ThunderCast #1: Origin Stories
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Need Some HELP With Thunderbird?
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@crzystix1456
@crzystix1456 2 күн бұрын
Very nice thank you!
@deletemadog
@deletemadog 5 күн бұрын
I used to use the "Manually sort folders" add-on to do the job before upgraded to 115. Have been waiting for the solution from Thunderbird. Very happy to find out it's been there already. Thank you very much.
@CyclingSteve
@CyclingSteve 14 күн бұрын
Thanks I had a hard time working out where to add feeds, the feed account thing is far from obvious.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject 9 сағат бұрын
Glad this helped! Admittedly, Thunderbird's RSS functionality hasn't been prioritized recently, but hopefully that can change in the near future. Long live RSS!
@rogersporken
@rogersporken 17 күн бұрын
thanks mate, very helpfull!
@Steve78392
@Steve78392 17 күн бұрын
Technically it is possible, because Thunderbird is based on Gecko (no Chromium)
@soulaesthete8563
@soulaesthete8563 24 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! I came to KZfaq, hoping to find a possible solution on how to rearrange the order of my email accounts without having to delete them first. Thunderbird has always been my email client because it's the best and has only gotten better!
@beautifullondon
@beautifullondon 24 күн бұрын
What are you on about mate???
@sayemoid
@sayemoid 24 күн бұрын
Migration: How about exporting to a file from k9 and re-importing in thunderbird without a mozilla account? This should be an option. Shouldn't force users to have a Mozilla account.
@ukrolelo
@ukrolelo 25 күн бұрын
Selfhosted web mail client would be awesome❤
@golokatai
@golokatai Ай бұрын
Sadly there is no more "feed message body as"-option in current Thunderbird 115.10.1 Someone any idea how to play video in an up to date Version of Thunderbird?
@thathappyrat
@thathappyrat Ай бұрын
I can connect to an Exchange server with Apple Mail.
@branjosnow6244
@branjosnow6244 Ай бұрын
Whatever they've done over the last few updates has just caused me to uninstall it. I'm just sick of it hanging the system. It's garbage now.
@alecaddd
@alecaddd Ай бұрын
It would be more helpful if you could report the bug and help us fix the issue you're experiencing. We're gaining users every month and our 20 million active users are using it without their system hanging.
@branjosnow6244
@branjosnow6244 Ай бұрын
@@alecaddd last update, starts normal then immediately hangs, takes ages to download emails, (500mb connection) select any email to read, hangs for about 5 seconds per click before the email can be viewed. Didn't do that a few weeks ago. Nothing has changed in my system, no OS updates. And it's not my job to beta test things for ya. I use what works and discard what doesn't. Using Proton now.
@alecaddd
@alecaddd Ай бұрын
@@branjosnow6244 Having this report in bugzilla with some steps to reproduce would be much more helpful than a rant in a youtube comment. We're a small group of developers maintaining and shipping a free and open source application for million of users, and regardless if you like it or not, we need the help of those users in telling us when things are broken.
@Meche697
@Meche697 Ай бұрын
Bring Firebird changes. More stable than Thunderbird
@-EC002-
@-EC002- Ай бұрын
Still working in 115.10.1 (64-bit) on Linux.
@purpasmart_4831
@purpasmart_4831 Ай бұрын
Switch to Golang.
@Heater-v1.0.0
@Heater-v1.0.0 Ай бұрын
Why would they want to make a retrograde step?
@purpasmart_4831
@purpasmart_4831 Ай бұрын
@@Heater-v1.0.0 Go has better syntax, faster compile times, and overall a faster production time to get a project done.
@Heater-v1.0.0
@Heater-v1.0.0 Ай бұрын
@@purpasmart_4831 The beauty of syntax is in the eye of the beholder. Certainly compilation is slower in Rust. But typically one is not compiling ferociously all day, one writes code, the IDE highlights errors immediately as you type, an occasional "cargo check" ensures the thing builds. I don't find total time to production, from idea to designed, written, reviewed, tested, debugged, rolled out to be noticeably slower. Meanwhile one gains all the advantages Rust offers.
@alecaddd
@alecaddd Ай бұрын
@@purpasmart_4831 Every Rust developer can say the same thing about Go. It's all a matter of prospective and we chose what makes sense for us and what is logical for our expertise.
@bluesquare23
@bluesquare23 Ай бұрын
There is a category of people in the world known as _uber nerds_ . You are among this group.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
Thank you... we think? :D
@user-vm9mu5ul1h
@user-vm9mu5ul1h Ай бұрын
Thunderbird has turned into an abysmal performance hog, lately. Why? Do we really need all this Rust?
@szaszm_
@szaszm_ Ай бұрын
If anything, replacing poorly maintained code with new Rust modules should help the team clean up the old code that they don't really understand, and that's probably adding a lot of the overhead and turning Thunderbird into a performance hog. I'm not involved with Thunderbird, but I'm doing C++ development, and learning Rust. Going with a stricter language can help future maintenance: if a change doesn't fit well into the original vision, it will more likely raise a compiler error, instead of silently working in a suboptimal way. C++ is fairly strict, but Rust is even stricter. Rust is also "zero overhead", so there is no inherent runtime cost of using the language, over hand-writing assembly, like C and C++, but unlike Java, C#, Python, JS, Go, etc.
@zacbackas
@zacbackas Ай бұрын
lmao what a funny thing to say
@NabekenProG87
@NabekenProG87 Ай бұрын
Lately? As I understand this is gated behind a feature flag, so these changes could not have influenced your experience. I could only think of Rust code inside Firefox (on which Thunderbird is build) having any impact. But why do you think Rust code is slow? If anything C/C++/Rust are very close in performance, C beeing the fastest, but Firefox is mostly written in C++. The choice of language having any impact doesn't make any sense here
@Heater-v1.0.0
@Heater-v1.0.0 Ай бұрын
You say that as if Rust would introduce a performance penalty. Which is not the case, Rust produces code that flys as well as C++. I think the reasons for adopting Rust were well spelled out in the discussion.
@alecaddd
@alecaddd Ай бұрын
Funny you say this since the version of Thunderbird you're running is not shipping Rust as everything is behind a flag and only available since version 126 alpha.
@StiekemeHenk
@StiekemeHenk Ай бұрын
The chapters are a great addition to this long format. Thanks!
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
Glad you think so! I thought about chopping this up into segments like we did with the last Office Hours, but ultimately this was such a focused and technical conversation that it all belonged together.
@StiekemeHenk
@StiekemeHenk Ай бұрын
I really believe thunderbird is the very best mail client. But it's still very far from perfect. Some basic things like silent startup and staying in the tray should be built-in for example.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
Good feedback, thanks! Want to let you know we're actively working on Linux system tray support beginning next month.
@StiekemeHenk
@StiekemeHenk Ай бұрын
@@thunderbirdproject great work ❤️ thanks
@BergenPointSound
@BergenPointSound Ай бұрын
Awesome!
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
This companion blog has some links and resources you might appreciate: blog.thunderbird.net/2024/04/adventures-in-rust-bringing-exchange-support-to-thunderbird/
@_MDMUBTASINMONDOLNILOY
@_MDMUBTASINMONDOLNILOY Ай бұрын
please release a basic tutorial on "how to make Thunderbird extensions" and publish it for community use.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
That's a great idea! Can't promise it will happen soon, but I'll speak to our Add-ons guru John about it. ~Jason
@markglover5217
@markglover5217 Ай бұрын
Ah... is this now broken? I've followed the video instructions exactly and the Firefox Get RSS Feed URL extension reports 'No feed found'.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
It's difficult for us to speak to the state of a Firefox extension, but I'm sorry if it's no longer working. Can you give me some more detail? Which website are you trying to pull RSS from?
@markglover5217
@markglover5217 Ай бұрын
@@thunderbirdproject I'm trying to follow the example in the video. I navigated to www.youtube.com/@thunderbirdproject/featured and got that 'No feed found' result. However, on closer examination of your video, you are using a different URL. Am I using the wrong URL?
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
@@markglover5217 Just checked and the RSS feed definitely still exists. I added it to Thunderbird just now and got expected content results. We DID change our channel ID several months ago, and that may have affected URLs. Here is the feed I successfully used, which was discovered by the Awesome RSS add-on for Firefox: kzfaq.infovideos.xml?channel_id=UCuMTCmnwZPiXXVIy_TW6Bnw
@markglover5217
@markglover5217 Ай бұрын
@@thunderbirdproject OK, it looks like adding the Awesome RSS add-on for Firefox was the missing ingredient. After adding that, Get RSS Feed URL extension works! The next challenge is the 'Double-click and open in new tab' at 3:50. That doesn't work for me (TB 115.3.1), and the 'App Menu' is no longer where the video shows it to be. This would seem to have nothing to do with the RSS Feed feature, and is more to do with my inability to keep up with the constantly changing nature of the TB UI...
@Z4KIUS
@Z4KIUS Ай бұрын
running *in the same window*, unlike SeaMonkey, would be great, but in that case I'd also love to see a lot of improvements to the RSS reader to just move to that one on the other hand the persistent nature of email client and less frequent updates make it pretty reasonable to stay separated
@xmcorporation
@xmcorporation Ай бұрын
The day EXCHANGE support will be available I will kick MS Outlook out of all my clients!
@xmcorporation
@xmcorporation Ай бұрын
So simple and yet so much needed. Thank for being the best email client!
@fhisg
@fhisg Ай бұрын
Hhhmmm, I was wondering why you are starting with supporting email rather than calendar? Don't all Exchange installations support IMAP? I've been using TB to access my Exchange email over IMAP for some 15y. What extra features can I expect if I use the native EWS integration?
@schizofren_ia
@schizofren_ia Ай бұрын
DONT CARE IM A MUTT FIEND
@maureencameron5234
@maureencameron5234 Ай бұрын
*Promosm* 🏃
@LordHasenpfeffer
@LordHasenpfeffer Ай бұрын
I am perfectly happy with Thunderbird as a stand-alone client application for all my Linux desktops. I still use Firefox but no longer as my primary browser. Thunderbird, however, has been my sole email client since its inception. Webmail has never been a pleasant experience for me. Thunderbird defines the standard.
@QEDAGI
@QEDAGI Ай бұрын
Who knew that RSS would feel so abandoned that we'd be celebrating its inclusion in Thunderbird?!
@joshualeesherman
@joshualeesherman Ай бұрын
Isn’t web based email kind of the opposite of the core of Thunderbird?
@enoughjainil
@enoughjainil Ай бұрын
What about apple users 😔
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject Ай бұрын
We're planning an iOS version for next year, but that needs to be developed from scratch. Choosing Android first gave us a clearer, faster path to release.
@timheymans3168
@timheymans3168 Ай бұрын
Would definitely be a big plus to use Thunderbird in your browser! Even despite the slower performance... By default I have a browser window open I call "Home" with my gmail and 5 to 10 other tabs that are important things I need to keep an eye on. This is my main reason NOT to use a desktop email client: because it breaks my workflow. ➝ cannot see my email together with 6 or 7 other open tabs. 🤔 If we could have Thunderbird in our browser of choice - just, as a webpage - that would be amazing. 🙏
@user-zz7zz4sy8u
@user-zz7zz4sy8u 2 ай бұрын
Thunderbird k-9 mail they are the same, I can use Thunderbird on PC and K-9 Mail on Android and it works the same.
@Meche697
@Meche697 2 ай бұрын
I cannot SEND email from either TBird, on my computer, or K9, from my phone. Looking elsewhere....
@shikamaru6333
@shikamaru6333 2 ай бұрын
Not as web mail, but as part of Firefox
@joelee24
@joelee24 2 ай бұрын
I used K9 a long time ago, I found it too complicated for mobile devices and stopped using it after a short time, I then changed to Aqua Mail and I paid for it. Aqua Mail is almost perfect for me, but it changed to subscription and I need to pay again, so I quit and 'go back' to K9. As far as I know K9 is based on TB, so they should work the same, but in reality they are 2 different things. They differ at least on one thing that I complain about the most, the 'auto clean trash on exit' does not exist on K9, I don't know the reason for that. Besides, I can’t transfer my settings from TB to K9, which is also troubling me.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject 2 ай бұрын
K-9 Mail is not based on Thunderbird. We acquired K-9 Mail (and hired its maintainer full-time), and are working diligently toward bringing some of the features of Thunderbird to K-9 Mail. This includes things like the account autodiscovery tool, and Mozilla Sync. Sync WILL enable you to keep your accounts in sync between K-9 Mail and Thunderbird, and will make it much easier to set up. But, please don't expect ALL the features of Thunderbird on Desktop to be on the mobile app. By their very nature, mobile apps need to be streamlined and simplified.
@joelee24
@joelee24 2 ай бұрын
@@thunderbirdproject Thanks for the clarification. Whenever I search for ‘Thunderbird for Android’ K9 will pop up, to give me the impression K9 was a TB clone. I know they are different things from the start, and up to today I still don’t see they are very similar. The good thing is, the import settings feature made setting up a new device very easy, until recently TB was not as easy to do. Just a final note, I still hope the ‘auto clean trash on exit’ feature will be implemented on K9. I searched and found just recently, that auto clean feature was rejected by some users, they want to clean the trash only when they want to, but giving back the control to users to have it auto or manual clean is the best. Btw I am already a forum member in case you ask.
@dbenzhuser
@dbenzhuser 2 ай бұрын
The question then becomes: Is there any, however distant, plan to move away from XUL?
@peterehlert9220
@peterehlert9220 2 ай бұрын
I want a cleaner tbird. More efficient filing, not the huge bulk of more than 10 gb I now have. Local storage, zero web. Nobody's talking about fixing what exists today
@stefanmaas3026
@stefanmaas3026 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, very helpful. 💐 A video on how to archive e-mails in local folders chronologically, i. e. per year and account would be very interesting.
@JeffinBville
@JeffinBville 2 ай бұрын
Why does everyone want to be Google? We use TB because it's NOT.
@user-gx3st2th8q
@user-gx3st2th8q 2 ай бұрын
that'd be helpful to remind myself what i sent in a conversation
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject 2 ай бұрын
Indeed! And hopefully we'll be able to implement this soon.
@utube6629
@utube6629 2 ай бұрын
Will you do a tut on finding the profile folder in mac and transferring info to new computer
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that is in the works! In the meantime, maybe this help article will be useful: support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/moving-thunderbird-data-to-a-new-computer
@realraven2000
@realraven2000 2 ай бұрын
1:38 thats what copy sent to current is for.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject 2 ай бұрын
Here's the thing though: it's important for important features like this to be native and work out-of-box. The primary reason is that sometimes community developers can no longer maintain an add-on.
@realraven2000
@realraven2000 2 ай бұрын
Support for preview header in cards view would be nice.
@IntenseWebs
@IntenseWebs 2 ай бұрын
I despise Conversation View.
@JimLeonard
@JimLeonard 2 ай бұрын
Whatever you implement, please make it optional. I prefer the existing Thunderbird threaded view, and would not want to see my own messages as part of a thread.
@thunderbirdproject
@thunderbirdproject 2 ай бұрын
NOTE: The Conversations Add-on, maintained by Mark Banner, is alive and well. Mark says "There's a few rough edges in the latest versions (mainly that encrypted messages don't work - also due to Thunderbird's technical debt). I plan to support it the best I can at least until there's equivalent functionality in Thunderbird itself." addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/
@placeholder3853
@placeholder3853 2 ай бұрын
I love thunderbird! Can't wait for the release of the android app!