Whoa, rad! I'm glad this helped. It's such a fun bike.

Glad it helped! I think it's an awesome bike that opens up a lot of options.

Thanks Al! It was a fun one to make- it’s just a rad bike all around.

Sounds like a rad setup! You are probably taking those dirt turns faster than I am :)

Thanks Jorge! Anything specific you’d like to see? Fairly blank canvas over here.

@@outdoorbros_ I guess.. the Sprinter van, what you do for a living, how it is where you live... and how that relates or it is combined with your cycling in this case, just as an idea off the top of my head.

Looks amazing. I’ve always wanted to visit Iceland… might need to make that happen :)

Thanks Lorenzo! I shared some thoughts on it in this video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNaae8xiupzHnXk.html

Thanks, G!

What’s up, Austin? Glad you’re enjoying it- it’s a blast!

You don’t have to adjust the chain when swapping set ups?

Sounds like whatever you get, it'll be a total, multi-discipline workhorse. I love it!

Thanks! I'm actually quite pleased with the Hammerhead. I didn't use it at LOTOJA but wish I had- the climb data is really cool.

Thanks, Vincent! Anything in particular you'd like to see?

@@outdoorbros_ let me think, I know you do more products reviews… but some practical videos could be cool. 1- with all you bikes, how do you manage your pieces inventory? I’m a weekend warrior like you, and it’s quite challenging to organise everything for my 3 bikes. 2- tips and tricks to travel with your bike. I’m currently building a S-work aethos and wondering about the fragility of the frame to impacts travelling. I’ve got a bike box but is there anything you found out practical to key your bike safe while travelling. 3- I’ve been back and forth running Tubeless and tubes on my zipp 303FC and my Reserve 35 wheels. I really honestly wonder what offers the best puncture resistance. In theory I know it’s tubeless but I’ve been quite unlucky with it. What are your thoughts? Anyway, good content! Thank you

Heck ya! There so fun. Shoot me a message on instagram if you have any specific questions. Get the VS30 before Merc goes to the 4matic system on the next gen Sprinter.

Nice! You can’t go wrong with a crux.

You know what's up!

What’s up, Ivan? Thanks for the kind words. There’s no denying that the flat strip plays into off road grip when climbing, especially while seated. In my experience, that’s probably one of the few drawbacks of the tire and I wouldn’t trade increased rolling resistance for a file tread center. Just my two cents.

@@outdoorbros_ that's a very fair point! Like you, I have to ride on road to get to the trails so it's always a compromise for me. So far, I've leaned towards more knobby tires so I always have enough grip off road but it's definitely slow on road. Cheers

@@ivanyhtang Tread pattern has the least effect on rolling speed (after compound and casing). The Tufo Thunderos have tread down the middle and roll faster (according to BRR) than the Pathfinder (even the S-Works model). Downside is that puncture resistance is less on the centre tread (so if you ride lots of urban areas near bars etc with glass/construction then the Pathfinder may be a better choice). The Tufo's are also half the price of the S-Works Pathfinder and weigh the same.

I really like them- probably my favorite gravel tire for my style of riding.

I'm square in the middle of 56 so I'm a 56 across the board.

That’s a tough one. The “SL7 feel” is hard to replicate. You’ll notice that the crux isn’t as stiff and the handling isn’t as precise- it it were, it would be a mess on gravel. I’d say you’ll miss you SL7 when the pace REALLY picks up or you have you hammer to bridge or sprint- crux just can’t respond like the SL7.

I rode my SuperX against my buddies Crux S-Works, both very light, both same size and fitted with Ear. They ride quit different. The crux is longer in the front center but its steering is more twitchy, as the SuperX has a slacker head angle and shorter top tube. He said to him the SuperX felt even more like a road bike. It felt to me that the Crux was a bit stiffer than mine. i now have a second set of wheels with 28mm road tires. That makes it truly two bikes in one.

@@marcowalther7867 Another SuperX here as my one bike, with 3 wheelsets and 50/34 - 11-32/36. Loving it alround.

Yikes! That’s a bit cold for my blood. If I can get my hands on the SuperSix, I’d love to do a comparison- it seems to check all of the boxes. Congrats on the SuperX!

@@outdoorbros_ I think you'll love it. It was never in the spotlight for the wide range of application it can be used for. Shitty marketing I guess. I suspect it will be phased out and replaced by the Supersix Evo CX/Se soon. But due to being a sleeper, it can be had for dead cheap on the used market at times. In all cases, I greatly appreciate your unbiased content!

Thanks Felipe! 🤙🏻

I think it would be a fun addition. Personally, every time I'm on something where I feel the need for a dropper, I just want to be on my mtb.

@@outdoorbros_ Fair comment! Thanks for replying.

I have redshift on my Crux since unbound gravel and forgot it’s there. I think it’s an awesome combo.

What’s up, C A? Sounds like a rad setup. I’ve seen the Ekar group- it looks awesome. I tend to cycle through bikes and groupsets fairly often, so I stick to sram and Shimano for resale purposes.

Thanks for the reminder- I've been meaning to weight it. 7.95kg or 17.5 pounds with bottle cages, pedals, etc.

I like this idea! I'll add it to the list.

​@@outdoorbros_ I've built a crux on road mode: all SRAM RED AXS XPLR (44 + 10/44), thomson carbon seatpost and bars, flite boost superflow saddle, dt240 hubs, 50mm carbon rims, gp5000 28c tubeless... it's not the s-works frame and it's a size 58 but without pedals or accessories it is 7.1kg. You can easily make it lighter. Very solid bike... I only have to swap tires and it's ready for gravel. I've done 4500km so far with it (mostly on the road) and it is amazing. Geometry is like a road endurance bike, super comfortable but still "roadie". They have asked me 3 times what model of Aethos is that colour... LOL Lateral stiffness is pretty good (way better than the s-works, BTW. I'm big, it's important). I'm quite competitive but I'm not sure about road racing with it though... you might want something more specific for that. About the gearing, if you're more road oriented, I'd go with a 46t chainring (which is the max for this frame with the 68mm BB). I run out of high gears when I go with the A group guys from the club. If you're much stronger than me, you can go with a wide crankset and a 48t chainring, that would be equivalent to a high 53chainring with a 11 sprocket and a low 34 chainring with 32 sprocket. you could go bigger than that for crit racing, but crit racing on this would be pushing it a little bit too far... :D If you don't have a decent cadence range, the 11 to 13 sprockets gap is around 15RPM difference for the same speed, not really the big deal shimano talibans make of it, but... whatever... in my opinion, if you can't cope with this, you basically suck at cycling :P I think a 46t chainring would be perfect for strong riders, I mean for an all road bicycle or a do-it-all gravel/road bike (if you're not bikepacking with a lot of stuff or doing MTB trails) and a 44t for the rest of us.

Yo! Compared to the SS, they have a bit more bite. When I was at Grodeo, I debated between these two tires- really glad I went with the Pathfinder Pros. One of the only times I wish I had more traction is when I’m climbing on really light gravel- the thin strip breaks almost immediately (as you’d expect).

Hey Pascal- I’m riding 700c wheels. I did see a Crux today with 650b wheels and 55mm tires- pretty impressive setup.

@@outdoorbros_ Thank you for you quick response. I am considering a Open Up for my next bike. I like you ride road and gravel on a fast pace and was wondering if a 40mm tires set was a good fit to cover both ? With 700 wheels size on the Open I feel there is very little room left from the frame to the tires for any debris to go trough without scratching or damaging the frame it’s tight!

Sounds like such a good setup. How do you like the LS?

@@outdoorbros_ Happy so far. Although heavier than my R5, I don't find I'm really losing a lot with the swap. It feels like a road bike when I ride it on the road. And, it's lighter than my Fara gravel bike but stable enough to give it some stick off-road. It feels like a racy gravel bike, so again not feeling the loss. It's not suited for bikepacking though. So with N-1, I feel happy with the simplification, and I don't mind splurging on a component or 2 knowing it's all going to the "one" bike I use. Since I own one, I notice that it's pretty much been ignored by reviewers, especially since the Ostro gravel bike is getting all the attention because it is "aero". Whatever!

@@KevinMatassa good intel! I have also noticed that the LS hasn’t gotten a ton of love. Sounds like a great bike.

I rarely ride mud, so that’s a tough one for me to offer an opinion. That being said, there’s plenty of clearance for mud, even with larger tires.

Just need a wide FD- I think I misspoke in a previous video.

No issues, whatsoever.

I haven’t ridden the Diverge STR, but it seems like it’s too close to a mtb for me. I vote Crux.

It has worked just fine for me, although it seems to be a bit deep. If I were shopping for a gravel wheelset, I’d probably go with 3.4’s for a nicer balance between road and gravel. That being said, no issues with the wider tires on road nor gravel.

I have since sold these wheels after multiple repairs, but I think pawls would become dislodged and the hub acted like a fixed gear bike.

What's up, Bastian? Hahaha- I have some flexibility to sneak out on lunch rides and dawn patrol on the weekends has been a life saver. The trick is finding friends who are willing to leave the house before 5am :) I'll put together a video on this because I think my perspective is a bit unique... 1) I ride 5-6 days/week, sometimes in the morning and at lunch during the summer (200 mile race in September= high mileage). Saturdays in the Summer are always 80+ miles, usually home before 10am. Having a trainer makes a lot of this possible. I can jump on the trainer at 5:30am and be done before 7am. 2) In the summer, quite a bit. I stick to safe roads, stay in groups and use a bright headlight and tail light. 3) A lot of riding is the same routes, inevitably and exploring usually happens during the winter. We have routes we like and tend to stick to them. 4) Super supportive family, but I'm also hyper sensitive to family and work demands- I try to get ahead of them before anyone says something. If my wife asks me to be home by 10am, I try to be home by 9:30am. If I feel like I've been away too much, I make the call before anyone says anything. So far, so good *fingers crossed* Err on the side of what really matters. 5) Sunday is always a rest day for me. 6) Inevitably, winter brings "cold" and dark mornings, so I see more time on the trainer. I used to have a love/hate relationship with the trainer, but now enjoy it quite a bit. During recovery intervals or recover days, I spend a lot of time answering emails, catching up on work and it becomes a very efficient hour. I'll probably do more lunch time rides during the winter this year, just for my sanity. 7) I feel like I'm pretty normal here, not consciously cutting out a lot of that stuff (although I admit that I should). I guess I don't watch much TV, that could be one area where I'm different with disposable time. Overall, I think just finding what works best for you, your family and work schedule. Early mornings are huge. 5am-7am is a nearly untouchable time slot for me- if I can get out of bed and workout, it doesn't mess with anyone else's schedule and I start the day with a win and 30-40+ miles. I'm also just a more productive and happy person when I exercise, so I tend to push myself a bit more with the end in mind. Anyways, this is the longest comment response- hope it helps! Happy to answer any other questions.

Live in a city with lots of group rides and give every nice day to the bike. Don't be about the miles though, you can get a lot of garbage miles in and still be slow.

@@outdoorbros_ Wow, what a reply! 👍 You earned yourself a dedicated subscriber with that! Thanks for sharing all these insights already in the comments, which is not what I was expecting at all. Indeed, some big differences to me, as I do all my rides outside. If this topic ever makes it into a video, I am looking forward to it. 😉

@@aaron___6014 Thanks for your reply! I wonder what my girlfriend or family would say if I gave *every* nice day to the bike, though. 🙈 Seriously, trying to do that already. Whenever the sun is out, I try to be out, too, though alone and not in groups most of the time. I like the time I have just to myself.

​@@bbde1980 Riding the bike is great, but make sure it's not going to mess up your long-term goals if you plan to get married and have a family. One of my best friends became obsessed with running and cycling in his 30's and never looked ahead, so 38 years later he's still riding over 8k per year but he has no spouse or kids. Only his bicycle club.

I think it's a great option. If flexibility is a concern, you might consider larger tires and a lower tire pressure or a less aggressive bike.

Did the same thing with my Crux Comp, in my opinion the first thing you should change is the wheels. The stock wheels are so heavy and really hold the bike back, put on some lighter weight carbon wheels and see that bike come alive. My final Crux Comp build ended up with Shimano Ultegra Di2, Farsports Carbon Wheels, Alpinist Cockpit and Terra Speed Tires. Final weight in a 52 was 15.8 lbs with pedals.

What's up, Tyler? I started to respond to this last week and thought I'd take a minute. 1) I think wheels and tires and probably the best bang for you buck. Not only that, but it's a difference that you'll immediately feel (I wish all upgrades were like that). 2) If you scroll up/down to Bastian's comment on this video, I went into quite a bit of detail. I think the key is waking up early, saying "no" to a lot of seemingly good things and having a family who is supportive of endeavors. Block out time for lunch rides as if it's a normal meeting- that was a big one for me this Summer. Having a smart trainer has also produced some efficient, early morning hours where I can knock out emails and easy communications during rest intervals. 3) Allied as a brand has always intrigued me. I'm not totally sold on the idea of an aero bike on gravel, but I'd like to give the BMC Kaius a shot. Ben Delaney did an awesome video on that bike- seems interesting.

Nice! Two wheelsets opens a world options.

This is exactly what I do. I have to wheelsets for my crux, one with 28mm road tires and one with 42mm pathfinders. The bike is only 16lbs in the road setup and 17 with gravel tires. My favorite bike I’ve ever owned. Not to mention, the bike is extremely easy to work on, knowing the hoses aren’t integrated into the bar/stem and it has a threaded BB.

I’ve also owned the Pro version. They’ve both been good for me. I know Ben Delaney recommended the Pro version- I trust his recommendation

I’ve used both the Pro and SW version, both 42mm.

What's up, Jose? Diverge is a still a great bike, it's fun! I haven't ridden a Roubaix but do think it has a lot of potential, especially with that tire clearance. Maybe you can pick up a used Crux now? Used market seems to open up a bit in the winter.

@@outdoorbros_ Yes thank you outdoorbros for the advice !!!! I’ll definitely will look into it actually found a 2022 crux expert for 5500 OBO in my area I spoke to the gentleman I’ll be taking a look at it next week when I come back from vacation in the meantime I’m trying to get sell my diverge I’ll see how that goes also just finished up ensure great book so inspirational thanks again 🙏

@@JoseRios-mw2lo the crux will be slightly harsher due to the design (no future shock and slightly stiffer rear end), but the weight savings are drastic. I love my crux and wouldn’t think twice about buying it again!

@@austinjacob99 Thanks for the advice Austin yes I think crux is my next bike for sure !!!

Thanks Lazaros! It's been a hunt to find lower prices on components to limit the experiment- hopefully my tinkering saves someone a few steps and poor purchases. The Aethos was a champ, but the SL7 just works for me. I said from the beginning that the Aethos' biggest problem was that the Tarmac was still in my garage- that proved to be true :) Thanks for the video suggestions!

Yup, Ron and Pro Bike Design. Awesome guy.

I have the Karoo 2 and previous gen Wahoo Elemnt Bolt- both are great.

If you’re looking for best value, the Aspero is hard to beat. I think the Crux expert is totally sufficient for most of our needs. Anything above that and you’re looking at marginal gains, imo.

@@outdoorbros_ appreciate the honest reply and great vids btw! Keep up the good work...being unbiased or swayed by an outward source is rare, so kudos to you!!

Negative.

Shoot me a link! Thanks.

I haven’t used one for a while, just throw everything into my jersey pockets.

Heck ya!

The Aethos came first and it had some very particular objectives: as light as possible, good ride comfort, not a race bike. That worked so well that the same frame concept was applied to the Crux remake. Both were conceived in Peter Denk's design office in Freiburg, Germany. The naked Crux S-Works frame is a thing of beauty. Never saw such a cleanly constructed carbon frame. The inside I saw was super smooth.

Mohamad, always challenging these concepts- I like it! Makes sense. More bikes, more $$$, I guess.

@@outdoorbros_ wilier did that. One bike frame with two sets of tires and groupset a and the bike was pure dope. Pinarello went for a three type frames and distinguished those with price. I also believe that the sl7, aethos and crux are very slick and elegant bikes. I am just against taking the client for granted :))) like usual love your presentations.

@@marcowalther7867 hello. The crux and aethos are beautiful frames. I have the aethos and would think twice before buying the crux if I had use for it.

@@mohamadjamil3164 Hi there, my take is: those bikes are made for the few who have the cash to spend. Yes, some freaks are also willing to go in with all they have for such a dream bike but they are hardly the target audience. And as @outdoorbos pointes out, there is more $$$ to be made. Hence, the industry is not really interested in a one-bike solution.

Around 8700 this year.

A road bike won with big tires and a roubaix is a full on gravel bike

@@lalithjalakam3188 yes I know, the specialized pros (Sagan etc) rode a Roubaix .. that’s all i was pointing out.

@@SuperTaylor68 Not the bike you'd choose for hitting rougher trails though. I think one needs to consider the sole objective of pro riders at such an event : winning. They wouldn't necessary take into consideration how beat up they are after a race as long as they go fast enough. The route of the worlds was having a lot of paved roads. Running 40mm rubber makes you slow on tarmac.

If you lean super heavy road and very light gravel, I think it’s a viable option. I also think the gravel worlds were best described by Ben Delaney as, “The Bike Path World Championships,” in which case, the Roubaix was probably perfect.

A mechanic told me the Grevil is stiff AF and will properly beat you up on any extended ride. But it looks hot.

If I can get my hands on one, I’d love to.

Definitely looks 🔥🔥🔥

I’m lucky enough to have one, it is insanely good.. v responsive and ride is perfectly fine on 40mm tyres set up tubeless.

@@SuperTaylor68 I’m on point for buying one with Grx di2 in champagne color. Is the bike to stiff do you think. I used to have very stiff bikes. Sworks venge disc and a basso palta 2.

Crux is much more capable on gravel, imo.

Interesting take. Glad you found the bike you like!

Is there a specific model of the Ridely bike that you are mentioning?... I'm interested in looking up some reviews to compare. Thank you m

@@R.Es1 I have the Fenix SLX and Helium SLX but you don’t need the SLX models if you are trying to get the best value. Ridley’s are thoroughbreds! The difference between a Ferrari or Porsche and a Toyota

Probably is… isn’t that also a Peter Denck design? One of those is…

@@outdoorbros_ I don't know but I love the classic look. I hear guys are trying to buy that classic geo because nearly all bike manufactures are doing the drop-seat stay look. I'll look up Peter Denck since I love deep-dives like that! Thanks for the reply!

This is exactly why I was interested in the aethos and 2022+ crux in the first place, reminded me of my 2015-2016 supersix evos!