1979 was the best year for farm equipment companies. It was the mid 80s when the farm crisis was. Carter didn't lower loan rates. If you want to yack at least have facts

Don't get me wrong, the newer model is also a nice machine and works well. It just seems it's harder to fix than the other one because of some slight changes they made. But if I buy another one. I will look for the older version like my 84 model.

No it didn't, rarely see a 1480 still running....

Can't really knock the marketing. Even if they were more of a budget brand they did sell a massive amount of combines in the early 80s.

They were a good large capacity innovative machine when they were introduced that many custom combiners used. They did have reliability issues. They were more of a budget brand with lighter steel and looked to cut corners to save money. Example they originally had a reliable heavy duty bearing off the motor that they replaced with a extremely light duty one with the early 850/860s. It made no sense other than to save money and it caused constant major repairs. A couple years later they had to revert back to the original HD bearing.

@@jameshill4900 thank you

Everyone copied the original MF combines. Most of the European brands started out as either a copy of MF, like Claas and Fahr (and a couple others I can't remember), or were built under license from MF, like Dronningborg in Denmark and a few others.

1680 axial flows couldn't hold a candle to the 550 in the field. The feeder house was too small for thw bigger header. We used to run circles around the big crews from Texss that ran IHC

@@GallOGlaigh993 they must not have had settings right etc... I've been around 550 Massey's and their not worth the matches and gasoline to burn them with. A 1440 International is an even or superior machine.

@@Blazefork reread. I explained why.

@@GallOGlaigh993 I started out with a 1480 with a 30' 1010 and had no issues, could run 4.5 to 5 mph in 50 plus bushel wheat and keep it in the machine, a rotary combines capacity isn't as directly linked to the feeder house width as a conventional combine. I operated an N6 Gleaner and it was a cutting machine when you could keep it in the field and the throat was narrower than the International machines. I apologize for the snarky comment on the 550.. but the experience I've had with them is non plus.

You bet!

You bet!

It even had a radio in it so cool

Hell yes...

We had a 410, it was fine

I love how it opens with a Dallas-style TV theme of that era...

I liked them too and I am a JD guy...

Speaking for a 550 owner, reliability would be best described as bulletproof. It's 42 years old and hasn't had a rebuilt anything and it works fine. As for the resale value, I have no idea. we bought it new and haven't sold it.

Lol!

Gleaner Combines are a big fucking joke

@@carterrouth7801 Well, this video is for internal use only... at the Massey-dealers. I am sure that the Gleaner-dealers did have semilar videos too... We are working on a MF760 from 1977, and it will soon be ready to run another 45 years without major problems. The Massey760 combines are built to last..! Mayby due to competent dealers, preparing and checking the machines before they were delivered to the farmer...?

I’ve got a 90s Gleaner (R62) and it is legitimately the exact same thing as our 90s Massey (8680).

Gleaned are toys for children

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Super 92 was built from 1960 to 1964. None were built in the 50's

Massey was a good company, had decent dealer support and decent products. Don't forget that the big IHC and Allis also went under during the Carter induced farm crisis. New Holland ended up with Ford to survive as well. Can't blame Massey for the failure. Any simple economist can see that if you take away the farmers income and raise interest to over 20%, you have a disaster on hand and no way to recover till you get new leaders in charge. They had a hidden agenda to eliminate any and all small family farmers and business men in favor of the mega corporate operations that we have today. So over 1/2 of the Farmers and small businesses went under as well, If the farmer don't have money, he can't buy replacement equipment. That's the thing the big headed idiots in Washington don't care about the average person, they get their money, they don't give a fig about us, and their trying for a repeat performance today.

Don't go thanking the present adm just yet, any better income will come with a hefty cost, taxes and regulations. That and the higher price of energy and fertilizer and the shipping blockage at the ports, this will all cost us dearly in the near future. Poor old Joe is in over his head. Trump sure didn't help Agriculture with his trade war, but don't forget the ag subsidy that Trump sent us, not great but better than nothing. The farm sector is barely 2% of the voting populace, don't expect much from Washington Politicans from either side! As bad as the last 2 Administrations were / are, they don't hold a candle to Carter for destroying the Farm economy. I damn well remember going broke while that idiot raised the interest rates to 25% or more! Also no jobs avilable for us to make a living in town! Every small business and farmer locally failed or barely survived and no sympathy from The bastards that forced this down on us! You can take Carter , Clinton , obiden and the rest of those Leftist Socialist's And take them straight to Hell and keep them! I survived the Democrat war in Vietnam and the Carter and Trump years but Obama has totally set us up to die, one way or the other! Poor old Joe is simply his front man.@@GermanShepherd1983

@@frankwurth5375 Joe Biden gave my wife and I each far more PPP money tax free than trump ever gave us under his trade war payments.

@@GermanShepherd1983 Your just another Biden loving troll that just can't keep your leftist propaganda to your self. So shut The F up.

,i joke sometimes,how drunk were they when the designed that

My family here in germany had serveral of these types of machines(760, 860 all equipt with the V8 Perkins, never needed to repair the engine, onl valve time adjustment): Due to "Power Flow " cutting unit and robust design these amercian havesters where better (more acrers per hour) than our claas and John Deeere havesters! And in tractors the Perkins engines have way better cold starting abilities than the John Deers. If it was colder than -10°C the green ones always needed ether or strarting pilot to start...MY father always told:" Hey the time im starting the started you spray just enough ether into the air filter"....- But like alwaay there are and bad types of machines in any company. But hese types shown in the video where of good quality. Way better than the french build machines. their tractors had problems with the transmissiont, mainly the 32 Gears transmission and wirering harness... Best regards

@@ralfpusteblume2144 you should have tried a gleaner or New Holland, these Massey's were horrible machines

@@ralfpusteblume2144 have a V8 Perkins for an irrigation motor. Has to be 70 degrees to start it without ether. It’s pretty old though. I do agree with you about reliability. It’s never been opened up.

@@larrygro How many hours has the engine run? Normally if the Perkins engines have not run to many hours the start very well. Depends wether the pistons are worn out and this leads to low compression... But for me as a european i prefer cummins diesel John deere own built diesels. We never had any any Problems with cummins engines. In some bigger MF tractors cummins have been built into it. But never had any major problems.

@@ralfpusteblume2144 I don’t know because the hr gauge is broken but I would estimate 15,000 hrs at least. Uses very little oil though

My guess would be fewer than with others.

Were still running them here!

@@bondoly66 then you never owned one, we started with 4 brand new 860 in Arizona and by the time they got to Montana they were junk, and an awful lot of repairs in-between

They are now part of the largest ag company in the world and doing just fine.

@@bondoly66 But there is no more left than the brand.

Agco dropped Massey combines so they are no more.

Still see quite a few of them still running around the country!

They don't go bankrupt because of there combine they had a crooked ceo that should have want to jail he hurt a lot of people with his dishonesty so there built a awsome combine for the time but it's hard to stay in business when your ceo is steeling from the company.