I love how John gives Jared like 45 minutes to "draw up a plan"... I'd probably need over a week.

the meeting scenes from 'zero dirk thirty' is also great please do analytics on it.

I couldnt stand Seth. Politician and butt kisser. Always worried about the wrong thing like peoples pay.

Great job analyzing the scene.

ref selling vs buying : stop buying and trust levels of their business would fall quick - both from a consumer market and investor pov - imo

Excellent analysis of a great movie.

Well you have to understand todd when they decided to go forward with the fire sale, it's possible they were wrong. They sold assets that they thought might be worthless, but what if they were wrong? They would have sold for pennies on the dollar things that were worth far more. You could in fact say that they were the smartest by realizing the true value of what they had, and they were the first to realize it because they were the smartest. Cheating? Is it cheating to be smarter than your opponents? Well, some might call it that.

One nuance that is missed is that they all look & act like they're about to declare nuclear war, "If we do this" & son on, when really it's all smoke & mirrors that people have bought into because of sheer greed.

Best movie of the trilogy is Margin Call its not even close. The other movies are solid movies but Margin Call is a legendary film that is criminally under appreciated.

This shows the importance of leaders who understand. Even if they are very understated about it In the early 2000's I worked for a company that supplied essential, high value body parts to the automotive industry. Including almost every visible part on the latest Aston Martin. The parts were made by a process called "Superforming" which, from the moment I took the position of Production Planner - looked like a black box process. A dark-art that only 2 or 3 people in the whole organisation really understood, and even with them - the error bars for process time and part failure percentage were enormous. The motor industry puts huge financial penalties on companies that deliver late. Tens of thousands of UK£ per half hour late (yet also want J.I.T... just in time delivery - living on a knife edge) The sales team came back one day with a huge new order. Everyone was excited. I asked about capacity. No one was interested. So I went to the shop floor and the process development team and asked for their data, and where data didn't exist, their best guess for the process time for the critical production points along the process path of each item. There were hundreds of items each with its own unique process path. I put them all into a spreadsheet - with their timings against the critical forming and CNC machinery, along with average down time, maintenance etc. The number of minutes required came to almost 3x more than would have existed had the machines been working 24/7. And at that time we worked 16/5 I didn't make a fuss. I went to see the General Manager with the findings and said that either the timings were wrong (possible) or we we under-resourced by a massive margin (more likely) or a bit of both. What happened in this movie. The calm leadership under crisis. The ability to understand what was important and see a route through it. The opposite happened here. A few days later the senior team had a meeting about it. I wasn't invited. My spreadsheet had all the answers. I was reliably informed by the head of QA (Hi Colin B if you ever read this - how are you mate) - a friend of mine who did attend - that It wasn't even referenced after the first 5 minutes. I'm not blowing my own trumpet. What I did was what I was trained to do. It was just common sense and a bit of Excel knowledge. Nothing spectacular. They made decisions to move to 24/7 and buy more machinery and take on more staff to run them. The decisions they made in that meeting were almost all completely wrong. Based on least resistance. ease of implementation and not upsetting some of the "gurus" in development who took personal offence that anyone had questioned their ability No-one had questioned their ability - well not till that point. Now I do. Their preciousness, allied to an over incentivized - but none accountable - sales team caused the company to go bust. One of the sales team had bankrupt another local company a few years earlier I later found This is what happens when you offer unqualified bonuses to sales teams "just get the work in" - with no reference to your ability to actually do the sodding work in the time allowed or with the resources available. The staff they took on were the wrong staff, trained in the wrong disciplines, or needing training (which would take months) The machinery they bought did not address the critical bottle necks The end client (Ford and Aston Martin) were kept mostly in the dark and fed unfounded optimism for months. I know because I worked in the top office and overheard some almighty fibs being relayed over the phone. The company faltered and spluttered for about 6 months setting this up then went bust. They reformed as a company days later with "2004" affixed to their new registered name. They have gone bust again at least one more time since. The last time they went bust they left the workforce (at the time just under 100 people - quite a bit smaller than when I worked there) unpaid.

Basing decisions, experiences and the like on movies is brilliant. A movie is a master class and so true it is. Skip college, job experience, books in general and just watch movies and before you know it your on your way to a successful life full of riches and the like.

I prefer big short..bcoz it is financial crisis..its all haywire..but in margin call..u still have time to talk so slow n with style n metaphora in a meeting??big short is more realistic..u just talk all f**k s**k angry..we can feel all the negative emotion in bigshort..n it is a fast pace movie..just like it has to be..bcoz it is chaos

Ok when writing out the hierarchy why would you put the TOP ranking person at the BOTTOM and vice versa? Makes no sense.

Why were they buying? Buying is try to sale in the future with higher price. But the asset is toxic. They cannot get rid quick enough

this movie is a masterclass in acting!

Each of these franchises has a great deal of source material to draw from. There remains an appetite to Americanize many European stories. The stories or folklore are cheap and in the public domain. Familiar enough that you don't have to put too much effort into educating the viewers or introducing unfamiliar characters. They become avatars for whatever story or message you want to convey.

How about Ice Age, Despicable Me and Cars?

I want the T-shirt: "Be First, Be Smarter or Cheat".

Love the street fighter analogy. Nicely done!

I watch this scene almost regularly. Never getting tired of it It's so realistic, relevant and Jeremy Irons is fantastic

In a world of jareds, I'm Sam.

Jeremy Irons was just phenominal. The film itself was boring EXCEPT for 2 scenes: This one, and the scene where they have a "second opinion" meeting as soon as they find out there could be a problem.

They all cheated, I haven’t gotten to the end of this video writing this but that’s how it is. No one got out unless they were kicked out aka fired. Sam tried to quit out of protest for his staff but he needed the money. Is that putting a price on morals? The answer varies from person to person. There are no individuals here, this is the company. Outside of silent partners and share holders this is the corporation. This is the company doing what a company does, this is the work people go to. This is the job. Doing a good job at work is doing good work for… the company, which as we see here makes wild decisions based on that good work. Your good work helps the company cheat. There’s not a person there who’s not a “company man.” The company is going to protect the company. The situation is unique but not what’s happening and with who. It could be any other meeting about whatever. It’s the same set up with having all the appropriate people in the room.

I also love, for some reason, how Kevin Spacey's character says lunch time. Everyone's lunch time is different, more margin of error. IDK, I thought it was better written than "noon" or "afternoon".

I work in finance. These are three of my favourite movies. You are brilliant.

"Marcello, get me Eric Dale" "It's done" Two words, off camera and who doesn't want to watch a whole show about Marcello?

This is not simply selling something which you know will be worth less tomorrow. This is selling something they are the creator and market-maker of. 100% cheating no matter the justification

you forgot one movie: "Inside Job" narrated by Matt Damon. it's the most comprehensive regarding 2008 financial crisis.

It’s because Seth is a drone, here to do tge bidding of others. Isfj

Gen Z, Margin Call is set to the background of the Dot Com bubble, where there was a plethora of engineers out of work, and finance industry struggling to transition to computerized modeling tools in stock & trades, hired them all, that continue to this day with AI based systems.

Be first, and be smarter, and cheat. Sums up Wall Street, dark pyramid of the stock market.

Really like this video but YT's like button is broken right now. Will like this later, but did subscribe.

Really well done!!👍👍

It's just an awesome scene!

One detail that was pointed out in another analysis is the way the chair back on Fuld’s chair blends with his dark suit to form massive pointy shoulders. It doesn’t happen with the rest of the characters.

Same reason no one talks about building 7

Everybody sarcastically downplays his own intelligence. First it was Will Emerson to Sam when Sam asks if the kid knows what he's doing. Will: What do I know. Then it was Sam to Jared: Sam: Yeah , but what do I know? And finally Tuld to Peter (actually to the whole board members) "It wasn't brains that got me here."

It is a fantastic movie, but it is not a documentary. There were several things that were left out and/or changed, in the producer’s interests.

It's not cheat... its selling a product to "willing buyers at current fair market price"

The wild thing is this is literally happening while I type. Market has 3 weeks tops.

This is because all the head of the banks had a meeting and decided not to save them.

Imagine a movie where the entirety of it is a meeting similar to this, but they discuss a very dark topic: what to do with all the Jews in WWII. It has also a top cast: Kenneth Branagh, Stanley Tucci, Colin Firth among others. It’s a BBC movie called from 2001 called Conspiracy. I highly recommend it.

Excellent analysis. Keep up the fine work.

GOAT finance film

Will is a double deal POS. He knew Eric Dale was going to be canned and he knew why. Will already had Demi Moore's character as the scapegoat to save his hide. Rewatch the Eric Dale firing scene. Will is a snake in the grass.

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Well, there is a lot being said with very little being specified. The "they say a lot while not really saying anything" bit. "Using a lot of words while saying nothing" bit. The phrase and words: "Fuck me.... volatility..... The VAR numbers show/indicate..... things are bad." Some version of that. The actors Paul Bettany and Kevin Spacey said that the actors worked hard to remove "the legaleeze" in the script so that they could understand what they were trying to say. I wish more of the technical stuff had been left in. If someone has a clue: could you guess as to what was removed and what you would put in (in terms of explanations of a financial technical element)? I don't care about the trees, the dating dialogue, small talk stuff. How specific would a conversation between characters of their level of experience and responsibility have been; when discussing the situation unfolding the contingencies? It seemed to me that at one point that Tuld fires everybody that is close to making the percentage of closures needed to get the bonus he promised. That's a snake move.

Just watch the movie? I thought everyone had.

I always felt it was all the bosses realized that Peter was easily the smartest person in the room by a mile, and when he realized there was a major problem that they all knew was a bad idea (continuing to package MBS products even when they shouldn’t have continued to go up in value during a recession) Sam later said to Jared that it doesnt feel like a bad dream, but rather that they finally woke up to reality that the banking sector was not actually too big to fail

A tour de force by Jeremy Irons