Nice driving, 110 before 6 and triple digits through it is moving!
@RBelun3 күн бұрын
Holy hell… thats fast! Excellent work
@Rattlecanjeff3 күн бұрын
Outstanding. That car is a bullet. I do have a question. If you had went to the weight savings lengths that you did with Trigger, how competitive or close would your 2011 S197 chassis be if you were willing to “cut it up”, as you said back in the day. Maybe even adding a built Coyote.
@robertfontaine365028 күн бұрын
very nice tip.
@snowjammmaАй бұрын
The cowl isnt the rain cowl its a sound symposer, removed mine when i installed my strut bar
@CryptoPaperRouteАй бұрын
when your not sure, always use the impact lmao
@SporttplusАй бұрын
A stunning lap, my friend. I appreciate the shout out. You deserve props for what you put together in your car and in your lap. A well deserved win. See you on the next one! Aamer
@VorshlagАй бұрын
Congrats on your new personal best, and I'm still upside down on our head-to-head battle tallies! :) We are definitely pushing each other to go faster - we were both ~4 sec quicker than P3 overall at this event - and I look forward to the next time we're on track together.
@bnkrdbones43912 ай бұрын
What about the other connector on the epas rack where do those wires go?
@Vorshlag2 ай бұрын
On the S550 rack there are two connectors. One of those is the power harness, and we buy a ~$100 F150 harness for that. The other is the control harness and we used a harness from Cortex. We cover all of this in our S550 project build thread, starting in the last post on this page and following later in the build: www.vorshlag.com/forums/forum/vorshlag-motorsports-discussions/vorshlag-project-cars/7152-vorshlag-s550-s650-mustang-development-2018-gt-2024-darkhorse-trigger?p=58881#post58881
@SDBDUB2 ай бұрын
Is there a brake upgrade for the 14 inch rotors that makes them rear flow?
@SDBDUB2 ай бұрын
For example, can you use a 14 inch S197 Track Pack rotor with the 4-piston S550 GT brake calipers?
@Vorshlag2 ай бұрын
Ford finally figured out the reverse hat rotors for the 14" brake was a BAD idea and the later S550s (2022-23?) had a normal rotor, so you can source those instead.
@SDBDUBАй бұрын
@@Vorshlag Thanks for the reply. I ordered a set of "normal" vented 14" rotors from the S197 Brembo Kit. If you offset the calipers right with washers/spacers on the S197 bracket, apparently that can work. I'm going to try it and see what happens.
@kerryjager66722 ай бұрын
Did you do any testing with a gt350r brake upgrade kit ?
@JordonMusser2 ай бұрын
I saw a lot of people miss that last right!
@ffhillclimber98583 ай бұрын
What wheels (F&R) are you running on this and what are the offsets?
@shafer11753 ай бұрын
Hey I talked to you a bit on Saturday, I'm in the first shot with the Camaro! Sucks that this run was a DNF but that thing is mega fast!!! I hope to see it on a course that it can use it's strengths on
@LeKelsor3 ай бұрын
Would i see any gains from this intake in a gen 3 4.8 vortec?
@3rdGenGuy3 ай бұрын
so what did you change to get the higher peak numbers? I recently installed a Mk60 and now I'm curious. on BALD 315 A052 and I mean below wear bars bald, I'm hitting 1.11g in a 3,100lb 3rd gen Camaro.
@LouisGigliotti3 ай бұрын
Nice lap. Man you drive that car on the back tire, pretty cool.
@2004dsgmach14 ай бұрын
Amy’s such a badass!
@djsonicc5 ай бұрын
That's awesome. Love the muffler placement in prep for diffuser.
@shawn33905 ай бұрын
"Promo sm" 😥
@motonvipr5 ай бұрын
Curious how much quicker are Trofeo RS tires compared to tires like the Cup 2 R?
@Chilicharger6655 ай бұрын
They don't have a website? What all services do they offer?
@Vorshlag5 ай бұрын
They don't offer services, just sell the wheel repair machines. Search for Wheel Restore USA located in Lewisville, TX and you will find them.
@TRUMPUSA15 ай бұрын
False information
@Vorshlag5 ай бұрын
Yea well.... with that youtube handle, I'm gonna suspect you wouldn't know false information if a 200 pound anvil fell from the sky on your head :P
@TRUMPUSA15 ай бұрын
@@Vorshlag gfy
@TRUMPUSA15 ай бұрын
@@Vorshlag "TDS Auto Repair' ... We're Never Right! 😂😂
@TRUMPUSA15 ай бұрын
Can I take those top nuts off (one on each side) while they're on the vehicle and vehicle is on the ground??
@ashishpatel16853 сағат бұрын
yes you can. but Do not jack up the car when you take off the nut.
@djsonicc5 ай бұрын
I love the air dam formed to factory bumper lip.
@p0intdk6 ай бұрын
Should one ever do his own roll cage?
@Vorshlag6 ай бұрын
Well it depends on your skill level and tools on hand. Making a roll cage from scratch is a HUGE task, and not one to be taken lightly. Installing a "cage kit" that is pre-bent / pre-cut is a lot less work, as we showed here, but it is by no means "easy". It is still a big task with lots of room to fail a track inspection. The goal is to end up with a safe, well built, well engineered and properly welded roll cage that meets or exceeds your series / class minimum requirements. Failing a cage inspection is a big mistake that could entail "cut it all out and start over", so keep that in mind when thinking of paying an experienced shop to install a cage vs "making it yourself". :)
@AMV12S6 ай бұрын
I would joke and say that's slow, but I remember my last car was 20 sec to 0-60...
@p0intdk6 ай бұрын
What about using 0.5-1mm alu. sheets to do the tall flat airdam?
@Vorshlag6 ай бұрын
Sure, that can work, but it isn't as flexible as the race roll. We've done aluminum air dams on a couple of cars where the gap was very short and didn't have too many curves.
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast6 ай бұрын
What about the c7z06?
@Vorshlag6 ай бұрын
That is similar to the C6 Z06, 2 stage internal "dry sump" pump. They work fine for the OEM tires, but add an oil cooler (which adds a pressure drop) and super sticky tires and ... well... you better watch the oil pressure data. :)
@PhilthyHorseRacing6 ай бұрын
Several places I've seen do s550 cages cut the roof off to finish weld. Glad to see yours is engineered to not need that
@TrackDayVideo6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Im going 325 square so I need to work with that strut adjustment for sure.
@kellyhatcher88026 ай бұрын
awesome thanks
@oliverrivas59576 ай бұрын
For the truck manifold, did yall end up using the manifold bolts that came with it? I seen a lot of people say they snap easy. My oem bolts still look good. But what did yall end up using?
@Vorshlag6 ай бұрын
Either the OEM bolts or new bolts from ICT Billet
@MrJrFish6 ай бұрын
Terry, your online info sharing has been invaluable to my S197 build. Thank you! (OK, edit. I wrote this before finishing the last minute of vid. So, 3mm is what you shoot for on tire/strut clearance min. Thx!) Question for you: My 305 NT01s stick out a bit past the edge of my 19x11s. So my tire rubbing the strut is my limiting factor. How close do you think I can set that tire to the strut and account for the tire deflection under load?
@Vorshlag6 ай бұрын
Yes we shoot for 2-3mm of room. Any more and we are wasting wheel room inboard. Any less and the tire carcass flex could make for some "rubber transfer"
@gmans78597 ай бұрын
Important to always be learning something....Thanks.
@ericbauer34127 ай бұрын
Nice Demo. Thanks!
@erikkoenig40377 ай бұрын
Those stairs are off the hook!
@Vorshlag7 ай бұрын
While we didn't do your "captains nest" extension, the main platform is still pretty big. ;)
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast7 ай бұрын
From what I saw the classification or mod factor is the same as last year. The yok doesn't have a different mod factor than an rt660. What am I missing? Id be surprised if it did cause. Its classed different thab conti extreme contact force, rival s, rt615, etc
@Vorshlag7 ай бұрын
You are correct, for the current NASA mod factors are 1.0 vs 1.6 for many of the 200TW. But in practice (and we have tested this also) the RT-660 is a DISTANT 2nd place to the A052 and RE71Rs.
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast7 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this. Too bad they couldn't just throw 200 on the dang tires. We have all the 200 tw tires. Falken, yoks, nankangs crs v2, re71rs and then you have less than 200 which is a different class in most cases. These need to either be 200 tw or faster than a gy3r to be a better option. Unless not competing then doesn't matter. How do you think this tire would compare to a 3r? From what I saw here the the rs looked slightly faster than a052 but tire testing is such a difficult thing. Again thanks for doing this.
@Vorshlag7 ай бұрын
Probably very similar to the Supercar 3R, but maybe a tick faster? Ford went to great lengths to have the Trofero RS made in these 2 sizes for this one car. Even if it was stamped "200TW" there are minimum numbers of sizes and diameters to be legal for many series that have 200TW limits. This tire is made in exactly 1 diameter and 2 widths. :/
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast7 ай бұрын
@Vorshlag this tire is going on a few supercars as well. Some new sizes coming. Not sure if it would have helped due to availability of the supercars and if tire rack is even going to carry the other sizes. If they do still probably not enough sizes to make the cut. For me he 3r is about .7-.8 seconds faster than yok on Buttonwillow cw13 and 1.25 at umc outerloop. That's on c7z giving faster session to yok. So might be a bigger gap. Pace range, 1:45 to 1:47 Buttonwillow, 2 flat to 2:02 umc If this tire ends up being faster than 3r it would be fastest none slick non hoosier available. Cup2r falls off too much after 1 or 2 laps to count for me but even so 3r is right there. Thanks again for doing this!!!
@dparm19847 ай бұрын
Any plans to throw the Nankang CR-S/CR1 into the mix? NASA classifies it the same as the Yokohama A052 and I am hearing it is nearly as fast (plus it has some additional sizes Yokohama does not).
@Vorshlag7 ай бұрын
Everyone I know and trust that has legit tested the Nankank CRS V2 against the Yokohama A052 has quietly put the Nankangs up for sale... if that tells you anything. I have felt ZERO desire to test the Nankangs, and kept beating everyone that did run them in my TT class last year. I was on the A052...
@dparm19847 ай бұрын
@@Vorshlag Thanks for that insight! The Nankangs are interesting as they make some very wide sizes whereas Yokohama stops at 315. And to your point, there is a reason the Yokohamas go out of stock often and the Nankangs don't!
@vegaman727 ай бұрын
@@dparm1984Not same day though similar weather, but I was within a tenth on 285/315 Nankang V1 last January compared to this past weekend when I went 17.8 on 295/315 Yoks on the same wheels fwiw.
@philmariop7 ай бұрын
A win for the cleaning guy.
@JerryCecco7 ай бұрын
thank you!!!!
@boblast55827 ай бұрын
Nankang CR-S v2 are supposed to be as fast as A052 but last a lot longer, thats what I've heard anyway, haven't tried them.
@Vorshlag7 ай бұрын
Everyone I know (and trust) who has tested the CRS V2 against the A052 has said the opposite.
@boblast55827 ай бұрын
@@Vorshlag the V2? I know the first version gave up quick and was a bit slower...
@Oneworld11167 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Supercar 3r’s? I’m currently running the 3’s on my Cayman, but thinking about switching. Also been looking at the rt660’s compared to Supercar 3’s. Take care
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast7 ай бұрын
The 3r is a lot faster. The rt660 last longer. The nankang crs v2 would be a great middle of the road tire if you're looking for something that last longer than 3r. The crs is just as fast if not faster then a052. The a052 is great for less experienced drivers imo it's easy to drive. I'm not saying anything besides it helps less experience. It's just as capable in professional hands too.
@Vorshlag7 ай бұрын
Supercar 3R is 100TW and not legal for any of the "200TW" series we run, so we have not tested with those. I suspect the RT-660 will be a tick slower but wear much better.
@p0intdk7 ай бұрын
Using the Haltech traction control? What are your feelings about it, does it work well, do you fell "it" and if so did it fell limiting as some of those systems does? Looking at the video it seems to be working well.
@Vorshlag7 ай бұрын
Yes, the Haltech traction control was added by RMS right before this test. I could feel it in one corner but the TC was triggering far more than I realized. I need to go back and test with fresh tires to see if it triggers as much as it did here...
@p0intdk7 ай бұрын
@@Vorshlag Hopefully a write up is in the works! 😁
@billysmith42787 ай бұрын
@@Vorshlag Just need that multimap dial so we can try different settings faster ;)
@tommyr958 ай бұрын
3900 PLUS driver???
@Vorshlag8 ай бұрын
Yep, this car weight 3853 with zero fuel, and we have to run it nearly full on track to prevent fuel starvation. Driver adds 200 pounds. This is not a lightweight car, but its still fast AF. ;) photos.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2024-Darkhorse/i-rSDGdrr/0/429aabe6/X2/IMG_5511-X2.jpg
@erikkoenig40379 ай бұрын
Nice!
@evcass699 ай бұрын
I was considering a mk60 conversion. Have you ironed out the kinks to get the desired performance?
@Vorshlag9 ай бұрын
We did - there were a lot of little things but it all adds up.
@3rdGenGuy5 ай бұрын
Well, don't be shy. Post all the issues. Lotta guys like me are installing these MK60s in CAM-T cars. Always nice to know what worked and what didn't.
@DanielGarcia-mw8zg9 ай бұрын
I tried to tighten the top nut with an impact and the shaft just spun with the bolt, and when I drive the car, the top nut becomes loose... any solution to this?
@Vorshlag9 ай бұрын
Could be your technique - it is hard to describe this even with the video. It's something you have to hear and feel. If you have tried this and it keeps coming loose, replace the Nylon locking top nut. Make sure to get the right thread pitch and diameter. Nylock nuts can only be used a few times before the Nylon ring is deformed too much to hold. You can also try a drop of blue Loctite. But if you drive around long enough on loose top nuts that WILL hammer out the Teflon lining on the spherical. No amount of tightening will fix that then. The top mounts might need to be serviced at that point. Reach out to us on our email (on our website) and we can get those turned around for you for minimal cost.
@7000U9ZHIFT9 ай бұрын
Holy shit look How small a 427 ls7 looks sitting in the engine bay vs a coyote Holy crap that's huge difference
@Vorshlag9 ай бұрын
Yea the 5.0L Coyote is a massive lump. This 454" LS engine is tiny in comparison. We show this pic a lot: photos.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2015-Mustang-LS550/i-S6nDqzv/0/87f61a6f/L/coyote-vs-LS-S197-S550-L.jpg
@7000U9ZHIFT9 ай бұрын
@@Vorshlag dude that is incredible LMAO
@Manny4.69 ай бұрын
Don’t have a s650 but still love the info about the new car and the wheel designs to fit the big brakes.