$1,000 Lincoln Electric Ranger 250 Won't Weld. Can I Fix It?

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I picked up this Ranger 250 welder on FB Marketplace, let's build a welding rig!
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0:00 Lincoln Electric Ranger 250
3:534 What's wrong with the welder?
4:47 Will it weld?
14:06 Welding trailer
15:16 Two computers...
17:04 Mobile welding cabinet
18:54 Finding centre of gravity
22:46 Paint it black
25:47 Final assembly
30:00 What's next?
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@DHMFSSIHTA 10 ай бұрын

Looks great! One thing, every welder on every service truck ever faces backwards. One thing you might want to consider with trailering it is all the rain, snow, and rocks that will be kicked up and thrown at the face of your machine.

@The-Deadbolt-Deputy 10 ай бұрын

I absolutely love how you built this thing. “Sometimes you can engineer somethin till your blue in the face “ I 100 percent agree. Some of my best builds have been “on the fly”. Thanks Rich

@robwigglezz944 10 ай бұрын

Id like to see inside the "computer" to see if its repairable. Our right to repair our stuff is under attack daily

@stevenberg1903 10 ай бұрын

I thought US farmers won the "right to repair" lawsuit against green?? Maybe not in Canukistan??

@DatBoiOrly 10 ай бұрын

it's actually a very easy board to work on most of the components are marked and can be sourced from the web

@robwigglezz944 10 ай бұрын

@@stevenberg1903 that's just one bill. Auto manufacturers have a loophole that all diagnostic data is transferred wirelessly so it doesn't fall under any current bills.

@theSam91 10 ай бұрын

The one they replaced on the center divider panel is completely potted in about 1/2" of rubber/resin. There's no feasible way to get to the components to probe test points or de-solder/soler on new components.

@tylerrussell4143 10 ай бұрын

Lincoln sets those boards in a plastic tray and then encases them in potting material about 1/2 an inch thick for moisture resistance. There is no simple way to just replace components on those boards

@ki4fbl 10 ай бұрын

FYI that thing you called a fuse is known as a shunt. current flows through it and at a certain point (the smaller wires) you can measure a voltage across the shunt which is proportional to the amount of current flowing through it. exactly how the old charge and discharge meters work in old cars and trucks and also some lawnmowers and tractors

@javionsmith6818 10 ай бұрын

Are shunts just mosfets?

@ayitsyaboi 10 ай бұрын

@@javionsmith6818 Shunts are just big resistors.

@TechOne7671 10 ай бұрын

Shunts are low resistance links used for measuring high currents with small volt meters. As current passes thru them a voltage proportional the current flowing appears on the measuring terminals which is read by a volt meter. Simple ohms law arrangement.

@RinkyDinky-dj1co 10 ай бұрын

FYI a 100 dollar welder does this work Canucks got more dollars than sense

@Flying0Dismount 10 ай бұрын

@@ayitsyaboiThey are usually physically big, but very small value resistors.. You put them in series with your output and because they are such small value, they don't affect the output by much, but they still need to be physically big to carry all the current. Their resistance value is usually very small fractions of a Ohm, but when multiplied by the potentially 150-200 Amp current that the welder can source, will still develop a volt or two across the resistor that can be accurately measured as an indication of the actual current flowing...

@nikkicarlson8511 10 ай бұрын

What you were playing with there was the current shunt, the two wires measure the voltage drop across the shunt to determine the current. They're in a twisted pair "squiggly" to reduce induced voltages from adjacent wires -interference.

@harambeexpress 10 ай бұрын

Needs some sort of flap to put over the welder controls so that if it's being pulled on the cart and it rains that water doesn't get into the electronics. Also some reflective strips would be a good idea.

@tylerrussell4143 10 ай бұрын

The second computer is the the one with the big red capacitors mounted to the giant heat sink on the other side of the center baffle. The one that was replaced is the control board or basically the low power brain of the welder. The other one is called the chopper assembly and does all the high power grunt work of the weld power. The chopper assembly can be thought of basically like a simple inverter welder.

@DGHD 10 ай бұрын

Thanks man!

@elliottdiedrich3068 9 ай бұрын

I have the same welder with the exact same problem with less than 200 hrs on it. Can that control board be repaired?

@dusty1498 9 ай бұрын

@@elliottdiedrich3068 People sell new and repaired boards for rangers

@maddthomas 10 ай бұрын

That van is sweeeeeeeet, he could sleep in it too, maybe he could take a nap parked down by a river.

@DGHD 10 ай бұрын

the dream, to live in a van down by the river, that has a welder in it

@maddthomas 10 ай бұрын

@@DGHD RIP Matt Foley

@The-Deadbolt-Deputy 10 ай бұрын

Rich , that was cool that you thought to test the welding lead after you had turned the machine off and it was winding down. You got awesome troubleshooting instincts.

@DGHD 10 ай бұрын

Thanks man

@4X4F250Diesel 10 ай бұрын

That is why I like miller you call tech and they will walk you through diagnosing the welder.

@jaydunbar7538 10 ай бұрын

Lincoln probably does as well, but talking to customer service doesn’t make for very good video. Some of us also like to poke at it ourselves before calling just because we like to tinker, I do agree Miller makes a great machine my multimatic 220 ac/dc is an awesome machine.

@Watchyn_Yarwood 10 ай бұрын

@@jaydunbar7538 👍👍

@Look_What_You_Did 10 ай бұрын

Lincoln will try to assist as well. I could call up three different weld suppliers in my area and they would all do what they could. I run Miller and ESAB.

@jasonthompson9817 10 ай бұрын

The computer is actually “repairable”….our shop had similar model but bit smaller, same issue. We repaired it for $340.00. Took it apart, shunt short fused a couple of resisters. Always a pleasure…cheers from the Limestone City…(Kingston)

@DGHD 10 ай бұрын

Thanks man! I know ECI, the company that made my Tape Boss fixed a couple boards for tractors as well. I just didn't have time to run to Toronto

@philbert006 10 ай бұрын

The capacitor should have probably been the first thing you repaired. They are ultra cheap, ultra easy to change out just a little solder, and it sparkling as it winds down but not when running seems indicative of a capacitor not being able to discharge it's stored charge to start the weld. Of course, that capacitor was on the board you replaced. And yeah, they would do everything in their power to sell you some proprietary horse shit for big bucks rather than replacing a cap that costs probably $0.60 retail and about three minutes of labor and consumables.

@brynyard 8 ай бұрын

That board is potted and a proper pain to do any servicing on. Hence the "proprietary" fault seeking (it basically involves bending over and asking Lincoln how to put it in).

@merlepatterson 10 ай бұрын

Nice job. The only thing I might have suggested is a hinged rain cover bolted to the frame, then you don't have to worry about sudden storms soaking your welder or going down the exhaust pipe.

@Look_What_You_Did 10 ай бұрын

That's what a rain cap is for....

@anomamos9095 10 ай бұрын

Suggestions Get some trailer hitch sized tube and put some receivers in convenient places around the frame to place a detachable vice and work bench. If you use trailer hitch material you can also move the vice and bench to other vehicles.

@minnesotatomcat 10 ай бұрын

Aren’t those gas powered chop saws just the best thing ever? Nothing else cuts metal like that 👍

@soloban81 7 ай бұрын

Ya but the pucker factor is high when you’re the one holding it.

@sshep7119 10 ай бұрын

That being an older unit, I would bet the computer is repairable. Judging by that capacitor and the rest of the unit, likely just a surface mounted component. Even the boards with all the potting compounds can be dealt with and repaired, if you have the tools time and know how to do the diagnosis and repair. The more modern stuff is a whole other bag of cat lady crazy, way to many micro components and multilayer PCBs to even begin a trace. Things get better with technology but get worse at the same time. I would bet the old school Hobart with a Willies jeep engine still runs to this day, didn't really run the best down low but for dragline repair it got the job done. Good on you for helping the football clubs.

@minnesotatomcat 10 ай бұрын

People can laugh all they want, my daily driver is a 97 mercury villager van and I love it. They got comfortable captains chairs, plenty of room to fill the back with whatever shit needs hauled, and you can generally pick up minivans really cheap cause nobody else wants them anymore 👍

@kevenhiemie 10 ай бұрын

Turbo cans are awesome. I painted all the doors and trim in my house with them.

@ryanroberts1104 10 ай бұрын

Due to various things I was busy with, I had to have a shop change the water pump on my truck. That's the only time I've ever had anything fixed...I didn't even know what to expect! I felt so dirty handing over my keys...

@Aspire198 10 ай бұрын

Thats a bloody awesome setup. Very jealous of having the space and the forklift to be able to swao stuff over like this so easily/quickly without breaking backs

@braaapattack2937 10 ай бұрын

I’d say this video is def taken more then a few months of time to put together, that or winter is coming faster then I realized 🤣 and then summer showed up in record time 🙃🙃🙃

@IR-nq4qv 10 ай бұрын

Hey Rich, can we see some updates on the VW square back conversion? That looked like a start to a great street rod build, would love to see more of it. thanks in advance

@Flying0Dismount 10 ай бұрын

Rich - that welder is multiprocess and can do wire MIG, stick, as well as TIG (just need to add a spool gun and TIG torch), so you should have left space on the cart for two gas bottles (Ar and Ar/CO2) to do the other processes.. Makes it much more versatile than just a stick welder...

@TheIznog 9 ай бұрын

The other processes are usually pretty poor outside where this thing will most likely operate for most of its life. There are better machines to use inside where you have access to AC power.

@carlcarlamos9055 Ай бұрын

Outside you can use Innershield. Take care.

@mcbarber5108 10 ай бұрын

“Thought it was red not green” 😂

@madcat4563 10 ай бұрын

That capacitor looked suspicious on the old circuit board.... It looks like it leaked and damaged other components or traces. Damn, that spray can is impressive.

@IR-nq4qv 10 ай бұрын

Nice portable unit, functional, clean and tidy, it needs nothing else only someone to head down, ass up and burn a few 7018's

@mattzeitz7072 10 ай бұрын

Also as somebody else mentioned, and don’t know about Lincoln but in my experience Miller tech support has been excellent. They don’t give you to a customer service person, put in a ticket, etc, I’ve gotten right through to tech who gave me tips on what to check and what readings should be etc. I’ve always run Miller gear, blue all the way for me, FWIW

@Watchyn_Yarwood 10 ай бұрын

Nice result there. Suggestion: Put a custom 8 or 9ft bed on the F350. I saw an F350 crew cab in west Texas with an 8ft bed. Kinda long but cool!

@Adam-hr8fp 10 ай бұрын

I’ve owned multiple ranger 305s and Miller 302 and usually the computer blows up when you turn machine on while jump starting the dead battery.

@lucilleking7495 9 ай бұрын

Hi Rich, Didn't have to worry about welding flash, But the light shinning of the back of your head was blinding. Ha Ha Gord

@larrydavidson3402 10 ай бұрын

That turned out to be a pretty nice setup. I enjoy watching you take some old things and making things out of it. Nice part it always turns out looking great.

@mylifeisdope916 10 ай бұрын

Guy had a few trailblazers and two bobcats on Craigslist. Tbs were 400 and the bcs were 300. I obviously wanted the diesel one even though they were clearly missing parts and needed some money input but by the time I got there there was only 1 bobcat left. Didn't even look at it, just threw it in my moms minivan and off I went. Annold timer told me once to spin a corded drill backwards and itll remagnitize something in somewhere so i did it. It worked. I haven't put a dime into that bobcat aside from gas. Same battery since like 04. That little thing starts every time, welds great, a/c works. Case is a bit banged up but I love that old bobcat. Probably have more hours on that than my pipe pro 400!

@Cantthinkofahandle117 10 ай бұрын

The backwards drill thing sounds interesting, I'd love to know what exactly it does.

@mylifeisdope916 10 ай бұрын

@@Cantthinkofahandle117 i don't even remember if it had to be backwards. I think it re-excites the field windings? I think it only worked on old generators and welders

@WBOS72 10 ай бұрын

Amazing Job Rich. Love the budget builds.

@jaydunbar7538 10 ай бұрын

Mini vans really are the handiest of vehicles, and somehow no matter how many time I break my truck the wife’s van is always in good working order lol she tells me it’s because she doesn’t do burn out with it like I do with my truck, but it’s gotta be something else.

@christophniggli4750 10 ай бұрын

It really has to be something else😂😂

@tomcleghorn4005 10 ай бұрын

Nice video. And I liked the green reference

@mitchhero3689 9 ай бұрын

Lol@"The paint she told you not to worry about. "😂

@nickdevost 9 ай бұрын

That’s one of my favourite videos in a while. Love seeing you problem solve, it helps me when I run into similar stuff

@Routh-family-farms 4 ай бұрын

Rich ive spent the last few months fixing up a old miller trailblazer302 that had same symptoms as your ranger. Ended up being a messed up circuit board. Send them to a fella name frank heizler he fixed them up just as good and cost 1/3 as buying new boards. I recommend not jump starting yours as it caused damage to my boards and what caused the issues.

@Large_Sarge 9 ай бұрын

Damn. Red not green. Shots fired.

@kymw7833 10 ай бұрын

Rich who doesnt love making something out of nothing really enjoyed this one ,not a real fan of the Kohler air cooled motor they dont like the heat here in Australia,hope you left a big enough gap between the cabinet and the welder for air intake ,my experience is if they dont get enough air they fuel vapourise probably not any worries in your colder temps.But really enjoyed this one Cheers kym Adelaide

@Dagrond 10 ай бұрын

That's a great trailer, especially when you start kicking rocks into the face of the welder. It will give you something else to do.

@CloudHindlen 10 ай бұрын

That Kitty looks Beautiful with that old Lincoln on the back. Thanks Rich for letting us tag along in your adventure. 😂

@richardwaite4795 10 ай бұрын

The Clark 125c your neighbor has that I you have used in the pass I think When I work at Clark Equipment In the 70's and 80's most likely work on.

@user-sp8tr2ti1e 10 ай бұрын

Amazing Job Rich. Love the budget builds.. Amazing Job Rich. Love the budget builds..

@dob1662 10 ай бұрын

Hey Rich I bought site unseen a 1943 Hobart welder for next to nothing, the engine needed top end work but the gen welder is awesome, they don't make em like that anymore, 👍

@Cantthinkofahandle117 10 ай бұрын

I'm 50. When I was little, my grandfather had a welder that was older than dirt. I don't know what brand it was because all the paint and any labels were long gone. It was shaped like an old icebox, about 4' tall. I never used it but my dad said it welded super nice. The quality of old equipment like that is hard to beat.

@EddieTheGrouch 10 ай бұрын

It may be a trick of the light or angle but it looks like one of the big red capacitors is bulged at top (defective) at 4:05 upper left cap.

@Rokonroller 9 ай бұрын

Excellent work bud👊 too much fun 🤩

@emmajacobs5575 10 ай бұрын

The difference between a good job and a great one might be an hour, but perfection is the enemy of done

@BitterCynical 10 ай бұрын

The curse of absolutely proprietary electronics. A "repair" is an entire circuit board swap when often the broken component costs cents and the labor cost of a board repair tech is like 10% of that new circuit board. Something I hope will become more popular with time is to repair equipment like this welder by replacing the proprietary electronics with open source alternatives.

@theglitch99 10 ай бұрын

Its ALWAYS the COMPUTER on most things (never cheap) so lets put more computers in things!

@bert123456789 10 ай бұрын

You need more tongue weight on the trailer. It will sway bad when towing. Thanks for the great content!

@sparksmobilerepair4025 10 ай бұрын

Haha I picked up my first generator welder in my then girlfriend now wife's jeep Cherokee like that. Had to cut the lifting eye off the top to slide it in too. Good times lol.

@alphonsotate2982 9 ай бұрын

Beautiful welding trailer great project great work

@hubertrobinson8825 6 ай бұрын

Damn it works for looking pretty good too nice job

@Steve_Smith_OFB 9 ай бұрын

" thought it was red not green......." Classic dig at John deer. Lol

@Michagan_outdoorsman_James 10 ай бұрын

aw man i have this same machine with the onan powerplant and absolutely love it. its a straight work horse. your gonna love that thing my friend. this will be very helpful if i ever have to peform surgery on mine

@ForfeMac 10 ай бұрын

The onan engines work great, until they don't. Then they're super expensive to fix, if you can even gets the parts in the first place. Kohler and Honda are all I'll trust in equipment any more

@williambigham6678 4 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the eddison conversion. That way, you can run a 3 phase welder with the engine .using only the truck

@mikehill9888 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@kirkoglesby6175 10 ай бұрын

Sweet little setup

@martyworley5427 10 ай бұрын

Great job and another awesome video

@jimmy6754 10 ай бұрын

Lovely dog, it's lucky the welder did work when you where trying, because your dog would of got a flash in the eyes, love the video, keep up there good work👍

@tuffy16 10 ай бұрын

If it idles up with grinder but not when trying to weld its the Reed switch

@maxst2 9 ай бұрын

not just a welding truck, a service truck!

@geraldgepes 9 ай бұрын

Rich, long time no see man, just wanted to say that the shop overhaul sure looks like it came out great!

@rsmith8646 10 ай бұрын

Definitely should do an old Fargo!! Don't see those very often

@dmc2554 10 ай бұрын

sweet also, your house band has come a long way....James Brown himself would praise that "funky drummer" version of theirs, ask them if I'm right ...I'm sure they're proud of their accomplishment! Talk about them some time!!

@nealfry7403 10 ай бұрын

The rpms should drop after it fires up, you got something drawing keeping the idle too high. It should only Rev high while you're welding or running a hand tool. Ours done that n the board was shot.

@DGHD 10 ай бұрын

Done!

@bryanbeasley7055 10 ай бұрын

Looks good and it functions 👍

@mattbowser5274 10 ай бұрын

I have the same one same thing thanks

@douglasthompson2740 10 ай бұрын

A soft top to keep the weather off that rolls up so the unit can stay cool while in use??

@troyadams1076 10 ай бұрын

Looks great 👍🏻

@grapenutz5931 10 ай бұрын

Cool rig. But you may want to flip it around. I built one like this and had to flip it because the truck was always throwing stuff al over the front of the welder.

@johnlowther4068 10 ай бұрын

Good point, another option would be get a boat shop to make a nice cover with snaps for travel and storage

@williamthomas9463 10 ай бұрын

You’re exactly correct. That’s why it amazes me that Lincoln chose to build the new Ranger 330 MPX with a non-rotatable exhaust elbow that points straight out the back of the machine so when mounted properly on a trailer or truck, the elbow is pointed straight into the weather and the bugs and road grit. Extremely poor design. I love my Lincoln Ranger 305G’s and currently own my third one but I only kept my 330 MPX for one month. It was riddled with poor design from one end of the machine to the other.

@grooveguy 10 ай бұрын

Cool project Rich. Hey are you guys planning on coming over to Vancouver Island by any chance on the foreseeable future????

@TechOne7671 10 ай бұрын

Quality again Rich, quality.

@andrewrobinson2869 10 ай бұрын

I hope you got the old computer board. It was probably just a few resistors and things that needed replacing and they hit you up for a whole new board, I am sure a electrical technician could of found the issue and fixed the old board, be handy to have as a spare.

@drakokamikaze8823 10 ай бұрын

They pot the boards with some type of epoxy so if can't be fixed.

@antagonizerr 10 ай бұрын

I could see right off the bat that one of the red monster caps was bloated. That's some bad juju right there.

@BIllMcCambridge 10 ай бұрын

Might wanna put a door across the front to protect the front of welder from debris kicked up from truck tires while towing. Thanks for sharing your talents and adventures!!!

@jakewitts5469 10 ай бұрын

“I thought it was red not green” Ha! I feel that deep in my soul…

@user-cb2ep3fd9c 4 ай бұрын

Maybe this is because I come from europe, but can someone explain? I understand that red is for Lincol Electric... but green?

@jakewitts5469 4 ай бұрын

@@user-cb2ep3fd9cJohn Deere is really bad for allowing owners/operators access to repair information for their equipment. They only want you to bring your machines to the dealer to get fixed.

@christopherday210 10 ай бұрын

I think you did good at 2500 for that welder I have a similar with the better subaru robin engine and I'd want something like 3500 for it of course every thing worx had amsoil in it since first oil change and the hours are low like 700. B acknowledged when these were new they were 5000 to 5500 I think now a new one is like 7000-8000 something to consider. Not to mention quick cash your trailers prolly worth 500-600 bucks so yeah ide say you did real good coming in under three grand painted and all. Flex coat makes a epoxy rubber paint if you buy a quart white and a quart black you can mix any color gray you want. Works great for the sheet metal.

@corey4109 10 ай бұрын

Im not a ford guy, not in the slightest, but damn i really like that truck

@Cantthinkofahandle117 10 ай бұрын

💯 I'm neither a Ford guy but that truck looks great and is really bad-ass with the CAT. I used to be a GM brand loyalist. Everything else was shit, but then I grew up. I now appreciate that every brand has good and bad. I really don't like Dodge but I drive a RAM 1500 for work. Ugly as sin but runs and drives really nice. If you like the way it looks and it does what you want, more power to you.

@wcmwfab935 10 ай бұрын

Great machine. Run one to this day.

@marke.howerter-american526 9 ай бұрын

That Cat F 350 is the coolest truck ever

@jatomlin1991 9 ай бұрын

I live in Texas... I'd love to be able to paint things black without knowing my skins going to be boiled off if I touch it. 😂

@anthonyblacker8471 9 ай бұрын

It's ok to make fun of the soccer mom van as a work truck, but about 5 years ago I moved into a 2004 Honda Odyssey I got free (no engine lights or anything man, it runs so nice, ac works it's got heat all the power nonsense still works but it's got over 300k miles now oh well) anyway, I have NO wet tools, I can lock my doors - it's all tinted glass in the back so nobody can see in anyway - it gets 22mpg on the highway, I still have 2 captains seats in the back so I can take my boys to work when I need to, you know or school if it's one of those days, man.. I love my van as my work truck. I'm mostly a mechanic and a home repair person (I do computers and a/v as well, but that's special) and man the van is a o k. I don't' care I have a truck but I don't need to fit in anymore, I'm too old to care about what other 'guys' think of my car now.

@kimblastein 10 ай бұрын

Hey ritch when it comes to the trailer for the welder 2 axels is better then 1

@randydobson1863 10 ай бұрын

hello dghd it's is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks friends randy

@dalelyons4366 10 ай бұрын

I had a ranger 305 , made me a lot of money…👍🇬🇧

@corwinderuiter3619 10 ай бұрын

Ya, Fargo

@flatlandwelder 10 ай бұрын

Need fire extinguisher, grinder, extension cord, small ladder, vise, and welding rods. Soon to add torch, chop saw and sunshade, ice chest. A good start for this endeavor.

@jimmystuckey1412 10 ай бұрын

The hydraulics on that skid loader are awesome. They haven't drooped a bit

@Havsskog 10 ай бұрын

Yes, Fargo truck go go go !!!

@YoDooDSup 9 ай бұрын

I really wish he still uploaded videos of doing engine jobs, transmission, clutches and such on big rigs and the like. I would binge watch that stuff so much. But now I watched it too much. I’m talking 5-7 years ago or so.

@coltonmcrae5873 10 ай бұрын

I love that multimeter. I've had the same one for about 10 years.

@DGHD 10 ай бұрын

It is awesome

@NBSV1 10 ай бұрын

In reality mini vans can be great utility vehicles. They just don’t inflate the ego like a big macho truck. Always funny to me since so many modern trucks have dinky little beds.

@johnathangetty6116 10 ай бұрын

Maybe go with 3 or 4 lift points. As you load/unload the cabinet ......

@adambrewer4400 10 ай бұрын

I have one of those machines it's fantastic and mine cost a lot more than that, what a deal

@mattzeitz7072 10 ай бұрын

I bought a surplus Miller inverter multiprocess machine a few years ago. I don’t know anything about this machine but what they call computers are probably just circuit boards with components and a few basic IC’s on it. In my case it was a resistor that had failed, had a fried contractor and I went ahead and changed out the big caps since those can be a common failure point. Side note, it always scares the hell out of me working on electronics with capacitors as they can store quite a bit of energy for a while and can knock you on your ass even with the machine off and unplugged. I always discharge the caps through a resistor before poking around.

@kevenhiemie 10 ай бұрын

It'd be really cool to see Rat Rod old Mack model B welding truck build.