I don't see the follow up video on the freestyle Superlace hubs?
@atrainsКүн бұрын
@@ChrisWong13 working on it but it’s a lot of research and very time consuming. It is very possible that when the video releases it will be even more controversial than the FS stamp video. Stay tuned
@ChrisWong13Күн бұрын
@@atrains I bet! Looking forward to it! 👍
@chrismarafino94814 күн бұрын
keep trying, eventually you'll get a 360.
@atrains4 күн бұрын
@@chrismarafino9481 lol….thats my son, he doesn’t even ride his bikes anymore. He has moved onto “different” things now. More expensive things.
@Officialmryuck5 күн бұрын
Where did you buy these from????
@jasonyambor865315 күн бұрын
Thank you that was very informative
@j0hnnykn0xv1lle15 күн бұрын
Not trying to pick at your install, but isn't it normal to lube the spindle with some philwood grease or the like?
@atrains15 күн бұрын
@@j0hnnykn0xv1lle not required at all. The spindle doesn’t touch the bearings at all.
@j0hnnykn0xv1lle10 күн бұрын
@@atrains ah ok thanks!
@justinnoga94716 күн бұрын
I love this bike.
@atrains16 күн бұрын
Thanks brother. Coming from you that means a lot. Your builds are all top shelf!
@Junior-fd8ux16 күн бұрын
My buddy just got one of these in white. It’s been hit tho by a car im guessing, forks are whipped and I know one of the rear s tubes is dented good. Sucks to see it. Came with gt stander front and rear, white mallet white bars that are bent to hell to. 😢
@atrains16 күн бұрын
Oh no that’s horrible. Hope he wasn’t on the bike when it was hit. Guessing he doesn’t have it anymore. Bummer
@Junior-fd8ux16 күн бұрын
@@atrains oo no it’s there this was just last week he got it. If I had the money to blow it would have been my new piece of art to hang up lol. He runs a bike shop and has been steadily into freestyle/bmx from the beginning of it and never left. He comes across some crazyyy stuff too man. He’s really good dude and buddy of mine.. he dosent price gouge either on these old bikes and parts because he wants everyone to be able to enjoy it.
@justinnoga94718 күн бұрын
The new pork chop are better. The motor cross version are thinner flimsy stickier. Much better from porkchop
@atrains18 күн бұрын
@@justinnoga947 that’s very interesting 🤔 because according to Cindy at A’me and Justin at PC there are the same. Just packaged differently. I’ve had the “motor cross” grips and the PC versions and I didn’t notice any difference. Hmmmm this is interesting. Wonder if they had a few bad batches of material?
@concretenyc682619 күн бұрын
Waiting on part 2!
@justinnoga94719 күн бұрын
My 88 Dyno pro compe was the same way. Electric blue over white.
@justinnoga94719 күн бұрын
Ive seen 1989 dyno pro compes with no 990 mounts
@atrains19 күн бұрын
Justin, cool thanks for confirming that. 1989 Dyno catalog also shows no 990 mounts but many of the bikes came with 990 mounts as you know. I wonder if these non 990 mount frames were early 1989 or late ‘88 serial numbers. I bet this was generally caused by the availability of the DC990 and Axiom 767.
@justinnoga94722 күн бұрын
Sweet
@justinnoga94722 күн бұрын
Why did some have silver bottoms? And when did they start dating these ? Some later ones ive seen with dates. Also my nos freestyle didnt have a notch on the bottom - crazy
@o.p.h.o.v.e.n23 күн бұрын
I just bought the yellow Dyno one for my Slammer build.
@wolfgangpuff703023 күн бұрын
Though I was very content with the dependability and functionality of the Gyro on my upgraded freestyle bikes (87 ProPerformer and 88 Dyno Detour), I was always impressed by the look of the SpinTech on the 87 Dyno ProCompe. Was not a big fan of the ACS rotor. Just my opinion, but it wasn’t as aesthetically pleasing when compared to the Gyro or SpinTech.
@luisrperez-tk2in29 күн бұрын
So 86 Gt performer is 175mm ?
@atrains29 күн бұрын
@@luisrperez-tk2in One piece cranks on the 1986 GT performer were 175mm forged chromoly.
@luisrperez-tk2in29 күн бұрын
Ok thanks
@jbw9999Ай бұрын
Good video! We need more like it. Those catalog errors sure make things difficult. Your video starts off with the 1986 catalog but it would be great if you could look at earlier years. The video mentions next year models being available the previous year (like cars). I had a Mach One that I got Christmas 84, but it was an 84 model (which was the first year). The 85 had several component changes. I know mostly how mine came equipped but sometimes I look for a few minor details that I just can't remember, but considering the catalog discrepancies, it's difficult. And my photos from back then aren't good enough quality to tell. I also think GT (and all companies) would just occasionally use different parts (and slight design differences), depending on supply issues, especially since other companies made many of the components a bike company used, even if it was branded with the bike companies name. I also noticed some of the GT bikes at bmxmuseum seem to be labeled the wrong year. Perhaps people assumed that their bike was the model year of the year they bought it. Or perhaps it was just because GT equipped them differently even for the same year. Of course the owner(s) could have swapped parts too.
@atrainsАй бұрын
@@jbw9999 yes this is a huge problem for many people because they see the serial number like 1087xxxxx and assume it’s a 1987 and was a 1987 model. I have a 1087 PFTTM that is 100% a 1988 by color, decals, parts used etc. That is going to be an upcoming video. As for the pre 1986 catalogs. I have a 1982 or 1983 catalog but I have never seen a 1984 or 1985 before with my own eyes. I can’t make a video on something if I don’t have the evidence to support it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@radvision2631Ай бұрын
Hello, can I ask is the 89 performer with the crash test decals any more desirable or rare than any other for that year ? Just wondering
@4130aykutАй бұрын
You lucky one. This is a Lamborghini. Done and Dusted everyday!! Keep it like a crown:-)
@atrainsАй бұрын
I’ve been slowly adding more and more NOS parts to it. It’s more original now than before. Going to be making the Aggressor video soon! Stay tuned. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@radvision2631Ай бұрын
Hi, just checking if youve seen the serial number update ? i may have mistakenly sent it to myself ? , just seeing the frame says G5L1 etc has a made in japan sticker rite near it, but is labeled pro world tour with original stickers and paint no baseball stamp either ,it sounds very confusing i believe ? Any help would be great thanks
@atrainsАй бұрын
G5L1 G for the production line. 5 for the year 1985. L for the 12th month or December. This was made in Japan. Very late ‘85 most likely set up as a 1986.
@radvision2631Ай бұрын
@atrains ok great thanks for the info, would you speculate ? where does this bike stand as far as if it is true. and I believe it is all og paint and decals as an original set plus having pro world stickers , this would throw a wrench in the facts we know, as a whole ..... I'm just learning as I go and if this may become an oddity. Case in the end it may help you as well, but again it's japan and I'm not sure the higher end models were. Produced there as you agree, or could this be actually what it shows, 🤔 I do appreciate your thoughts and time
@atrainsАй бұрын
I think you wanted this comment in the FS stamp video not the catalog differences video, but originally you said the bike had a made in Taiwan sticker on it. Yet the serial number points to Japan. So can you clarify you have a made in Taiwan decal on a frame with a serial number pointing to a Japanese factory. As for the statement I made on the FS stamp meaning video that all the high end bikes like the PFT, TM and such were made in the USA while the lower end bikes were all made in the orient. The inference is that you need to apply the all numerical serial number to the frame. All numerical (except with GTxxxx) is USA made. Yes, there are some PP, PWT/PFT that were made in the orient, it’s not that every single one was USA made but starting in 1987 things changed as GT had their Huntington Beach CA factory humming and producing a lot of the higher end products. I hope this helps.
@radvision2631Ай бұрын
@atrains yes it does help I did reference the wrong video list here , that being said yes it shows made in japan actual I was going on memory when I first spoke I had not seen it in period of time and thought otherwise, so all that being said, it all help hope to clarify that and I really appreciate your help and reply, as in my plans I hope to buy this bike, it's currently nfs bit open in the future I wanted to make sure I was buying and offering for what it actually is . I'm going to thank you and maybe if anything else pops up I hope you can help
@radvision2631Ай бұрын
Great video, im flored by the mid year change to the pro world and ive also heard they moved production from santa anna to huntington beach mid year 1986 ? Resulting to the race pro series decals also changed can you elaborate or add to that ?
@atrainsАй бұрын
GT moved to Huntington Beach CA in 1985. You can google 1985 GT BMX magazine ads and look at the address on it. Definitely 1985. I don’t know enough about the race line and each year specifically to comment with absolute certainty, so I stay in my lane.
@atrainsАй бұрын
And thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it.
@radvision2631Ай бұрын
@atrains thanks for the quick reply I have another curious question is it better here or email? You may be able to figure something out for me
@atrainsАй бұрын
@@radvision2631look me up on the BMXMUSEUM under Atrains89
@radvision2631Ай бұрын
Hey I havent been on there, I'll just ask quickly, I've come across a world tour labeled 86 and it has a made in tiawan sticker, so I don't have the serial number yet, this statement Kind of contradicts info of over seas pro style models , any ideas
@dylanmartin3141Ай бұрын
Feed it up first thru the fork , then pull the cable thru your pots mod. Then you can put the stem in.
@atrainsАй бұрын
@Dylanmartin3141 That is another method to do it and I’ve used that method before many many times. In fact I made a step by step how to on a BMXMUSEUM doing that way. bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=796932 However after doing a few a dozen GT’s I noticed some inconsistency with the fork tubes and being able to make the transition from the fork tube to the steer tube. Therefore doing it the way I showed in my video eliminates the issue altogether. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@4by_yotaguy373Ай бұрын
Wow the wave of irritation and relief that washed over me lol
@tg242ovlovАй бұрын
Strange, I have a survivor all original 1988 Performer with a race version stem with a factory Potts mod.
@atrainsАй бұрын
Not strange at all. GT was building hundreds of thousands of bikes each year between, GT, Dyno, Robinson, Auburn, Powerlite so it makes sense that a race stem modified for freestyle would be on your bike.
@rickclaydon5148Ай бұрын
What are Gen 1 going for these days?
@atrainsАй бұрын
Head over to the BMXMUSEUM or Evilbay for current selling prices. It depends on the condition and if OG finish. bmxmuseum.com/forsale/691168
@4by_yotaguy373Ай бұрын
👍👍
@MorbidThrasher666Ай бұрын
Great video.Now people can know this. 👍
@shtdaprdtrАй бұрын
On the comment about PFTs, pro performers etc.. built in the USA....What about the Japanese built world tours? there are world tours out there with bottom bracket serials and dual cable guides on fork??
@atrainsАй бұрын
What about them specifically are you referring to?
@shtdaprdtrАй бұрын
I was under the impression by the video..(maybe I missed something) that they were only built in U.S.?
@atrainsАй бұрын
@@shtdaprdtrmany of the bikes were built in the orient. Only all numerical serial numbers were USA made. I apologize if you understood what I meant when I said PFTs were made in the USA. Generally the high end bikes were USA made but definitely not all of them. Again follow the serial number. Any letters in it (besides GT) and it was made in the orient. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@monkistАй бұрын
This is what we love you for Tony👏😉 Thank you for doing these the way you do 🏆
@peterjensen6336Ай бұрын
Great video and curated clips Tony! Thank you again, these have been great to watch and enjoy. In my short study of PPs/PFTs since 2021 I fully agree with your summary statements at the end, they had to have been making so many bikes in late 87 into 88 the FS stamp had to be haphazard with bigger fish to fry.
@atrainsАй бұрын
In addition to this video a fellow GT owner presented a photo of his early 1989 Aggressor that had the FS stamp instead of the A. Now there are two possible reasons for this; 1) factory error grabbing the wrong dropout when welding. 2) GT was very confused about the aggressor in the beginning and some photos of it in ads show it with PFT decals. Another ad has no decals at all. Regardless GT might have considered it freestyle at first before making the change to Aggressor model abbreviation. What it does mean and proves is that Gary misspoke in the video. We all can agree that 1989 Aggressors were USA built being prototypes at that moment in time. So FS being stamped contradicts Gary’s FS = made overseas answer he gave.
@andrewjphillipsАй бұрын
Awesome
@naturalaspiredАй бұрын
Love it! Thank you
@bmxfreestylefanaticАй бұрын
Your videos are always so informative. Love it!
@ragereset1829Ай бұрын
Good info. Thx!
@samrivera3954Ай бұрын
Great video Tony!
@AlikatGuitarsАй бұрын
My video of Eddie.. You're welcome
@peterjensen63362 ай бұрын
Love these tutorials , excellent source for folks, plus get to see some nice builds. But truly the 990s are a pain and when watching the video you realize actually how many steps there really are 😂 and the fine tuning of the cables and gyros to get them to brake solid and gyro spin smoothly. Thanks for the vids ❤
@corrioliseffect2 ай бұрын
Holy CRAP!!! I own that exact bike in that same color!! 1988 GT Pro Freestyle Tour in electric blue with sealed mechanism mags! I found mine at Russel’s Bike Shop in Downey, CA in June, 1990, just about a month after my ‘87 Pro Performer was stolen. I still have it. Mine is in about 90% survivor condition with nearly all original parts. It came with those exact cranks, but there was a problem and the bike shop had to swap them out. There wasn’t enough thread, and the lock nut kept popping off and falling down to the pedal. The shop replaced them with newer GT Power Series 1-piece crank arms which have the logo dry-transferred in black letters similar to the 3-piece cranks. Also, I hated that stem. In ‘92 I finally found an original 1985 stamped GT block stem in white with a Potts-mod hollow bolt. My mom bought it for me ($35), and I had Bellflower Bikes install it. Unfortunately, when they did that, they also replaced the lower cable with the new, longer Gyro cable, which I never liked. I still have the original cable in my parts collection, and I know the dual cables are 4” long. I was always happy with the newly installed block stem. I thought this was the correct stem for ‘88 because that’s how the bikes are equipped in the ‘88 catalog. Not until the internet came along did I slowly realize that the new, inverted GT stem (which doesn’t appear in the catalog until ‘89) actually was factory original for ‘88. I still have the factory inverted stem and plastic cap which came with the bike, although the shaft is bent forward. The shaft on the block stem is perfect. In ‘92, when I started 9th grade, I very badly wanted to add GT Superlace wheels. These were still being sold at that time, but I couldn’t find any with the original GT hub logo. Even though they were 36-spoke hubs, they were being provided with the new GT sleek logo hub sticker of the ‘90s. I was never satisfied with this, so I ended up never buying them. I replaced the tires twice and the grips once, but I always bought the correct ones. The correct tires are the GT 20x1.75” low-profile tread, and they are all white. My last set of tires came from Albe’s mail order, which I installed before I retired the bike and switched to a ‘94 Pro Freestyle Tour Team Model, which I also still have (in pieces). The 990 is not the correct U-brake for ‘88. GT Pro Freestyle Tours, Pro Performers and Dyno Pro Comps came with a thicker U-brake from Axiom, which I bet is difficult to find today. The 990 is the better brake, though, because it offers better brake pad adjustability. My bike also has Odyssey RX-3 levers and a Dia-Compe 883 Nippon in the front. My powder coat is factory original, and is in excellent condition with no fading. My mags are pretty yellow, and so are some areas of the cable housings. The correct pegs are the first generation GT steel pegs, which go in the rear with the frame standers. The alloy pegs you have are correct for ‘87; my Pro Performer had those. My bike came with black, sealed cartridge bottom bracket bearings just like those, so I believe those are correct. 👍 Thank you for uploading your video! Stay rad! 🤙
@atrains2 ай бұрын
Hey bud that was a lot to unpack. Well I’m glad you liked it! As for the 990 being the incorrect u brake for 1988, that is not true. GT used the DC990 and the Axiom 767 brake through 1988-1989. When the DC990 came out in 1986 and GT started using them in 1987, many other bikes started as well, like Haro. There was a shortage of DC990 and GT needed to fill a void. The Axiom was used on the Pro Performer, PFT and the TM in 1988 but not all of them got it. I have a survivor PFTTM ‘88 that had it. I had a ‘88 PFT new when I was young that had it as well. But there are specimens out there with the DC990 from the factory.
@corrioliseffectАй бұрын
@@atrains Hey that's really interesting. I never saw an '88 GT or Dyno equipped with a 990, but I have always wondered why the Axiom was used. I used to like the Axiom better as a kid due to it's thicker, more visible look. It wasn't until my flatland days in the '90s when I realized that the 990 is really the better system. I'd really like to know why in the '89 catalog, both Pro Freestyle Tours are equipped with Nippons in the rear. I've only learned recently through seeing people's bikes on KZfaq that the actual '89 Pro Freestyle Tours came with the same chain stay mounted U-brake system with the cable through the down-tube as it was on '87, '88 and '90.
@hairlessharescrambler562 ай бұрын
These seats are awesome I've bought 7 of them so far for my oldschool dyno compe collection
@MorbidThrasher6662 ай бұрын
Quick and easy. You didnt show them adjusting the pads and dialing the barrels adjuster to get the gyro silver detangler perfect and even. Save that or the next video,idk how i never made a video for that,after doing so many in my lifetime.
@atrains2 ай бұрын
@MorbidThrasher666 Yes you are correct. I was running out of time and didn’t want it to go over 10 minutes by much. Setting up brake pads will be for a future video as will be dialing in the Gyro. Thanks for watching and commenting bud.
@MorbidThrasher6662 ай бұрын
Beauty!💟
@bmxfreestylefanatic2 ай бұрын
Nice job on the video!! This is a common problem for most when installing the 990.
@MorbidThrasher6662 ай бұрын
Not me,im a pro,lol
@andrewjphillips2 ай бұрын
Whats the best way to feed the bottom cable thur the s vend?
@atrains2 ай бұрын
Honestly….remove the cable housing from the cable and feed the cable through the top entrance of the s-bend. Then fish it out the lower exit guide then install the cable housing and push it back up. The hosing will follow the cable. See the video below for more details. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otp2fcR9ur-WhKs.htmlsi=I7uEAKYFVXl1YBK9
@andrewjphillips2 ай бұрын
Awesome thank you
@ragereset18292 ай бұрын
Good info. Thanks!!
@4by_yotaguy3732 ай бұрын
That is one beautiful specimen. 100% perfect, I wouldn't change a thing. 👌
@LuffLuff37372 ай бұрын
Fuggggggg! 10/10! Beautiful bike! 🔥🔥🔥🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽
@bmxfreestylefanatic2 ай бұрын
Nice bike. DM me price. Thx.
@atrains2 ай бұрын
Hit me up on the BMXMUSEUM. Atrains89
@francissobotka87252 ай бұрын
The shorter cables were made by odyssey for gt
@atrains2 ай бұрын
No they were not. We have found markings on them. CS usually, especially on the upper cable.
@Wildstylegrafix2 ай бұрын
What model are the Ukai rims ? I had a set on my Dyno back late 80's wouldn't know what they were. Memory not so good these days lol. Looked like your set though pretty sure.
@atrains2 ай бұрын
Ukai speedline hook end. 20 x 1.75. They should just be hook end without the grooves like a 7L but I used them because of their condition. Speedlines were used mostly on the racing bikes.