In what way is a DIY/custom adjustable steering stop a trash product? Are you referring to it being 3d printed? That's totally irrelevant if you are. Printed parts done properly with the right materials and printing configuration are extremely fit for purpose.

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Great idea

Thanks for watching brother.

Well put. I agree. ...On the topic, some really successful racers that I know and have known, swear that all bikes rise as you accelerate. This is simply not true. Maybe "all bikes" that they have raced do. But not all bikes do. It all depends on your setup. ...Also on this subject, just because your anti-squat number is above 100% (for instance 105%), doesn't mean that 5% will be enough to counteract the force that acceleration will have on your bike's tendency to squat. That's exactly why I find the Superduke's 107% is not enough. At least it's not enough for me.

All motorcycles, or vehicles with two wheels, which have similar suspension (telescopic forks, swingarm, and belt or chain drive), behave by the same rules of physics and can be affected by adjusting these points. Admittedly this information is well below the surface of the majority of riders or enthusiasts, but it's still there. _"Forget mysterious dark matter and the inexplicable accelerating expansion of the universe; the bicycle [by extension the motorcycle] represents a far more embarrassing hole in the accomplishments of physics."_ -Michael Brooks

@@exothermal.sprocket You make a valid point about that same rules of physics. I guess that's why I tried to watch this till the end, hoping to understand it so I can adapt or experiment even on my own bike, a Z900.

@@jerodoque Frankly I personally think that's a great platform for a sort of competent racing platform. Not sure if it needs dogbone links or adjustable triple trees to achieve the sort of behavior that would make it really good, but I guess that's what experimentation and trying things might reveal. Have you taken it on track?

@@exothermal.sprocket Haven't had the chance yet. I was supposed to join a trackday last weekend, but then life happened and I had to cancel. Just the usual weekend mountain runs. I guess I really need more seat time before I do anything else again. When I tuned my suspension few months ago, I kinda unknowingly increased the rear ride height by setting the correct preload. And I really wondered why the bike suddenly felt much better to ride on with that minor tweaks. Now I think I understand what happened, thanks to this video

@@jerodoque Cool beans. Yes, that's pretty much what I would (intentionally) do when a factory bike. They come with pro-squat geometry with the very limited cheap shock. I do believe that is intentional, because manufacturers believe that understeer is safer for most riders coming out of a corner, than oversteer/high-side crashes. They would rather error on the side of understeer/plowing than risk going too far. Just like new cars and trucks being set to understeer when a slide happens. A lot of my research about motorcycle purchases revolves around the availability of suspension and brake parts from the aftermarket because I've lived with factory crap suspension with way too many motorcycles over the years. I've felt quality suspension and I've felt budget suspension. Quality is better. But it's one thing to swap a shock. It's another thing to set it up correctly.

Have you watched my Gen1-2 setup series? It goes through every setting that we changed on that bike to improve it on track. Really in depth. It's on this channel, a bit farther back.

@@superduked33 for Sure ! 2 Times each 😍 I'd Just try to Order 15/40 at our local KTM Store. Without succes... Now i Just want to figure Out what Chain Link is neseccary to install 15/40 or 16/40 with a good amount of Ride hight in the rear to get Close in 99 Trial in the Front

I get my sprockets from Sprocket Specialists. Really cool dude who makes them to order. Aluminum finish, anodized, whatever you want. He goes all the way up to 45 in the rear. Tell him GoGo sent you :)

Also the +20 Sportlink reduces some of that nasty progression of the spring rate. Longer shocks don't do that.

@@superduked33 It’s almost like I knew what I was doing!😂

You know what's interesting, and completely unexpected - lowering the nose does help trail, but it flattens the swingarm angle too. It's amazing how adjusting one simple thing on a motorcycle always seems to effect seven other things..

I think lift / no lift / anti-squat #s are not the same across the board. I think different bikes have different needs. For example at round 1 this year my shock was handed back to me, after being serviced at the track, shorter than I had it. The result of that was less rear ride height / less swingarm angle / less anti-squat. My rear tire spun everywhere. It was super difficult to ride fast. In fact I lost against the same bike that I beat an hour later by half a straight - once I lengthened the shock again. Night vs day difference. So I'm sure you are right, for some bikes. But the SDR holds its motor farther back than most sportbikes, like the S1000RR for example. This could be why it wants so much more anti-squat. Having said that though, I spoke with the chassis guy who sets up some of the fastest 600s in the AFM, he said he aims for anti-squat of "18". So in the end I think it's best to go with what you feel and experience out there. Good quation, thanks for contributing

@@superduked33 It could also be by design, the superduke is marketed as the ultimate hooligan bike made for wheelies and burnouts. Perhaps the increased amount of trail makes rolling burnouts easier since the front wheel wants to stay in line with the direction of travel easer, and the lack of anti-squat promotes weight shifting to the rear tire so it wheelies even easier under power, the reason the superdukes are known for just wanting to wheelie 24/7 might not just be the engine but also chassis design, thats my hypothesis at least

​@@gabrielibarra5551I agree with your thoughts regarding design/concept of the Super Duke. It is clearly promoted as something different than an super vike without fairings. "The only bike designed as an super naked from bottom up", is a statement I've heard from KTM. I guess KTM know what market and consumer they need to design their bikes to, to make it a sound business still going forward. It is always a compromise selling to all consumers. Really appreciate Eric's effort with getting the bike handling the best for track, as there is no track dedicated LC8 motored bike in the market any longer.

Yes the Gen4 is made with all the same parts, minus one side of the triangle which houses a sensor on the EVO. The non EVO models not sold in America can use Gen3 links. I am coming out with Gen4 EVO links in a few weeks. Thanks for asking

Great, looking forward to the Evo EU version@@superduked33

​@@HansMeeus your Evo is the same as ours... The only real difference is USA doesn't get the regular R without the eWP

I use a TTX for the BMW S100RR. Yes I did get it revalved but not because it was wrong fro the bike. It was wrong for me. I am too heavy for normal valving. I'm calling it big boned but I've been called fat also. :)

I’ve never seen a fat skeleton lol. I suffer from that as well though! Which year bmw? I see the newest m1000rr shock they have is 369mm long.

I’m dumb, it’s 369 +2 or -10. Looks like the BM 568 for 19-21 s1000rr

I'm really glad you got something out of it. Thanks for watching

Cam chain tensioners are an issue. Solvable though. That video is on the board soon

YES!

Thank you! :)

@superduked33 No thank you very much getting better lean Angles