypdolittle
@smedleypdolittle 4 ай бұрын
Have you considered, doing some heat shrinking, on the top of your plate? May help with final fit up. Cheers!
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 4 ай бұрын
@@smedleypdolittle i have, but I will probly save that for a last resort… it is actually straightening out really well so far!
@motorheadronnie
@motorheadronnie 5 ай бұрын
A very honest review and you're taking more blame than you should... to your credit though. It's good that Certiflat was willing to replace the table, but I'm not impressed with the "quality". A smaller table would have probably have been okay, but the tolerances are still unacceptable.
@Boileddenim
@Boileddenim 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video. This was very interesting and your shop is awesome!
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@scottfarr2413
@scottfarr2413 5 ай бұрын
maybe emery cloth the metal and possibly add grease or lubricant before pressing bushings in. thank you for the video. have to do change some on a sk650.
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 5 ай бұрын
Good advice!!
@Stufferburg
@Stufferburg 5 ай бұрын
Great review, looking to get that’s same welder. This helped! Subbed
@blaineverhelle4104
@blaineverhelle4104 6 ай бұрын
I've been looking for a fab table but I don't like the looks of this tab things I want it to look flat and shiny. I don't want all these little weld tabs everywhere so I'll probably save up until I can afford a good cast iron or steel forged table
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 6 ай бұрын
Good idea! Ones like the Fireball’s are the ultimate!
@michaelcalu7969
@michaelcalu7969 6 ай бұрын
It was damaged doing shipping. I would have never received it. Or had them send me a new table. Putting it together you have to be patient and make sure that it's flat before you weld it. Even without a flat surface. Again I believe that shippings damaged it. You'll never get it flat. I've been watching these online for a year. A purchase my own 5 by 10 plasmacam table to build these. I'm sorry that your table was damaged in shipping. I hope by now that you got everything worked out. Best regards Michael...
@DoctorRickSanchez
@DoctorRickSanchez 6 ай бұрын
4:54 _Is it legal to get a custom made trailer de-rated?_
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 6 ай бұрын
Yep! Most manufacturers will do it for you! Its big in the hot-shot trucking world to keep combinations under a 26,000 GVWR.
@trevordeemie674
@trevordeemie674 7 ай бұрын
Ypu stated multiple times that you are a Metal Guy... A Metal Guy should know size and weight and his abilities.... Instead of "Not Blaming" the company you should spend the time and make it 100% perfect
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 7 ай бұрын
And that I did! I spent the time to list it for sale and then delivered it to somebody that feels it will be 100% perfect for them and their shop. Then I spent the time to design and build (still in progress) my own fixture table, far heavier duty and far cheaper, that will be 100% perfect for me and my shop.
@petebusch9069
@petebusch9069 9 ай бұрын
Deal killer for me, if they can't get the thing to my shop without ruining it then what is the point?
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 9 ай бұрын
🤷‍♂️
@michaelmoe8656
@michaelmoe8656 9 ай бұрын
It seems to me that the table dogs with the o-ring and threads are meant to be tightened in two steps with the o-ring above the table, the first step is to use the allen to expand the ball clamp below the table, then with the o-ring preventing the dog from dropping into the hole, you tighten the upper portion down to the table with a wrench until it pulls tight to the surface. This would give you a dog that has no play against the table. You can see that the distance from the balls to the o-ring appears similar to the thickness of the top. The o-ring would probably also help prevent the whole thing from rotating while tightening.
@toaster3708
@toaster3708 9 ай бұрын
I just purchased two harbor freight fixture welding tables, the holes are perfect and tight, im suprised you have holes that are too big for that much money. great video thanks for the info
@user-kj7dh4rs5d
@user-kj7dh4rs5d 9 ай бұрын
You left out whether you flipped the cable track bar or not, no continued setup of wiring to the plasma or computer set up.
@mdrydan7929
@mdrydan7929 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips
@dogishappy0
@dogishappy0 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I've been recommended several of these trailer videos lately for some reason and the video was entertaining and informative. One thing other videos go over is where to look for the VIN# to help ensure the trailer isn't stolen. A random grind mark near where a VIN is normally found would be a dead giveaway!
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab 10 ай бұрын
That is a good point, thanks for sharing!!
@phildoleebowitz5335
@phildoleebowitz5335 10 ай бұрын
Why did you accept the delivery?
@eccentricsmithy2746
@eccentricsmithy2746 10 ай бұрын
it has a graphite liner, not Teflon liner.
@jthompson6189
@jthompson6189 11 ай бұрын
Picking up a trailer today, thanks for the things to check out
@robertbutler8004
@robertbutler8004 11 ай бұрын
Surprise surprise surprise you can even buy way better fixture tables from China.Made in America stuff me.
@robertbutler8004
@robertbutler8004 11 ай бұрын
I have never seen a worse fixture table than this one never.And do not blame the company that supplied it you are very generous.
@estear9688
@estear9688 11 ай бұрын
Video, posted over 7 years ago discussing assembly, welding sequences and flipping the table, etc.; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbV3m7Jir8enYJ8.htmlsi=pCFUsGBXgTSpXWP_
@Mikael5732
@Mikael5732 Жыл бұрын
Do a 2 piece. That’s what I would do in my situation as space is limited. From your videos you do have a large work space but it is always nice to be able to move a table when you need to.
@Mikael5732
@Mikael5732 Жыл бұрын
Should never have accepted it from the carrier.
@davehammond9796
@davehammond9796 Жыл бұрын
Rotate your phone for portrait video.
@chrisroberts3963
@chrisroberts3963 Жыл бұрын
Oh jeez, the table got damaged in shipping. You should have sent it back.
@1969LSUFAN
@1969LSUFAN Жыл бұрын
Anything that uses assembled parts with that length will sag without proper support.
@hinds90
@hinds90 Жыл бұрын
So can you run pulse with 0.30, 0.35, or 0.45 solid wire
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@kyrengradney3764
@kyrengradney3764 Жыл бұрын
Hey there J Bar! Had a question about wanting to buy 5th wheel frame for trailer to ultimately build tiny house on top. What questions and things should I look for when talking to seller?
@kyrengradney3764
@kyrengradney3764 Жыл бұрын
used 5th wheel trailer frame*
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
That is a pretty loaded question, honestly. Probably the biggest thing would be inspect it for cracks, mainly up in the “gooseneck” area and where it connects to the lower frame. 5th wheel frames are built super light, borderline flimsy, so building a tiny house might be a task but with enough reinforcing, im sure it can be done. See what size axles it has, you will want at least 6k, 7k and larger would be better. Big thing to remember, RV’s are built light weight as possible, a tiny house is usually built more like a house and can end up WAY heavier…
@kyrengradney3764
@kyrengradney3764 Жыл бұрын
@@jbarstrailerfab Thank you so much for responding so quickly. Would you recommend sending detailed pictures a welder to make sure I don’t overlook certain things. While also seeing if the trailer is actually worth buying?
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
@@kyrengradney3764 yeah thats a good idea!
@rdspeedfab
@rdspeedfab Жыл бұрын
They’re actually pretty easy to get flat. You will need a long straight edge but it’s doable. Assemble it upright and and clamp it with allthread or u bolts like you did. But you absolutely need to weld the tabs on top of the table. Otherwise you have a huge sheet of 1/4 inch with holes in it.
@melgross
@melgross 8 ай бұрын
Every channel who got one of these couldn’t get it flat to the company’s standards. And these standards aren’t the highest in the industry. A major problem is that you need a very flat surface for the panel to lay on to do this properly. A straightedge won’t suffice as the top plate will conform to the flatness of the floor. For smaller tables it’s not too much of a problem, such as a 2 x 3, but as you get larger than about 3 x 4, it does become a serious problem. You should TIG weld all the slots on outside surfaces so you don’t MiG weld lumps you have to grind down. I question why someone would need a table this size in the first place unless they’re building massive structures. I’m sorry so many problems occurred. But honestly folks, assembly needs to be carefully thought out BEFORE you order a product, not after. I bought a 3 x 4 Sigmund table, on sale for $3165 (plus shipping). It’s far better than Certiflat. Not even close, really. A 4 x 8 is $7,000. Since he spent over $6,000, a Sigmund would have been better. It’s a 1/2” hardened tool steel casting RC 60, nitrided surface so it doesn’t rust or collect BBs. It meets aerospace standards as to surface flatness. I have nothing to do with Sigmund other than having bought a table and fixtures. Ok, why they’re made bigger. They’re made bigger because they’re not 5/8”, they’re 16mm. 16mm is the standard. It’s about 2.5 hundredths of an inch bigger than 5/8”. A long time ago, it was 5/8”, then the standard went metric as every standard has done (live with it guys!). 5/8” fixtures do work, but they’re a small amount more wiggly. It’s fine. Just understand that most fixtures these days might be tight with 5/8” holes as everything is now made for 16mm. I don’t recommend making a table with 5/8” holes. As far as getting a table flat goes, your legs matter a lot. You HAVE to flatten the table by adjusting the leg height. What I see here is that the wheel height isn’t adjustable. That’s bad. The Sigmund wheel height is adjustable. And unless you plan to move your table around, don’t buy wheels, buy legs with adjustable pads. Get a long builders level such as a Stabila, the length of the table, which is the flattest, and use that to level your table, which if done properly, will also flatten it. You will have a big problem doing that with this. I guarantee your floor is not flat. Good luck. They do make tables up to 5/8” thickness, if you think this one is heavy.
@will-dd7ou
@will-dd7ou Жыл бұрын
how much did this cost you apart from materials? sorry if you said it in the video I probably missed it. I'm in highschool running a very very small fab shop and no way am I paying 600 bucks for a 2' x 4' table that's only 3/16 thick from certiflat lol, love the table videos!.
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
This 4x10 piece of 1/2” A572 Grade50 plate and the laser cutting cost a little over 2500. But that was the cutting AND the material. He quoted me on plain ole A36 1/2” plate and it was almost 1k cheaper
@will-dd7ou
@will-dd7ou Жыл бұрын
@@jbarstrailerfab they quoted me 1200 for 3/8” 3x4’
@will-dd7ou
@will-dd7ou Жыл бұрын
I guess I’ll just have to stick to a flat top
@viking8781
@viking8781 Жыл бұрын
What did you end up doing about the table? Im buy ing arcflat tables. Theyre small, but modular. Im going to be bokting 4 together. The fireball table is on my wish list, but a bit more than im wanting to spend right now
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
I am building my own table now. Videos are/will be on my channel
@haydendesmarais8982
@haydendesmarais8982 Жыл бұрын
People it is a $6,000 welding table!!! that is a big table, about 4 x 12 maybe? First off it is made of hot rolled steel. Hot rolled steel in more sepeptibal to spatter. When compared to a cast iron table, that cost $20,000. Castiron table are harder to make. This table is cut out of sheet steel on a plasma table, way cheaper. It is still a grate table for the more. think of them like hardwood floors. some times they just need to get refineshed.
@EagleNestFarm
@EagleNestFarm Жыл бұрын
You can buy new pins/bushings from Ditch Witch as well. They are actually pretty reasonably priced. Super curious - What did you end up paying for it?
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
Not into letting the internet know that sorta info but it was quite aways down into 4 figures
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
The ditch witch here in Boise must have screwed me then, the few i bought were NOT well priced, at least in my opinion.
@Sethhaun78
@Sethhaun78 2 ай бұрын
Just payed 9000 for used one from rental store
@unoriginalperson11
@unoriginalperson11 Жыл бұрын
I really like the Texas Metal Works table and accessories better. Also the price and quality better.
@billshafley6048
@billshafley6048 Жыл бұрын
Any chance did they mistakenly send you the "blemish" table instead of new table?
@jbarstrailerfab
@jbarstrailerfab Жыл бұрын
Not as far as i know
@bobrossi1185
@bobrossi1185 Жыл бұрын
well should not have accepted it first of all then the certified would made it right, second think it not so much hole it the thickness of table you comparing 1/4 top to 1/2 laser cut pins clamps have more movement side to side . I would have bought 3 4x4 tops bolted together. not sticking up for them on this at $6000 and not right that just dumb on your part and straddled 2 tables and got a bow and continued to build is just insane you could build on floor leveled it out or built it on your 5/8 inch table and leveled it before you started. you said you don't have machines to flip it but you have Telahandler and an excavator. think you should have walked away from project for a bit. and calmed down and thought things thru. great video even though all problems that freight and you created for yourself 75% could have been avoid from start. 1/4 inch top is hobby table you had thicker and you went 1/2 inch less for $600 could have bought mag drill and cutters and got the template from laser cut guys or cut on on plasma table. and got new5/8 top and done it way better with out the hassle..." like they say school costs money"
@GenghisKhan311
@GenghisKhan311 Жыл бұрын
Put lube on it next time.