2009 Mac Pro 5,1 Extreme Upgrade
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@edyantony4809
@edyantony4809 Күн бұрын
Thanks times ten. Used your advice on what I could afford. Great looking studio. Great video. Cheers
@alejandroperaltarenzi6657
@alejandroperaltarenzi6657 8 күн бұрын
Are you currently still using this computer for music production?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany 7 күн бұрын
I've recently switched to an M2 based Mac Studio computer as some of my software was going to require it. Otherwise this computer worked very well for far longer than expected.
@bglmlm
@bglmlm 28 күн бұрын
I have one 2009 Mac Pro & one 2010 Mac Pro!! very nice apple workstation. I install MacOS ventura 13.4 sucessfully on my 2010 Mac Pro by using OCLP.
@asynchronicity
@asynchronicity 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful and beautifully done. Someday…….
@daspec
@daspec 2 ай бұрын
This model is triple channel, so installing 128GB of RAM is STUPID because it will drop the memory speed ! The maximum amount for top performance should be 96GB
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could read the description that says that’s what I did before typing about STUPID
@herbmailey2779
@herbmailey2779 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@thefattmish
@thefattmish 3 ай бұрын
I've never heard the older Mac Pro systems called Cheese Graters. I thought was just the new ones. Hmm.
@andrewchurch2471
@andrewchurch2471 4 ай бұрын
This is the best video I have ever seen concerning upgrades to the Mac Pro 4,1 and 5,1. That model was in my opinion the pinnacle of computer design. Form factor, connectivity, cooling system--simple, powerful, versatile, reliable. 12 years later computing has come a long way, but the fact is that a well built 5,1 remains a valuable workhorse. I keep one dedicated to running pro tools HD 11 in my recording studio, for me it is as timeless as any great piece of analog audio gear. Twin 2.66 GHz 6-core processors, 128 GB RAM, HDX card, UAudio UAD2 quad card. Soon I will upgrade to SSD drives, 1 boot and 3 in a RAID. I find it deeply satisfying and encouraging to know there are others out there who, like me, appreciate the lasting usefulness of this great computer that was sadly (and perhaps shortsightedly) discontinued over a decade ago. I know that Apple owns the designs and calculated the business metrics of continuing or discontinuing the product according to projections of diminishing profitability, but it is such a sublime piece of hardware, one that really should have enjoyed a longer period of production and support. Thank heavens for third party solutions that continue to make owning and operating our venerable cheese graters possible.
@K9Compton
@K9Compton 5 ай бұрын
thanks any new updates
@Creativepreneurlive
@Creativepreneurlive 5 ай бұрын
I'm looking for a good system processor that compliments an Allen & Heath SQ board. Any recommendations?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany 5 ай бұрын
The Lake processors are the ones all my buddies like the best. If possible start there.
@Creativepreneurlive
@Creativepreneurlive 5 ай бұрын
@paperstreetaudiocompany what line of speakers would you recommend for this combo of allen & heath Sq board with the lake processor?
@Taras-Nabad
@Taras-Nabad 5 ай бұрын
So the 970 evo works well?
@richnorris1061
@richnorris1061 6 ай бұрын
Thermal pad wrong side of drives dude , it’s to transfer heat to heat sink :-)
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany 6 ай бұрын
www.sonnettech.com/support/downloads/manuals/sonnet_m2_4x4_pcie_card-ss_qsg.pdf Everything was done according to the manufacturers instructions. Ask Sonnet I suppose,
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 7 ай бұрын
great vid with a ton of info shared! its a real pity that the nvme card is so expensive, more alone than what ive got in the entire 5,1 dual cpu computer...if they were cheap on the used market, they would be a cool upgrade for many people
@SteveAaron
@SteveAaron 7 ай бұрын
Nice video. However, there is one thing you overlooked, and that is the 2032 battery. You put a CR2032 in place of a BR2032. The BR2032 is a rechargeable battery, whereas the CR2032 is not. As a result, the CR2032 will get damaged over time, because the circuitry around it will always attempt to charge it by applying current to it. I don't know if you're still using this machine, but if you are, you should definitely replace that battery with the proper one.
@Sector001ked
@Sector001ked 7 ай бұрын
Are there any Quadro cards that can be used instead of an RX580?
@johnchalkias4936
@johnchalkias4936 7 ай бұрын
Do u want to sell this Mac Pro??? I’m interested
@user-bl7qh5bk7v
@user-bl7qh5bk7v 7 ай бұрын
I bought a Mac Pro 3.1 2008 model back around 2017. I've upgraded it a couple times over the years, and I'm just getting done with another refresh, and every time I do it, I am astonished with how well it continues to keep up with current tech. Apple did their best to phase these units out because they were too good and too reliable to convince people to upgrade to a newer model. here, 15 years later, it still keeps up.
@DouglasDubler3
@DouglasDubler3 8 ай бұрын
One correction. The Mac Pro 2019 will take 128 Gb but only recognize 96. I upgraded two of mine. Also putting the SSD in the slow SATA slots I think is a waste. I think the connectors for the SuperDrives would give you more speed. I am using Iocrest PCIE card With 2 Crucial gen4 2 TB NVME and getting 2800 read and write. Not bad for a 14 year old computer...
@57Techboy
@57Techboy 8 ай бұрын
Great video, lots of valuable information and strategies. But the proper term you should have used is Dynamic EQ instead of Active EQ which is basically a multiband frequency-dependent compressor. The term Active EQ is what Mc DSP calls their AR 600 Dynamic EQ plugin. Cheers, Perry.
@Station2Station-du2gh
@Station2Station-du2gh 8 ай бұрын
6:20 Multi showcased very well. The underlying sawtooth waves with the tiny bell on top. 2 patches layered.
@DonalLeader
@DonalLeader 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant presentation and so comprehensive
@ggonxhi
@ggonxhi 9 ай бұрын
I would put that SSD on the first slot and video card on the second. You are killing the video card airflow with that card on top.
@EricRobb
@EricRobb 9 ай бұрын
Make a video of you eq-ing and just talking about it
@PiDsPagePrototypes
@PiDsPagePrototypes 10 ай бұрын
24:58 - Annnd, pauses,... Any special tips on getting the OS to write data at that speed? I have a 5.1, same 3.46GHz processors, system on a SATA SSD, with an OWC Accelsior 4M2 and Samsung M.2 drives, the M.2's are faster as individual disks then they are as Raid Zero. Take the same 4M2 card, drop in to MSI X99A SLI Plus board with i7-5820, and I get faster Raid Zero then what you've shown here. I have a Kona4 card, looking for performance for Uncompressed Raw DNG's for video.
@Station2Station-du2gh
@Station2Station-du2gh 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a dandy with those 15 filter bundles.
@jackdanulsprime2077
@jackdanulsprime2077 11 ай бұрын
I know this video is 2 years old, but that picture that was shown is not a 5,1 cpu tray, it's a 4,1. The cpu's were de-lidded and there are no cpu clamps. I 5,1 has cpu clamps and uses lidded cpu's.
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 7 ай бұрын
I dont know why the vid was titled 2009 5,1... should have been 4,1 if 2009... probably just a slip up.
@irawardmusic
@irawardmusic 11 ай бұрын
Good video but there are some updates to this upgrade and I'd like to share them with you. Mac Pro 4,1 and 5,1 CPU's only support 3 channels of memory. If you put 4 channels in it, it run very poorly. You want to put 6 32GB memory chips in it. The delidded x5690's don't work well on the 2009 models because of heat problems. X5690's run at 130watts and need the lid to help in cooling and a whole bunch of variables and hardware that only are in the 2012 models. The best processor for this upgrade is x5675, they run at 85watts and in some cases out perform the x5690's. I wish I knew all of this before I spent way too much money down this rabbit hole LOL! Hope this helps, let me know if you need help :).
@irawardmusic
@irawardmusic 11 ай бұрын
When you run x5690's on a 2009 and load it heavy, the computer will shut down. Do not put any processor in the 2009 models that uses more than 85watts and operates higher than 80°C. Just because you can do it doesn't mean that you should :). Apple didn't do it for a reason.
@olegnesterov3467
@olegnesterov3467 Жыл бұрын
Perfect upgrade! Do you get 2 icons on a desktop (boot drive and storage) or only one?
@FULLSENDFC
@FULLSENDFC Жыл бұрын
do you have instagram or email?? i want this exact mac build if you could do a 2nd one identical ill pay $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@George-xs9so
@George-xs9so Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I’ve seen and that is after 45 years of mixing live sound! Great job. Wish everybody saw this!!
@chrismediachannel1812
@chrismediachannel1812 Жыл бұрын
I use a dual Xeon Computer as DAW, too. 👍
@larryvaughn5843
@larryvaughn5843 Жыл бұрын
What about a thunderbolt card?
@Fab4FanForever
@Fab4FanForever Жыл бұрын
What is the most recent macOS that you can upgrade to? Thanks
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
I went to Mojave easily. To go to a newer OS you would install OpenCore which supports many later ones.
@arxaaron
@arxaaron Жыл бұрын
I'm in process of doing most of these upgrades to my 2010 5,1 Mac Pro, including Mohave as the plateau upgrade. Some similar videos suggest a problem with the Mac displaying the post screen on power up / restart, so you can't dot the ALT startup and then have a visueal means to choose the startup disk. Does this RX580 & Mohave config display the post screen or is core boot or similar hack needed?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
This one boots and behaves normally. I see the boot up screen as expected, and it’s just the regular OS in play.
@arxaaron
@arxaaron Жыл бұрын
@@paperstreetaudiocompany Thanks for taking the time to reply. Of the several Mac Pro upgrade vids I've seen, yours is the easiest to follow! Thanks!
@tinshedprooldvideosfootage695
@tinshedprooldvideosfootage695 Жыл бұрын
Can I do this on a Mac Pro (Early 2008)? 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 12 GB 800 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM, ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB
@clems6belio
@clems6belio Жыл бұрын
Hey there, thanks for this video, looking to do some similar upgrades to my mac pro. What kind of speed do you get from your raid nvme now ? It's still only pcie 2 so I'm guessing that has to be the bottleneck, not the drives. 1000Mo/s ? More ?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
It’s a big improvement over the original. It’s was reporting something like 3800/s on the M.2 drives and that’s working great for me. I’m sure that the drives themselves can go faster, but it makes working on this machine feel the same as most modern macs.
@oscarcampbellhobson
@oscarcampbellhobson Жыл бұрын
19:20 I know for a fact on a 5.1 those ports are MINI six pin not six pin, but I don’t know on the 4.1 cmp
@MyGeogy
@MyGeogy Жыл бұрын
Hi May I know compare to Mac mini m2 is there much difference in the performance?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
I believe the M2 is more powerful. I’ll have one soon to test for myself.
@stewsmith3536
@stewsmith3536 Жыл бұрын
This is an outstanding video! Super Solid in every way
@IndioA
@IndioA Жыл бұрын
rarely seen so much botch!
@joeturner7959
@joeturner7959 Жыл бұрын
The RAM is marked DDR3-1066Mhz, PC-3 8500? Didn't you intend to get 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM (PC3-10600 How can you actually tell the bus speed and the interleave?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
The marking is confusing but the ram does run at 1333 and it reports as such in about this Mac. When it has the 4,1 firmware the computer would have run the ram at 1066, but the 5,1 firmware for the Mac Pro runs the ram at 1333.
@joeturner7959
@joeturner7959 Жыл бұрын
@@paperstreetaudiocompany On the PC, we have CPUz, on the Mac, I use GeekBench 5. What does GB5 say? Nice: So you have 24 threads, 12 cores, 24Mb of cache... 4xNVE... how fast does it boot?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
It’s hard for me to time it exactly, but booting from an M.2 is quite a bit faster than from the spinner it came with.
@idubzh243
@idubzh243 Жыл бұрын
Stupid question... You do all this with the same system, next time you turn on the machine everything will be OK and "reckognize ? Or, you will have to re-install the system after having made such huge modifications ? I ask because, I'm going to receive mine, I'm not Apple friendly... With a PC you can change everything on the fly and it boots up again, but with a Mac ? Such an old Mac ???
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
It’s the same as with any computer, I put in a faster processor, more ram, and bigger faster SSDs and M.2 drives. I didn’t need to reinstall the OS, it just runs like a fairly modern machine despite its age.
@idubzh243
@idubzh243 Жыл бұрын
@@paperstreetaudiocompany This Mac pro is awesome, that's why I chose this one... ;). Thx for your reply.
@skozzy1968
@skozzy1968 Жыл бұрын
Never owned an apple pc, seeing stuff like this makes me wonder if the costs for such an old machine are worth it, but sure look fun to make an old clunker into a faster machine and beat apple at their own game of forcing you to replace everything and contributing to e-waste
@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur Жыл бұрын
That ssd card is a very interesting product. holding that many NVME@ ssd's and to put 3 in raid must mean projects load incredibly fast, with 128gb ram.
@Locky2701
@Locky2701 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 Mac Pro mid 2012 ,6 cores 64 gigs of ram and 12 cores 128 gigs of ram,both running Monterey,RX580 and nvme raid zero Samsung 2X1tera,both are 3.46. Just bought a Mac mini M1 last year and is running Ventura. All the upgrades bought from OWC Very happy for my purchases
@Facedamuzik
@Facedamuzik 9 ай бұрын
Are you doing audio recording on Monterey was looking to go that way any complications
@Locky2701
@Locky2701 9 ай бұрын
@@Facedamuzik hi there,for photoshop I use Mac Pro and for audio I use Mac mini M1
@drwavenstein
@drwavenstein Жыл бұрын
"I have the same cmptr Mac Pro 5,1 mid 2010 w/dual xeon x5690 processors (oc Monterey). My question: is there a way overclock cpu to their maximum turbo-speed of 3.733ghz?"
@drwavenstein
@drwavenstein Жыл бұрын
" Super Video Bro !!! "
@Frank72364
@Frank72364 Жыл бұрын
19:33 OMG. I am an idiot. I did read about that Y split power cable for GPU but I thought it was other way around. For GPU that needed two 8 pin cables. That changes everything. I use RX 580 and my Mac Pro shuts down under heavy load. But that way I can juice my GPU with double the power. Thank you so much for this. Now I most likely don’t have to do Pixlas mod.
@daylightfullday
@daylightfullday Жыл бұрын
JAN 20, 2023 ~ Hi, your video is the third I've watch on upgrading a Mac Pro Tower, and THE BEST (most informative) video yet. I really appreciate the extensive explanations. Nothing left out but the approximate total cost spent on your upgrades. Also, it's been a year since you created the video. Are there any NEW editions of cpu, ram or video cards you might install now had they existed a year ago (Jan 2022)? Or anything you wished you had installed instead? There's always new products released and I'd prefer to install the most recent and highest upgrade of components as possible. Or... do you believe that the Mac Pro 5,1 that you upgraded hits the ceiling, upgraded as far it can get? One more thing, wondering if you have had any issues since, or additional firmware, OS upgrades etc. Thanks for any reply or additional, related videos.
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
I just looked and some of the things I choose got even more expensive with parts shortages and such. Wow
@Quik_SQ5
@Quik_SQ5 Жыл бұрын
Hi I’m curious how your getting 4000 + read and write speeds in a Mac 5,1 . I currently have the same machine and I can’t get more then 1300 -1500 . I have a single m.2 slot card ?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
That comes from the M.2 drives on the Sonnect PCI card running as a RAID.
@Quik_SQ5
@Quik_SQ5 Жыл бұрын
@@paperstreetaudiocompany can you run those speeds on the Bootup drive or only on the raid ones?
@paperstreetaudiocompany
@paperstreetaudiocompany Жыл бұрын
I wanted to have my boot up drive be a RAID but it was a bit kludges to get that to work. Instead one good M.2 was my boot up drive, but the working project drive is a RAID and that where I have (and need) the speed
@laurentiumanole3923
@laurentiumanole3923 Жыл бұрын
@@paperstreetaudiocompany Hi,all four M2s are for OSX and the two SSDs (owc blue slide) are RAID 0, is that what you were saying?