For the price and the nice "professional" look, it seems worth it even if it did have some issues. Nice follow-up.
@MrNiceguy25911 күн бұрын
@arevee9429 Thank you. I don't disagree. We do still like the range. We love the looks, and it's working perfectly again after a pretty simple fix. I was just a bit frustrated that it "broke" after only 4.5 years. But by today's standards with major appliances, I guess that's not terrible.
@hardymichael53313 күн бұрын
Great idea EcoFlow delta pro 3 and EcoFlow delta pro 3 extra 2 battery 12,000 KWH 👍😎
@saulvelez628917 күн бұрын
excellent input ! seems to me that a company that's asking consumers to buy their product at the price they are asking would have prepared for the eventual necessity to replace parts and make them compatible . Again nice video with lots of great info . I was thinking of purchasing this very stove , now Im not feeling this companies commitment to quality .
@Renatiux8419 күн бұрын
How is it holding up?
@MrNiceguy25919 күн бұрын
@Renatiux84 really well...no issues.
@TheHip_Ай бұрын
Is there a recommended brush for the cast stainless grills? I read somewhere that brass bristles are preferred. Any recommendations? I just assembled my phantom last night.
@MrNiceguy259Ай бұрын
I only ever use a Grill Rescue now. My wife and I both work in healthcare, and the stories of perforated esophagus, stomachs, and bowels from grill brush bristles aren't just marketing hype. They honestly do happen. Grill Rescues aren't cheap, but they're a lot cheaper than emergency surgery!
@shelley1312 ай бұрын
May I ask why you prefer to use a lead acid battery instead of a lithium battery? You could literally buy a 200 amp hour battery for under $500 and it would extend your time for over one week easily. You could literally go on a trip around the world if you got a 300ah or larger battery. I do like your system set up . I don't have a sump pump but am waiting for the manual transfer which you displayed. We have power failures all the time here in Texas and I am going to use it with a 5KW server rack battery and a 3KW inverter / charger from EG4. I'm building it to be portable using a hand truck or dolly as some people call it. You have a beautiful basement.
@MrNiceguy2592 ай бұрын
The Basement Watchdog system comes with the lead acid battery. That system is around 10 years old but still working great. The addition of the Ecoflow just gives me extended run time on the primary pump.
@pureradio56552 ай бұрын
Just some quick things to check here, make sure that the inverter on the Eco Flow is set to never turn itself off under no load. This way it wont turn off after a period of no use. Also might be worth for the health of the battery (if you’re thinking of keeping it for 10years+) to set the max charge to 80-90%. And to cycle it down to 30% once a month or so. Edit: In UPS mode the inverter timeout might in inapplicable.
@MrNiceguy2592 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I do have the unit set to never time-out, and I have charge/discharge limits set at 95% and 2%. I probably should allow it to cycle down more often.
@Sudovest810 күн бұрын
@@MrNiceguy259how do you program it to cycle down and the other suggestions above?
@gbbari44182 ай бұрын
I bought a Viking 30" dual fuel in December 2016. Worst purchase I ever made. It has rarely ever worked properly. Temperature of oven has always been unstable and unpredictable. While under warranty we had it serviced twice and thought it was fixed but the problems came back. Viking HQ had no constructive input. Now the regular mode oven temp varies by as much as 100 degrees and the convection mode while mostly stable (not always) takes 15 to 30 mins to recover after a door opening. Also only 2 burners will light despite service being called twice. We are done with Viking - they Just. Don't. Care.. Your easy fixes for the Zline are impressive and if a broken oven temp light and burnt spade connector are the only real functional issues - I'd say you are WAYYY out ahead. I'm about to buy a Zline RA30 model withe the brass burners and an extended warranty. It has to be better than the Viking trash I wasted my money on 7 years ago.
@MrNiceguy2592 ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of why I hate shopping for any major appliance. It seems like no matter the brand, or how much you pay, there will be great reviews and bad reviews. It just feels like gambling now. I hope you have good luck with your Zline!
@gbbari44182 ай бұрын
@@MrNiceguy259- I agree 100%. Consumer grade and many pro-grade major appliances today are almost all made using cheaply produced electronic components (mostly Asian-sourced). Many also use cheaply made structural and functional components. The entire market is horrible compared to 40 years ago and earlier. Manufacturers are not committing the time and slightly higher cost in demanding & testing for minimum tolerance specified electrical and functional physical components (such as "Mil Spec" quality that the military procurement always demanded). "Style" looks great and that's what sells most unaware consumers, but the quality after the sale is what creates loyal brand customers. Something that seems to have been lost.
@frankbeckloff535019 сағат бұрын
No, it doesn't HAVE TO BE better. Might just be more of the same. Be careful.
@erikstenquist75772 ай бұрын
Hello from Sweden! I have the exact same setup except my Napoleon is stainless version. I also bought stainless grillgrates and flavorizerbars to the Weber last year and took it to my summerhouse and I think it will last ten more years easily. The Prestige 500 is superior but was also much more expensive.
@w.miller72822 ай бұрын
I’m glad I bought a wolf, zline is cheap junk, distorted burners on a pro style range is unacceptable.
@MrNiceguy2592 ай бұрын
Pro "style" range. It also costs half what a Wolf costs, and I've seen reports of problems with Wolf too. But yeah, you get what you pay for. It looks impressive, but it's our last Zline.
@w.miller72822 ай бұрын
@@MrNiceguy259 wolf may have a few issues here and there as nothing is perfect, but the service department is impeccable. I haven’t had any issues yet.
@Wattsonthegrill2 ай бұрын
Cheers. New subscriber here from BRANTFORD ONTARIO. That Napoleon was made in Barrie Ontario.
@ericmitchell40673 ай бұрын
The generation of Weber before you had tube/small burner that ran between the burners to keep them lit; you only had to light the main. It was still the same crappy battery-in-a-button system and I replaced it 3-4 times. The bigger issue was that the burners were staged front to back instead of left to right. Good luck with the logistics of trying to keep hot-warm-cool zones and moving things around effectively. Engineering ass-hattery at it's best. Overall, Weber has seemingly cheapened things over the years, but at least they went back to left-to-right burner orientation. I've got just about 18 years on mine I give Weber credit for that - but I managed to burn a hole in my firebox (my fault and lucky it wasn't worse...). I can't revive it this time by just replacing the guts so I'm looking hard at Napolean.
@MrPhoenix18002 ай бұрын
My spirit has the left to right burners. I’ve had mine since 2014 only problem has been burners went out Weber sent me new ones free and gas line went bad easy fix. My igniters have worked for 10 plus years same ones that came with the grill. Stupid that Weber got away from that left to right burner design cause I really like mine.
@johnnyreb80303 ай бұрын
Mine is JUNK, They are sending another
@JC-dc9oz3 ай бұрын
people have said that those cast stainless grates are a pain to maintain . If they were superior to the other grates, they would have included them in the prestige pro series.
@MrNiceguy2593 ай бұрын
Not sure why anyone would say they're hard to maintain. They don't rust, and a standard cleaning works like any other grate. I've actually found them to be easier to clean. The main advantage to them is the increased weight and thickness (mass) that holds more heat. I like them a lot.
@gregevans63283 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video!!! I just hooked up my Ecoflow Delta 2 (with the P04 battery good for a stated 3000 full recharges) as my primary backup and it’s working flawlessly!
@MrNiceguy2593 ай бұрын
I posted a new update video (now at 4.5 years of ownership). It describes a repair that I had to do, and installing a few new replacement parts. Check it out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJuAoJmqxNLHYoE.htmlsi=xOEu5kmGVChtFokl
@mlue14663 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! I'm in the process of adding a backup to my sump pump, I was looking at the Liberty 441 backup sump pump system with the Watchdog battery that the local Plumpers recommend. Adding this Ecoflow River power station would definitely increase the capacity overall and allow me to use the eco-flow sometimes to go camping or to power other projects
@joeyhicks77383 ай бұрын
Promo>SM
@stevefiorey6303 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Had the same exact model Weber - hated it the entire time I owned it. The Charbroil Infrared I had prior blew the Weber out of the park. But I'm between the Napoleon Phantom and the Napoleon Prestige Pro for a replacement. Pro is more $$$ obviously. Curious how you are liking the Phantom so far and how it holds up. I use my grill 4-5 times a week, all year long (live in Central Fl) so durability is a huge factor for me. Would love a follow up. Thanks again.
@krehbein2 ай бұрын
Since you use it so much and live in Florida getting the more expensive pro may be better in the long run. Check the specs like how they’re built, grate thickness, etc. Either way, when I cook on my prestige pro I can tell it’s in a new category from my old genesis.
@Robert-wm8wr3 ай бұрын
i've been trying to decide between these two model grills. on paper both are great grills that are similarly priced, but the napoleon has more features. BUT on a grilling test video i saw, the napoleon did cook evenly. 8 burgers on it spread across its grill, and the front ones didn't cook as fast as the back, and didn't get the sear marks (cause underdone) that the back ones did. all other 4 grills cooked evenly. Windy day was presented as a possible explanation, but its made me concerned, cause that would be a deal breaker for me. What is your (and anyone else's) experience with a napoleon prestige cooking evenly? i've also read that their customer service isn't good, so the lifetime warranty is meaningless, according to some. can anyone comment on their experiences please? Great comparison video! Thanks in advance for any help you (and anyone else) can offer.
@krehbein2 ай бұрын
I went from the genesis to the prestige pro. I think any grill will be a little hotter in the back. But the napoleon is definitely better than the genesis. I think of the front/back as two zones…hot and not as bad. You can rotate food as needed.
@craig90694 ай бұрын
Sweet looking grill! How much did you pay for this? Great in-depth video! Can't wait for the next review on this grill.
@MrNiceguy2594 ай бұрын
They're currently running about $1,999, but I got mine on a good sale for around $1,700. Just used it again today...still loving it!
@craig90693 ай бұрын
I'm really torn between these models, how's those grates holding up on the napoleon?
@MrNiceguy2593 ай бұрын
@craig9069 The grates on the Napoleon are awesome. They obviously don't stay shiny and silver once you start using the grill, but they cook really well and aren't hard to clean. That heavy cast stainless will probably last forever
@salvatorecasale71074 ай бұрын
Weber not backing their product for me, so will be going to Napolean. Reached out to Weber, they don't care.
@TFTO19733 ай бұрын
Same here. Been having issues with their regulator on my Genesis. They keep failing after within a year. On my 3rd one. They refuse to cover it, so it's an out of pocket expense. Looking at Napoleon's now.
@7583daniel4 ай бұрын
Could you please make a video with details on how to set up and what equipment you use for automatic on
@ChrisTheGr8est4 ай бұрын
get a cable to go from your battery to ecoflow and your doubled.
@Hmw2024 ай бұрын
Sorry, worse stove ever. When oven was on, it sounded like a jet engine is warming up to take off. It was so loud, we couldn’t hear each other talk when oven was on. Both oven lights broke and we were told it would take a year to get replacement bulbs. Then the blue light that indicates oven is up to temperature broke. Again we were told part is back ordered. We finally bought a Monogram to replace it. Oh well, lesson learned. We got what we paid for.
@MrNiceguy2594 ай бұрын
Wow...that stinks. It definitely sounds like you got a bad one. I made that video over 3 years ago, so we've had ours for over 4 years, and other than the small issues I mentioned in the video, it's still going strong.
@Ken2ndAmendment4 ай бұрын
You could also buy additional deep cycle batteries and run them in parallel and save yourself a ton of dough and a longer time off grid with LifePo4 batteries.
@Sudovest810 күн бұрын
Aren’t marine batteries like $300 each though? This is $450 on sale
@RandomTechWZ4 ай бұрын
Thats a good solution to keep the main pump alive for a little while longer. Ive ran our old main pump (1/3 hp) on a 1500va APC ups in the past. It did the job for the few times the pump had to cycle.
@simon3594 ай бұрын
I bought two of the Anker 767’s, as they have 2 kW apiece and UPS back up! you can also add 1000 W of solar to keep them charged up!
@CharlesStewartJr4 ай бұрын
Great idea! I'm considering doing this for my mom because anytime the power goes out the sump pump becomes an immediate stress point for her.
@AmericanNationalist8524 ай бұрын
Any chance you could do a follow-up video?
@stefanljung83284 ай бұрын
Thanks for this info ;)
@Mark-hb5zf4 ай бұрын
One other thing you can do is to look into a 'Ting' which is offered free thru some insurance companies (in my case, State Farm). It monitors your 120V, looking for indicators that could be a fire hazard (arc's), brownouts, quick dips in the voltage, etc. But a side benefit is that it will send you a text message that your power is out (since it's not sending data back to the mother ship) and also when it is restored. So if you are on travel , shopping, etc, you will know your house is powered or not. I have a whole house Generac and incredibly, it was even able to realize the generator turned on during an outage. I was seriously impressed (and I'm an electrical engineer). How well will it spot micro arcs, etc...I can't vouch for that.
@MrNiceguy2594 ай бұрын
That's interesting...thanks for the info! I'm not familiar with a "ting," but I might look into them. I kind of already get a notice because I have various "smart" devices (cameras, thermostat..etc.) that text and email me when the power goes out because I lose wifi.
@Mark-hb5zf4 ай бұрын
@@MrNiceguy259 I also use a Zooz ZEN15 (Z-wave via SmartThings hub) to monitor the sump pump current, how long it runs, and how often it runs. The ZEN15 is a heavy duty device that's meant to handle high current loads like a sump motor. You can set it in SmartThings to never shut off (i.e. the output is always on). I was leery of using anything that might break, but it seems to be the 'go to' device that people use to monitor a sump pump. By monitoring sump pump current, I'll be able to spot any issues before they become serious (hopefully!).
@jamiecole72614 ай бұрын
Was wondering why not just get another battery for the watchdog system and run parallel ? might of been cheaper and possibly more watt hours .
@MrNiceguy2594 ай бұрын
Great question. I thought about doing that. The main reason I wanted to go this route is because this way, my primary pump will still run first. The 12v backup pump seems to work ok, but it rarely has to run, so I don't trust it as much. Plus, it's not as strong as the primary. I got a good deal on the Ecoflow at $429, so I felt it was worth it to keep the primary pump running during an outage.
@RandomTechWZ4 ай бұрын
I tried that with my Ridgid RBBS sump system and the charger didn't like the additional battery, maybe because it was an AGM and the other was a SLA. It never seemed to go to a trickle charge (wall transformer was very warm).
@marcinnojszewski1474 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks 👍
@dank92886394 ай бұрын
people getting teary-eyed over a grill being over 1k is hilarious. If you want a lifetime grill, it's gonna cost you around 5k
@WB-iz6ot4 ай бұрын
I bought mine in 2022 and they were very limited at that time still. I didn't build it until a year later in 2023. One thing I can't remember if I even seasoned the grates or even have to. I do spray oil on them. I might this year take them out and scrubbed them done and start again. Finally the snow has melted here in Ct and it's time to fire it up. The other issue I had with it is I'm connected to my gas meter and I might have a leak within it but having a hard time finding it with water and soap bubbles...lol Now saying all that I tried cooking wings and came out great. I tried cooking wings again with the rotisserie and the Napoleon basket but I failed. The spit kept falling out during the cooking but that was my fault. There's a little round piece that I forgot to install on it so the spit as it turns doesn't fall out of the hole. The infrared part is awesome but very small. I tried steaks several times but only can do 2 at a time. It's difficult to keep Turning them. As the fats melt down I'm concerned about the life of it. Over all I think I only used it about 10 times and hoping to use it more this year. I also have a Broil King pellet and a Weber charcoal grill so its hard to decide at times which one to use because honestly sometimes my freaking air fryer is the fastest cooking option I have...haha Now saying all that ill keep watching for more videos if you post them. Also most important at least for me buy a cover for it. The grill is so pretty but gets dirty real quick and can only clean it with soap and water.
@willvega83965 ай бұрын
I have to say I've seen many videos about these grills in the past week, and you have caught my attention with how you explained why you like this new grill. I look forward to the next review after using it.
@MrNiceguy2595 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad you found the video helpful. It really is a great grill. I've been using it a lot this winter.
@joeclayton10125 ай бұрын
Napoleonrules 3:57
@teddys71305 ай бұрын
Great video! I know what my new gas grill is gonna be! Love the stainless cast iron & matte finish.
@antonyfrores74906 ай бұрын
Good morning, excuse me, God bless you, I would like to know what gauge of cable you use for 220v.
@MrNiceguy2596 ай бұрын
Hi Antony. Our 220v line was already there from the previous stove, so I wouldn't be able to answer that. We had a new gas line run by a certified contractor.
@nolefanx076 ай бұрын
I’ve owned the Weber summit grill station for a long time and the cabinet doors are just terrible. The brackets broke and the doors now sit on my deck . I wish they were better made cabinets . Weather sealed too. I hate all the dirt and mess that gets into it after a storm . Disappointed. Looking for a new grill now and thinking of trying a new company .
@johnniehaus31666 ай бұрын
A new grill versus a ten year old is like comparing apples to oranges. Not a fair comparison. Both have their pros and cons. I like Napoleon's burner system and grates but the high price is hard to justify. Have owned Weber products for years and their customer service is second to none. It's all a matter of preference and price.
@MrNiceguy2596 ай бұрын
No doubt. It was more of a feature comparison rather than a competition. That being said, if you look at comparable (current) models from each brand, Napoleon isn't really priced higher. Can't go wrong with either brand. Happy grilling.
@nick343777 ай бұрын
Can we get an update video dads thinking of buying it
@MrNiceguy2597 ай бұрын
I doubt I'll be posting an update until spring, but I can tell you that the grill is fantastic. I've used it at least 20 times so far, and there really isn't anything negative to say about it. Everything and cooks works great.
@gieselman7 ай бұрын
Great info, thank you. The scratch sensitive front and cleaning is a bummer. No buenno.
@MartaFigueroa-qz7wp7 ай бұрын
I so regret purchasing this Z-line RA30. I purchased this in early 2019. Last night the oven started making a strange noise and I opened the door. Oven appeared to have caught fire not sure. A strange grey, foggy odorless smoke came out of the oven after Inshut it iff and opened the door. I was cooking meatloaf. This frightened me. I called zline on three numbers and finally a sweet person in a different department gave my info to customer service. Customer service does not pick up and has not yet called me back. Just know it looks nice but the enamel top stains if you spill any food on it. The oven rack sliders come off the tracks and when you cook, the knobs get hot. Quality is lacking but again, it looks nice in the kitchen's . After the smoke, I noticed a film on the glass door. Just know that the quality is not like the other brands but the appearance is very nice. 2000 down tje drain after four years I want a partial refund to use toward a purchase of the more expensive reputable brand. If you are not a cook and you like the nice look for less$$ then buy it. I hope I hear from Customer Service as promised, but not holding my breath. So ,so disappointed because I think any oven should last longer than four years!! Especially at this price!!!
@MartaFigueroa-qz7wp7 ай бұрын
Maybe Customer Service will see this and respond?!!!!
@conditionsunknown93848 ай бұрын
awesome video !! I also have the Phantom Prestige and I LOVE IT !!!
@MrNiceguy2598 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I'm really enjoying mine!
@chocopong988 ай бұрын
dude your weber looks fantastic for 10 years
@MrNiceguy2598 ай бұрын
Thanks. I always kept it covered, and I replaced the knobs a few months before shooting the video. Weber grills hold up nice with reasonable care. I sold it a few days after that because I didn't need both grills.
@Isovapor9 ай бұрын
I have the Napoleon grill. I replaced the standard stainless steel grates on the Napoleon with cast iron grates. I could never get the sear marks I was used to getting on the Weber it replaced. Other than that, I love the Napoleon. Cheers!!
@dank92886394 ай бұрын
something is up then, especially bc the napoleon has more btu
@krehbein2 ай бұрын
How many burners did you have on? With my napoleon if only use 2 burners it’s harder to get a good sear. With 3 much better. The additional Btu’s help the whole thing heat up more.
@DoritosResidue9 ай бұрын
Man I would love that Napoleon its a beautiful grill. Its Like a classic car. I have a few Webers none have done me wrong.
@MrNiceguy2599 ай бұрын
Weber makes excellent grills...no doubt! I was just ready to try something else, and this new Phantom series from Napoleon caught my eye. I've used it maybe 6 times so far, and I'm very impressed.
@DoritosResidue9 ай бұрын
@@MrNiceguy259 yeah Napoleon definitely caught my eye. The Weber I just bought I got for lless than half the price of MSRP . Napoleon will definitely be my next. Everything your Napoleon grill is so unique