1 TRICK To Hunt Better: Advice From A Pro

1 TRICK To Hunt Better: Advice From A Pro - Season 2: Episode 91

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Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! In this episode, I talk with Erik Cortina about long-range shooting. Cortina is a professional F-Class shooter and has been competing since 2008. He has one suggestion that will make you a better hunter, in this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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All loading, handloading, gunsmithing, shooting and associated activities and demonstrations depicted in our videos are conducted by trained, certified, professional gun handlers, instructors, and shooters for instructional and entertainment purposes only with emphasis on safety and responsible gun handling. Always check at least 3 industry handloading manuals for handloading data, 2 or 3 online ballistic calculators for ballistic data. Do not modify any cartridge or firearm beyond what the manufacturer recommends. Do not attempt to duplicate, mimic, or replicate anything you see in our videos. Firearms, ammunition, and constituent parts can be extremely dangerous if not used safely.

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@ErikCortina Жыл бұрын

Thanks for having me on Ron. I had a great time.

@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast Жыл бұрын

Thanks for being on the show! I enjoyed our conversation.

@waynesides2626 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for reaffirming the same beliefs I've been taught and have taught others. The software is still the most important piece of equipment you have in the field. Great job!

@Buckeyesully Жыл бұрын

Two of my favorite channels!!!

@Master...deBater Жыл бұрын

My God what a great podcast...thank you so much Erik! This footage should be required viewing for ALL up and coming hunters. All this long range hunting propaganda out there trying to convince new hunters that shooting big game at extreme distances is somehow ethical is absolutely sickening! It's a tribute to your character that your first priority is to the ethical treatment of the animals you hunt. You are an absolute class act...best of luck in all your endeavors.

@Michael-hm8cs Жыл бұрын

Legend. edit: I hope that the competition is held in Cape Town as I will definitely check it out then.

@sha6mm Жыл бұрын

This was a awesome show Erik and Ron. Something I do believe is someone will learn a lot more in one year of competition shooting than a hunter will in 20 years. Who noticed Ron’s eye’s light up with .284 Win.

@Trythis837 Жыл бұрын

What they need is a competition that simulates coyote hunting. Take a 5”x10” target and send it across a field at different angles going 35 mph then shoot it from 150-300 yards away. Could even throw in a bunch of bonus pop up 2”x6” prairie dog targets all done in a 10mph wind of course.

@brandonedge1276 Жыл бұрын

Experience, the best teacher.

@denverkwiatkowski3378 Жыл бұрын

My two favorite channels all rolled into one. Great video Ron!!

@NHGUIDE88 Жыл бұрын

100%

@denisleblanc4506 Жыл бұрын

A long time ago I was tricked into shooting a long range competition by a co-worker. I had been told that I only had to spot the hits and maybe try to see the vapor trails. Once I got there I found out it was two man teams and both had to shoot. I had never fired the rifle and the only prone shooting I had done was indoors with 22LR. I was amazed how far I shot and how much we had to dial in for wing. After the competition I was talking to an uncle who was a long time hunter of everything. When I told him we started at 600 meters he asked what I was shooting and what the wind was. I described the breeze and told him it was a 308 with 168 grain bullets. He said "that would be close to two feet of drift." I was floored. We were dialing about 22.5 inches! This was long before range finders, kestrels and competition scopes we have now. But he hunted for decades. He was the best off-hand shooters I have ever seen. I'd been hunting a while but knew very little. This predates even ballistic software.

@edwardabrams4972 Жыл бұрын

The man knows his stuff! I have been following Eric for years and having done a little hunting and reloading as well as collecting rifles in 60+ years I am still learning new things from people like Eric which is refreshing too us old guns guys!

@davidsutherland4151 Жыл бұрын

One of the best interviews I have seen to date. I am a huge fan of both Eric and you Ron and seeing the both of you discussing not only target shooting but hunting and bringing both worlds together to help us see the relationship between the two. Is the most informative podcast ever. Please do more of these. It has inspired me to do much more work with wind reading.

@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Thanks David. And good luck with the wind!

@joshh5853 Жыл бұрын

I love the normal gun/cartridge stuff but this content was excellent. I can’t imagine what we could all learn spending a little time with Erik at the range

@DRHODES1979 Жыл бұрын

Great interview. I know it was alluded to, but I don't think it was hammered on enough. If you really want to be a better shooter/hunter go compete. Whether it's F-Class, PRS, NRL Hunter or your local field style rifle match, there is no better way to learn your capabilities, limitations and equipment than competition. Even if you just go to watch, you can learn so much.

@user-nh8et9kc1m 2 ай бұрын

I’ve been listening to your podcast/videos for a while now and I think this is your most informative, entertaining, and most productive podcast.

@jaybrueggeman8060 Жыл бұрын

So cool. Ron Spomer on Erik Cortina's Believe the Target podcast and now Erik or Ron's Outdoors podcast. Good stuff.

@davidbrock1565 Жыл бұрын

This episode was very good Ron! I have followed Erik for probably 3 yrs +/- on KZfaq. Both you and Erik are the real deal. Have a great day!

@davidfornkahl8374 Жыл бұрын

Love this guy. Ron, you , Eric, Randy Selby, and Who Tee Who, are my favorites. Really liked this interview. Now, get Randy Selby( The Real Gunsmith) on your show.

@USAACbrat Жыл бұрын

Hi Eric and Ron, sure am glad you 2 particularly; put up with the U-tube BS and bring top content producers to the viewers. This and E-mail are my only public outlet.

@matthewgrice6902 Жыл бұрын

Another great collaberation video. Thank you Ron and Erik.

@sethlarson5110 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy listening to a world class shooter that is also an ethical hunter discussing long range hunting

@aaronwilcox6417 Жыл бұрын

Ron, I've mentioned this before that you need to make a field video on this subject. We live in the same state and there good locations to practice high angle and cross canyon shots off a pack, bipod, off hand, with a sling. This would be the best content you could possibly make. I'll be looking forward to your efforts.

@rickquist3992 Жыл бұрын

Erik Cortina's interview of Ron Spomer is a must see. I think it's on his Believe The Target channel.

@bradcromwell9404 Жыл бұрын

"Once you have your rifle set up, go shoot in the wind!" Wise, quote Eric.

@laughingdog6010 Жыл бұрын

Your best pod cast so far, so much info to digest.

@aaronsteele7585 Жыл бұрын

I follow you both! Interesting to see you guys together. There is alot of knowledge on my screen right now!

@andyfleetwood2182 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ron for putting this up on you tube. I've followed Eric for a coupla years , i don't shoot competion, but hunt and shoot for fun and reload. Erics advice on reloading and setting up rifles and scopes helped this 70 years old a lot, as have your podcasts, when i thought i had it all figured out!

@johnoltrogge6333 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for tapping into the Erik Cortina resource. I once hunted with a man that absolutely wouldn't go to the range if the wind was over five miles per hour, but I did, especially when it was a full value cross wind. Soon, I found that estimating the drift at 200-300 was much easier and I've now been able to hit steel to 1000. What confidence that gives me, without being overconfident. Great video guys!

@bryanohalloran9001 Жыл бұрын

A great chat fellars.! Thanks Ron and Eric for this video

@fousea12 Жыл бұрын

Great show! Living in the west I find people can’t judge distance. 300 yards to a lot of people is called 450 to 500 yards. Myself 400 is a extreme long shot. I prefer 300 or less. On the plains not easy sometimes, but you can usually work closer

@gimpyRW Жыл бұрын

Great advice. I'm guilty of wimping out when it's windy or a little to moist out on the range. Now I know that I gotta quit being a wimp and just get out there and shoot.

@davidsalsedo Жыл бұрын

Two of my all time favorites in the riflemen's world. Great interview.

@7506999 7 ай бұрын

BTW.... Eric WON worlds.. Two of my favorite icons on this one. Enjoyed it.

@280AI Жыл бұрын

Ron I always enjoy your podcast , but this was one of your best. Really enjoyed Erik and all his advice of which I found many pieces of advice particularly helpful for an old Elk hunter like myself.

@bisleyblackhawk1288 Жыл бұрын

Eric’s demeanor and Southern respect in his using “sir” in his response is fantastic 👍👍👍… what a class act…thank you Ron for your channel!

@vernonhelms2316 Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad I ran into this video , I follow both you guys , and to have you both in one video is so awesome thanks for all you guys do , I appreciate you guys very much 😉❤️‼️

@glenj.taylor2938 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding stuff gentleman! I wished I would have know this was coming but at least I get to go back and watch watch I missed. Immense respect for both of you gentleman and thank you very much for sharing your lives and wisdom with all of us.

@victorbustamante1795 Жыл бұрын

This is awesome much appreciated

@wadeparker6091 Жыл бұрын

Very good pod cast. Loaded with different info. Keep up the good work.

@wrenchoperator6435 Жыл бұрын

Excellent podcast, Ron!

@luloadventure Жыл бұрын

Great Podcast! More Podcast like this one. I love this kind of conversation between two great shooters. Thanks Ron and Erik.

@kellyrick4365 Жыл бұрын

Great Pod Cast. Thank you both!!!!

@USAACbrat Жыл бұрын

New world Champion. let me congratulate you. Eric, when you were shooting silhouettes; did you ever shoot against Mr Lee ONeal. He won the nationals shooting a Rem. 260

@naylorinnovationsllc7483 Жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Thank you guys.

@gregchambers6100 Жыл бұрын

You two together are tip top notch. Thank you.

@daveknowles3055 Жыл бұрын

Excellent show, some very simple things to do to become a better shooter, what more can you ask.

@adamturnbull6157 Жыл бұрын

Great guest! Thank you

@robertdimeski4173 Жыл бұрын

That was great information Ron, really has opened my thoughts on what is required to improve cheers👍🇦🇺

@robertagusti3712 Жыл бұрын

Another exelent Pod Cast Ron Eric has a great personality and a great shooter.

@jw3946 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic Interview. Thank you!

@TJ257ACK Жыл бұрын

Awesome podcast! Much respect for both opinions on long range hunting. Gentleman, I thank you.

@USAACbrat Жыл бұрын

Paper plate sized vitals. Post targets where you want to shoot. My brother and I used quarters and dimes and Aspirin tablets at ranges from 25 to 125 yds. Shoot cold bore groups. You should be hunting up wind.

@homes8362 Жыл бұрын

Howa bout the 280 Remington. It's a 284 Winchester with different brass. I really believe that the 280 Remington is the best non magnum round ever devised, and the 30/06 is the second. I will say that my old Remington 700 BDL is the most accurate rifle that I have since I've perfected the load. One hole groups about the size of a nickel isn't nothing to sneeze at, but I always let the barrel cool off for ten minutes between shots.

@sergiolazzaro7970 Жыл бұрын

270 y 30-06 5 min 2 shot dias frios y 45 min dias caleintes

@holylick5522 Жыл бұрын

Two of my favorite shooters on the same video. You guys are the best, keep up the create videos.

@riaanjs Жыл бұрын

I had so many questions between hunting and long range shooting. Here you come and answer my question. This pot cast is one of the best. Thank's. Ron.

@TheSnakeman3 Жыл бұрын

Nice podcast. Thanks for the information guys.

@georgedeedsnotwords2162 Жыл бұрын

Great video guys ! I really enjoy when two different shooters get together and discuss the Commons and differences between the two . And how to work through problems to be better at what we do . 👍🍻🍻🍻

@10hunterLab Жыл бұрын

Eric and Ron, thanks for the info. Great stuff!

@paullesho9294 Жыл бұрын

That was great , 2 of my 3 favorite KZfaqr in one video. Thanks

@hotfarts6731 Жыл бұрын

Without watching the full video, I would say Erik's self imposed limit is 100 yard, 3 shot 1/4 minute group...all on the crease behind a deer's front quarter (before it tips over).

@gregwhite6334 10 ай бұрын

Great show Ron thanks.

@robertotto5811 Жыл бұрын

Great episode. Great interview. I've learned a lot from watching Eric's videos, it was interesting to hear him speak from the hunting perspective. It's always nice to hear an expert confirm things you've learned the hard way. As a bonus, I learned a great new excuse for missing. "I hit a bug"!

@albertmeintjes Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this chat Ron and Erik, thanks. See you in South Africa Erik

@johnt34aus Жыл бұрын

Two greats together

@cervus-venator Жыл бұрын

I've watched more than a few of Erik's videos. A wealth of knowledge there. Thanks Ron for having him as a guest.

@roddecker1900 Жыл бұрын

Best one you both have done

@craigrussell1101 Жыл бұрын

Great show!!!

@wesleywhitworth2424 Жыл бұрын

My two favorite hunting/shooting hosts on KZfaq. These two men can tell you everything you ever wanted to know.

@davidfornkahl8374 Жыл бұрын

I did his advice about shooting on a really windy day. WOW! This is when I found out about the " MAGIC" of the .264 Winchester Magnum and the 140 gr. REMINGTON CORELOKT BULLETS. Factory loads moving at around 3100 fps.

@m444ss Жыл бұрын

"A man's got to know his limitations." (1) I think the most important part of this really great interview is establishing a self-imposed max range based on capability on paper / static target and a reduction factor for hunting (seems like 40-60% of on-paper capability depending on skill level). (2) I think the very close second - and probably first if not proficient, consistent *and* shooting regularly - is to know and rely on MPBR and only going beyond MPBR (within the the constraints of item 1) if conditions are near optimal.

@longshooter457 Жыл бұрын

Two professional gentelmen having a little honest to honest chat together.I can't tell you guys how much I enjoyed this. Thank you both. A little news if no one heard..Mr Cortina won in South Africa. Congrads Erik.

@paulsimmons5726 Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear a world class shooter explaining the how and why of his self-imposed distance limit. I applaud his commitment to ethical hunting! Great interview!

@pastordarwin Жыл бұрын

Outstanding! I am a Thompson Center Encore (pistol) hunter. I have a 338 Win Mag for one barrel and shoot 225 grain SBT fairly consistently. I have found that the gun is far more capable than I will ever be. It will shoot 300 yards when I remove most of user input (sandbags, rest, etc.). However, for me off-hand 200 is the most I really want to try. With a pistol this big, even in the field, I do need a good rest - whatever that might be. The optics I use are Burris pistol scopes (excellent optics) so the equipment is up to snuff for longer ranges, but I am unwilling to trust the man behind the trigger: me. Over the years I see definitive improvement in my shooting ability when I practice a LOT, it suffers in those years when I am called to other tasks. Once again, excellent discussion and content, thank you Ron . . .

@jorgefigueroa7573 Жыл бұрын

Excellent this is one great show and Observation into examples of hunting and competition shooting. Something that I have tried to express for a long time. A controlled enviroment Vs unknown inconsistant one. It like my cousin would say to me during a second deployment in Iraq. Its never the same when they shoot back.

@IHWKR Жыл бұрын

A lot of common sense packed into this video. I appreciate the way Erik thinks about hardware vs. software. I think its safe to say the difference between an amateur and a pro (at any level) is the understanding and staying within the boundaries and limits of our abilities. Go out and practice in various positions and conditions to be prepared for any scenario at any time. Reading the wind, nature, and surroundings seems like it's 99% of hunting. Good luck in SA buddy!

@chrisgunsandguitars1403 Жыл бұрын

Very good episode!

@judodavid1 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the knowledge

@lyndeen Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@ryanbieberich6332 Жыл бұрын

AWESOME!

@jwelkie Жыл бұрын

This was great!

@nmelkhunter1 Жыл бұрын

Great discussion. I really wish more hunters would spend the time to use their software instead of just their hardware.

@tallyman15 Жыл бұрын

Great interview.

@USAACbrat Жыл бұрын

Get a topo. well before the hunt and carry it with you. Where i go the deer know who i am, where i live and what i drive. I still only only have to shoot 50 or less yds. Last one was the side porch steps with a glock 20.

@jamesborden7112 Жыл бұрын

Ice job Ron and Erik

@dinoquintana4319 Жыл бұрын

This podcast is getting better and better.the Information given out today should be a eye opener for alot of people.one of the biggest lessons today was get out and practice and be aware.its extremely unethical to buy a super long range rifle .take it out once or twice and think your qualified to shoot beyond250 yds.your not.ihave a imposed limit of 300 yds and I'm a much better hunter because of that.im going to go one step further. How much money do we spend on getting the lightest rifle possible. How easy,inexpensive ,and healthy is it to lose 10lbs.more weight than most rifles.god bless you Ron and Mr Cortina .thanks for the great info

@reloadingfun Жыл бұрын

I'm a fellow f-class shooter, and I have to disagree with Eric (K) 😉 somewhat when it comes to tuning a rifle to shoot good vs learning to shoot correctly. In my experience, it's easier to get one when you have the other. Having a good shooting rifle gives you better feedback on your shooting skills. If your rifle doesn't shoot very well, you don't know if that high or low shot was you or the gun. I think this applies to shooting f-clas or hunting.

@johnbennett7244 Жыл бұрын

Good video. Good info.

@USAACbrat Жыл бұрын

does anybody ever use a 25-06 for long range. my neighbor/gunsmith Shoots a water-cooled long barrel he takes to prairie dog shoots. love the way eric explains things.

@nikkir1975 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Good luck Eric in Africa

@richardlucas2155 Жыл бұрын

Great content Ron I’m a hunter not much into shooting long range thanks can’t eat paper haha

@danieltustison822 Жыл бұрын

Maybe you can come up with a max point blank distinct that adds the wind drift into it too. See if lighter faster bullet better or if heavier still wins out

@ronladuke7235 Жыл бұрын

Love this video, I have seen videos with guys taking big game at 800 or 1200 yards but they only show perfect kill shots not the shot where they shoot one through the guts and it runs off to be lost! When hunters watch these shots they may assume with modern hardware you can shoot game at 1000 yards? If I shot a big game animal at extreme range I would not be bragging about it, I would be ashamed!

@poisonPpaully Жыл бұрын

Great podcast I hope you can get Eric back on at some point

@homes8362 Жыл бұрын

Just got back from the range. My 308 Ruger American just poked out a clover leaf at 100.yds. with a 150 gr. SST Reload at 2780 fps. C.0.L. is 2.797, rem, large rifle primers, and 46 gr. IMR 4064. Wind was a quarter value out of my 10 o clock. All three rounds went inside of a nickel, and touching, for a single jagged little hole, it's been very rewarding to get the results that I have transversed over hill and Dale to get. Semper Fi.

@lessforloans Жыл бұрын

Those Ruger can shoot for the $$

@dinoquintana4319 Ай бұрын

I stopped trophy hunting 20 yrs ago.i left my model 70 supergrade in 7mm rem mag for a model 54 win in 3006 with a lyman target sight.here recently I bought a 120 year old savage model 99 carbine in 303savage .basically a twin of the 3030.it too has a tang sight and is capable of taking any elk out to 225 yds.cow elk are much better eating and are much easier to kill then a rutting bull even a small one.i will stay with my 54 for mulies as they may present a much longer shot .mountains of nm

@tonydevich7937 Жыл бұрын

Yes, that's fun actually

@teddahrable Жыл бұрын

There was a time as a y0ung man on my Regimental Rifle Team when I shot 1000 yds. At that time, I also shot game at a maximum of 600yds. I'm now 60. I still shoot plenty to be ready for hunting, but I have dropped my maximum range to 400 yds. Most of my ranges are simply MPBR because it's easier. However, I have trajectory tables taped to the rifle stock with the number of clicks I need to come up to 400 yd zero. I like to find my hunting spots early, and I pick an appropriate rifle for it. That might be a .30-06, a .303Br, or even a .30-30. I then shoot 100 rds with that rifle at various positions out to the max range I'll be using in my spot.

@MrJtin69 Жыл бұрын

You should bring him back and ask about rifle break in and rifle cleaning if it effects accuracy

@charlesmullins3238 Жыл бұрын

Charles Greer shot a 2.8125” 10rd group at 1000yrds with .300wsm n Borden action,krieger barrel,McMillan stock,Berger bullets…2/13/21 which is/was the record

@thestrawberrypatch5644 Жыл бұрын

Here is my stance on gear. I've got hunting rifles that all shoot sub MOA. If they don't I send them down the road. Now here is why...if I know I can shoot 3 under 1 inch at the range every time then I can trust my gear 100%. Then if I miss I know it's me. If I have a rifle with a flexible lightweight stock that can get into the barrel if I put a heavy cheek on it with support out by the sling stud and cause it to shoot 1 MOA high then now I don't know if I should shoot a little low or what?

@pseudopetrus 11 ай бұрын

I like off hand shooting. I have tried to practice on a really windy day. Nope, it was beyond my ability to adapt.

@roddecker1900 Жыл бұрын

A prankster in North test my sense of humor: last bunch of seasons my shots have all been under 55yds with my cds' s .knocking on head ( wood) right now🐎

@MyLonewolf25 Жыл бұрын

Since y’all kinda talked about long range shooting and all What’s yours and or Erik’s view on those tacom hq structured barrels?

@USAACbrat Жыл бұрын

Ron when sighting in do you try to group cold bore shots?

@1bobharvey Жыл бұрын

As far as real-world practice goes, a major hurdle a lot of my hunting partners seem to have in the field has to do with shots up or down a hill. I grew up hunting mountains so incline decline is one of my first considerations for drop and a lot of guys just don't seem to even think about it in today's era of everyone has a range finder. It's probably not the most accurate way to do it, but on the fly if you try and just picture the distance to the target on a flat 2d map and use the drop for that distance it works out about perfect every time. One of my favorite tricks to pull on someone during archery practice is to put a buddy on a steep hill 30 yard from the target with thier range finder but it's steep enough that they would only be half that distance if viewed from the top down on a map. And almost every time you watch an arrow zip right over the target even tho the range finder says 30 and they used the 30 pin lol. To practice mountain hunting shots you can't just practice on a flat range cause 600 yard down a glarly steep canyon in Idaho at a deer is not the same drop as 600 yards across the flat field behind your house in Nebraska.

@rosshill2565 6 ай бұрын

New range finders have angle compensation built into them. Now, you have to select it and use it, or you will have steep angle issues. I live out west in the state with the Most Mountain Ranges, Nevada, so I spend a lot of time out in them. My range finder is always set to angle compensation mode. It works great.

@1bobharvey 6 ай бұрын

@rosshill2565 exactly, you have to turn it on... or just be able to eyeball and consider what you are doing... depending on what your shooting (bow, crossbow, .22, 300 win mag) and the range it may or may not make much of a difference. And there is no way nevada has "the most mountains" unless your naming every 3 hill near each other a range.