They were just a bit slow to turn off. They went out a few seconds later.

@@weatherdan882002 Ah okay: nice to know that panel's apparently in fine working order.

@@TheCarson116 EST gets a bad rap a lot, but the vast majority of our systems have zero issues. When they do have issues, it's because others have had their hands on it and messed things up, especially general contractors or other non-EST companies.

@@weatherdan882002 My thoughts exactly: don't judge a book by its cover as they say.

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As I mentioned below, EST gets a bad rap a lot, but the vast majority of our systems have zero issues. When they do have issues, it's because others have had their hands on it and messed things up, especially general contractors or other non-EST companies.

@@weatherdan882002 I definitely know fly by night companies is one of the reasons for bad installs. That can make any brand of fire alarm systems look worse than they actually are. I do also know that the county doesn’t really proactively maintain their fire alarm systems. False alarms due to dirty sensors I’ve found are quite common in the school system as the middle school wasn’t the only school with complaints of sensitive devices. In fact, when I actually got my 4100U system with various devices, I had to clean each detector as they were full of dust and extra filthy. Plus, after the EST3 system was properly serviced by southern signal, the EST3 system gave no more problems until a vandal recently fried a smoke detector by splashing water on it. I know this information about the current states of the systems as I’ve been keeping contact with the school system as I’ve been making arrangements to help once again with fire drills (I stopped after graduation but have made arrangements to start helping again) and maybe pursue an apprenticeship with the electricians (similar to nics systems and electric). To be completely honest, I definitely jumped the gun a little too early and didn’t look at the big picture (which of course I never had the mindset of looking at the big picture as back then I was still a kid). I’m slowly but shurely starting to see Edwards in a better picture again. I like what they did with the EST4 even though I don’t want to like it because of the shenanigans with my old middle school’s system that I experienced.

@@weatherdan882002fly by night companies definitely play a part in bad systems. It can make any brand of system perform badly when an inexperienced technician sets up things or performs maintenance. When I was in k12, I’ve always noticed time and time again that the county doesn’t do preventive maintenance on detectors and usually waits until a detector dirty trouble ends up on the panel. Plus, all schools see, to complain of sensitive devices and I’ve noticed everywhere that the detectors are visibly dirty and have dust all over them. I’m definitely leaning now more towards user error and definitely think that I was a little too quick to judge the system instead of looking at the big picture. Of course, I was younger and obviously not as experienced with this kind of equipment as I am now so that’s probably where my bad judgement came in. I do know the system did have a lot of issues and would consistently go into false alarms before it was finally fixed recently by a licensed Edwards partner company known as Southern Signal (the county electrician told me that when I asked a while back when I got the 4100U system they uninstalled during an upgrade). The system as of recently worked perfectly and hadn’t caused any issues until a vandal poured water on a smoke sensor which isn’t really the fault of the system. I’m starting to think Edwards aint as bad as I thought they were. I’m even liking the new EST4 panel based on what I’ve heard even though I don’t want to like it.

fly by night companies definitely play a part in bad systems. It can make any brand of system perform badly when an inexperienced technician sets up things or performs maintenance. When I was in k12, I’ve always noticed time and time again that the county doesn’t do preventive maintenance on detectors and usually waits until a detector dirty trouble ends up on the panel. Plus, all schools see, to complain of sensitive devices and I’ve noticed everywhere that the detectors are visibly dirty and have dust all over them. I’m definitely leaning now more towards user error and definitely think that I was a little too quick to judge the system instead of looking at the big picture. Of course, I was younger and obviously not as experienced with this kind of equipment as I am now so that’s probably where my bad judgement came in. I do know the system did have a lot of issues and would consistently go into false alarms before it was finally fixed recently by a licensed Edwards partner company known as Southern Signal (the county electrician told me that when I asked a while back when I got the 4100U system they uninstalled during an upgrade). The system as of recently worked perfectly and hadn’t caused any issues until a vandal poured water on a smoke sensor which isn’t really the fault of the system. I’m starting to think Edwards aint as bad as I thought they were. I’m even liking the new EST4 panel based on what I’ve heard even though I don’t want to like it.

@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 The only thing I don't like about the 4 is that the "Fire Drill" button is between the "Panel Silence" and "Alarm Silence" buttons, making it easy to be accidentally pressed, and that will activate all outputs, even if they've been disabled. That can be disastrous in a network, such as at a college campus (that'll send a drill signal to each panel and thereby evacuate an entire campus). There is a bright side: the drill button is customizable so it doesn't have to be used as a drill button. There's also fewer LEDs along the top. IMO, they should have kept the EST3X display and simply gotten rid of the dial and made it touchscreen (the 3X had no drill button).

Say what?

@weatherdan882002 yea we saw the video EST Fire Fighter Telephone of the Control Panel

@@weatherdan882002It’s a weird new york fire code thing.

No, I believe it's just 500Hz (the standard low frequency tone is 520Hz).

@@weatherdan882002I’m pretty sure it’s about 650-675hz.