about overhead line electrocution, in Belgium(where I'm from), 2 19 year old guys climbed onto a workers post and got zapped, killed them...

Why was Nathan greeting the blue triangle at 2:48 😂😂😂

Lowest bidder 👋🏻

4:27 As of now, theres 8 operators with Sullivan Buses being the moet recent one ceasing TfL yesterday.

Incredible video. You are actually spot on with the information. Wished this vid was available before I became a bus driver, I use to wrk for the one u liked the most on the 277, but I’m now with Metroline..

Beautiful train construction? I went on a gwr 800 series about 6 months after the came into service... the interior panels were falling apart... the ride felt like the rain was running on square wheels... and the seats were about as comfortable as a bed of nails... mate you've got no idea what you're talking about!

The old 125s were and still are far superior for the passengers. Nicer carriages and being able to pull the windows down was the best. I'm massively disgusted by the UK for not building our own trains any more. It's pathetic.

I pretty much love the 800! I seen the driver seat twice on LNER at Edinburgh Waverley. I don’t mind new operators putting the 800 to their fleet to be fair

A while back, I was chatting to a guy on Grindr who was a long-term project manager for TfL. He mentioned that the plans were to split the Northern Line into: “Edgington Line” Working title for Kennington to Edgware via CX. He did mention a likely extension to Battersea that would be on this line. “Northern Line” for Morden to High Barnet via Bank. He said there was a 10-15 year plan to “train” passengers in preparation for the split by gradually making most Morden/HB trains run via Bank, and most Edgware trains run via CX. While Grindr may not be the most reliable source, what he told me around 2012 certainly seems to be coming true. 😊 Thanks for the great channel!

The main reason why people wanted the individual London Overground lines to have their own names, was that the TfL "Status update" page lists all the London Underground lines and says which have delays, but lumps London Overground into one line. So when you see "London Overground: Partial Closure" you don't know if that is the bit you are going to use, or a bit you are not going to go on. There have been similar calls for the DLR to be broken up. They will be asking for the trams to be broken up next.

If I was in charge of funding, I'd go with the Thameslink extension first. The people in Thamesmead have been screwed over as the housing was built with the idea of a rail link and then the rail link was pushed back again and again and again. It's criminal that Barking Riverside is an up-in-the-air station, instead of a station in a box, with the Overground doing both Thamemead and Abbey Wood, to link with Crossrail. They should have future proofed that route. As the industry is removed along the banks of the Thames, we need to have multiple railway tunnels to connect North East and South East London to maximise employment options for everyone in the East End. Anyhoo, I'd wave Goodbye to Becton and the Ringways London Highways Department car park and throw the DLR into a tunnel to Gallions Reach Park. You are right about the platforms being too short. TfL made that mistake when they build Canada Water London Overground Station. So I'd extend Barnham Drive into that unbuilt area and drop a big box into the ground, and put platforms in half the box and build a removable wall that can be pulled down to double the length of the platforms. (I would have exits both sides and link over the the housing estate on the other side of that unbuilt land. The rest of that unbuilt land should be converted into a park for the local people. It's doing nothing and could be good for leisure. But that's not part of the DLR, so I should get back to it. Whoever built everything in Thamemead stuck in a big duel carriageway with no pavements, called Western Way, so that's some baked in car dependency that needs to be sorted out. And the DLR is the perfect way to do that. I would hop up onto a DLR-style viaduct at the roundabout that links Western Way with Central, and build the entire thing on stilts on top of the Central Way to Linton Mead Primary School and then have the viaduct turn 90 degrees south along the A2041. The A2041 is a bit narrower, at first, but then it turns into a three-lane road, where there is plenty of space to narrow the road for pillars and stairs down from the raised station platforms. Then you get to go over an insane car-dependency roundabout over Eastern Way, where a station needs to straddle the communities on both sides of that road. And, if you keep building the DLR on stilts, it takes you all the way to Abbey Wood station! But, I would not stop there. I'd carry on going south. If you go a little bit further, there is a ton of unbuilt land, so you can leave the road and use that to go onto both Falconwood and Mottingham. There are a couple of bits where you have to wiggle around houses, but I think that a short tunnel would get the job done and unite all three of the branch lines into London Bridge from Dartford. And a few dead bodies might need to be moved from cemeteries, but living people are more important than dead people. I don't care about the exact route, but it would obviously need to close enough the the edges of the parkland to work as public transport, and give people on those other lines an option to switch to Crossrail at Abbey Wood, instead of going to London Bridge.

The reason for the Northern Line to be split is that the two separate lines could then have the sort of train frequencies have the Victoria Line has. The reason why it has not happened is that Camden Town Station can not cope with that many passengers trying to get off of one train and onto the other line. What is really needed is a new station with a big cross-platform interchange of trains. Imagine Canary Wharf but one side is the line to Edgware Road and the other side is the line to High Barnet. No interchange tunnels to the other train, you just get off, walk across a massive island platform and get onto the other train. And you need to stack two of those cross-platform interchanges one on top of the other. TfL wants to do this, but they need to knock down a bunch of stuff in Camden Town to make way for the new station. And while all the people who have shops in Camden Town would like to have a new station that is not so rubbish that it becomes exit only when it is busy, nobody wants to be the business that gets knocked down to make this happen. So NIMBYism has blocked the thing that everyone needs. I personally think they should close the entire road between Camden Town Station and Mornington Crescent Station for a few years and drop a big box, similar to the Paddington Crossrail station through the road and down to the Northern Line. It will be very painful for locals, for a few years, but once it is done, they can have a big fancy station, with two cross-platform interchanges, and the current entrances at Camden Town and Mornington Crescent can be converted into new accessible entrances to the new Camden Town and both of the old stations can be abandoned. Obviously they would need to put a lid onto the station, so the road can be brought back. But given how popular Camden Town is as a shopping area, there is no reason why they could not have a third entrance inbetween the current Camden Town and Mornington Crescent station entrances.

One of the problems we have in London is that the old Victorian railway companies, who built most of the railways into London were run by knob-heads who were all trying to put each other out of business. They tried to grab territory by making lots of different branches. But every time you split of a branch, you have to send some of the trains up that branch. And when the branches all come together on the mainline, you get a bottleneck. Plus the Victorian government really did not like the idea of railways coming into London. So we got a lot of terminal stations that could not do high frequency services to every commuter line. Eventually the British government was forced to merge all the railways into British Rail, to try to make the railways work together more effectively. And in London they handed over a bunch of railways to the London Passenger Transport Board instead. What happened with Crossrail taking over National Rail tracks and London Overground taking over National Rail tracks has previously happened with the Northern Line, Central Line and District Line taking over tracks that were originally owned by private railway companies or British Rail. (If you go exploring the London Underground stations in Outer London and check out the architecture, some of the stations are radically different from how London Underground stations look in Central London. There is even a website that shows historic railway lines and you can do stuff like see what the Hammersmith & City Line used to be called.) Anyhoo, we had some modernisation in London going on in the 20th Century and then World War I happened and it got paused. Then it got restarted and World War II happened and London Underground actually built bomb shelters instead of Underground lines. The bomb shelters were hoped to become new full-size deep level lines (similar to Crossrail) but that never happened. The "Northern Heights Program" in North West London got cut back. Central government kicked the can down the road again and again and again, on rail investment, both in London and elsewhere in the UK. Crossrail finally got the green light about 100 years after being first proposed. More stuff needs to be done. Giving the commuter lines over to Transport for London is just the first step. Crossrail 2 needs to happen. It is going to take some of the commuter lines that currently go to Waterloo and throw them into a tunnel near to Wimbledon Station. That will free up all the train slots those trains normally use at Waterloo and allow other trains to go into Waterloo instead. The same approach needs to eventually be done with the trains from South East London that terminate at Charring Cross. If they are dropped into a "Crossrail-like" tunnel on the approach to London Bridge, they can go to a line that does underground stations at Waterloo East and Charring Cross before passing through London and onto an underground station at Marylebone. The line could pop up north of Marylebone station and take over that line. So we could eventually have a bunch of "purple trains" that do the same thing as Crossrail and Thamelink, as well as a number of different coloured London Overground lines, that go in circular routes around London, so that people can go to other communities, without needing to go in and out. Check out the deep level National Rail line to Moorgate sometime. It's just begging to be extended into somewhere in South London. It's a fairly unused railway right now, but given some love it would be massively useful to Londoners. So giving all those railway lines to Transport for London means that the Mayor gets to listen to the people and put forward plans that help Londoners. And people can vote to change the Mayor of they are not happy. They can't vote to change the management of an operator like South Eastern. We have zero control of private operators and they try to push up ticket prices, so they can give more money to shareholders.

I hope you do not have a miniature tunnel boring machine in your arm. 😮

Thanks for the tour. Geoff Marshall did a similar video, but I think you showed the local area a bit better than he did. I think it's better that supermarkets with car parks get the kybosh than have people living in the area chucked out of their homes. I am a little bit worried about the bus station at Lewisham. Maybe they will demolish the big shopping warehouses to the left of Lewisham station and build a new bus station there.

BTW: The reasons why the Hayes line should be passed over entirely to the Bakerloo Line are: 1) Tube trains are lower than standard trains and the trackbed can be built up to make the line fully wheelchair accessible if network rail trains are got rid of and 2) Having too many branches out of London Bridge leads to lower train frequencies for all the branch lines coming out of London Bridge. Getting rid of one branch allows the other branches to get more slots into London Bridge station per hour. Check out the way that the New Works Program of the 1930s transferred branch lines away from the District Line to the Piccadilly Line and transferred two branchlines away from the Metropolitan Railway to the Bakerloo Line (with one later being transferred onto the Jubilee Line). Literally every time you split a railway into branches it causes problems timetabling the two branches coming together onto one line. South East London is a hot mess with a lot of parallel railway lines that converge together. And that means that people in those parts of London have a far lower train frequency than people living on the Victoria Line, where the line does just one thing with no branches and the trains can run 90 seconds behind each other. If the Hayes line is broken away from network rail and connected only to the Bakerloo Line, the train frequency can rise to the frequency of the Bakerloo Line. So what passengers loose in the speed to London Bridge would be made up by not having to wait for Bakerloo Line trains. We would presumably also be getting new Bakerloo Line trains, which might be able to go a bit faster, as well as having good air conditioning. If you look at the Four Lines Modernisation Project, where the subsurface lines got semi-automated trains, I think that sort of signalling system would be part of a project to extend the Bakerloo Line, because the line would need to be re-signaled anyway and new trains would need to be ordered anyway. So why not do the job properly? Maybe they might even put in platform edge doors, so that the new underground stations stay cool at platform level. At the very least I would expect passive provision.

We just got a new government and the Parliamentary Petitions have all be cancelled until a new Petitions Committee is chosen. But I really think you should start a petition for central government to fund the Bakerloo Line being extended all the way to Hayes. Jago Hazzard says the Bakerloo Line Extension has been cancelled 26 times!: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mM5kYKt9qauvhqs.html I think the people of South East London deserve to get their own direct connection to central London.

If London Underground replace Lidl with Old Kent Road, that means that Aldi will have a Monopoly on the area. 🤪

There ironing board seats

I like the 707s and I once again traveled on SWR's 2 class 707 sets 3 days ago. When you are on a SWR station then a pair of 707s roll in that is a very good day as you can say that you traveled on the one of it's kind of train with SWR.

No class 720 is the best

Me as a south Londoner my personal favourite bus routes are 64,130,314,664,359,654,433, 466,353,SL7,SL5 ,

Thank you for this informative and interesting video. It has given me a better understanding of how electricity is conveyed to electric trains. You are well informed on this topic.

What? The 800s aren't 'built' in Japan. They are *designed* in Japan and *built* in Newton Ayecliffe, Durham (3 miles from me). Some components come from Japan but the sheet metals and much of the train fabrication is made with British resources and employees. These trains are more British than they are Japanese... that's why the build quality is poor! I do agree with you about the narrowing of variety on the UK network. But the point about Class 800s being 'Japanese' is moot I'm afraid.

Simple: charing cross line and bank line

southern line would be the worst name to xall ot 'take the southern line one stop from balham' 'wandsworth common, streatham common, streatham hill, clapham south or tooting bec?'

Nice Clothing With The 465 On It 👍

Southeastern have just announced that they're taking bids for replacement of the 465s

You clearly don't understand the problems with Hydrogen. Hydrogen buses don't have time to refuel during the day, and battery buses don't need to. And we do not have the energy to green produce Hydrogen with, hence all FCEV do not use green Hydrogen today. BEV efficiency means there are CO2 saving even if the electricity is produced by centralised fossil fuel plants. Anyone who compares the costs properly throws out Hydrogen.

I think Southeastern wants to get rid of these. Networkers, obviously, not my favourite but in my opinion, most encouraging, more energetic then the later electrostars turbostars and even the eventras and irreplaceable.

Probably the 745s. As long as we agree that they are both fictional, comical and almost half as likeable as the trains of the past.

Possibly one of the most confusing things on the c2c trains are the carriage maps as it shows that there are lines to Fenchurch Street via Stratford which I assume the empty area when passing Bethnal Green was a line towards Fenchurch Street before the London Overground ran to Highbury and Islington. It’s just a theory tho, don’t take it seriously. But someone please explain why that line is on the carriage map please.

Loved this video, a lot of videos talking about the Hitachi class 80x's/810's, most of them take them on face value and sometimes fail to appreciate the fact that, as you point out, they are still good units, and ultimately seeing an intercity replacement scheme on this level is unheard of, only really the HSTs caused such a widespread national impact on services in terms of stock replacement/upgrade as the AT300's (Model name for the 80x's/810's), I liked how you did ultimately talk about it as an enthusiast too, it's dissapointing yet understandable, although there are some potentially more inventive and innovative solutions. And don't listen to anyone who says you can't wear a hat indoors

I kinda nerd out on these things and this was super helpful. You're amazing

The extension to Euston and Victoria would be quite useful if it were not for the expenses. srfurley already mentioned how the DLR couldn’t fit in the Charing Cross Tunnels. If it wasn’t for tunnelling expenses and other problems, including building under properties, you could revive Charing Cross Jubilee into a secondary branch of the Jubilee Line that links to Bank with Temple and Blackfriars being extra stations in between which not only links with the DLR at Bank but provides a little connection to the District and Circle Lines on the way. Whether that is a waste of resources or not, it possibly might be the former. Though what do I know.

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It depends on what IKEA has in stock at the time and has anyone used the ironing board seats to iron their clothes yet?

SWR kept 2 class 707 units to make one service train of 10 coaches. I went on this extremely rare train with SWR last night in which it showed that my train had 10 coaches so I thought I would be on a 458 or maybe a chance to ride a 701 but 707024/030 appeared so that I was on the one of it's kind on SWR. I don't know how often that the 707 on SWR goes out but it's a gem to ride it

Electric trains are virtually non existent in North America. This is especially true if you don't count trams, trolleys, metros/subways, and light rail systems. India, meanwhile, has achieved over 90% Electric power on its entire rail network of approximately 68,000 kilometers of mainline rail. If India can do this then the US, Canada, and Australia have absolutely no excuses for still relying almost entirely on diesel engines. Its a national embarrassment for these countries and they will pay for it when the next major oil crisis hits. Which will definitely come soon possibly even this year.

CrossCountry can't replace Voyager's with 800s everywhere, not until all the lines are electrified. Yes the 801 has a diesel engine but it can't go very fast.

Everything in Manchester will soon be yellow.

The enviro 400s ev have nice motor sounds too!!

Missed you too, mate!! great vid. I prefer electric btw

I Love southeastern class 465, class 375 and 377’s

They should use an ICE with hydrogen, just like JCB (they retrofitted their engine into a truck).

@networknathan 10 of the 805s are on testing now and some are on drviver training

Keep making videos Nathan your enthusiasm is fantastic. . Personally don’t like the 465/466 units they run out of Tonbridge my station much prefer the 375s more comfortable

This was a very clear explanation.

Another fact: Some bus routes have less frequency than others, for example the 347 which runs from Romford (i think) to Ockendon is Londons least frequent route